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Rosita Renegade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.22 11:23:45 -
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After the last trailer,
Just... wow
Someone had to say it  |
Rufelza
Widowmakers
1
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Posted - 2014.11.22 13:38:40 -
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Rosita Renegade wrote:After the last trailer, Just... wow Someone had to say it
+1
Need I say more?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
13311
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Posted - 2014.11.22 13:46:56 -
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... or is it the last effort to save the dying game?!?!?! 
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Twitter @Chribba
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Ursula Thrace
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
279
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Posted - 2014.11.22 13:48:58 -
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i think i've watched the trailer about 6 times since yesterday. i'll probably watch it again today. i think from a marketing standpoint, this video may do more for pulling in new subs than any other video before it. real players, real situations, real drama.
as i said in another thread - if you don't play eve and you watch this video (assuming you are a sci-fi + mmo fan) and don't end up at least trying it out, you don't have a pulse.
eve online original intro
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Josef Djugashvilis
2695
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Posted - 2014.11.22 14:15:00 -
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Trailer...?
This is not a signature.
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
974
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Posted - 2014.11.22 14:36:08 -
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YA'LL COME DOWN HEEYAH IN TENNESSEE, WE GOT LOTS OF TRAILERS!
\m/ O.o \m/
"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1101
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Posted - 2014.11.22 14:42:57 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:YA'LL COME DOWN HEEYAH IN TENNESSEE, WE GOT LOTS OF TRAILERS!
But none of them see the action & thrill that this EVE trailer sees!
Strange Sleeper ships & speculations about conspiracies!
Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapons!
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Jacques d'Orleans
Epiphany Industries
0
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Posted - 2014.11.22 15:03:20 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:YA'LL COME DOWN HEEYAH IN TENNESSEE, WE GOT LOTS OF TRAILERS!
But none of them see the action & thrill that this EVE trailer sees!
Yeah, that's because they have been repoed lately! 
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7258
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Posted - 2014.11.22 16:40:24 -
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Rosita Renegade wrote:Eve is not dying After the last trailer, Just... wow
Nope, just a lot of pilots dying during the last trailer.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
226
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Posted - 2014.11.22 17:08:52 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2X1MIR1KMs
Such a shame I am the first person to post the link in this thread, I am disappointed.
Creator of the EVE Custom Ship Labeler application:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
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Caiman Graystock
Confederation Navy Research
Epsilon Fleet
35
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Posted - 2014.11.22 17:15:08 -
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I guess I'd better watch it again... for the 20th time. |
Jed Dye
Quantum Pathways
4
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Posted - 2014.11.22 17:15:55 -
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Such a shame that half of the stuff in the new trailer isn't feasible with todays mechanics  |
Othran
agony unleashed
Agony Empire
733
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Posted - 2014.11.22 17:18:37 -
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Even cynical bastards like me have to tip their hats to marketing this time.
You put together a lovely tight video that probably does deserve :awesome:
+! |
Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
200
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Posted - 2014.11.22 17:21:09 -
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Blasphemy. CCP deserves loots of cake and coookies.
CCP - Outpost code is scary.
CCP Greyscale - Starbases - They need to look @#$%ing awesome, and people need to want them and
want to be around them and have them and use them and like them and want them and stuff.
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Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1278
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Posted - 2014.11.22 17:41:50 -
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It certainly is an effort, one of the many, to bring Eve back from the dangerous precipice it has been moving toward over the past few years. I think many of the actions lately are desperate efforts to save EvE from what WAS a suicidal path. Efforts that myself and a lot of other capsuleers are very happy to see CCP undertaking. Changes are being made that a couple years ago CCP wouldn't dare consider, and I think that's part of how things got into the mess they are in now.
I too, am happy to applaud CCP on the changes they are making, but nullsec is by no means fixed. Hopefully the upcoming sov mechanics and other undivulged changes do have the oomph required to get Eve back onto a track of growth beyond the temporary spike they are going to be riding from the new release cycle and the jump nerfs. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17859
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Posted - 2014.11.22 18:13:07 -
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That is some dinsdalian level tinfoil smokery there Chribba....
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Hicksimus
Volatile Instability
Resonance.
429
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Posted - 2014.11.22 18:47:15 -
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Op Success? LOL
Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you?
Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
13317
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Posted - 2014.11.22 18:54:58 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:That is some dinsdalian level tinfoil smokery there Chribba....
We can't all be unsuccessful at everything 
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Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7258
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Posted - 2014.11.22 19:58:39 -
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Chribba wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:That is some dinsdalian level tinfoil smokery there Chribba.... We can't all be unsuccessful at everything
Ow..
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Serene Repose
1652
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Posted - 2014.11.22 20:45:05 -
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Remember...it's HOLLYWOOD!!
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
163
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Posted - 2014.11.22 20:46:48 -
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That is the greatest trailer I've ever seen.
Well done CCP
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
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Saisin
State War Academy
Caldari State
195
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Posted - 2014.11.23 04:44:47 -
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great trailer!!.. no inacurate promises
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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Nuran Mukadder
Chor Aurea
29
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Posted - 2014.11.23 04:53:58 -
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I just re-subbed because of that trailer. I couldn't control myself.
What can I say? I missed Space Spreadsheets Online. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3487
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Posted - 2014.11.23 05:01:11 -
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I thought I closed that thread.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9067
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Posted - 2014.11.23 06:12:46 -
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Mharius Skjem wrote:That is the greatest trailer I've ever seen. Well done CCP
Seconded, I ran into 3 guys tonight I hadn't seen in ages , they are back because of the trailer. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
818
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:29:55 -
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Jed Dye wrote:Such a shame that half of the stuff in the new trailer isn't feasible with todays mechanics
Still feasible and not to take from the trailer, it's a good trailer in terms of promoting the comradery aspects of EVE but like the new mechanics, like much of EVE it's the down time between these moments is what kills EVE for many. It's needed down time. Ship and fit replacement is a slow process but for the pure PvP, gang crowd it's still a kill joy.
The clone grade system being abolished needs a Sci-fi trailer or lead up in one of the Capsuleer threat developments. I really think it will have a huge impact on stagnation in the game. I expect that change alone to spawn a lot more LOLFleets in EVE. T1 to T2 cruiser cost is 30:1 but 20 mill clones x 30 losses removed it as an option, for me at least. |
Lan Wang
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
105
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Posted - 2014.11.23 11:06:09 -
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Is it just me or does everyone seem to get real happy when they encounter rooks and kings
EVEALON Creative --á****Logo Design | Killboard Banners | -áWeb Design | Website Graphics
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Mocam
EVE University
Ivy League
487
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Posted - 2014.11.23 11:45:56 -
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Either the best or at least in the top 10 trailers they've ever done. All about the gamers in this one and the voice over... Yup, that's how it tends to be.
Very nicely done. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
24
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Posted - 2014.11.23 15:59:33 -
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Dont Believe The Hype http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/21/7265355/eve-online-trailer-player-stories
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
509
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Posted - 2014.11.23 16:25:10 -
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No no no!
If it's not dying then it is already dead. That would be a shame!
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Tarpedo
Incursionista
1409
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Posted - 2014.11.23 18:08:22 -
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WoW added almost 50% players (subscribers?) after recent expansion - 3 millions total. Suddenly, instead of stagnating game we have explosive growth.
I hope one day EVE management will realize that no trailer, battle-based PR, empty promises, re-skins, debugs/balance may be compared to financial effect of actual expansion of gameplay.
p.s. interesting method to create a trailer. |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
105
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Posted - 2014.11.23 18:11:17 -
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OMFG I was watching it AGAIN!
So ****** brilliant! :O |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
105
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Posted - 2014.11.23 18:12:56 -
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Tarpedo wrote:WoW added almost 50% players (subscribers?) after recent expansion - 3 millions total. Suddenly, instead of stagnating game we have explosive growth.
I hope one day EVE management will realize that no trailer, battle-based PR, empty promises, re-skins, debugs/balance may be compared to financial effect of actual expansion of gameplay.
p.s. interesting method to create a trailer.
There's always that one guy who doesn't get it. |
Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 18:40:20 -
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Tarpedo wrote:WoW added almost 50% players (subscribers?) after recent expansion - 3 millions total. Suddenly, instead of stagnating game we have explosive growth.
I hope one day EVE management will realize that no trailer, battle-based PR, empty promises, re-skins, debugs/balance may be compared to financial effect of actual expansion of gameplay.
p.s. interesting method to create a trailer.
Umm, what? You're talking about a huge multi-million dollar investment in content growth within a game that has millions of players playing one IP (World of Warcraft) and even more within message reach that are currently deactivated (players that left World of Warcraft) within the same IP. That's not accounting for the millions of others playing other IP's under the same publisher such as StarCraft, Warcraft, Diablo and now, Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft.
And that's just talking about their current and past customer base who would listen. Then you have the huge marketing budget to actually promote the new expansion to everyone else, both new and old who have not received the message, "Hey, WoW has a hot new expansion! Check it out!"
EVE will continue to thrive off their niche market for another 10 years because at the end of the day, you don't need millions of players to still be successful. They could likely run this game on much, much lower for a very long time.
Famine Aligher'ri - Original Solo Pirate
Former The Pirate Syndicate Member
Former D.e.V.i.a.n.c.e member
Former Burn Eden member
Former BioMass Cartel member
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9069
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Posted - 2014.11.23 18:59:59 -
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Famine Aligher'ri wrote:
EVE will continue to thrive off their niche market for another 10 years because at the end of the day, you don't need millions of players to still be successful. They could likely run this game on much, much lower for a very long time.
+1 and well said.
I thiink you'll find a very vocal minorty of forum posters who don't really like EVE but play it for some kooky reason or another, and they will always try to find ways to spin a situation into "see CCP , you need to give me something more because you will make more money if you do, also think of the children".
I think you're right, EVE could survive with a lot less subscribers and still be profitable enough to continue, though I don't see that ever happening. The main people who think "EVE is dying" are the people who kind of want it to (almost) die so that CCP will change the game more towards their personal rpeferences. This is why EVERYTIME a new game is announced, they same old crew proclaims it will kill EVE (the short list is SWG, SWTOR, Black Prophecy, Jumpgate, Star Trek Online and now Elite + Star Citizen).
Funny side note, it's Not just an EVE thing lol. |
Lan Wang
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
108
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:07:13 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Famine Aligher'ri wrote:
EVE will continue to thrive off their niche market for another 10 years because at the end of the day, you don't need millions of players to still be successful. They could likely run this game on much, much lower for a very long time.
+1 and well said. I thiink you'll find a very vocal minorty of forum posters who don't really like EVE but play it for some kooky reason or another, and they will always try to find ways to spin a situation into "see CCP , you need to give me something more because you will make more money if you do, also think of the children". I think you're right, EVE could survive with a lot less subscribers and still be profitable enough to continue, though I don't see that ever happening. The main people who think "EVE is dying" are the people who kind of want it to (almost) die so that CCP will change the game more towards their personal rpeferences. This is why EVERYTIME a new game is announced, they same old crew proclaims it will kill EVE (the short list is SWG, SWTOR, Black Prophecy, Jumpgate, Star Trek Online and now Elite + Star Citizen). Funny side note, it's Not just an EVE thing lol.
ive also noticed an increase of the players online during the weekend 43k usually now, was like 33-37k so they are doing something right?
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Jayem See
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
2682
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:10:10 -
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Nuran Mukadder wrote:I just re-subbed because of that trailer. I couldn't control myself.
What can I say? I missed Space Spreadsheets Online.
Same here. My favourite FC has moved on (Trant) but I will find a way.
I did resub after this film but I have been waiting for an excuse for a long time....
Aaaaaaand relax.
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
7
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:52:06 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Famine Aligher'ri wrote:
EVE will continue to thrive off their niche market for another 10 years because at the end of the day, you don't need millions of players to still be successful. They could likely run this game on much, much lower for a very long time.
I think you're right, EVE could survive with a lot less subscribers and still be profitable enough to continue, though I don't see that ever happening. The main people who think "EVE is dying" are the people who kind of want it to (almost) die so that CCP will change the game more towards their personal rpeferences. This is why EVERYTIME a new game is announced, they same old crew proclaims it will kill EVE (the short list is SWG, SWTOR, Black Prophecy, Jumpgate, Star Trek Online and now Elite + Star Citizen).
Well, it depends on the business operations behind closed doors, but I would suspect CCP could run EVE online with a very small development team and very small operations team with a very small player base for a very long time on very little resources.
That's just my 2 cents though. I've been in EVE for 10 years and have worked in the industry (now retired) for some years too. EVE is an amazing game that has really captured their audience. To think they need WoW numbers to survive is really saying EVE should have died a long time ago. Then to question their strategy having faced amazing odds is to say you don't know EVE at all. Those of us who have been here when CCP took the journey to where it is today already know the are in this for the very long haul.
Famine Aligher'ri - Original Solo Pirate
Former The Pirate Syndicate Member
Former D.e.V.i.a.n.c.e member
Former Burn Eden member
Former BioMass Cartel member
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Rhea Rankin Nolen
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2014.11.23 20:48:11 -
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Jayem See wrote:Nuran Mukadder wrote:I just re-subbed because of that trailer. I couldn't control myself.
What can I say? I missed Space Spreadsheets Online. Same here. My favourite FC has moved on (Trant) but I will find a way. I did resub after this film but I have been waiting for an excuse for a long time....
Same here, been almost a year. Trailer just gave me that fuzzy warm feeling inside, and I just couldn't resist resubbing!
Like what has been done, like all the upcoming changes, but feel the UI modernization needs some more polish. Dat icons.
Other than that go CCP!
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
24
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Posted - 2014.11.23 21:27:13 -
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Sol Project wrote:Tarpedo wrote:WoW added almost 50% players (subscribers?) after recent expansion - 3 millions total. Suddenly, instead of stagnating game we have explosive growth.
I hope one day EVE management will realize that no trailer, battle-based PR, empty promises, re-skins, debugs/balance may be compared to financial effect of actual expansion of gameplay.
p.s. interesting method to create a trailer. There's always that one guy who doesn't get it.
I agree with Her Somewhat theres more to Growing a Player Base however I wont go into details. The facts are WOW has over 30k viewers on twitch Tv and7.8 subscribers playerbase so it does win the Popularity contest. I will give credit due CCP is trying to save this game maybe If they Do a Game of thrones tv series called Eve Who knows maybe it will get is 1 million more subscribers a day (CCP if you ever do cast a TV series PM at http://www.twitch.tv/s0lo/profile) The queston How is Eve Online going to aquire at least 1 million subscribers and of course not die?
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
24
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Posted - 2014.11.23 21:37:28 -
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Rhea Rankin Nolen wrote:Jayem See wrote:Nuran Mukadder wrote:I just re-subbed because of that trailer. I couldn't control myself.
What can I say? I missed Space Spreadsheets Online. Same here. My favourite FC has moved on (Trant) but I will find a way. I did resub after this film but I have been waiting for an excuse for a long time.... Same here, been almost a year. Trailer just gave me that fuzzy warm feeling inside, and I just couldn't resist resubbing! Like what has been done, like all the upcoming changes, but feel the UI modernization needs some more polish. Dat icons. Other than that go CCP!
I wont Lie It did get the goose bumps and that fuzzy warm feeling dont tell no one though 
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Jayem See
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
2683
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Posted - 2014.11.24 01:08:04 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Rhea Rankin Nolen wrote:Jayem See wrote:Nuran Mukadder wrote:I just re-subbed because of that trailer. I couldn't control myself.
What can I say? I missed Space Spreadsheets Online. Same here. My favourite FC has moved on (Trant) but I will find a way. I did resub after this film but I have been waiting for an excuse for a long time.... Same here, been almost a year. Trailer just gave me that fuzzy warm feeling inside, and I just couldn't resist resubbing! Like what has been done, like all the upcoming changes, but feel the UI modernization needs some more polish. Dat icons. Other than that go CCP! I wont Lie It did get the goose bumps and that fuzzy warm feeling dont tell no one though
Don't be ashamed - embrace the inner space-nerd and fly free!
Aaaaaaand relax.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
24
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Posted - 2014.11.24 02:54:37 -
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Jayem See wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:Rhea Rankin Nolen wrote:Jayem See wrote:Nuran Mukadder wrote:I just re-subbed because of that trailer. I couldn't control myself.
What can I say? I missed Space Spreadsheets Online. Same here. My favourite FC has moved on (Trant) but I will find a way. I did resub after this film but I have been waiting for an excuse for a long time.... Same here, been almost a year. Trailer just gave me that fuzzy warm feeling inside, and I just couldn't resist resubbing! Like what has been done, like all the upcoming changes, but feel the UI modernization needs some more polish. Dat icons. Other than that go CCP! I wont Lie It did get the goose bumps and that fuzzy warm feeling dont tell no one though Don't be ashamed - embrace the inner space-nerd and fly free!
Lol I will. However The next Trailer I see I wanna hear more ladies speaking on those comms
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
6020
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Posted - 2014.11.24 04:44:58 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mharius Skjem wrote:That is the greatest trailer I've ever seen. Well done CCP Seconded, I ran into 3 guys tonight I hadn't seen in ages , they are back because of the trailer.
I have to say it is an attention getter.
The lions share of my viewers are not EVE players, but I've already gotten several inquiries for more information about EVE after showing that trailer and the new hulls on Sisi. That's a very, very good sign.
This pleases me to no end, well done CCP. 
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
345
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Posted - 2014.11.24 08:33:12 -
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Rosita Renegade wrote:After the last trailer, Just... wow Someone had to say it
OP Success.
CCP Seagull delivers once more!
+9000
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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flaming phantom
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
46
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Posted - 2014.11.24 11:46:51 -
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I have to say that I think this is one of the coolest trailers I have seen in a while too. I really like the other oe CCP did a while back for the bloodbath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O56g8KC6CM
All great men have mustaches
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Mace Dargo
Umbra Consilium
Umbra Imperium
0
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Posted - 2014.11.24 16:37:05 -
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TLDR: ***Potential flame material warning*** These are my opinions and opinions only.
A friend of mine posted this trailer on facebook. To which I posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSjd6HNQdY&index=57&list=FLuXNGoPRvBEYnKqhBtRv9OQ
I then followed up with:
"New mechanics have come into play that will probably kill such large scale battles. What's more, the alliances involved/advertised rarely (if ever) recruit. They are made up of comfortable alts that run so called 'noob swarms' with each player having a kill/mining quota. The aforementioned new mechanics will also serve to cut the numbers of these alliances so recruitment is certainly out of the window."
Imho, null sec hinges on the renters now. If I had my say, no renting. Either fight for that space or wait until it becomes unsustainable to hold, then take it. Rentsec sounds like a terrible idea. Though in defence of Eve Online I did finish by saying:
"Eve Online is a good game, in fact it's a great game with great people so long as you understand a few vital points:
Everyone wants you ship/loot/life, trust nobody.
You will never see most of the nullsec/endgame content. It is owned by superpowerful alliances that don't want you running those missions. If you want the rewards you must buy it from said alliances, if you want the story..... sorry but it won't happen."
I have returned after a few years of inactivity not because of the trailer, but because eve is a great game even with all of it's flaws. However I do remember the ol' "Scam an alliance" trailer. Yeah, that one made me quit as I had recently suffered a similar fate. lol.
Flame me if you must, these are just my opinions. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
1851
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:01:02 -
[48] - Quote
Two weeks wardec. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9076
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:13:46 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Mace Dargo wrote:I am a dull man of little ambition, you too should consign yourselves to hopelessness and mediocrity just like I have. Two weeks wardec.
+1
One of my favorite EVE sayings apply: if you aren't having fun in a sandbox, it's not the sands fault.
I know it's the internet, but dear icleandic space God, I didn't realize so many neurotic haters existed till I read various comments about how the trailer isn't real EVE. Hell, I deal with people accused of crimes in real life and THEY aren't as hateful as people on the internet are when the subject is a video game they dislike lol. |
Mace Dargo
Umbra Consilium
Umbra Imperium
0
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Posted - 2014.11.24 19:59:36 -
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I didn't say I don't have fun. Far from it, if I hated the game I wouldn't have come back, nor would I have said it's a good game. I'm just bringing the trailer down to a more realistic peg. If you aren't friends with the right people you are consigned to high sec.
@ Jenn; it's true, if you're not having fun in a sand box it isn't the sands fault. (lets use the analogy of kids playing in a literal sandbox) I can have all the fun I want, but there are a whole bunch of other, bigger kids who's opinion towards me is everything from "Stay out of our way (nbsi) to this isn't your sandbox, it's mine".
It's a trap that falls upon any game that gives the players as much power, but I digress.
I have plenty of fun in eve, I just disagree with the balance of power amongst an elite few players..... bo ho me.
@ Vimsy: Don't be such a queeny little ***** V, it's just an opinion. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9076
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:38:46 -
[51] - Quote
Mace Dargo wrote:I didn't say I don't have fun. Far from it, if I hated the game I wouldn't have come back, nor would I have said it's a good game. I'm just bringing the trailer down to a more realistic peg. If you aren't friends with the right people you are consigned to high sec.
This is a lie ('misunderstanding of the game' isn't a strong enough term here).
The gates out of high sec don't generate a pop up asking "who sent you, are you friends with the right folks" before letting you jump to low or null or wormhole space. The stations in low and npc null doesn't ask this question either. The npcs in low, null or wormhole space don't deflect your bullets like wonder woman's bracelets if you're in the wrong alliance.
EVE is a sandbox MMO, and like all sandbox MMOs there is a benefit to grouping up, but none of that prevents a person from living purely solo. plenty of people do it and many don't even live in high sec. If you're in high sec it means either you want to be there or you don't want to be there but you're too anti-social to make friends (any friends, not just 'the right ones') or not competent enough of an EVE player to fly a ship that can fit a cloak and/or dock in an npc station.
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@ Jenn; it's true, if you're not having fun in a sand box it isn't the sands fault. (lets use the analogy of kids playing in a literal sandbox) I can have all the fun I want, but there are a whole bunch of other, bigger kids who's opinion towards me is everything from "Stay out of our way (nbsi) to this isn't your sandbox, it's mine".
It's a trap that falls upon any game that gives the players as much power, but I digress.
I have plenty of fun in eve, I just disagree with the balance of power amongst an elite few players..... bo ho me.
@ Vimsy: Don't be such a queeny little ***** V, it's just an opinion.
The 2 areas of your post I highlighted illustrate what has to be part of your problem with EVE (or how you perceive EVE). "Others players don't want me to do things" has been the mantra of many uncreative and unambitious players since the dawn of multiplayer games.
(I mean ALL multiplayer games, not just electronic ones, thousands of years ago some dude playing an ancient form of chess complained about the same thing, and for the same reason, to psychologically mask his own lack of ability lol).
That there are people to compete against is the PURPOSE of a game like EVE. Where you see barriers (that somehow hold people in high sec), others of us see minor obstacles which have to be dealt with and understand that fun comes from dealing with (outsmarting) those obstacles. If the 'barriers people' spent near as much time trying to figure things out as they spent giving up then complaining about NBSI on some forums, they'd have beaten down those barriers by now.
The last part, the part I underlined, demonstrates a rather fail mindset, and one demonstrated by many a misplace thempark player in EVE. Themepark games shield players from 'undue' influence of other players .
Sandbox games do not, sandboxs allow nature to takes it's course, with sandbox-freedom resulting in natural inequality between the capable and the incapable (and also resulting in the also natural phenomenon of the incapable complaining about the natural order of things on the nearest forum).
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Mace Dargo
Umbra Consilium
Umbra Imperium
0
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:57:33 -
[52] - Quote
Pick any of the above, I'm happy with either or all. I'll play my way, barriers or not, which will affect my opinion of the game, which will affect what I tell others of it. Such is the way of things. |
Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
40
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Posted - 2014.11.24 21:21:54 -
[53] - Quote
******* goose bumps. |
Gerno Utrigas
Deus lo Vult
0
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Posted - 2014.11.24 21:43:58 -
[54] - Quote
+1
EVE Online is the best MMORPG for me. Will never pay for any other MMORPG.
Alfurras > Guys, Ok, so there was this big flash and my ship turned into what looks like an egg. Did I level up?
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Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
867
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Posted - 2014.11.24 21:52:07 -
[55] - Quote
Jed Dye wrote:Such a shame that half of the stuff in the new trailer isn't feasible with todays mechanics
Trolling much? |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
2078
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Posted - 2014.11.24 22:01:23 -
[56] - Quote
Mace Dargo wrote:You will never see most of the nullsec/endgame content.
Huh, that's funny, in the past week I've been out in Venal, Tenerifis, Curse, at least one other sov null region I can't remember, inumerable wormholes, and all over low-sec, and not once has anyone charged me for the privilege. Of course, I had to run from a Heretic, which provided a good time playing Hunt for Red October, but I did it all solo (like actually solo, single character). I also mainly PvP solo, which means losing a lot, but it also means the wins are that much sweeter. tbh there really isn't any "end game content" in EVE, it's a sandbox.
Unless you're talking titans or something, in which case get some friends because they need a fleet and an alliance to back them up.
A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
11
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Posted - 2014.11.25 02:48:12 -
[57] - Quote
Mace Dargo wrote:If you aren't friends with the right people you are consigned to high sec.
This is a good quote for people who don't understand nor how to truly play the game.
I'm not saying that to be insulting or mean. It's just that, from the 10 years I've played this game, I've never really played well with others. I've mostly always been solo and yet, I still manage to get into any content I want.
I mean, yes, it's difficult if you're not invited to the party, but that's what EVE is all about -- crashing the party if you want too. Who is going to stop you? Surely not the developers in almost all cases.
The problem is that so many players are used to game developers holding their hands and saying, 'Yes, you should have access to this content. Let me make you a private instance and virtually remove all human interaction from your experience unless they are apart of your approved list of course."
That's not EVE. No hand hold here. You get a ship, some guns and a nudge in the right or wrong direction. And for that, that's why I mentioned you don't understand nor know how to truly play this game if your only come back is, "you are consigned to high sec."
No, you are not.
Famine Aligher'ri - Original Solo Pirate
Former The Pirate Syndicate Member
Former D.e.V.i.a.n.c.e member
Former Burn Eden member
Former BioMass Cartel member
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
998
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Posted - 2014.11.25 03:06:19 -
[58] - Quote
Mace Dargo wrote:I didn't say I don't have fun. Far from it, if I hated the game I wouldn't have come back, nor would I have said it's a good game. I'm just bringing the trailer down to a more realistic peg. If you aren't friends with the right people you are consigned to high sec.
Dead WRONG. There are new, PUBLIC NPSI groups forming all the time, ala the old Bombers Bar and now Spectre Fleet being the largest. Matter of fact, one of the scenes (maybe the first, idr) in the new trailer was OF Bombers Bar on a run. There are public NPSI fleets running literally every day and every night, and you dont have to have any friends at all to join them, you simply have to X up in the channel.
Not only does this give you GOOD content every day that you want to do it, you may just end up MAKING some friends while you're at it.
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@ Jenn; it's true, if you're not having fun in a sand box it isn't the sands fault. (lets use the analogy of kids playing in a literal sandbox) I can have all the fun I want, but there are a whole bunch of other, bigger kids who's opinion towards me is everything from "Stay out of our way (nbsi) to this isn't your sandbox, it's mine".
It's a trap that falls upon any game that gives the players as much power, but I digress.
Man, it's just like real life, or pretty much any scenario real or imagined that you can come up with. There is always going to be someone else bigger, faster, smarter, more experienced (etc etc) than you. If you think that dooms you to the bottom of the barrel, you're doing it wrong.
\m/ O.o \m/
"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
212
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Posted - 2014.11.25 12:17:24 -
[59] - Quote
Tarpedo wrote:WoW added almost 50% players (subscribers?) after recent expansion - 3 millions total. Suddenly, instead of stagnating game we have explosive growth.
I hope one day EVE management will realize that no trailer, battle-based PR, empty promises, re-skins, debugs/balance may be compared to financial effect of actual expansion of gameplay.
p.s. interesting method to create a trailer.
Please don't copy WoW. Pandas in space would really suck. If that is what you call "expanded game play" i don't want it.
Expansions in most MMOs do not expand game play. They add one more linear story that everyone somehow independently completes.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
620
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Posted - 2014.11.25 13:08:18 -
[60] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Mharius Skjem wrote:That is the greatest trailer I've ever seen. Well done CCP Seconded, I ran into 3 guys tonight I hadn't seen in ages , they are back because of the trailer.
I'm seeing the same - ran into a whole bunch of folk in the last couple of days that I haven't seen round for a year or two. |
Zedutchman
The Miners of Hyperion
5
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Posted - 2014.11.25 15:54:04 -
[61] - Quote
eve is realsing a big content update as well.
No where near the scale of wow.... but eve is nowhere near the scale of wow..... nor does it want to be.
Where the hell would we even PUT 10 million players. |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
251
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:11:31 -
[62] - Quote
Zedutchman wrote:
Where the hell would we even PUT 10 million players.
Jita, then destroy the stargates, then allow all stations to be destructible. Battle royale time!
The allow the survivor to take a wormhole back to high sec where he will promptly lose his ship and pod to gankers.
Or he will land in a wormhole system without a probe launcher and/or no wormholes to scan. Lost for all time in space. |
Ramiel Wayfarer
2
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Posted - 2014.11.27 00:31:31 -
[63] - Quote
eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
eve online in 2014 average 20000 players mid week in the evening
CCP knew what they were doing when they changed the game mechanics along the way and messed everything up...Eve used to be fun to play but not anymore.
DODO is probably just round the corner. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1060
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Posted - 2014.11.27 00:49:59 -
[64] - Quote
So watch the trailer again and pay attention to the number of things that promoted group play and the number of things that spoke to solo play. CCP did a good job representing both. Overall a good job on the trailer.
Hopefully the next video promotes a new type of gameplay to attract a broader audience.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
267
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Posted - 2014.11.27 00:56:00 -
[65] - Quote
Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
eve online in 2014 average 20000 players mid week in the evening
CCP knew what they were doing when they changed the game mechanics along the way and messed everything up...Eve used to be fun to play but not anymore.
DODO is probably just round the corner.
hahahhaha the record in 2009 was 45000
Take your doomspeak back to the basement. |
Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
272
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Posted - 2014.11.27 07:18:30 -
[66] - Quote
How can the good citizens of General Discussion let the tripe from Ramiel Wayfarer go with out trolling his silliness into the ground? |
Ramiel Wayfarer
2
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:47:38 -
[67] - Quote
Cancel Align NOW wrote:Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
eve online in 2014 average 20000 players mid week in the evening
CCP knew what they were doing when they changed the game mechanics along the way and messed everything up...Eve used to be fun to play but not anymore.
DODO is probably just round the corner. hahahhaha the record in 2009 was 45000Take your doomspeak back to the basement.
I guess the truth hurts
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Ramiel Wayfarer
2
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:49:52 -
[68] - Quote
Cancel Align NOW wrote:Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
eve online in 2014 average 20000 players mid week in the evening
CCP knew what they were doing when they changed the game mechanics along the way and messed everything up...Eve used to be fun to play but not anymore.
DODO is probably just round the corner. hahahhaha the record in 2009 was 45000Take your doomspeak back to the basement.
It may of been 45000 in 2009 but we are talking about 2014...Look at the above post.....wake up
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Magnasis Drakkenwolf
9
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:03:01 -
[69] - Quote
Rosita Renegade wrote:After the last trailer, Just... wow Someone had to say it
There can be only one..
http://www.youtube.com/user/KensCrazyGaming
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
284
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Posted - 2014.11.30 09:01:25 -
[70] - Quote
Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
You're telling me to wake up?
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Wanderingpawz
EVE University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2014.12.03 03:29:09 -
[71] - Quote
"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!' Eve is not a game, it's an institution . It'll be here long after Wayfarer moves outta' his Mommas' basement. |
Gunnar Ward
Justified Chaos
Spaceship Bebop
1
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Posted - 2014.12.03 17:49:17 -
[72] - Quote
On a lighter note... I get so friggin giddy everytime I listen to the clips from Bombers Bar. Great trailer.
And yes, I have seen the BB video on it's own |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
836
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Posted - 2014.12.03 18:35:17 -
[73] - Quote
Gunnar Ward wrote:On a lighter note... I get so friggin giddy everytime I listen to the clips from Bombers Bar. Great trailer.
And yes, I have seen the BB video on it's own
Maybe it's just my own experience, but holy hell, bomber FCs are some rather excited gentlemen when their runs go well.
Between the BB FC, and DBRB, I'm not sure who wins the "woohooooo and ****" award. Different styles of giddy, but about on par with each other. |
Amarra Menethil
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.12.03 19:15:28 -
[74] - Quote
EVE IS DYING!
THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE IS GIVE FEMALE AMARR ROBES AND HOODIES! |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
412
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Posted - 2014.12.03 19:18:37 -
[75] - Quote
eve is dead the launcher is in offline mode 
You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
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ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
412
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Posted - 2014.12.03 19:19:31 -
[76] - Quote
working now
You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
328
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Posted - 2014.12.03 19:51:11 -
[77] - Quote
Zedutchman wrote:eve is realsing a big content update as well.
No where near the scale of wow.... but eve is nowhere near the scale of wow..... nor does it want to be.
Where the hell would we even PUT 10 million players.
In an additional 50,000 systems across a bigger galaxy.
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
292
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Posted - 2014.12.03 20:25:28 -
[78] - Quote
Shizuken wrote:Zedutchman wrote:eve is realsing a big content update as well.
No where near the scale of wow.... but eve is nowhere near the scale of wow..... nor does it want to be.
Where the hell would we even PUT 10 million players. In an additional 50,000 systems across a bigger galaxy.
n+1 > n. In its current form if eve ever had 10 million players online at once it would need to be able to support 1 million of those 10 million in the same system at the same time. To alter that preposition we would need a drastically different sov system or to change the sandbox.
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Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2437
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Posted - 2014.12.03 20:44:45 -
[79] - Quote
Famine Aligher'ri wrote:Mace Dargo wrote:If you aren't friends with the right people you are consigned to high sec.
This is a good quote for people who don't understand nor how to truly play the game. I'm not saying that to be insulting or mean. It's just that, from the 10 years I've played this game, I've never really played well with others. I've mostly always been solo and yet, I still manage to get into any content I want. I mean, yes, it's difficult if you're not invited to the party, but that's what EVE is all about -- crashing the party if you want too. Who is going to stop you? Surely not the developers in almost all cases. The problem is that so many players are used to game developers holding their hands and saying, 'Yes, you should have access to this content. Let me make you a private instance and virtually remove all human interaction from your experience unless they are apart of your approved list of course." That's not EVE. No hand hold here. You get a ship, some guns and a nudge in the right or wrong direction. And for that, that's why I mentioned you don't understand nor know how to truly play this game if your only come back is, "you are consigned to high sec." No, you are not.
pretty much this.
the best fun is when you crash someone's party (3-way yo!), and break their toys and bathe in the tears of both sides.
it's glorious.
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right
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Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid
The Periphery
143
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Posted - 2014.12.03 23:28:04 -
[80] - Quote
YAY i wanna play eve.... wait where was the ship spinning in that video! MOAR SHIP SPINNING!!! |
Toad The Hitchhiker
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.12.04 01:58:14 -
[81] - Quote
Cancel Align NOW wrote:Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
You're telling me to wake up?
While he may have been off about the numbers, he is right in the sentiment. The all time average for the life of EVE is 27,460 and that includes years of "No one knows what this game is"
The record of 65,303 was set 19 months ago and the average for the last three months is 25,030 and that includes almost 2700 dust players (who dont count).
So using a bit of math you can see the game has regressed since a peak in the 2012-2013 area, with a plateau even in 2008... meaning the game has not grown since 2008 and started its decline at a steady but slow rate in 2013.
The Veld Lord might be right, this is probably the best marketing attempt to stop the bleeding in a long time, but I don't think subs are going to increase any time soon. In fact I predict a much faster rate of decline in the coming months. |
Shaleb Heworo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.12.04 02:38:10 -
[82] - Quote
Toad The Hitchhiker wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
You're telling me to wake up? While he may have been off about the numbers, he is right in the sentiment. The all time average for the life of EVE is 27,460 and that includes years of "No one knows what this game is" The record of 65,303 was set 19 months ago and the average for the last three months is 25,030 and that includes almost 2700 dust players (who dont count). So using a bit of math you can see the game has regressed since a peak in the 2012-2013 area, with a plateau even in 2008... meaning the game has not grown since 2008 and started its decline at a steady but slow rate in 2013. The Veld Lord might be right, this is probably the best marketing attempt to stop the bleeding in a long time, but I don't think subs are going to increase any time soon. In fact I predict a much faster rate of decline in the coming months.
There never was a weekly average of 65,303. Highest was a spike around 36k and now it's 26k an rising. I don't want to put much effort in this reply because you clearly have an agenda and therfore I highly doubt that the better argument will win the discussion. Anyway let me say this: From an economic point of view it is highly unlikely that Eve is going to "die" anytime soon simply because as a product it is unique and the type of player it caters to doesn't have much of a choice.
Furthermore the drop in weekly average might be indeed connected with rising plex prices and especially nullsec folks unsubbing some but not all of their multiple accounts. This would not hurt eves appeal or playability as an mmo too much since the level of real activity would stay roughly the same depite a decreased weekly average in numbers. The fact that actual pvp activity is at an all time high supports this hypothesis
That being said: Even if there was a drop there is no reason to assume CCP wouldn't be able to acquire more new players in the future simply because they do have a great and unique product and from where i'm standing that's exactly what seems to happen with the trailer and many of the changes already implementd and planend for the near future. |
Toad The Hitchhiker
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.12.04 02:41:50 -
[83] - Quote
Shaleb Heworo wrote:Toad The Hitchhiker wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
You're telling me to wake up? While he may have been off about the numbers, he is right in the sentiment. The all time average for the life of EVE is 27,460 and that includes years of "No one knows what this game is" The record of 65,303 was set 19 months ago and the average for the last three months is 25,030 and that includes almost 2700 dust players (who dont count). So using a bit of math you can see the game has regressed since a peak in the 2012-2013 area, with a plateau even in 2008... meaning the game has not grown since 2008 and started its decline at a steady but slow rate in 2013. The Veld Lord might be right, this is probably the best marketing attempt to stop the bleeding in a long time, but I don't think subs are going to increase any time soon. In fact I predict a much faster rate of decline in the coming months. Stuff
I am going to let you re-read what I posted and then you can tell me where I claimed there was an average of 65k... I said the record was 65k. |
Shaleb Heworo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.12.04 03:01:10 -
[84] - Quote
Toad The Hitchhiker wrote:Shaleb Heworo wrote:Toad The Hitchhiker wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
You're telling me to wake up? While he may have been off about the numbers, he is right in the sentiment. The all time average for the life of EVE is 27,460 and that includes years of "No one knows what this game is" The record of 65,303 was set 19 months ago and the average for the last three months is 25,030 and that includes almost 2700 dust players (who dont count). So using a bit of math you can see the game has regressed since a peak in the 2012-2013 area, with a plateau even in 2008... meaning the game has not grown since 2008 and started its decline at a steady but slow rate in 2013. The Veld Lord might be right, this is probably the best marketing attempt to stop the bleeding in a long time, but I don't think subs are going to increase any time soon. In fact I predict a much faster rate of decline in the coming months. Stuff I am going to let you re-read what I posted and then you can tell me where I claimed there was an average of 65k... I said the record was 65k.
Yes, but my guess would be the following: By talking about (weekly) averages and then quoting those two numbers next to each other you intentionally created the impression that the division of these numbers actually is the factor by which weekly average log in numbers have decreased. For what other reason would you quote those fairly unrelated numbers in close order? Can you name one?
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Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation
DemSal Unlimited
2069
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Posted - 2014.12.04 03:01:57 -
[85] - Quote
I like numbers a lot and I hate seeing the poor little things abused.
Are we the best we have ever been in terms of concurrent online users? No. But I think we are the best we have ever been in terms of gameplay. Vets are coming back.
Look at the link below
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility and at least have the decency to look at the graphs and see if we are going up or down and how it compares to other times.
I don't think we are dying, far from it.
but you keep spouting that meme, it makes you seem so . . . original and cutting edge
m
Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
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Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2014.12.04 03:05:16 -
[86] - Quote
Pretty trailers and boring ass mechanics...eve will limp on like a leper
*still loves eve...damit*
o7
Vapor
The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
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Toad The Hitchhiker
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.12.04 03:11:50 -
[87] - Quote
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:While he may have been off about the numbers, he is right in the sentiment. The all time average for the life of EVE is 27,460 and that includes years of "No one knows what this game is"
The record of 65,303 was set 19 months ago and the average for the last three months is 25,030 and that includes almost 2700 dust players (who dont count).
So using a bit of math you can see the game has regressed since a peak in the 2012-2013 area, with a plateau even in 2008... meaning the game has not grown since 2008 and started its decline at a steady but slow rate in 2013.
The Veld Lord might be right, this is probably the best marketing attempt to stop the bleeding in a long time, but I don't think subs are going to increase any time soon. In fact I predict a much faster rate of decline in the coming months. Stuff I am going to let you re-read what I posted and then you can tell me where I claimed there was an average of 65k... I said the record was 65k. Yes, but my guess would be the following: By talking about (weekly) averages and then quoting those two numbers next to each other you intentionally created the impression that the division of these numbers actually is the factor by which weekly average log in numbers have decreased. For what other reason would you quote those fairly unrelated numbers in close order? Can you name one?
Because I was talking about two different things perhaps. On one hand you have averages, which currently are below the historical total average and dropping. One the other hand you have the moment those averages started to decrease... May of 2013. If you can't understand that, perhaps you shouldn't make assumptions about my interpretation of statistics.
@Mike Azariah... eve-offline is where the numbers come from that supports the only logical conclusion available to us. Eve has not grown since 2008 and has declined since early 2013. Don't sugarcoat it. The game should have continued the modest expansion of 2006-2008 but instead stopped dead in its tracks. Furthermore first time account creation increased but total population decreased, showing that either long term players are abandoning the game, or new accounts are not resubbing. |
Shaleb Heworo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.12.04 04:59:55 -
[88] - Quote
Toad The Hitchhiker wrote:Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:While he may have been off about the numbers, he is right in the sentiment. The all time average for the life of EVE is 27,460 and that includes years of "No one knows what this game is"
The record of 65,303 was set 19 months ago and the average for the last three months is 25,030 and that includes almost 2700 dust players (who dont count).
So using a bit of math you can see the game has regressed since a peak in the 2012-2013 area, with a plateau even in 2008... meaning the game has not grown since 2008 and started its decline at a steady but slow rate in 2013.
The Veld Lord might be right, this is probably the best marketing attempt to stop the bleeding in a long time, but I don't think subs are going to increase any time soon. In fact I predict a much faster rate of decline in the coming months. Stuff I am going to let you re-read what I posted and then you can tell me where I claimed there was an average of 65k... I said the record was 65k. Yes, but my guess would be the following: By talking about (weekly) averages and then quoting those two numbers next to each other you intentionally created the impression that the division of these numbers actually is the factor by which weekly average log in numbers have decreased. For what other reason would you quote those fairly unrelated numbers in close order? Can you name one? Because I was talking about two different things perhaps. On one hand you have averages, which currently are below the historical total average and dropping. One the other hand you have the moment those averages started to decrease... May of 2013. If you can't understand that, perhaps you shouldn't make assumptions about my interpretation of statistics. @Mike Azariah... eve-offline is where the numbers come from that supports the only logical conclusion available to us. Eve has not grown since 2008 and has declined since early 2013. Don't sugarcoat it. The game should have continued the modest expansion of 2006-2008 but instead stopped dead in its tracks. Furthermore first time account creation increased but total population decreased, showing that either long term players are abandoning the game, or new accounts are not resubbing.
Why would you even mention a maximum and an average in the same sentence? You still havn't answered that. Because of that and for reasons stated before your conclusions to me seem premature and pretty clearly driven by an agenda. |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Retribution.
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Posted - 2014.12.04 14:12:11 -
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Rosita Renegade wrote:After the last trailer, Just... wow Someone had to say it
sorry but it is |
Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2014.12.04 14:39:27 -
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EVE is not dying, it is undead.
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
Safety's Set To Red
27425
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Posted - 2014.12.04 15:00:57 -
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A failed attempt, this game is crashing.
in 12 months there will no longer be an EVE Online.
Founder of the Graycember movement and LAGL's pet cat.
Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
I like to gank it, gank it!
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Ashlar Maidstone
Kiith Paktu
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
130
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Posted - 2014.12.04 15:20:07 -
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THIS, is in and of itself, EPICNESS!! Next person that says "Eve is dying" Ima gonna bench slap 'em silly! And yes I live in a trailer in Tenn. too!!
I watched the trailer maybe 4 times and gotta tell ya honestly that CCP is on the path to redemption, AND I see hopefully a bright future for all of us!! |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
201
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Posted - 2014.12.04 15:22:35 -
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Eve is dying. I live in north Alabama so you won't have to drive your lawnmower too far. |
Ashlar Maidstone
Kiith Paktu
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
130
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Posted - 2014.12.04 16:08:54 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:Eve is dying. I live in north Alabama so you won't have to drive your lawnmower too far.
LOL! OK, next time UT and "Bama plays we'll see if Eve is dying or not for sure!!
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Araxmas
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
2
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Posted - 2014.12.04 17:35:36 -
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I'm still waiting for the "OMG Zydrine in Lowsec?!" to kill the game.
Oh and also the Revelations HP buff..
and cap ships..
and the nano nerf..
and FW..
and BoB..
and T2..
and m0o..
Yeah bascially cretins who don't understand subscriber flux keep parroting how X will cause the heat death of Eve.
Free advice: NEVER extrapolate when working out something, just because subs are down for a few months doesn't mean it will carry on forever and ever, also ditto on when subs go up.
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Ramiel Wayfarer
2
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Posted - 2014.12.06 16:16:44 -
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Toad The Hitchhiker wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:eve online in 2007 average 50000 + players mid week in the evening
You're telling me to wake up? While he may have been off about the numbers, he is right in the sentiment. The all time average for the life of EVE is 27,460 and that includes years of "No one knows what this game is" The record of 65,303 was set 19 months ago and the average for the last three months is 25,030 and that includes almost 2700 dust players (who dont count). So using a bit of math you can see the game has regressed since a peak in the 2012-2013 area, with a plateau even in 2008... meaning the game has not grown since 2008 and started its decline at a steady but slow rate in 2013. The Veld Lord might be right, this is probably the best marketing attempt to stop the bleeding in a long time, but I don't think subs are going to increase any time soon. In fact I predict a much faster rate of decline in the coming months.
Ok I admit I may of been off on the numbers slightly but most got the drift and thanks for your info and figures...
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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:14:22 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:I like numbers a lot and I hate seeing the poor little things abused. Are we the best we have ever been in terms of concurrent online users? No. But I think we are the best we have ever been in terms of gameplay. Vets are coming back. Look at the link below http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility and at least have the decency to look at the graphs and see if we are going up or down and how it compares to other times. I don't think we are dying, far from it. but you keep spouting that meme, it makes you seem so . . . original and cutting edge m
maybe you should have looked at the link before posting so you wouldn't embarrass yourself. His post is accurate. We're on a downwards trend since 2013, hence, ccp recently getting their act together somewhat. They got a real scare when they realised their cash cow needs attention and won't go on forever fuelling their poorly-planned side projects. |
Amarr Citizen 1312151005
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2014.12.06 20:21:27 -
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Only actual game play at 3:31 lol. I have never seen a group of people try so hard to convince them selves they are playing a game that is relevant anymore. If you enjoy the game great, but man it is pretty funny seeing these kings of post. When I am enjoying a game I stay off the forums of that game and play it. |
Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
308
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Posted - 2014.12.06 20:29:56 -
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Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:
Ok I admit I may of been off on the numbers slightly but most got the drift and thanks for your info and figures...
Slightly off? 18 months and 18000 logins. Have some things to sell you in game - my numbers are slightly off - but I hear your fine with that.
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Ramiel Wayfarer
2
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Posted - 2014.12.06 21:06:45 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:
Ok I admit I may of been off on the numbers slightly but most got the drift and thanks for your info and figures...
Slightly off? 18 months and 18000 logins. Have some things to sell you in game - my numbers are slightly off - but I hear your fine with that.
The game as been on the decline/in the **** and you and I both know it so stop kidding yourself...Let us hope CCP now start pulling there act together...
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
310
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Posted - 2014.12.07 01:14:38 -
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Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:Ramiel Wayfarer wrote:
Ok I admit I may of been off on the numbers slightly but most got the drift and thanks for your info and figures...
Slightly off? 18 months and 18000 logins. Have some things to sell you in game - my numbers are slightly off - but I hear your fine with that. The game as been on the decline/in the **** and you and I both know it so stop kidding yourself...Let us hope CCP now start pulling there act together...
Concurrent login peaks have stabilised at similar levels to 2008 after peaking either in January 2011 or early 2013 depending on how you interpret the statistics.
I am more a glass half type than a naysayer. I agree the game has been in decline. I disagree that it is "in the ****" or that it is dying.
When I log my Jita alt on and go to buy something and it is not there because the manufacturers have gone, when I attempt to sell plex in game and no one will buy them, then I agree the game will be in the ****.
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Varathius
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2014.12.07 19:20:45 -
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Rosita Renegade wrote:After the last trailer, Just... wow Someone had to say it
Actually eve is dying since 2003. I am sure Socrates would agree here. |
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2014.12.08 15:20:49 -
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The last trailer was just mostly just showing low sec corp activities.
"Someone had to say it"
It gave a false impression to anyone who want's to try out the game, as they would think it like that all the time without the need to train up, and gain experience.
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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2014.12.08 15:21:38 -
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