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Prisoner11213
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:30:07 -
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Ehm did someoen watch the plex prices ?? They are kind of droping fast .... ? Does that have anything to do whit this ?
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Prisoner11213
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:34:25 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:It seems PLEX have dropped by 50m since this thread went up. I can't complain about that. Mr Epeen 
Let them fall LET THEM FALL AND BE BURN AWAY.
Got my money rdy to buy some when they are rising again cant wait !! |
Prisoner11213
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:23:52 -
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Revman Zim wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote:virm pasuul wrote:
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From your post it's difficult to work out which side of the fence you sit on.
You start off seeming to critcize the change.
You then go on to make a load of points illustrating why the change is a good thing for Eve.
Could you clarify please?
I'm personally against the change completely. I'm more annoyed at the lack of talk from CCP to the multibox community to see if a compromise could be reached (see: jump drives, bombers, nearly every other change) because I don't believe the current CSM has any multiboxers on it. I would have been willing to accept a ban on using ISBoxer to PVP with the exceptions involving defending oneself from invading forces in a WH / Null site, but CCP doesn't care. Why would CCP engage in dialog with cheaters and EULA violaters? Their point of view is irrelevant since their actions harm the game. Kinda like trying to compromise with a pedophile.
I kind of like it how u set one thing clr
Software Multiboxer = Pedophile
back to topic
CCP-¦s GM (depend wich one u ask german or english one) said once it is allowed and it isnt. Look the forum for the GM-¦s post. Some ppl reported themself " Hi im using isboxer and do X, is that a eula break or not ?" Most of the time the answer for those PPL was it isnt either allowed or forbidden. Legal limbo i would say. They dint cheat or break the eula. They used a tool what they either payed for or programmed themself. What u could aslo have done.
I would have liked if CCP would have talked to the PPL. Start a diskussion to explain stuff. For myself i dont see only the bad side of Multiboxing.
Some good sides are Incursion runners who multibox some boxes so that they can at least start the Fleet and the opposide of it are the Solo SoftwareMultiboxer who do theyr own Incursion Fleets. Same whit mining good part: more minerals, cheaper ships. Bad part solo miners isk/h is less much less.
In Apocrypta (or sooner or later) CCP banned China and the isk farmers. U can look the Market Price for now but lets say i payed only 50 mill for one hull. Something like that is going to happen soon too.
I think CCP should make some exceptions in the rule. " We dont want PPL to Software Multibox in PVP but the PVE part doesnt matter " or something like that. FInding the Middle solution for all, thats the hard part.
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Prisoner11213
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:20:38 -
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Maneila Bekas wrote:
Now imagine, there is no plex anymore ? Sure it is TIME you invest to get that isk and buy that plex...but i would love to see a restriction like "EVERY ACCOUNT HAS THE OPTION TO GAIN MAX. 11 MONTHS PER YEAR SUBSCRIPTION BY USING PLEX"
Which means, CCP gets ONCE a year, some EURO for every active account (sure with 3 toons running). Or even "smaller"...Every 5 Accounts with 15Toons max. NEED TO PAY A annual FEE of 20$/20Gé¼. The Rest can be paid by Plex. And yes, you get 5 PLEX (well 5 month sub.) for that 20Gé¼/$. So only need to plex 11months.
Why i am talking about "giving your real life Money to ccp ?"
Now IMAGINE please, and NO ( i dont work for CCP but i know how companies run and what CAN be done ), JUST IMAGINE...what CCP could OFFER us,...the Players, when having the Access to more REAL MONEY ?
I did short the quote becuase u repeat yourself there a bit, dint wana post a long treath again XD
You do know that if u buy a PLEX from CCP to sell it ingame u pay 20 bucks ? A normal 1 moth subscription 15 bucks.
So ppl should buy more plex thats more money for CCP. Ok i dint count in the 3/6/12 month subscription where the price is lower. My point is that every PLEX in game costs more then a normal subscription.
Keep in mind every plex is money that
NOT YOU <---( btw thats how u use caps dont overturn it)
but someone else put money into the game.
CCP knows that and are risking some money. But i do support the change. |
Prisoner11213
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Posted - 2014.11.28 08:41:19 -
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Deck Cadelanne wrote:What a thread.
1 player using ISBox or some other technology gives 1 command input to multiple characters at the same time. This is what is explicitly no longer allowed and is a bannable offence.
That's pretty clear and concise. No reason for confusion there.
This is not the same as:
1 player alt-tabs between characters on the same PC giving the same command repeatedly but manually each time. OK. Makes it hard to control more than a few characters at any given time. Takes longer to get all the characters acting. Perfectly legal, no automation or multiplexing of the commands there. Hell, you could even use a KVM switch to go from one computer to the next...same deal. Because in each instance you have to input the command to each character manually.
It is also not the same as:
20 players controlling one character each working together in a fleet doing something. That's called teamwork...or multiplayer...or something...
But apparently a lot of the people playing this game are not capable of differentiating. That baffles me.
Maybe a lot of people are actually just mad over this change and are going all emo rage claiming they are either a) going to quit or b) going to flaunt the rule deliberately. When the rule gets enforced they will rage and gnash their teeth and rant against the injustice of it all.
Seriously, this is a video game. This change has obviously been made for a reason. The vast majority of feedback suggests for good reason. CCP and many players obviously expect it to improve the overall health of the game. So if this honestly ruins the game for you and renders you unable to play it and enjoy it...go do something else that makes you happy!
I agree to you the change was made for a reason but it doesnt change a thing for multiboxers.
Example what one multiboxer linked me the last time i confronted him whit that : http://isboxer.com/wiki/Round-robin
Only meaning that they have an delay by now ? Im not even sure why miners whit less then 10 boxes are complaining becuase only the undock and the first actiavation of the lasers will be multicastet the rest will be done whit VIdeo FX. |
Prisoner11213
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Posted - 2014.11.28 09:26:44 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Prisoner11213 wrote:I agree to you the change was made for a reason but it doesnt change a thing for multiboxers. Example what one multiboxer linked me the last time i confronted him whit that : http://isboxer.com/wiki/Round-robin
Only meaning that they have an delay by now ? Im not even sure why miners whit less then 10 boxes are complaining becuase only the undock and the first actiavation of the lasers will be multicastet the rest will be done whit VIdeo FX. if you want to resort to the they-cant-catch-me narrative, go ahead. I'm sure they can and they will, regardless of your attempts to hide or obfuscate your illegal tools.
Thats the point ! The tool itself it isnt banned and its not a multiplexing command. Every Command its done by the player so each weapon activation is a input for the person itself and its not breaking the new rule.
Remember :
"Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing refer to the multiplication of inputs, actions and events to multiple instances of the game."
It is not broadcasting u are chaning windows whit a button and giving out an command.
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