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Benefactor
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Posted - 2006.09.01 11:12:00 -
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I have a few members of my starship crew that, through a combination of luck and prudence, have survived long enough for me to get to know them better. I often leave my larger starships in dock, and do my more dangerous errands in frigate-sized vessels, if I am doing especially hazardous work.
My first officer, as always, has been a Brutor named Kurg Gesorto. He wasn't remarkable in any particular way when I purchased him, except for the fact that he suprised me with his intelligence, leadership ability, and motivational skills once I informed him that he was no longer a slave (In my experience, freedmen, when treated properly, work a lot harder). Without Commander Gesorto, it's almost certain I'd have had at least one mutiny on board my Prophecy. The last time my generosity and kindness were taken advantage of, I got to see through the ship's internal security systems just how far across the deckplates a Brutor punch can send a Sebiestor mutineer. 
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IzzyChan
True Core
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Posted - 2006.09.01 15:52:00 -
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All my crew members aren't all that talkative, if you know what I mean.  --------------------
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.01 15:57:00 -
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Mine are expendable and tend to get replaced a lot, so i make a habit out of not talking to them. -----
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Ugleb
Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.01 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: IzzyChan All my crew members aren't all that talkative, if you know what I mean. 
I imagine drilling holes in their heads and re-wiring nervous systems would kill the mood somewhat. Damn Sansha.
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IzzyChan
True Core
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Posted - 2006.09.02 00:41:00 -
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Heh. Probably. They have no sense of humor at all. It's almost like talking to a wall  --------------------
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.02 02:12:00 -
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Sadly my crewmembers tend to have very short lifespans.
I do try to pick out the best on each vessel in my fleet regularly and have them transferred to my Imperial Issue vessels where they're less likely to perish, they in turn extend the lifespans of "Rimmug˛gur" and "Balance of Judgement" with their superior competence.
I do wish there was an economically feasible way to save my crew's lives upon ship loss, but while there's no shortage of peasants desperate for their shot at space I don't see that happening.
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Cz Ire
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.09.02 02:25:00 -
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I run a light crew, for the most part. I try my best to get to know every crewman that serves under me.
Engraved in my pod, on a plaque, is the name of every matari warrior that has served under me, with a duplicate plaque in storage, should I get podded.
Every time I loose a vessel, It pains me greatly, and serves to renew my convictions.
--- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir |

Shanaya Venn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.02 04:24:00 -
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Speaking of Brutors, I especially treasure my supercargo, Kerok Morda. He has been with me since the inception of Racing Turtle Enterprises and managed the first Racing Turtle's cargo so well I had to offer him an extended contract. He's been with me for years, and done so much to make my ventures successful I've dealt him in on a share of the profits.
He recently came down with a touch of Gallente Fever (no, not the club-crawling habit, but the virus from, er, certain sexual indulgences), at the same time I had to make a major (and I do mean MAJOR) contract-fulfilling investment-securing run to Tasti in .3 space. The same trip a toad from Euphoria Unleashed trashed the Turtle full of bulky cargo she couldn't possibly schlep away, and podded me into the bargain. (Some around here have heard my recent rant on the topic, I think.)
But my point is: precisely because of that Gallentean disease, Kerok was laid up and *couldn't* accompany me on that particular trip. The rest of the crew was toast along with the Racing Turtle. But my master of cargo...ah. Now he's underway with me once more on the hauling runs, and I and my investment accounts are very glad of it indeed.
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Rjak Teken'duis
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.02 04:36:00 -
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No one crewmember in particular strikes me as being particularly noteable, however I never leave for extended deployments without a decent cook - regretably one of the few things in which the Caldari State lags the Gallente Federation. A good cook does wonders for morale and discipline among the rank and file, and I usually try arrange for the cuisine to reflect the culture around which we are stationed. I say "usually", because when one has sampled what passes for "food" in the Vuorrassi Industrial Zone... well... lets just say that heavy metals are not a significant selling point of their cuisine.
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Michiyo Daishi
Royal Knights of Khanid
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Posted - 2006.09.02 11:36:00 -
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After losing so many cruisers and the crew I worked pains to get to know, it hardens you a lot, and it pains me I could be so harsh and demanding as a captain-capsuleer of my own ship of my own crew.
I take it many others have gone through the same experiences as well. I find it disenheartening to snap at a crewmember for no reason just because I've grown so cold...
Innocence is lost after your first pod loss, it seems -
want a sig like mine? 5m! Woot first, maybe Eris will poke it later - Xorus I¦ll be gentle *WHIPS* that was me being gentle -eris |

Shanaya Venn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Michiyo Daishi After losing so many cruisers and the crew I worked pains to get to know, it hardens you a lot, and it pains me I could be so harsh and demanding as a captain-capsuleer of my own ship of my own crew.
I take it many others have gone through the same experiences as well. I find it disenheartening to snap at a crewmember for no reason just because I've grown so cold...
Life insurance policies. I provide them in over-abundance to every crewperson. Its the least they should be able to look forward to (for their heirs) if they don't win the survival lottery.
I don't mean to sound cold about it - I don't feel I've built an emotional wall, I just recognize that my crew sign on fully (and I do mean *fully*) informed of the high-risk dangers they are undertaking by flying with me. By the same token, I offer to offset that risk to whatever reasonable extent I am able.
I just lost a merlin tonight in a relatively simple Guristas complex. It shouldn't have happened, but there was something wonky with my control alignment (no one to blame, now - that tech crewman perished with the ship) - tried to use thrusters in first engagement phase and everything locked up. Couldn't move, engines wouldn't respond. We were, for those 10 or 20 critical seconds, a sitting duck. That's all it took, while massed barrage missile fire converged on us (aside: does anyone else find the control interfaces of the merlin sometimes lacking in a pinch? Or is it just my crew and the performance tolerances I'm passing as acceptable?!?).
I talk to my crew (am glad, that it's minimal crew in frigates, or even null in something as light as a Bantam). But especially *because* its a small crew, I can't help but get to know them. I can commune with my systems for only so long before I must break out of the zone to ask, say, the gunnery chief, 'how's that loading armature repair job holding up on number 3?', or something equally ice-breakingly relevant to our work and interests.
Doesn't matter that I already know that answer from the rigged systems. Some part of me wants to hear a human talk about it. So we do.
::shrug::
yeah, I miss them when they're gone. I'm glad I can at least support their families after (by making sure the insurance premiums are paid up so they're covered, if worse comes to worst.)
You're right, though. That kind of loss is never easy. And I hope I never get to that jaded place so *many* pilots are in, where crews are invisible or dispensible, and the Whole World Revolves Soley Around the (pseudo-solo) Pilot.
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Ly'sol
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:58:00 -
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savages. Click here for Lysol's Linky Library-last updated 8AUG06 |

Koshmarnaya Akula
Kydance Radiant Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.03 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ly'sol savages.
Very very nice.
You have a great gift. Thank you for sharing.
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Shanaya Venn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ly'sol savages.
Hm.
And am I to take that personally?
Or is your comment in re something aforegoing and not my own remarks? (Your comment appears, unfortunately, immediately after my own...rather humanitarian, I thought...observations.)
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Kaleigh Doyle
Rho Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.09.03 17:26:00 -
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I never play favorites with my crew. They are all essential to me when I'm in space.
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Socretes Romanesque
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:52:00 -
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I know I have a favorite in my Crew aboard the "Redemption" a Frigate Class Tristan.
His name is Nightus, I found him in a catina aboard the Moon Four Caldari Navy Assembly Plant. He has saved my neck a few times with his skill with the Turrents. --
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Laocoon
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:54:00 -
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My crew die. All the time. Unfortunately. So I don't try and form bonds with them.
- Lao
Veto. Corp |

Socretes Romanesque
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.04 02:32:00 -
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Then again, I invest in mindscan implants for my Crew. --
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Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.09.04 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Mine are expendable and tend to get replaced a lot, so i make a habit out of not talking to them.
Indeed. Crew is crew. I don't put them into unecessary risks, but they have a job to do just like I do.
That's all there is to it.
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Socretes Romanesque
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.04 02:46:00 -
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Personally Im Frig Specialized so I have only a few crew. I like to think that my ship is like a small corp. The only way to get the most out of it is to invest in it. Not only in Mods and Implants, but the crew of your ship is who your gonna be stuck with in the middle of 0.0. I rather invest and get to know them so they are loyal. --
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Khaldur
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.09.05 17:55:00 -
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The crewmember I care about most is my trusted Slaver Hound. Always a loyal friend and does a very good job in keeping the slaves motivated.
The ship and the slaves are easily replaced. But training a new Slaver Hound is a long and difficult process before it is of any use on a ship. You don't want to risk loosing half of your crew in mid-flight because your young Slaver got overexcited in it's motivational job.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:04:00 -
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Every crewmember I recruit is fully insured to ensure that his next of kin recieve a substantial payout in the event of his demise.
I also never recruit female personnel to serve aboard any craft I command.
A woman who has not made the choice to become an egger, should never have to be exposed to the harsh reality of such a violent way of life in order to make a living. There are far more elegant opportunities for employment.
I do have several long standing members of crew that come to mind, three Matari and two Caldari, however revealing names when in my profession may prove troublesome for their stationside relatives.
I find that Caldari crewmembers are dilligant and devoted to their duties as well as being excellently skilled and technically minded. Matari, particularly Brutor, have a good mechanical understanding, are typically well trained and posses the physical prowess to get the job done.
I always pay well, providing whatever loyal members need to keep themselves comfortable.
Keeping your crew happy is the key to a well organised and operated vessel.
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Koshmarnaya Akula
Kydance Radiant Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Verone Every crewmember I recruit is fully insured to ensure that his next of kin recieve a substantial payout in the event of his demise.
I also never recruit female personnel to serve aboard any craft I command.
A woman who has not made the choice to become an egger, should never have to be exposed to the harsh reality of such a violent way of life in order to make a living. There are far more elegant opportunities for employment.
I do have several long standing members of crew that come to mind, three Matari and two Caldari, however revealing names when in my profession may prove troublesome for their stationside relatives.
I find that Caldari crewmembers are dilligant and devoted to their duties as well as being excellently skilled and technically minded. Matari, particularly Brutor, have a good mechanical understanding, are typically well trained and posses the physical prowess to get the job done.
I always pay well, providing whatever loyal members need to keep themselves comfortable.
Keeping your crew happy is the key to a well organised and operated vessel.
Good God. I'm agreeing more and more with what he says.
Say something foolish again so I can despise you and your ways again..

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Shanaya Venn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Verone I also never recruit female personnel to serve aboard any craft I command.
A woman who has not made the choice to become an egger, should never have to be exposed to the harsh reality of such a violent way of life in order to make a living. There are far more elegant opportunities for employment.
Gender-biased foolishness.
My crew is predominantly female. They have more stamina than men, pay much better attention to detail, and don't take their positions for granted the way I've seen certain male pace dogs do.
Women who work the spaceways aren't there because they "have" to be. So they are "exposed" to harsh realities? So what. That's their choice. Every crewwoman I know would much rather be on board a ship, with all its constraints and dangers, than rotting at a station or or languishing dirtside.
Anyone with half a brain would.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Shanaya Venn
Gender-biased foolishness.
My crew is predominantly female. They have more stamina than men, pay much better attention to detail, and don't take their positions for granted the way I've seen certain male pace dogs do.
Women who work the spaceways aren't there because they "have" to be. So they are "exposed" to harsh realities? So what. That's their choice. Every crewwoman I know would much rather be on board a ship, with all its constraints and dangers, than rotting at a station or or languishing dirtside.
Anyone with half a brain would.
Biased? Hardly.
I simply have no wish to put the life of an innocent woman in my own hands. An capsuleer, who chooses to accept the danger of commanding a vessel, yes.
A crew member who is under command and has no direct say in her destiny throughout the course of a battle, no.
If a woman dislikes this, then she can Encrew somewhere else. A pirate I may be, but a monster I am not.
My principles are my own.
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:15:00 -
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those who die with a smile on their face knowing they will be with Him as they die for Him.
Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
My sig is blue not pink although i can't argue with the slave part - Xorus wth whats this blue stuff all of a sudden? Did I miss a mail? -eris Bwahahahaha!11 Immy was here
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Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 05/09/2006 21:46:22
Originally by: Shanaya Venn Gender-biased foolishness.
Yeah, you went for a lot of that too, actually.
Verone has reasons for his choice that I feel are un-motivated, but if a lack of women on his ships make him feel more secure in performing his job, then that's what he should do.
He's got a job to do, after all...
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Hori To
Minmatar Rifter Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: Hori To on 06/09/2006 00:13:33 I used to talk to my crew, do stuff for them at stations (throw parties), bring luxury goods for their use on trips and so forth, everything was fine and dandy. But then my world got shattered by a pirate, so I repurchase and rehire, and loose that ship too After about 20 ship losses and around 15 poddings, well. The more ships I loose, the more careless and jaded I become. Thank god for mind altering chemical substances.
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Shanaya Venn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.06 01:55:00 -
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Edited by: Shanaya Venn on 06/09/2006 01:55:54
Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Originally by: Shanaya Venn Gender-biased foolishness.
Yeah, you went for a lot of that too, actually.
Not really. "Preference for" is not equivalent to "bias against," especially when 'preference' is qualified, and predicated on specific and measurable performance factors.
All Verone had to offer to support his bias against, was a vague sensibility about what women "should be" exposed to. That is clearly a framework based on pre-set gender roles and cultural "sensibilities", not related to factual issues about capabilities or performance.
It's the same kind of prejudice-protecting pablum I hear from Amarrians who go on about how Minmatar "ought to" accomodate their "natural slave state". Key words being things like "ought", "should", and "supposed to be." These all speak to personal judgement, not factual basis for determination or evaluation.
In my case, I'm clear about my preferences. I'm also clear that I'll hire any man with stamina, attention to detail, and work-focus dedication equivalent to any female in my crew. That doesn't speak to bias against a gender, but to a requirement of (my-ship-specific) performance standards.
Quote: Verone has reasons for his choice that I feel are un-motivated, but if a lack of women on his ships make him feel more secure in performing his job, then that's what he should do.
By all means. We all have reasons for our choices. My issue is with the framing (or justification) of "no women" as a requirement because "they shouldn't be exposed" to xyz. There's that pesky word, "shouldn't." Comes back to the role issue again.
But then, that's why the Gallente lag so far behind the Caldari in terms of industrial capability. They are busy framing how 'ladies' "should" behave; they don't get the buckle-down-to-it-tiveness that any Caldari (irrespective of gender) can muster, and thus fail to utilize the skills of half their potential workforce to maximum capacity.
When was the last time *you* saw a female Gallente running a heavy cargo loader port-side? *I* sure can't recall a time. Now that's just a waste of resources.
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Koshmarnaya Akula
Kydance Radiant Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.06 03:17:00 -
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Here I am a monster, yet I am not a pirate....
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