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AcronSz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:25:00 -
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Seriously people ... I dont understand the HUGE war with EvE vs. WoW to be utterly honest I can see why wow has more players ... Its wider more free ... but on the other hand eve's gfx is far better and the pvp is better ... and generally WoW is for lower aged people and on the other hand EvE is for much more logical people who are usually at a higher age.
Im going to try out WoW and by the looks it isn't too bad.
So can some people in a carm way without ripping me up or picking bits of me to make an insult and just tell me,
WHY IS EVE BETTER AND WOW NOT !?
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AcronSz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:29:00 -
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yes thats what i thought .... None can give me a reason -.-
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Terraform
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:29:00 -
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you're not exactly the brightest person when you claim WoW to be more free. In WoW you pick a class, a race and then you just grind yourself to max level.
In Eve you can choose to be any career you'd like, a miner, a scientist, a fighter, a cargo-trucker and lots more. WoW is a good game if you don't really care about putting some research into your game.
WoW is a grind... that's reason enough not to go there...
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Acronikosz
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:30:00 -
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I understand that but Im going to play both EvE and WoW, in my eyes they are totally different .. they both have advantages and disadvantages .... they are like differnt genres .
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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:32:00 -
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I would play WoW if it had more hardcore PvP and not so lvl based.
You have to give WoW creds for nice content and quests; Compared to EVE where you end up with the same in EVERY solarsystem - No differsety(sp) what so ever!
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AcronSz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:33:00 -
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yer exactly thanks for that .. Im not hitting you guys or saying facts Im just wanting to know WHY ... 
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:33:00 -
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WoW is more free than eve?
What exactly do you have freedom to do? 
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AcronSz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:35:00 -
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when I say 'FREE' I mean .. its not the same ... stars and roids and stations .. wow has differnt map areas dangerous places .. flying options and just roaming around looking for yuo're mates or just messing around ... as in eve there is always danger with pirates and rats .. and its a bit boring just watching ships and stars blob around you.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Acronikosz I understand that but Im going to play both EvE and WoW, in my eyes they are totally different .. they both have advantages and disadvantages .... they are like differnt genres .
QFT You cant compare a space simulation (?) with a planet based game. Eve is much more complicated. Also the skill training vs. experience gaining makes you spend more time on WoW to reach a point to use better stuff.
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Bill Shankly
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:36:00 -
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In wow you cant really choose what you want to do, your not free at all, once youve picked your class thats it, you have one play style for the rest of your playing time with that char. Also you cant "take over" any land or buy a place for you and your guild to hang out. you cant make anything usefull to use, you cant make money buying and selling, you cant make money mining, you cant make money fighting and if you do want to fight you have to choose one of 3 linear battlegrounds that just repeat themselves every game. If you want choice, dont choose WOW.
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Painapple Fearberry
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Painapple Fearberry on 02/09/2006 12:40:07 The OP is a troll, do not waste any more of your typing time.
EDIT: Bugger. Why does it always default to my alt...
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Bill Shankly
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: AcronSz when I say 'FREE' I mean .. its not the same ... stars and roids and stations .. wow has differnt map areas dangerous places .. flying options and just roaming around looking for yuo're mates or just messing around ... as in eve there is always danger with pirates and rats .. and its a bit boring just watching ships and stars blob around you.
no, there are many more places to go in EVE than in WOW. Its more boring walking around the same 10 square yards, killing the same mobs over and over than eve ever is.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:47:00 -
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I have played WOW quite a bit. I probably will play it again.
WOW is a fun game, but its very narrow. Leveling up is pretty cool its like living a cartoon fairy tale with an interesting plot. The end game is really weak though. The majority of the end game is raids that require a whole lot of players and very little thought. This sucks because the best items all come from these boring raids. The PVP has no signifigant impact on your character beyond opening up a few items.
I suggest that anyone should at least give lvls 1-60 a shot. Most people fins it fun. But dont expect much fun after 6 months.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Acronikosz
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:51:00 -
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I bet most of you got to lvl 4 and said, this is crap ... guys look wow is far more succesfull ... triple the players ... but I have to agree eve has more strong points ... im gettin wow just to play with my m8s .... its like a hang out game ... for when im tired or bored or waiting for skills to train.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:53:00 -
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WoW = Pretty colors, fairies, dwarves and elves to come and hold your hand.
EVE = None of the above.
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dantes inferno
Caldari Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:53:00 -
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1)WOW is more linear and has less freedom 2)WOW pvp has no real loss..making it worthless and yet another grind 3)in WOW you have to grind, though the choice is there..you dont have to in EVE 4)the playerbase in WOW is much more childish, a perfect breeding ground for brainless trols like yourself 5) throughout WOW the game itself holds your hand all the way through, something EVE does not. 6)the playerbase in EVE make the game..making it much more dynamic and enjoyable
there are 6 reasons why EVE players belive EVE to be better than WOW....im sure there are more. but coming to the EVE forums and asking why people thing EVE is better than WOW..is a dead give away to your trolling. _____
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Gonada
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:56:00 -
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wow = easymode wow = instant gratification
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Tator K'Tal
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:57:00 -
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Why WoW sucks :
1) AI prevents you from leaving area until you've leveled up, totally linear.
2) PVP without looting has absolutley no point whatsoever.
3) PVP is just plain bad, duels last what, 12 seconds tops.
4) Cant bandage in combat, who needs it when the fights over, I'm already dead.
5) Pots are linked and you can only chug one every coupla minutes, why bother.
6) It's cheaper to die 10 times and repair your armor than drink 1 heal pot.
7) Everything is soulbound so you can't even give stuff away let alone sell it, just plain stupid.
8) No housing, nothing changes, mundane, predictible, boring.
9) Nothing decays, ever, just keep on repairing it, economy is a joke.
10) Movement is painfully slow, not from lag or a poor comp, just six-million-dollar-man slow.
11) Travel, do I really need to see the scenery, just teleport me there, please.
12) Instanced dungeons, might as well be a stand alone game.
13) Character cutomization, was there any?
14) Crafting designed for three year olds, until they get bored that is.
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St Dragon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:00:00 -
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Sighs...Eve is a space game. Wow is a pre teen fantasy game there are too many differences between then to do a fare comparison really however i will do some minor comparisons i guess.
1. All loot in WoW has to be linked to you to be fully used once that is done it CANT be traded.
2. WoW has an average retention rate of 2 months compared to 12 months with eve.
3. WoW is aparently fun on the grind from level 1 to 60 but most dont really like the endgame here. In eve there is no real endgame same as there are no real set profesion routes.
In the end all i can say is by all means give WoW a go if you can afford to make your own judgement and in the end if you decide to return to eve you are always welcome, and if you enjoy WoW....good for you. -----------------------------------------------
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand |

Miss Overlord
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:05:00 -
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eve = for adults wow - for kids
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Bolt Crimson
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:06:00 -
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Two completely different games. It's like comparing Counterstrike to Civilisation IV. Just doesn't work that way. Who cares, anyway? Why is there such a need for fanboy vs fanboy battles?
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Liegus
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:13:00 -
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WoW *IS* better.
Can I have your stuff?
On a more serious note- I played WoW. I quit when I realized that the end-game was your choice of:
1) grinding raids to get raid gear so you can grind raids 2) grinding battlegrounds to get PVP gear so you can grind battlegrounds 3) grinding rediculous quests to get gear inferior to 1) and 2) 4) Kill newbies in one blow over and over and over and over. 8 hours a day. Every day. Weeee :P 5) Find something fun to do.
I didn't wanna do 1) because I'd already done that in Everquest, and playing a game for 12 hours a day is work. But they don't pay you. :P
I didn't wanna do 2) because it's a lot like 1) except that you do it with masses of crazed (or AFK) (or both) idiots instead of your guild-mates.
I didn't wanna do 3) because you do it alone, and you wind up with poo for gear, and even getting the best gear in the game isn't a particularly enticing reward in the first place.
I didn't wanna do 4) (popular though it is) because it's as boring as 1) and the company is just as stupid as 2), with all the disadvantages of 3) thrown in for good luck.
So I went for 5). Hi Eve :)
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Bill Shankly
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tator K'Tal Why WoW sucks :
1) AI prevents you from leaving area until you've leveled up, totally linear.
2) PVP without looting has absolutley no point whatsoever.
3) PVP is just plain bad, duels last what, 12 seconds tops.
4) Cant bandage in combat, who needs it when the fights over, I'm already dead.
5) Pots are linked and you can only chug one every coupla minutes, why bother.
6) It's cheaper to die 10 times and repair your armor than drink 1 heal pot.
7) Everything is soulbound so you can't even give stuff away let alone sell it, just plain stupid.
8) No housing, nothing changes, mundane, predictible, boring.
9) Nothing decays, ever, just keep on repairing it, economy is a joke.
10) Movement is painfully slow, not from lag or a poor comp, just six-million-dollar-man slow.
11) Travel, do I really need to see the scenery, just teleport me there, please.
12) Instanced dungeons, might as well be a stand alone game.
13) Character cutomization, was there any?
14) Crafting designed for three year olds, until they get bored that is.
Although i much prefer eve, i used to enjoy WoW and i can tell from what you say here you have no proper experience of wow.
1, you can go where u want, when u want, u just might not live very long. 2, PvP without looting has a purpose to kill the other players and beat them and a fight. 3,Duels can last up to half an hour, you must have dueled at level 10. 4,u can bandage in combat. 5,Pots gain u mana and HP thats why you bother, if you cant see the benfits of gaining health and HP then i dontthink you understand. 6,from this i can tell u didnt even bother to go above level 10, with my char, 1 deaths repairs is about 3-4 health pots. 7,Only certain Items are soulbound 8,Aggree with u on this point. 9,Ammo, pet food, potions, buffs, food all vanish as u use them. 10,can tell u never got above level 10 yet again, movement is much slower in EvE. 11,just like u get teleported from place to place in eve, oh hang on a minute, you dont. 12,instanced dungeons are just like the deadspace quests u repeat over and over and over, except in WoW you actually get differen quests, not the same crap over and over. 13, aggree with u on this the only customizable things are choosing your skills. 14,aggree on this point.
all in all i can tell from your answers that you didnt play the game for very long therefor you cant really make valid points.
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Galk
Gallente Autumn Tactics
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Painapple Fearberry Edited by: Painapple Fearberry on 02/09/2006 12:40:07 The OP is a troll, do not waste any more of your typing time.
Yep, spot on.
Yet despite our (eve gamers) superior intellect (as descibed in the majority of the posts allready) we fall for the same trolls everyweek.
Who realy cares tbh.... ______ Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free. We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
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Kiyirari
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:27:00 -
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I played WOW for about 2 months, had a level 42 druid by the end of it. The only problems i had with the game was...
1. I dislike grinding 
2. The pvp was rubbish and full of LAG #
3. The community aspect of game was very poor 
4. The game was more suited for the age group of 12 and below 
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spookz
Freedom Confederation
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Painapple Fearberry EDIT: Bugger. Why does it always default to my alt...
Want a cookie?
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Anara Serraph
Serraph Family Holdings
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kiyirari I played WOW for about 2 months, had a level 42 druid by the end of it. The only problems i had with the game was...
1. I dislike grinding 
2. The pvp was rubbish and full of LAG #
3. The community aspect of game was very poor 
4. The game was more suited for the age group of 12 and below 
pretty much ditto except i got to level 51 before i decided to quit
the problem with WoW for me is the grind:
bored of your warrior want to play a wizzard you have to grind all over again, in Eve you want to be a miner train mining and if you dont like it just train something else.
also it doesnt help that the end game is so crappy, oh look i can run a big dungeon with loads of other people in a raid to get new peices of armour which will help me to run the dungeon again 
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.09.02 14:01:00 -
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The response you made directly after my post shows you are just a troll.
idiot
Wherever you went - here you are.
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wulfhammer
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Posted - 2006.09.02 14:14:00 -
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Does it matter what anyone else thinks?? 
The Wow is for kids and Eve is for adults comment is ridiculous. I know kids that play Eve and have tried Wow and i know adults that play Wow (and prefer it) that have played Eve and yes they gave it a good try i.e. 9 months.
I personally love Eve but i go back to Wow now and again when i want to just chill and not worry about what i might lose etc.
Like i said who cares about others opinions, its only yours that count.
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Svanh Mickahl
Infinite Dreams Inc Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.02 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Svanh Mickahl on 02/09/2006 14:39:10 Why is EVE better?
1) Players actually have an impact on the game. Your actions can effect others around you indirectly. The economy is really player effected and the
player interaction is 100 times better than any game on the market.
2) Eve has a policy of 100% free expansions. This means you buy the game once and then get every expansion as they come out, if I recall correclty WOW is
charging for some of their new content.
3) Complete character freedom.. All the fantasy games I have seen have the same style, you picvk a race and class and then that is what you are. If you want to be a different kind of player, say a dwarven warrior wants to be a wizard, he cannot do this. Oh he might get a few magic skills but he will never truly be a great wizard let alone as good as a player that started as an Elven Wizard. In EVE you can be what you want when you want. A Caldari warrior can become a Minmatar Ship Producer and researcher any time he wants. Now his race of course does not actually change but he will be able to research and produce Minmatar ships as well as a Minmatar that started doing that if he commits the time to learning it.
4) Amazing Community: Now I know all games think their community is the best, however I have been around computer gaming since it started, seriously almost 30 years and I have seena dn been a part of some of the greatest games ever made. I have seen the good and the bad in gaming communities and I can say that the EVE community is one of the best I have EVER seen. In fact CCP can quote me as saying that I have stated to many people EVE Online is in my top 5 games of all time list. This amazing community has to due with the age of the players, EVE is a much more mature game than most in it's player base. It also has to do with the amazing open ended system they have created that have allowed massive community involvement that translate into game related effects.
I could go on but in the end all of this is opinion, is Eve a better game from a plyer perspective, NO, it is different. That also goes for every game otu there, no game is better or worse than any other, it is different and thus a matter of taste.
If however you are looking for a game that will stretch your play to the limit, will force you out of your comfort zone, will make you PLAY the game not just follow along then EVE is the best thing out there.
Eve vs WOW is like comparing a fine wine to a glass of coke. Coke tastes great and provides a quick enjoyment with little effort. A fine wine needs a good meal prepared to enjoy it, then it must be savored to fully gain what it has to offer. A coke is cheap and easy, a fine wine is hard and requires an effort to search out and find the perfect taste.
It is all a matter of choice and the choice for many of us is the fine wine and meal that Eve provides us everytime we play..
For limitless possibilities, you need Infinite Dreams
====================================== Svanh Mickahl CEO, Infinite Dreams |

Infinity Ziona
Feet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.02 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bill Shankly In wow you cant really choose what you want to do, your not free at all, once youve picked your class thats it, you have one play style for the rest of your playing time with that char. Also you cant "take over" any land or buy a place for you and your guild to hang out. you cant make anything usefull to use, you cant make money buying and selling, you cant make money mining, you cant make money fighting and if you do want to fight you have to choose one of 3 linear battlegrounds that just repeat themselves every game. If you want choice, dont choose WOW.
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Infinity Ziona
Feet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.02 14:56:00 -
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Errrm I think you can take over land, isnt that the purpose of the controlled areas?
Theres some sort of tower thing. I found some the other day while exploring. They belong to either Alliance or Horde and are like soveriegnty towers.
Havent tried mining or making money from fighting yet but PvP is definitely not limited to 3 battlegrounds. On the RPPVP server I play on you can PvP anywhere except the major cities with scaling restrictions
- You can attack any enemy in your own city, in uncontrolled territory you can attack anyone of any age bracket, in enemy territory you can attack anyone who attacks you first. There are actually more PvP restrictions in EvE then the server I play on. Less penalties for death but thats the aim of that game, fast PvP, Less loss vs EvE, slow PvP, high loss.
One is not necessarily better then the other since its subjective.
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St Dragon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.02 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Errrm I think you can take over land, isnt that the purpose of the controlled areas?
Theres some sort of tower thing. I found some the other day while exploring. They belong to either Alliance or Horde and are like soveriegnty towers.
Havent tried mining or making money from fighting yet but PvP is definitely not limited to 3 battlegrounds. On the RPPVP server I play on you can PvP anywhere except the major cities with scaling restrictions
- You can attack any enemy in your own city, in uncontrolled territory you can attack anyone of any age bracket, in enemy territory you can attack anyone who attacks you first. There are actually more PvP restrictions in EvE then the server I play on. Less penalties for death but thats the aim of that game, fast PvP, Less loss vs EvE, slow PvP, high loss.
One is not necessarily better then the other since its subjective.
Yes i know about the tower thing and no you dont really gain controll of the land all it does is give you a buff verses NPC's and its only for as long as you controll the towers. -----------------------------------------------
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand |

Jhoryc
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Posted - 2006.09.02 15:44:00 -
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Quote: On a more serious note- I played WoW. I quit when I realized that the end-game was your choice of:
1) grinding raids to get raid gear so you can grind raids 2) grinding battlegrounds to get PVP gear so you can grind battlegrounds 3) grinding rediculous quests to get gear inferior to 1) and 2) 4) Kill newbies in one blow over and over and over and over. 8 hours a day. Every day. Weeee :P 5) Find something fun to do.
I didn't wanna do 1) because I'd already done that in Everquest, and playing a game for 12 hours a day is work. But they don't pay you. :P
I didn't wanna do 2) because it's a lot like 1) except that you do it with masses of crazed (or AFK) (or both) idiots instead of your guild-mates.
I didn't wanna do 3) because you do it alone, and you wind up with poo for gear, and even getting the best gear in the game isn't a particularly enticing reward in the first place.
I didn't wanna do 4) (popular though it is) because it's as boring as 1) and the company is just as stupid as 2), with all the disadvantages of 3) thrown in for good luck.
So I went for 5). Hi Eve :)
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coldplasma
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Posted - 2006.09.02 15:52:00 -
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Younger players find it hard to get into EVE because of the huge complexity and the initial bore when you're a starting character. They end up mining in a frig, and when they get ganked for the first time, they leave whining how boring and lame the game is, and go on to play WoW. In WoW, when you die, you don't loose anything. PVP is no risk, PVE is no risk, and to make things just swell, it's a huge grind. Sure, EVE can be like that as well, but there are so many different ways of going about things like earning money. You can mine, sell your products, trade, do missions, go shoot rats, etc, whereas in WoW, you're most likely going to end up doing raids on the same dungeons over and over and over again. ____________________________
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Rehmes
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Posted - 2006.09.02 16:00:00 -
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The way i usually decide to play mmos is by looking at what it offers in the beginning but truly weighing what the endgame have. When u look at EVE it rly is a very though game to get a grasp of, but once u do it gives some of the best experiences ive had in any game. When u talk about WoW u have a game that is very easy to get into. A game that has a good variation of quests etc. However i always ask myself why am i lving? in every game i play. Why spend months to lv? what am i getting for it? other than just newer armor/wep? My answer is always PvP!!! WoW offers it, but there really is not much of an incentive to wanna pvp. Theres not land/castle to take over, in the end tha game offers nothing to top lv chars xcept grind dungeons to find the ultra rare armor/weps. Ull find urself at lv 60 in no time, and having nothing to do, ofc u will have fun through the process but in the end is wasted effort imo. EvE on the other hand is daunting at the beginning, the missions r a treadmill BUT u always have choices. If u set out to get what u want u can get it....in due time. There are complexes the rare gear all other mmos offer, the pvp u crave, and the fact that u can actually control sectors of space. In the end both games are radically different but i think EvE has more longetivity. To adress the member count issue....EvE is simply a more complicated game and id consider it hardcore therefore not as many people will play it as WoW because its just a very simple game to play.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.02 16:10:00 -
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I played WoW for 2 months, I played EVE for over a year. Heres why I left WoW:
1) After I got the quest where I had to get 50 troll tusks I realized that I was paying 15$ a month to work.
2) I felt obligated to log in and level so I can get my money's worth.
3) Calling the playerbase a bunch of retards would be a compliment.
4) PvP in itself was a grind (needed to get reputation so that you can access better items)
5) The game was unbalanced so that in the battlegrounds Horde would kick the crap out of alliance in all but the Alterac Valley arena. Why? Because at higher levels alliance can get items easier then horde since theres 10x as many alliance then there are horde.
6) Tuesday server downtime was STUPID. 1 hour per day is nice but the huge downtime every tuesday was ridiculous.
7) Forums were too huge, I couldn't spam because it got lost in a sea of other spam.
8) Their Auction House was as bad at EVE's T2 Inflation. (stupid ass carebears)
9) Running from one end of a map to the other is about as tedious as going thirty jumps in EVE.
10) Some dungeons can LITERALLY take over a day.
11) What do you do when you hit level 60, have the best (and yes there is a best) gear and have maxed out your characters PvP reputation? Create a new character and do it all over again! 
Welcome to World of Grindcraft. A totally mind numbing experience. ===============================================
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.02 16:45:00 -
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In eve you train skills to get more efficient
In wow you must gain experience to get more efficient
You dont need to spend time in eve to train skills but you must play the game if you want to get lvl60.
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Kalixa Hihro
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Posted - 2006.09.02 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: AcronSz Seriously people ... I dont understand the HUGE war with EvE vs. WoW to be utterly honest I can see why wow has more players ... Its wider more free ... but on the other hand eve's gfx is far better and the pvp is better ... and generally WoW is for lower aged people and on the other hand EvE is for much more logical people who are usually at a higher age.
Im going to try out WoW and by the looks it isn't too bad.
So can some people in a carm way without ripping me up or picking bits of me to make an insult and just tell me,
WHY IS EVE BETTER AND WOW NOT !?
Get a trial account. You might like it. It didn't grab me the way eve did. Not my cup of tea. For 6m users it is, so I am obviously abnormal.
-Kal
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Harry Voyager
Obscurity LLC
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Posted - 2006.09.02 19:31:00 -
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And gridning POS for days on end tops this, how?
Eve has its legs, but I don't see how people have any right to knock another game on its grind mentality, when current territorial wars in Eve revolve around 10+ hour lag fests where all that happens is one massive fleet chews on an inamimate object the entire time.
Just to top it off, our code weath generators are A: mine rock for 40+ hours straight, B: Ship POS fuel for umpteen-billion jumps, or C: Kill the same NPCs again and again and again and again
In the end, being in an Alliance was become work, and the obligation to them were eating out of time I needed for the rest of my life. In the end, about the only reason I still pay for Eve, is because I've got so much invested into my character, I can't quite bear to give him up yet, and the expense of maintaining it is small overall.
Harry Voyager
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2006.09.02 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Terraform you're not exactly the brightest person when you claim WoW to be more free. In WoW you pick a class, a race and then you just grind yourself to max level.
K... simple enough.
Originally by: Terraform In Eve you can choose to be any career you'd like, a miner, a scientist, a fighter, a cargo-trucker and lots more.
K... Seems like what you just said boils down to "you pick a class, a race".
And the same rules apply for WoW and EVE. You only get access to the stable high level content when you reach a certain point. EVE's point is when you join a big alliance and pick regions of 0.0 to inhabit. WoW's point is you hit 60 and start raiding with friends. What you decide to do when you hit the point is entirely upto you, but its not fair to criticise when you find out you dont enjoy it. ___________
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2006.09.02 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager In the end, about the only reason I still pay for Eve, is because I've got so much invested into my character, I can't quite bear to give him up yet, and the expense of maintaining it is small overall.
Thats more or less how I feel. I hit 60 in WoW, and I can drop it for months and months without the fear of ever droppping behind the best of the best. I can't do that on EVE, so I pay for 3 accounts while I wait for some insiration (or changes) for EVE. ___________
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Infinity Ziona
Feet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus I played WoW for 2 months, I played EVE for over a year. Heres why I left WoW:
1) After I got the quest where I had to get 50 troll tusks I realized that I was paying 15$ a month to work.
2) I felt obligated to log in and level so I can get my money's worth.
3) Calling the playerbase a bunch of retards would be a compliment.
4) PvP in itself was a grind (needed to get reputation so that you can access better items)
5) The game was unbalanced so that in the battlegrounds Horde would kick the crap out of alliance in all but the Alterac Valley arena. Why? Because at higher levels alliance can get items easier then horde since theres 10x as many alliance then there are horde.
6) Tuesday server downtime was STUPID. 1 hour per day is nice but the huge downtime every tuesday was ridiculous.
7) Forums were too huge, I couldn't spam because it got lost in a sea of other spam.
8) Their Auction House was as bad at EVE's T2 Inflation. (stupid ass carebears)
9) Running from one end of a map to the other is about as tedious as going thirty jumps in EVE.
10) Some dungeons can LITERALLY take over a day.
11) What do you do when you hit level 60, have the best (and yes there is a best) gear and have maxed out your characters PvP reputation? Create a new character and do it all over again! 
Welcome to World of Grindcraft. A totally mind numbing experience.
Errrm
1. I just spent 1.5 months grinding worlds collide so I could afford to buy a capital ship.
2. I feel obliged to log on and grind isk so I can get my moneys worth. And even then I cant because I dont want to join an alliance.
3. Since unlike yourself, I never knew all of the people on all of the servers I cant respond to that comment. But I assume its a rather large generalization.
4. Kill 1 ship and pod in low sec and you need to grind to get NPC faction back. Faction = Reputation.
5. In EvE, trying to get into 0.0 unless you join the Horde, is extremely hard and you will generally have the crap kicked out of you.
6. Not sure about this.
7. ?
8. As bad as EvE then.
9. Just like in EvE no one forces you to run to the other end of the map. Its a choice that should be available to people who are willing to go the extra distance.
10. Thats bad? Too much content is bad?
11. What did you do in EvE today that you didnt do last week, or last year? Been playing for a very long time and I can tell you theres pretty much nothing to do except log on and train a skill, grind ISK or help out in the help channel.
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Posted - 2006.09.03 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Scoundrelus I played WoW for 2 months, I played EVE for over a year. Heres why I left WoW:
1) After I got the quest where I had to get 50 troll tusks I realized that I was paying 15$ a month to work.
2) I felt obligated to log in and level so I can get my money's worth.
3) Calling the playerbase a bunch of retards would be a compliment.
4) PvP in itself was a grind (needed to get reputation so that you can access better items)
5) The game was unbalanced so that in the battlegrounds Horde would kick the crap out of alliance in all but the Alterac Valley arena. Why? Because at higher levels alliance can get items easier then horde since theres 10x as many alliance then there are horde.
6) Tuesday server downtime was STUPID. 1 hour per day is nice but the huge downtime every tuesday was ridiculous.
7) Forums were too huge, I couldn't spam because it got lost in a sea of other spam.
8) Their Auction House was as bad at EVE's T2 Inflation. (stupid ass carebears)
9) Running from one end of a map to the other is about as tedious as going thirty jumps in EVE.
10) Some dungeons can LITERALLY take over a day.
11) What do you do when you hit level 60, have the best (and yes there is a best) gear and have maxed out your characters PvP reputation? Create a new character and do it all over again! 
Welcome to World of Grindcraft. A totally mind numbing experience.
Errrm
1. I just spent 1.5 months grinding worlds collide so I could afford to buy a capital ship.
2. I feel obliged to log on and grind isk so I can get my moneys worth. And even then I cant because I dont want to join an alliance.
3. Since unlike yourself, I never knew all of the people on all of the servers I cant respond to that comment. But I assume its a rather large generalization.
4. Kill 1 ship and pod in low sec and you need to grind to get NPC faction back. Faction = Reputation.
5. In EvE, trying to get into 0.0 unless you join the Horde, is extremely hard and you will generally have the crap kicked out of you.
6. Not sure about this.
7. ?
8. As bad as EvE then.
9. Just like in EvE no one forces you to run to the other end of the map. Its a choice that should be available to people who are willing to go the extra distance.
10. Thats bad? Too much content is bad?
11. What did you do in EvE today that you didnt do last week, or last year? Been playing for a very long time and I can tell you theres pretty much nothing to do except log on and train a skill, grind ISK or help out in the help channel.
You, sir, are an idiot and haven't experience EVE at all Because you live in highsec noob.
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Infinity Ziona
Feet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Powder Monkey You, sir, are an idiot and haven't experience EVE at all Because you live in highsec noob.
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I would call you names but being you would be pain enough. 4 month old alt noob < Infinity.
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Powder Monkey
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Posted - 2006.09.03 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Powder Monkey You, sir, are an idiot and haven't experience EVE at all Because you live in highsec noob.
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I would call you names but being you would be pain enough. 4 month old alt noob < Infinity.
Like i said, empire hugging ***** 
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Infinity Ziona
Feet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 03/09/2006 05:41:52 Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 03/09/2006 05:40:28
Originally by: Powder Monkey
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Powder Monkey You, sir, are an idiot and haven't experience EVE at all Because you live in highsec noob.
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I would call you names but being you would be pain enough. 4 month old alt noob < Infinity.
Translated: Blah Blah Retarded Blah Blah
Why do you think I care alt moron? Post yours retard or shutup.
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Liegus
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Posted - 2006.09.03 05:50:00 -
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How fitting... a thread about WoW has degenerated to random name calling spam 
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Kurren
Farscape Mining
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Liegus How fitting... a thread about WoW has degenerated to random name calling spam 
Well, this is what the OP wanted... it just took a bit longer than expected. --- --- --- ---
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Infinity Ziona
Feet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:26:00 -
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Err yeah sorry.
That Monkey idiot came into the L4 channel the other day, asked for some advice and when he didnt like what I told him he became offensive and started talking about how I 'guzzle cum'??
Very offensive little worm with no manners and class. I'll edit my posts and then just ignore him.
All I told him is that he would have more trouble doing L4 in a Typhoon then a Raven because of turret range vs missile range or lackthereof. Go figure.
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Powder Monkey
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Posted - 2006.09.03 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Err yeah sorry.
That Monkey idiot came into the L4 channel the other day, asked for some advice and when he didnt like what I told him he became offensive and started talking about how I 'guzzle cum'??
Very offensive little worm with no manners and class. I'll edit my posts and then just ignore him.
All I told him is that he would have more trouble doing L4 in a Typhoon then a Raven because of turret range vs missile range or lackthereof. Go figure.
Was just a test to figure out if you're a carebear and know jack**** about EVE and play wow or not. Conclusion: ziona - carebearing little high-sec mission runner, who doesn't know anything about EVE except how to equip a raven for LVL4 missions and also plays wow it seems. Go figure 
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Big Al
Roving Band of Bunnies
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Posted - 2006.09.03 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Big Al on 03/09/2006 09:39:30 WoW has more drama, but also more *******.
wow. WoW forums also don't filter out the word for the lumps of flesh containing mammory glands.
This makes it 100% superior.
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Ann Mari
Amarr Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:00:00 -
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Wow and Eve are both great games. Top of their genres. Wow has a constant grind, but the game itself is very beautiful. And you never have to do the same mission twice, ever. That is a very very very big plus point. The game will keep you interested for about 4-6 months. And if you're lucky enough to be in a very active guild the end game is a lotta fun, but if your guild is smallish and you constantly struggle to get 40 people together for engame dungeons, it just plain sucks. You logon and wait for a raiod group to fill up. Most of the time it doesn't. And if it does, but it's not your normal experienced group, you die a lot for making stupid mistakes.
Eve has very very limited missions. So you wind up doing the same ones over and over and over again. Or you can do any of the other repetitive things ther are to do in Eve. Eve is a lot lot more dynamic and free compared to Wow. This is Eve's very very very big plus point.
You escalate in skills to do something new. Grinding for the isk while your skill trains. Then you get to your next short term goal, and you start grinding for isk while your skill is training toward your next short term goal. Somewhere along the line you might get bored and quit, or you just keep at it.
Both are great games, but vastly different.
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