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wargallow
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Posted - 2006.08.30 13:27:00 -
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hi all.
i was just wondering how to EW drones work?
i know how jamming works from say my scorpion.
do the drones need to get into range of the target while still staying in range of me so i can control them and then i give the "engage target" command?
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.30 13:47:00 -
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They work exactly the same as combat drones. Lock a target, tell them to 'attack' (Or engage, or whatever). They fly towards it, and do their thing.
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wargallow
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Posted - 2006.08.30 13:53:00 -
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with regards to their jamming probability... is it based on their jamming strength alone or tied in with that of their controlling ship?
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Murehk
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Posted - 2006.08.30 14:10:00 -
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As a sidequestion, can you use them to jam other drones and if so do they automatically jam?
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Bhoki Tentor
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Posted - 2006.08.30 14:11:00 -
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 Originally by: wargallow
with regards to their jamming probability... is it based on their jamming strength alone or tied in with that of their controlling ship?
just their own jamming strength, should be visible in their info(don't mistake it for sensor strength however).
Originally by: Murehk
As a sidequestion, can you use them to jam other drones and if so do they automatically jam?
Last I heard and checked, drones can't be jammed so it would be silly to try.
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wargallow
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Posted - 2006.08.30 14:22:00 -
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i remember reading a post a while back and the guy was calculating jamming strenght and he added that of the jammers on his ship with those of the drones to come up with his total jammer strenght.
is that correct?
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.30 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: wargallow
i remember reading a post a while back and the guy was calculating jamming strenght and he added that of the jammers on his ship with those of the drones to come up with his total jammer strenght.
is that correct?
No.
Jamming chance is per jamming thing. E.g. the drone.
The probability is jamming strength/sensor strength.
Thus, an EC-900 with a jamming strength of 2 has a 2/10 chance of jamming a tristan each jamming cycle.
Compound probability is a little more complicated, but basically take the probability of _not_ jamming with each jammer, multiply that up, and subtract from 1.
e.g. 5x str 2 jammers, vs str 10 ship:
Probability of jam = 2/10
Probability of not jamming = 8/10 or 80%
(0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 )
0.8 ^ 5 = 0.32
So a 0.32 chance of failing to jam entirely. Or a 68% chance that you will jam successfully.
Obviously, if you have modules of varying strengths, vs. variable strength targets you need to take those into account.
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Zaldung Kotimoto
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Posted - 2006.08.30 19:16:00 -
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so the reason for using an ewar drone rather than just adding a ewar module is the drones can work from farther away (as long as you are close enough the control them the drone can fly out and jamm without you getting close) or wanting to put other things on your ship. Say if you are in a frig with limited medium slots.
Is this correct?
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LordHong
Freedom-Technologies
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.30 19:21:00 -
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Drones have a faster cycle time than ship fitted modules AFAIK so that's another benefit. Also it allows alot of dominix pilots to use their imense drone skills to become flying invincible ships (10 * ec-900 = unlockable prob lol)
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Boris2k
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.08.30 19:25:00 -
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imo only a few of the ewar drones are useable, these being limited to TP-900's(20% TP fuk yea!!!!) the SW-900 ( even with 1 more than enuff to catch up or out run ) or the repper ones which arent ewar.
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Still Hart
Aurora Empire
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2006.08.30 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Zaldung Kotimoto
so the reason for using an ewar drone rather than just adding a ewar module is the drones can work from farther away (as long as you are close enough the control them the drone can fly out and jamm without you getting close) or wanting to put other things on your ship. Say if you are in a frig with limited medium slots.
Is this correct?
They're great for ECM defense. You have the drones out and as soon as that BB locks and jams you, the drones "attack" it. As soon as they jam him once you're free to pummel him. :-D
They're also great to have along with one multispec...that gives you 6 chances to jam per cycle (assuming you're fielding 5 drones). I've heard your ECM points are combined with the ECM drones and the multi's but since it's impossible to prove one way or the other it's not worth arguing about. Suffice it to say, testing 4x Med ECM drones and one Multi on my rupture against a Thorax had him almost perma-jammed.
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Bhoki Tentor
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Posted - 2006.08.30 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: LordHong
Drones have a faster cycle time than ship fitted modules AFAIK so that's another benefit. Also it allows alot of dominix pilots to use their imense drone skills to become flying invincible ships (10 * ec-900 = unlockable prob lol)
err... how long ago since you used a Dominix? 
Dominix has a drone damage and drone hp bonus now instead of extra drones controlled now since quite a long time already(was it RMR when they introduced the new drone things to improve on lag?)
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Littleluk
The Ancient Order
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.30 23:38:00 -
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Judging by how effective the little buggers are... I strongly suspect that Ew drones get the bonus to Jammer strenght from skills and ship bonuses. IE drone interfacing 5 doubles their jammer strength and the dedicated drone boats per level bonus seem to work as well. Normal drones do not display their increased damage under the show info window so it may well be a hidden bonus. In strictly informal testing... EW drones seem to jam far to often to be having a jammer strength of 1-2. 4-5 seems to be a more realistic jammer strength based on their frequency of jamming a battleship with an ECCM mod fitted.
If the numbers folks out there want to tesat that out I would be very interested in the results.
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