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Surly Bob The Church of Violentology	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:25:00 - [1] Edited by: Surly Bob on 30/08/2006 16:28:39 Quote: We do a lot of testing before we deploy patches and the Dragon code branch, our internal nickname for the code branch, has gone through these phases of testing: * 2 Months of Alpha testing in China * 1 Month of closed Beta testing in China * 1 Month of open Beta testing in China. Max concurrent users was about 38.000 players. * Deployed for Release in China Debate all you want, threaten to quit all you want. It doesn't matter. All of this stuff is already live on Serenity, which is now the "main" Eve server. Like Lineage and UO, we westerners will be permitted to enjoy changes designed for the Asian markets, debated by the Asian players, and pre-implemented on the Asian server. Learn Chinese and go post on that forum, and someone might pay attention. Pretty much every change since Serenity came online has been to serve that market. Face it, friends, China is the hot new Achura in the bar, and we're just the dried up old Civire that nobody even bothers talking to, anymore. --- Add a MANUAL 0km warp option. Leave autopilot at 15km ranges. Done. All fixed.
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:28:00 - [2] Why are you so surprised? They want to make changes to handle many more players than TQ currently has, which Serenity will undoubtedly have... They said from the outset they are not going down 2 separate roads... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
MrTripps Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:29:00 - [3] Quote: will be permitted to enjoy changes designed for the Asian markets, debated by the Asian players, and pre-implemented on the Asian server So? On Chinese new year we will get a mod that shoots Hello Kittys. It will rock. Chill out and have an egg roll. Sigs? We don't need no steenking sigs...
Katabrok First Caldari Kindergarden Corp	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:29:00 - [4] Edited by: Katabrok First on 30/08/2006 16:29:50 I call this Battleship!!! Oppsss... bullsheet. I only buy what you said when the next patches start to appear there before here. It was a launch, and they had to make accomodations for the market there. OK Ps.: May I have your stuff? Since they wont move it from here to china, and obviously you will start a new char there.... Katabrok, the space barbarian. I want the The Correct DreadÖ!!!!
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:31:00 - [5] Whaaa!!1 \o/ baby scream & whine [they solved the wcs-prob]
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:32:00 - [6] Nice view of the world you have there... so if europe isnt the largest community anymore, we are worthless? --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Surly Bob The Church of Violentology	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Katabrok First Oppsss... bullsheet. I only buy what you said when the next patches start to appear there before here. The patch we are currently debating has been on Serenity for like a month, brainiac. Oh, and I never said I was quitting. My post was aimed at those who said that they were. Reading comprehension ftw!! --- Add a MANUAL 0km warp option. Leave autopilot at 15km ranges. Done. All fixed.
BustyBounty Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:33:00 - [8] Edited by: BustyBounty on 30/08/2006 16:33:55 china doesnt have a proper test server now that the game has gone live over there? if they dont have a test server they cant test new stuff makes sense for them to use the chinese people as guinea pigs anyway if there were more of them on there beta test than there were more of us using our test server ------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance I belong to.

Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:35:00 - [9] Well according to this Serenity Server Status Graph, Serenity hasn't gone above 14k in the past one month and the numbers itself are steadily declining. In comparison we cross 15k almost everyday. On weekends we almost hit 30k. However the Dragon patch brought in a lot of Unicode stuff which was needed on the Serenity Server first to handle the UI, descriptions, chat being in Chinese. Email Us \| Forum Rules \| Website

Too Kind	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:35:00 - [10] Edited by: Too Kind on 30/08/2006 16:36:23 Originally by: Bhaal Why are you so surprised? They want to make changes to handle many more players than TQ currently has, which Serenity will undoubtedly have... They said from the outset they are not going down 2 separate roads... They also said that the chinese cluster will have no negative impact on us, well at least they tried to make us believe that. Wait and see. Too bad I that I can't look into the future. Could safe some money, if the future is crap. Hehe. edit: But currently I still believe in CCP, not that you understand me wrong. -------------------------- Post with your main !!!111
Loyal Servant Caldari Cornhole Inc. The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Eldo Davip Well according to this Serenity Server Status Graph, Serenity hasn't gone above 14k in the past one month and the numbers itself are steadily declining. In comparison we cross 15k almost everyday. On weekends we almost hit 30k. However the Dragon patch brought in a lot of Unicode stuff which was needed on the Serenity Server first to handle the UI, descriptions, chat being in Chinese. Well, then it is obvious the chinese didnt like it either! WHY DO IT THEN?!?!?! Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time. Member, The Sudden Death Squad [TSDS]

Eris Discordia	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Surly Bob Learn Chinese and go post on that forum, and someone might pay attention. Pretty much every change since Serenity came online has been to serve that market. Face it, friends, China is the hot new Achura in the bar, and we're just the dried up old Civire that nobody even bothers talking to, anymore. -Actually most of the designs used on TQ and Serenity are designed here in Iceland. -Most of the devs don¦t speak Chinese and read these forums for feedback on any upcoming changes. -Most of the devs have their player characters on TQ and not on Serenity. If it helps think of Serenity and TQ as twins, there are only subtle differences between them but when their parents redecorate their room they will benefit both from it in one way or another. They can use their own personal toys to give their corner more personal flair so to speak. need to update my signature,imagine a pink dread in here with flowers It¦s either a CCP employee, a foreigner or a combination of both.

Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Surly Bob Edited by: Surly Bob on 30/08/2006 16:28:39 Quote: We do a lot of testing before we deploy patches and the Dragon code branch, our internal nickname for the code branch, has gone through these phases of testing: * 2 Months of Alpha testing in China * 1 Month of closed Beta testing in China * 1 Month of open Beta testing in China. Max concurrent users was about 38.000 players. * Deployed for Release in China Debate all you want, threaten to quit all you want. It doesn't matter. All of this stuff is already live on Serenity, which is now the "main" Eve server. Like Lineage and UO, we westerners will be permitted to enjoy changes designed for the Asian markets, debated by the Asian players, and pre-implemented on the Asian server. Learn Chinese and go post on that forum, and someone might pay attention. Pretty much every change since Serenity came online has been to serve that market. Face it, friends, China is the hot new Achura in the bar, and we're just the dried up old Civire that nobody even bothers talking to, anymore. Idiocity has a name.. SUrly Bob... no point in debating you have prooven it with this post... The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! Oh and apparently the mods tell me there is bad language on his site so beware kids :)
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:44:00 - [14] Originally by: Eris Discordia Originally by: Surly Bob Learn Chinese and go post on that forum, and someone might pay attention. Pretty much every change since Serenity came online has been to serve that market. Face it, friends, China is the hot new Achura in the bar, and we're just the dried up old Civire that nobody even bothers talking to, anymore. -Actually most of the designs used on TQ and Serenity are designed here in Iceland. -Most of the devs don¦t speak Chinese and read these forums for feedback on any upcoming changes. -Most of the devs have their player characters on TQ and not on Serenity. If it helps think of Serenity and TQ as twins, there are only subtle differences between them but when their parents redecorate their room they will benefit both from it in one way or another. They can use their own personal toys to give their corner more personal flair so to speak. Yes, twins, like the movie... TQ is Danny DeVitto, except with red hair, not bald... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Surly Bob The Church of Violentology	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Eris Discordia If it helps think of Serenity and TQ as twins, there are only subtle differences between them but when their parents redecorate their room they will benefit both from it in one way or another. They can use their own personal toys to give their corner more personal flair so to speak. Thanks for the reply, but from where I'm sitting, it seems more like we are the the less favored sibling who gets Big Sister Serenity's hand-me-downs. I mean, all of this stuff has already been coded and placed into service on the Chinese server. It's a bit silly for us western players to think that you guys are going to fork the code just because we don't like something that the folks on the main server have been living with for months. Could you guys please start posting Serenity's patchnotes in English, so we know what is coming in time to actually get some idea of what designs will be hitting our server a few months later? --- Add a MANUAL 0km warp option. Leave autopilot at 15km ranges. Done. All fixed.
Yumi Katanawe	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:46:00 - [16] while on this topic, exactly what are the differences the chinese slavemongers demanded to be introduced in order to keep their servants cuddly and free from foreign demons?
Za Po Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:50:00 - [17] Originally by: Yumi Katanawe while on this topic, exactly what are the differences the chinese slavemongers demanded to be introduced in order to keep their servants cuddly and free from foreign demons? They might not require any change at all in this regard. Preventing their people from communicating with the rest of the world (by sharding their games) is enough. Though I think they also restrict how much they can play.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:51:00 - [18] Serenity, now that it is live, has at most 10,000 people online at peak time, and each account is paying a third of the amount that TQ accounts are paying. Trust me, CCP isn't giving it priority. Not only has it got less people and less revenue, but almost everything with regards to the china cluster is handled by a seperate company anyway. CCP aren't stupid. --------
Celestal	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:52:00 - [19] So how exactly is serenity getting a patch earlier then TQ considered to be of negative benefit to us?. Only thing I can see is kiddy e-peen " wah boo we got patched first, u suxor " bragging rights . ( the fact that the serenity players wudn`t understand a word is irrelevant ). The fact is that the income from serenity is paying for a much larger dev team then we had before , so we are getting patches/new content months earlier then we would without serenity .
Bhoki Tentor	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:52:00 - [20] Originally by: Bhaal Originally by: Eris Discordia Originally by: Surly Bob Learn Chinese and go post on that forum, and someone might pay attention. Pretty much every change since Serenity came online has been to serve that market. Face it, friends, China is the hot new Achura in the bar, and we're just the dried up old Civire that nobody even bothers talking to, anymore. -Actually most of the designs used on TQ and Serenity are designed here in Iceland. -Most of the devs don¦t speak Chinese and read these forums for feedback on any upcoming changes. -Most of the devs have their player characters on TQ and not on Serenity. If it helps think of Serenity and TQ as twins, there are only subtle differences between them but when their parents redecorate their room they will benefit both from it in one way or another. They can use their own personal toys to give their corner more personal flair so to speak. Yes, twins, like the movie... TQ is Danny DeVitto, except with red hair, not bald... good one! touchT
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:53:00 - [21] Originally by: The Enslaver Serenity, now that it is live, has at most 10,000 people online at peak time, and each account is paying a third of the amount that TQ accounts are paying. Trust me, CCP isn't giving it priority. Not only has it got less people and less revenue, but almost everything with regards to the china cluster is handled by a seperate company anyway. CCP aren't stupid. I think 10.000 is pretty good.. what did TQ have when it went live? 6000? I dont know, personally im just happy if ccp is successful both in China and Europe. But im strange. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Idaeus Gallente Crimson Wings Squadron	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:53:00 - [22] Originally by: Jim McGregor Nice view of the world you have there... so if europe isnt the largest community anymore, we are worthless? According to the recent interview here ( onpage 2) you Euros aren't the largest community anymore, with about 43% of the players being US based. I wouldn't say you're worthless though. I'd be terribly upset if I couldn't engage in some New World versus Old World PVP. +IOI?
DigitalCommunist Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:54:00 - [23] Why is Serenity failing? What happened to all those subscribers? Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
Valeo Galaem InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:55:00 - [24] And the Chinese get to moan that they have to beta test our features. What's your point? Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied! CONCORD Encryption
Surly Bob The Church of Violentology	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:56:00 - [25] Originally by: Celestal So how exactly is serenity getting a patch earlier then TQ considered to be of negative benefit to us?. Because every nerf on Serenity is a stealth nerf to us, 3 months later, when we get their code. Why? because we don't know what they are changing on Serenity, and we aren't even allowed to log on there to find out. --- Add a MANUAL 0km warp option. Leave autopilot at 15km ranges. Done. All fixed.
Qahlan	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:56:00 - [26] How many of you believe that the landing on the moon was faked and it was really the CIA that killed Marilyn Monroe?
Katabrok First Caldari Kindergarden Corp	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:57:00 - [27] Originally by: Jim McGregor I think 10.000 is pretty good.. what did TQ have when it went live? 6000? I dont know, personally im just happy if ccp is successful both in China and Europe. But im strange. Agree with you in this... The more the merrier.... Katabrok, the space barbarian. I want the The Correct DreadÖ!!!!
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:57:00 - [28] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Why is Serenity failing? What happened to all those subscribers? I would assume that they didn't subscribe for whatever reason after the open beta... --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
aggiedog	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:02:00 - [29] I tend to agree with you on this one. Why is it that Singularity has problems with 25k+ people and the Chinese server seems to be doing incredibly well with over 38k? I mean, wouldn't you want the best equipment for your main income source? --------------------------------------------- Make Doomsday weapons available for frigates!
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:04:00 - [30] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Why is Serenity failing? What happened to all those subscribers? Yea i was also surpised by the number's.It orginaly seemed to be doing damn well.Hell it beat TQ on the first day i believe. Is CCP losing money with this venture or are they allready covered?And only the company handling EVE over in china will take a hit from this? CCP where are our t2 shield power relays?

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