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        |  PotatoOverdose
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       | Posted - 2014.12.03 21:55:10 -
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 Good riddance.
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        |  PotatoOverdose
 Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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       | Posted - 2014.12.05 01:34:54 -
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 Lucas Kell wrote:... reduce effectiveness of one man fleets, which simply isn't being done to a large enough degree with this change to make a noticeable impact. That's just, like, your opinion, man.
 
 Personally, I think piloting 7 bombers, a dictor, and a prober all at the same time will be notably more difficult come January 1.
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        |  PotatoOverdose
 Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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       | Posted - 2014.12.05 01:43:40 -
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 James Baboli wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:... reduce effectiveness of one man fleets, which simply isn't being done to a large enough degree with this change to make a noticeable impact. That's just, like, your opinion, man. Personally, I think piloting 7 bombers, a dictor, and a prober all at the same time will be notably more difficult come January 1.   It becomes massively more annoying to set up...a higher barrier to entry and risk of pilot error. Sounds good, just what the doctor ordered.
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        |  PotatoOverdose
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       | Posted - 2014.12.05 01:50:51 -
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 James Baboli wrote:There are other ways of reducing the major issues with boxing which have substantially less spill over, and are good for balance overall.
 
 Still not in favor of this sort of ban, and even more so the use of the word "multiplexing" in regards to input, as this would imply that playing EVE with a keyboard for each hand that is connected to the same single toon is banned.
 Honestly, I see all of the so called "spillover" as a net positive.
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        |  PotatoOverdose
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       | Posted - 2014.12.05 01:56:20 -
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 James Baboli wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:James Baboli wrote:There are other ways of reducing the major issues with boxing which have substantially less spill over, and are good for balance overall.
 
 Still not in favor of this sort of ban, and even more so the use of the word "multiplexing" in regards to input, as this would imply that playing EVE with a keyboard for each hand that is connected to the same single toon is banned.
 Honestly, I see all of the so called "spillover" as a net positive. I see the spillover as unfortunate, as this has ripped the guts out of my main source of income, and having people coming in behind without the tools I used to get where I am means that much of the profit rate I have observed is impossible, or requires the sort of market playing genius that would make you rich in the RL stock market. This is the part I find unfortunate. So....isboxed mining or isboxed incursions?
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        |  PotatoOverdose
 Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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       | Posted - 2014.12.05 02:11:17 -
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 James Baboli wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:So....isboxed mining or isboxed incursions?
 Incursions, at a scale which isn't feasible without at least some level of broadcasting. See...incursions were never intended as an iskfarm for isboxers though. And in place of 1 multiboxing player receiving content, 12 singleboxing players might receive said content. Objectively, that's a win for the eve community as a whole.
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        |  PotatoOverdose
 Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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       | Posted - 2014.12.05 02:28:54 -
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 James Baboli wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:See...incursions were never intended as an iskfarm for isboxers though. And in place of 1 multiboxing player receiving content, 12 singleboxing players might receive said content. Objectively, that's a win for the eve community as a whole.
 Which is part of why I never ran my boxes in highsec, but kept to the less congested lowsec incursions. The added isk/hr when not engaged in PVP was nice too. That actually sounds pretty reasonable, so perhaps there are one or two negative side effects. On the whole though, this is still a good change, I think.
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        |  PotatoOverdose
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       | Posted - 2014.12.05 17:56:23 -
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 Lucas Kell wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:... reduce effectiveness of one man fleets, which simply isn't being done to a large enough degree with this change to make a noticeable impact. That's just, like, your opinion, man. Personally, I think piloting 7 bombers, a dictor, and a prober all at the same time will be notably more difficult come January 1.   The prober and interdictor are irrelevant, since even with broadcasting they will be controlled separately. The only affect will be to bombers. Warping in and out will still be fleet warp, which means the only change is firing your bombs at the target which can be done round robin. If you read what the multiboxers that actually do this are saying, they don't feel they'll be impacted at all. So....all of isboxer banned by sometime 2015? That's probably whats going to happen if ccp realizes that the multiboxing community is getting around the "spirit of the law," as it were.
 
 Other than that, alt-tabbing multiple bombers in a coordinated bombing run without external software doesn't work particularly well, I've tried. If isboxer get's reduced to that level of effectiveness, I have no problem with it.
 
 So yeah, good changes overall. If more are needed, I'm sure ccp will continue along the proper path.
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        |  PotatoOverdose
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       | Posted - 2015.05.14 01:40:27 -
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 So many isboxing miners (and other bear sub-species) in this thread, all pining for their lost revenue stream. Excellent.
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