Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing of actions with consequences in the EVE universe, are prohibited and will be policed in the same manner as Input Automation.

This includes, but isnGÇÖt limited to:

GÇóActivation and control of ships and modules
GÇóNavigation and movement within the EVE universe
GÇóMovement of assets and items within the EVE universe
GÇóInteraction with other characters

You know the more I think about the solutions or look at other peoples idea how to get around this newly imposed limitation I think the end result is your going to have a tremendously hard time differentiating between people who are using input duplication vs those people using hot keys, clickbars / menu bars or round robin.

In fact if someone had time to make a quick video or link something already done I think we have a good chance in the next month + to get ccp to change their mind.

If I setup a round Robin keymap that on every press hits "f1" I could smash that key extremely quickly, sending the f1 command to 20 clients in no time. People with logitech or similar keyboards will probably end up setting up an auto repeat in the logitech software to save them the hassle.

Using click bars, menus or vfx could accomplish the same task, yes you have to click a button each time but that's pretty fast if you line all the buttons up close together.

Now all that aside, I have a hard time believing that in every single case people are going to stop using broadcasting all together. The honest ones will do their best to create workarounds and in most cases it will be very easy to do, the only time it will be tougher is targeting or jumping through gates and I'm pretty sure that using round Robin key maps we can do that in a second flat for dozens of clients.

All you've accomplished is less then an hour of setup to get around this really ignorant rule.
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I'm hitting the media circuit pretty heavy these few weeks to discuss how incredibly short sighted ccp is being with all this.

Multi boxing won't be killed, slippery slope argument Is a logical fallacy. This is like saying that by banning bottign scripts no one will mine. Any work arounds that duplicatce clicks are eula violations. but ill leave that up to ccp.

check the EULA quote I bolded.
Using keystrokes for accelerated gameplay is violation of EULA on its own.

While I understand why this is being done and the effect on PvP game play can be a negative one,

As a disabled gamer who runs PvE missions can not quickly swap tabs, the avvailability of broadcasting instructions between my alts using ISboxer is the only way I can multibox my missions or travel through systems easily, especially with the longer distances involved with the new burner missions

Please keep in mind this tool just makes life a little bit easier for people like me when making a final decission on this issue ty

However, fleet warp isn't using third party software to do so.

It's not food for thought at all. It's a disingenuous attempt to derail this.

do we have alliance wide bm's? (not a troll don't actual know)

OK for all the STUPID people here, ISBOXER isnt band, some of its functions are.

If your using it to log on your toons to mine with etc and use each account separately then you are fine, if you log on your toons, form a gang and go kill **** using one key stroke, you get BANNED.

Easy isnt stupid people

Bli

Let's take the games one at a time.

Really? There is a reason that Lax removed Guild Wars 2 from the list of games that ISBoxer supports. He doesn't want to support the use of ISBoxer in any game where using it would violate the games EULA/ToS. Using mulitboxing software was fine for the first few months, then ArenaNet cracked down.

I only mentioned LotRO and SW:TOR because 1) I was curious if those were actually the games you were referencing, and 2) Your claims that they have 10 times the subscriptions that EVE has, is silly.

As for WoW, you were claiming that CCP should act just like Blizzard. That would include not talking to ISBoxer users and doing what they please, no matter how much it inconveniences ISBoxer users? Because you claim that the input broadcast ban is just an inconvenience, which would make it just like Blizzard removing the /follow command.

To be fair, you being an unaffected multiboxer means nothing is changing for *some* multiboxers.

Comming back from ccp visit in iceland ee have seen how they handle the detection and follow up on boxer use. I can asure hou its very carefull and i was amazed at the detials and insight. I cant tell what and so ofc, to breach my non dosclosure.

I run 3 accounts on eve as its my passion, the g+ñme atracts me, the blocking of this hardly compairs too the jita riots and moncole gate, where a underlying mentality in ccp was the cause, taking cate of multiboxing as unfair advantage is somthing which the 99 procent of gamers agree with and which keeps them playing eve.

Each time changes come poeple will whine and *****, which doesnt make it w bad thing for the long term heatlh of eve online

But does any of this justify reporting everyone you see with more than 1 bomber?



Pretty soon the only thing left in Eve resembling a sandbox will be the current attitudes of many of its players - Kids (players) running to Mom (CCP) because the big kid kicked over their castle.

I think ISD and CCP just need to close this thread. Because ultimately the stupidity here, is at an epic level.


IBL

lol and that's the same failed straw man argument that keeps being made by the Boxer crowd.

No, its not the same, EVEmon is not the same. TeamSpeak is not the same. EFT, Dotlan, you name it, its not the same and doesn't need to be used to try and justify why ISB should be allowed. But if it makes you feel better, no, MS Windows and multiple monitors are not the same as VFx

Holy smokes. That is a long winded way of saying "we band whoever the **** we want".

I run linix. My OS lets me do round robin! And change the look? change how the game looks? Seriously?

So really what they are saying is "you can pay for multiboxing accounts" But by god you work out how to use them we can ban you.

1. Trakow you are a liar !!!
2. I live in the WH since Jan 06, 2014 look in the killboard i saw you first in Dec, 2014 in it !
https://zkillboard.com/system/31000247/
3. if you want i can post the ingame mails you send to me from your main and alt char to prove that you are a liar !!!

I'm curious as to what questions remain unanswered after this.

Using ISBoxer to cheat is no longer allowed. You can only control one client at a time with one click of the mouse, simple as that.

Stop using spoofing, stop using input duplication, stop using uber macros.

How could it be any more clear?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tiBRu9Q40Y&feature=youtu.be

This is my finalized 20-man Incursion setup. You can see that there's zero multiplexing and a single mouse click or button click only ever generates one action to one client. If CCP adds a keybind to deploy and/or assist drones, I'll be down to 10-12 minute sites.

got an answer from a Petition.
i am asking here and now ccp to post that answer here, to stop anything speculative right now and right here!

You're missing the point which is it's a character that has done NOTHING but troll boxers and proclaim them as cheaters. So excuse me for not believing his supposed GM conversation.

I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them.[/i]

[Citation Needed]
If ISBoxer gives a player an advantage, so does PYFA, EFT, EVEMon, Fuzzworks, and EVE-Central, to name a few.

Okay, and that's an obvious lie.

Since i only 10 box i dont see the Problem with your posting?
i perform 10 Actions on 10 different boxes simultaniously. triggert ALONE by 10 fingers.
So every command is been sent from 1 finger to 1 box. no broadcasting no nothing.

now tell me. do i violate the eula?

I know that Nolak and Shadow have already dismissed Lord's writings, but I think they come closest to how CCP plans on enforcing the EULA.

...that round robin and video fx are against the rules if used for an advantage (though how much of an advantage is an advantage is questionable) that they have no client side detection (and instead rely on data analysis over period of months) and that players can be under investigation for months before action is taken.

It is possible to sue CCP currently under american law; [UCC, view; Deceit, Entrapment, False advertisement] So... if anyone is interested in a mass tort.

I've posted video evidence showing that I can achieve the same results as videoFX by just using eve in windowed mode.

Interesting conversation with CSM Steve Ronuken

This is mildly disturbing.... If the people who are supposed to represent us to CCP weren't informed of the full features of the program, how are they supposed to make informed decisions about it?

I love the insinuation that Steve is the one with an agenda here.

op success

Am I allowed to assign an extra programmable button on my keyboard to F12 and use that to broadcast for shields?

As far as can be understood, it's a "no".

Hello,

I have a bunch of MIDI control surfaces lying around (Launchpad, APC40, etc).

Basically, these are flat control surfaces with lots of buttons and knobs, sending out MIDI signal to my computer (looks like this:
http://www.akaipro.com/product/apc40)

If I convert MIDI signals to keystroke signals and play the game in such a setup, will it be considered as broadcasting / automation?