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Captain Haldir	Posted - 2006.09.01 12:57:00 - [1] Caldari is the most underpowered race in game! This is because of their ships masses, inertia and drone bay. And T2 javelin torpedoes anti-bonus makes ship speed even worse. Drone bay is TOO small! I can't even fit 5 heavy drones on my raven! So please increase Raven and Scorpion drone bay to 100. Thank you for advance.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:00:00 - [2] The last thing that the Raven needs is a boost. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Commander Morgoth Caldari Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:00:00 - [3] Yes, i have to agree. Lets hope Rokh will have bigger dronebay.
cinderbrood	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:01:00 - [4] Or maby consider that caldari are not drone specialists if drones are that big a problem to you train gallente ships personally ive et to find a drone that a Smart bomb wont kill while missiles take the owner ;) And im a carebear so is not that hard to adapt >.> My spelling is an unbreakable encription algorithm, millions have tried to decypher it, but all have failed. It has no plain text or password, but only cyphertext. It's strength is so good, that
Redwolf Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:07:00 - [5] mmmm, no. Originally by: HippoKing Who cares if the game is coming up. Forums are back \o/
Kamikaaazi	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:08:00 - [6] caldari has too much gimed ships. CPP needs to start taking care of their biggest populations much better!!! Im sick of flying bricks that they call ships!
Admiral Starbuck Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:10:00 - [7] The reason why caldari ships should be better is that Caldari is the best race in game! Minmatars have worst looking ships, because they were slaves. Ammarrians are religious lunatics. Gallenteans are peaceful democratic trader faction who don't need to get any combat bonus.
Norris Neophitus Minmatar Hidden Agenda	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:12:00 - [8] ROFLOL Good one caldari so need a boost and the raven is drastically underpowered lol Originally by: Wild Rho -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not emo, I just hate my life and no one understands me -----------------------------
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:16:00 - [9] Well, to be honest, caldari do have a couple of issues. The mass is totally borked, the moa and eagle each need one more turret. As for javelin torps, they are possibly the most overpowered thing about caldari. So yeah, boost! Hey that sig reminds me of my tempest - Xorus
Magnus Thermopyle Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:16:00 - [10] So lets see: Question: What is the best ship for PvE? Answer: Raven Q: What is the best interceptor? A: Crow Q: What will the best battleship be for long range fleet battles? A: Rohk Q: What is the overall best battleship for fleet battles today? A: Scorpion Q: What is the best battleship for 1-on-1 and close range encounters? A: Raven with armor tank, jammers and torps. Q: What ships races where most used in the EVE tournament? A: Caldari Q: Whats the most expensive HAC? A: Cerberus I rest my case!
CaptianBlack Minmatar R0NIN.	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:17:00 - [11] Originally by: Admiral Starbuck The reason why caldari ships should be better is that Caldari is the best race in game! Minmatars have worst looking ships, because they were slaves. Ammarrians are religious lunatics. Gallenteans are peaceful democratic trader faction who don't need to get any combat bonus. we may have the worst ships... but were the best looking :P ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/capblak.htm
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:22:00 - [12] Nerf missles plz kthxbye ----------
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle So lets see: Question: What is the best ship for PvE? Answer: Raven Agree Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Q: What is the best interceptor? A: Crow Well, anti-ceptor, crow wins. Anti-other stuff, I'd say ranis. Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Q: What will the best battleship be for long range fleet battles? A: Rohk I wouldn't count on it. All the other tier3s will outdamage it (well, the megathron will for gallente, hyperion won't be a fleet ship). Range isn't the only factor. Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Q: What is the overall best battleship for fleet battles today? A: Scorpion Totally disagree. Imagine a fleet of scorps versus a fleet of geddons, tempests and megathrons. It wouldn't be pretty. Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Q: What is the best battleship for 1-on-1 and close range encounters? A: Raven with armor tank, jammers and torps. Your opinion. I disagree again. It doesn't have enough grid to run a decent armor tank and torps. It does fairly pathetic (by comparsion to mega/pest/geddon) DPS with no damage mods. It doesn't have enough mids to run a decent tackle setup with enough ECM to make it's poor tank hold up. It isn't fast/agile enough to control range and prevent it's target escaping. Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Q: What ships races where most used in the EVE tournament? A: Caldari You mean a tournament where the other midslot modules (EW and tackling) were no long needed, so shield tanks became uber? OH GOD NO I NEVER SAW THAT ONE COMING! Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Q: Whats the most expensive HAC? A: Cerberus Vagabond you muppet. Check your facts before trolling. Hey that sig reminds me of my tempest - Xorus
Nihn Lemai	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:24:00 - [14] Come on already, its clearly a joke thread! --- I want instas gone... now
Chronus26 Gallente Dark Blood Contracts	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:26:00 - [15] I have the answer: #1 Delete all race ships besides caldari. #2 Copy caldari ships into slots left by deletion of other races. Voila! Perfectly balanced races! ----- Move along, nothign to see here...
Gee'Kin Tha Specialz	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:28:00 - [16] Edited by: Gee''Kin on 01/09/2006 13:28:29 plz un-ugly caldari ship design and graphics. Oh and put more visible plates on minnie ships. --------------------------------------------> Plz tickle my brain. I wanna have a Brainfart ! -------------------------------------------->
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:32:00 - [17] Please burn at the stake all Caldari infidels !! Then CCP need to claim jihad on there asses ! I will not rest untill NPC Titans are Doomsdaying the ** out of noobs in ibis's in Kisogo damn it !! Alliaanna** I'm being half serious, I hate you Caldari scum ! DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Tao Han Caldari Crucial Electronics	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:00:00 - [18] This thread is most entertaining, Caldari definetly doesnt need a boost in anyway. They are slow, longrange fighters with a fetish for pointy sticks. Now you want to make them good with drones and faster ships, why not make them cap and armor kings aswell so we dont have to fly anything but Caldari. The only negative thing I've found with caldari is that they have pretty dull ships.
Spanker	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:04:00 - [19] yaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwn feeds trolls - Shpank
Cletus Graeme Caldari Mordu's Elite	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:11:00 - [20] Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle ...factually incorrect post... ...factually correct reply to post... pwned !
Cletus Graeme Caldari Mordu's Elite	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Verus Potestas Well, to be honest, caldari do have a couple of issues. The mass is totally borked, the moa and eagle each need one more turret. /signed Nice to see ppl are aware of the real problems with caldari ships
Gee'Kin Tha Specialz	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:17:00 - [22] Originally by: Cletus Graeme Originally by: Verus Potestas Well, to be honest, caldari do have a couple of issues. The mass is totally borked, the moa and eagle each need one more turret. /signed Nice to see ppl are aware of the real problems with caldari ships /signed. We need just that little one turret slot more --------------------------------------------> Plz tickle my brain. I wanna have a Brainfart ! -------------------------------------------->
Abbrock Armarda Amarr Puppets on Steroids iPOD Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:20:00 - [23] hmm ferox is about the best BC and ravens kick ass in an enducrance fight it's like every other race each has a style you need to find
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:28:00 - [24] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Please burn at the stake all Caldari infidels !! Then CCP need to claim jihad on there asses ! I will not rest untill NPC Titans are Doomsdaying the ** out of noobs in ibis's in Kisogo damn it !! Alliaanna** I'm being half serious, I hate you Caldari scum ! /signed Ore Mongers' 3rd lotto Ebil piwat - Xorus
Philip Sterling GALAXIAN Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:36:00 - [25] I get so sick of seeing all these "un-nerf my race" threads. there are a lot of differences in the ships of the 4 races, and you just have to fly them differently. in general, all 4 races are actually pretty well balanced. Sure, there are a few exceptions, but no one race is better or worse overall. Caldari ships are slower and have crummy drone bays, but they make up for it by having tons of cpu and midslots galore. If you want a quicker ship with a good drone bay, train Gallente, but don't plan on fitting your thorax with 4 target jammers.
Chewan Mesa Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:46:00 - [26] Edited by: Chewan Mesa on 01/09/2006 14:46:55 Originally by: Philip Sterling I get so sick of seeing all these "un-nerf my race" threads. there are a lot of differences in the ships of the 4 races, and you just have to fly them differently. in general, all 4 races are actually pretty well balanced. Sure, there are a few exceptions, but no one race is better or worse overall. Caldari ships are slower and have crummy drone bays, but they make up for it by having tons of cpu and midslots galore. If you want a quicker ship with a good drone bay, train Gallente, but don't plan on fitting your thorax with 4 target jammers. Gotta agree here overall.
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:52:00 - [27] If you seriously don't understand that the Raptor, Merlin, Moa, Eagle, Ferox, and Vulture are borked (and no, the Ferox being good for AFK kill missions doesn't mean it's a good ship) then you need to rethink the way you understand Caldari ships. Just because the Raven is good doesn't mean Caldari are universally overpowered. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
MOS DEF Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:53:00 - [28] I really really hope this is a jokethread.
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:53:00 - [29] Oh, and don't even start whining about the Rokh, until the targetting range cap is raised high enough that the Rokh actually uses its optimal bonus to outrange other ships, it's not even at an advantage. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:54:00 - [30] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari If you seriously don't understand that the Raptor, Merlin, Moa, Eagle, Ferox, and Vulture are borked (and no, the Ferox being good for AFK kill missions doesn't mean it's a good ship) then you need to rethink the way you understand Caldari ships. Just because the Raven is good doesn't mean Caldari are universally overpowered. The ferox is a good ship. It's just not a rail ship As for the vulture, it does what it needs to do. Signature removed - please email to find out why (include a link to the original image) - Jacques([email protected])
Antodias Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:57:00 - [31] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari If you seriously don't understand that the Raptor, Merlin, Moa, Eagle, Ferox, and Vulture are borked (and no, the Ferox being good for AFK kill missions doesn't mean it's a good ship) then you need to rethink the way you understand Caldari ships. Just because the Raven is good doesn't mean Caldari are universally overpowered. As long as you're not suggesting that Caldari are underpowered. Every other race has about as many ships, if not more that need love. P.S. Boost Domi!
Cilppiz FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.01 15:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Q: Whats the most expensive HAC? A: Cerberus Vagabond you muppet. Check your facts before trolling. Actually Cerberus tends to be the most expensive HAC in most regions. And to be honest you are wrong with Raven not being godly 1vs1 I-win-boat, where do you even need tank if you keep your target jammed all the time. una salus victis nullam sperare salutem
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.01 15:54:00 - [33] Originally by: Verus Potestas The ferox is a good ship. It's just not a rail ship So...you're saying a ship with all unbonused weapons is a "good ship"? Whereas the other ships in its class have six bonused weapons, seven bonused weapons, and five bonused weapons with three more unbonused, respectively? Uhhh, what exactly do you base this claim on? Originally by: Antodias As long as you're not suggesting that Caldari are underpowered. I'm not saying that Caldari is underpowered, I'm just saying that Caldari has some SERIOUS problems, and it shouldn't just be written off as universally overpowered and therefore undeserving of any dev attention. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Zaethiel	Posted - 2006.09.01 16:48:00 - [34] Originally by: Verus Potestas[quote=Verus Potestas[quote=Magnus Thermopyle Q: What will the best battleship be for long range fleet battles? A: Rohk I wouldn't count on it. All the other tier3s will outdamage it (well, the megathron will for gallente, hyperion won't be a fleet ship). Range isn't the only factor. lol, the only other factor is how many highslots it has. If i can fit tech 1 iridium in a Rohk and hit as far as a completely tech 2 BS then happy days are coming. Or if we do a gang of 20 Rohks and outrange everything then its gonna be pretty one sided. In Fleet the only thing that really matters is range. All the opponents do is try to outrange you so you cant shoot them.
Razor Jaxx Blind Vengeance	Posted - 2006.09.01 17:15:00 - [35] Originally by: Captain Haldir Caldari is the most underpowered race in game! This is because of their ships masses, inertia and drone bay. And T2 javelin torpedoes anti-bonus makes ship speed even worse. Drone bay is TOO small! I can't even fit 5 heavy drones on my raven! So please increase Raven and Scorpion drone bay to 100. Thank you for advance. Hell yeah WTF @ CCP !?! Make Caldari ships faster and more agile than Matari, give them as many low slots as Amarrian, and give them bigger drone bays than the Gallente !! - [ BL1ND killboard ]
Kays Shannon	Posted - 2006.09.01 17:20:00 - [36] OMG, not another one of these posts!! If you don't like cal ships, train for something else. There are people who would say that cal ships are overpowered. All depends on your point of veiw.
Treitei	Posted - 2006.09.01 17:23:00 - [37] Originally by: Captain Haldir Caldari is the most underpowered race in game! This is because of their ships masses, inertia and drone bay. And T2 javelin torpedoes anti-bonus makes ship speed even worse. Drone bay is TOO small! I can't even fit 5 heavy drones on my raven! So please increase Raven and Scorpion drone bay to 100. Thank you for advance. LOL You bastard, you made me swallow my bubble gum
Auldare S.A.S	Posted - 2006.09.01 17:25:00 - [38] Caldari is all about electronics and function over comfort. what would be nice is seeing them back as the lightest class of ships in game but tweak their agility to they are as agile as gallente (raven turns and warps the same length of time as the mega), make them a tad slower so they got the same speed as comparable ships of amarr/gallente when using an afterburner etc. slowest ships in game yes, but more efficient warping and overall lighter than any other ships in similar class would fit in right. i always found it wierd caldari had a lower scan res than all other races, but in terms of balance it makes sense. minmatar should be the quick lock heavt alpha ================================================
Noriath	Posted - 2006.09.01 17:26:00 - [39] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Oh, and don't even start whining about the Rokh, until the targetting range cap is raised high enough that the Rokh actually uses its optimal bonus to outrange other ships, it's not even at an advantage. I don't think it's supposed to outrange other ships in that regard, because it would be totally overpowered the way that longer range range pwns all right now, it's just supposed to allow every damn Caldari noob to jump into a tech 2 fleetbattle with 500k skillpoints in guns...
Imran Blind Vengeance	Posted - 2006.09.01 17:36:00 - [40] Edited by: Imran on 01/09/2006 17:36:08 I think you should hit yourself in the face with your keyboard for this retarded thread. EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful Ch33z0rs: Pirating is such a harsh term. I prefer unil
fairimear Gallente S.A.S	Posted - 2006.09.01 17:37:00 - [41] these threads make me LOL, the ideas are funny to start with but the trolling is just key to making it hilarious. Makeing your npc hunters SS.
mallina Caldari Turbulent	Posted - 2006.09.01 18:47:00 - [42] why should a raven be able to use 5 heavydrones? I want my Geddon to be able to use 8 Megapulse II and an injector and dual rep tank, plus having room for MWD, tackling gear and 3 heatsinks- in fact, i want it to have a damage bonus ASWELL as a ROF bonus on top of all that too. you dont see me complaining :/ the only downfall to the Raven is that it can't really tackle with a tank - but considering the torps work at extreme distances and transversal is meaningless i dont see what you're really upset about. A well skilled t2 torp raven does so much damage its silly, as if being able to choose their damage type wasnt enough... ----------- <3 Turbulance
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.01 19:22:00 - [43] The reason why the Cerberus is the most expensive is because the most pilots want/can fly it and that it's a good PvE ship, coupled with the 'now to be gone lotery system', nothing else. Some Caldari ships are really weak (Moa and Eagle spring to mind) but what is really due is an agility un-nerfing before anything else. ____________________ Darko1107 > does anything in ascn space have tech II fittings? Quillan Rage > Iron ships
Imran Blind Vengeance	Posted - 2006.09.01 19:42:00 - [44] Originally by: Imran Edited by: Imran on 01/09/2006 17:36:08 I think you should hit yourself in the face with your keyboard for this retarded thread. EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful Ch33z0rs: Pirating is such a harsh term. I prefer unil

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