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Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.05 06:07:00 - [121] Originally by: Quarantine Originally by: Nafri D¦ has friends and your not one of them, so your red, and we also dont nap POS huggers Uh? D2 tried to nap TCF months ago already, and they refused (or rather, didn't want to include MM/Guard in the deal). I'd be surprised if some D2 diplomat isn't still hammering the convo-NAP button right now. Oh, and wb Sorja. That will surely spill Nafri's Tea pot You what are still friends with D2 then or is that over also ? "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.05 06:18:00 - [122] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Quarantine Originally by: Nafri D¦ has friends and your not one of them, so your red, and we also dont nap POS huggers Uh? D2 tried to nap TCF months ago already, and they refused (or rather, didn't want to include MM/Guard in the deal). I'd be surprised if some D2 diplomat isn't still hammering the convo-NAP button right now. Oh, and wb Sorja. That will surely spill Nafri's Tea pot You what are still friends with D2 then or is that over also ? Not really, Quarantine has no clue. Cmd Woodlouse refused their request for a NAP and since they smack us on forums I think that with friends is over... Basicly, we refused any talks with TCF about naps, it isnt our war, were just helping friends. So its not D¦ vs TCF, its basicly MM + friends vs TCF. Anyway, last comment on this, for further questions, convo ingmae From Dusk till Dawn
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.09.05 07:02:00 - [123] you smack them for hugging pos' yet you show up with a fleet about 3 times their size. Do you really think they would just warp to the gate to engage you with those odds? In rust we trust!!!
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.05 08:47:00 - [124] Originally by: Nafri Cmd Woodlouse refused their request for a NAP and since they smack us on forums... Like in this thread? Looking at the first page I see troll posts from 4 different D2/MM members before the first TCF start flaming back. The same trend can be seen in just about any thread where TCF is concerned. You don't like smack? We have no interest in it, either, so if you keep your guys in check, you can be sure we'll reciprocate... Originally by: Nafri I think that with friends is over... Basicly, we refused any talks with TCF about naps, it isnt our war, were just helping friends. So its not D¦ vs TCF, its basicly MM + friends vs TCF. Anyway, last comment on this, for further questions, convo ingmae That's right. ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.
Quarantine Federation of Synthetic Persons YouWhat	Posted - 2006.09.05 09:10:00 - [125] Originally by: Nafri Not really, Quarantine has no clue. Cmd Woodlouse refused their request for a NAP and since they smack us on forums I think that with friends is over... Basicly, we refused any talks with TCF about naps, it isnt our war, were just helping friends. When TCF entered Venal, they asked for the nap and woody refused (several times I've heard). During the goon invasion in CR, when TCF started to attack MM/GUARD, you had people in your lead panic and try to nap them. Maybe not all of you were aware of it, like when trillian tried to sell us out to goons, but it definately happened.
Rimini Toranos	Posted - 2006.09.05 10:30:00 - [126] Well ... the thing is that if there were no lag issues the station in d7 would return to allied control in 20minutes + reinforced time + 20minutes.
ZePequerio Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:30:00 - [127] Originally by: Rimini Toranos Well ... the thing is that if there were no lag issues the station in d7 would return to allied control in 20minutes + reinforced time + 20minutes. You must be kidding right ? I really hope that CCP will fix it so instead of killing 7 dread in one day it's gonna be 20...
NOObbody Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:33:00 - [128] Originally by: ZePequerio Originally by: Rimini Toranos Well ... the thing is that if there were no lag issues the station in d7 would return to allied control in 20minutes + reinforced time + 20minutes. You must be kidding right ? I really hope that CCP will fix it so instead of killing 7 dread in one day it's gonna be 20... But you dont have that many dreads, we could destroy. Just fun... At least the frustration of not being able to control your ship and react on the situation will be gone.
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:41:00 - [129] Sure, the most important thing in a fight is getting adrenaline out of it. Winning or losing is only secondary. And lag isn't really good for adrenaline. You might as well toss a dice to see if you're going to get out in one piece or in a station. ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.
Burner23	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:57:00 - [130] Tip off they day. If TFC playes it right you will never ever get the system. TFC will pos spam the whole system, then make them all deadstar posses. D2 fleet will come in and try to shoot the posses, TFC will have bs's boosting the pos. You may manage to put it in reinforce mode, then TFC will carrier jump stront in and pos will be fixed. In the mean while you will have to suffer great loses on your dreads and bs's fleets. And in the end you will just quite doing it because why lose so much for something thats not worth it. So just wait till devs fix the lag or what ever, and do some pew pew for fun. RA did it others can do it to. with good timing a good team they will win.

katz3 moon7empler Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.05 13:04:00 - [131] Quarantine is so cute. <3
Miss Lilly Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.05 13:46:00 - [132] Yes, The war over Tribute is definitely MM vs TCF. Both have allies, with MM's allies being more numerous and active. The game mechanics have forced some delays to POS removal Op's, but that is only minor inconvenience. The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew. And during all this, billions of isk is being spent on ship replacements and POS fuels, all the time. Was it worth it TCF?
Ginaz Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.05 14:04:00 - [133] /me shakes head "Oh lord what did i do? Please forgive me!" Video: 'Behind enemy lines' Queen of the Amazones
Karylia Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.05 14:11:00 - [134] Originally by: Miss Lilly The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew. Oh really ? You wanna talk about your small mining POS's around D7 ? :D
Fornacis Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.05 14:22:00 - [135] Sorry, but from my observation ... the only thing controlling D7 is TCF's POS's. There maybe a dozen or so TCF online during my watch, and they are either docked or hiding in POS's. The only fighting they want, is when we are assaulting a POS, and they have lag on their side. Take this as trolling, mud slinging, talking ****, whatever....just giving my opinion and observation. TCF WILL be removed.....and that is the bottom line.
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.05 14:27:00 - [136] Yes, it was, and still is, worth it. The goal of this campaign isn't related to isks. It's not about just owning a conquerable, either, or we could have saved ourselves a lot of efforts and just built an outpost. Because we hold on when everyone was thinking we'd be gone in a week, the community at large now see TCF as a signifiant power, with both the will and the pvp strength to do more than a few ganks here and there, not just some random npc station alliance, and that, is priceless, both for politics and for recruitment. And I won't speak about "fun" or "experience", I think you got the idea already. :p ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.
Khayman33 Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.05 14:30:00 - [137] Originally by: Miss Lilly Yes, The war over Tribute is definitely MM vs TCF. Both have allies, with MM's allies being more numerous and active. The game mechanics have forced some delays to POS removal Op's, but that is only minor inconvenience. The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew. And during all this, billions of isk is being spent on ship replacements and POS fuels, all the time. Was it worth it TCF? You are only with half in the truth ,you don't have complete control of tribute , just H-W and where your gang moving like us :) And for the isks, it's sure it's not a peaceful time so we don t make lot of isks ( logic just a few :p ) and we don't have region to run for make it :)
Axia Firehead Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.05 14:57:00 - [138] Originally by: Fornacis Sorry, but from my observation ... the only thing controlling D7 is TCF's POS's. There maybe a dozen or so TCF online during my watch, and they are either docked or hiding in POS's. The only fighting they want, is when we are assaulting a POS, and they have lag on their side. Take this as trolling, mud slinging, talking ****, whatever....just giving my opinion and observation. TCF WILL be removed.....and that is the bottom line. fornacis , it s sure that you don t see us, as we don t see you. for this, you need to be active in pvp, and it s not your case. the last time you were involved in a kill was the 4 july... 2 month ago .. so, your "observation" don t mean a lot... little grunt
Gozmoth Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.05 15:02:00 - [139] Originally by: Miss Lilly Was it worth it TCF ? Actually ? Yes. And not only it was worthy but we take great pleasure at it ! I hope that I will see soon a big confrontation between MM and TCF, man to man.
Bloodst0ne The Priory	Posted - 2006.09.05 15:15:00 - [140] Glad to see this forum is heating up again.. On topic: Err.. umm.. Lag sucks.! -blood I have the "I Win Button" of eve.

Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.09.05 15:37:00 - [141] Originally by: Miss Lilly Yes, The war over Tribute is definitely MM vs TCF. Both have allies, with MM's allies being more numerous and active. The game mechanics have forced some delays to POS removal Op's, but that is only minor inconvenience. The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew. And during all this, billions of isk is being spent on ship replacements and POS fuels, all the time. Was it worth it TCF? You cannot use tribute more than we can, you control tribute, then how come we destroyed most of your small pos around ? where were your fleets to prevent us from destroying them ? I mean come on, I know it's just a few small poses, but you knew when they went out of reinforced and you did not even dared to form up to protect them. Why ? is it because you can't ask D¦ to lead your fleet to defend a small pos can you ? don't make it sound like MM has ANY significant military power, you do not.
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.05 15:50:00 - [142] Originally by: Amerame Originally by: Miss Lilly Yes, The war over Tribute is definitely MM vs TCF. Both have allies, with MM's allies being more numerous and active. The game mechanics have forced some delays to POS removal Op's, but that is only minor inconvenience. The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew. And during all this, billions of isk is being spent on ship replacements and POS fuels, all the time. Was it worth it TCF? You cannot use tribute more than we can, you control tribute, then how come we destroyed most of your small pos around ? where were your fleets to prevent us from destroying them ? I mean come on, I know it's just a few small poses, but you knew when they went out of reinforced and you did not even dared to form up to protect them. Why ? is it because you can't ask D¦ to lead your fleet to defend a small pos can you ? don't make it sound like MM has ANY significant military power, you do not. Stop barking plz. You too lost small POSes - how come you could let it happen O_O. And you only hold (not even control) D7 - H-W and IMK are still there (surprise!!! IMK is also Tribute!). So except for one system which you hold (yeah snipe em if they come with 1 ship, run if they bring more) you dont have any other input into it. And btw: where are YOUR fleets when we come with equal forces? Ah logged off... sorry. So its either you outblob us or we outblob you and force you to log off.
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.09.05 15:55:00 - [143] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Stop barking plz. You too lost small POSes - how come you could let it happen O_O. And you only hold (not even control) D7 - H-W and IMK are still there (surprise!!! IMK is also Tribute!). So except for one system which you hold (yeah snipe em if they come with 1 ship, run if they bring more) you dont have any other input into it. And btw: where are YOUR fleets when we come with equal forces? Ah logged off... sorry. So its either you outblob us or we outblob you and force you to log off. Yeah we lost a few small pos I don't claim otherwise, I do not claim that TCF control tribute 23/7 unlike you. If you controled tribute destroying small pos with strontium would never have happened. See fleet of 80 people hitting on a pos, that should be a golden opportunity for you to attack us ? or that large pos we destroyed in D7- with just battleship, where were your fleets ? Fact is that no one control venal & tribute both are highly dangerous at the moment.
quellious COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.05 15:58:00 - [144] Hi guys, Accordings to my observations, Tribute is currently under TCF control. The fun thing is that MM are doing just what VC has done when BoB came in Fountain ... they hide just at the borderline between 0.0 and empire. They deployed a cct2 production line within 3 jumps from empire, and we already damaged some part of it without resistance. As a remind D7 is still flagged with TCF sovereignty whereas our oponents sweared that they will remove us in next weeks ... trust who you want now :) Fights in Tribute are almost over ... - > Order Falcon & Pilgrim > Colsup
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:05:00 - [145] Originally by: Shadowsword Because we hold on when everyone was thinking we'd be gone in a week, the community at large now see TCF as a signifiant power, with both the will and the pvp strength to do more than a few ganks here and there, not just some random npc station alliance, and that, is priceless, both for politics and for recruitment. And the prize for joker of the month goes to the above... The community is not as stupid as you may think. The community is aware that the numbers are on our side but POS removal with the current state of the game is almost impossible. TCF are a power, yes but then so is every single alliance in the game is a power. But how much you have is the question. You have D7, but does that concern any of the northern alliances? naaaa!! I come and go through D7 as I would normmally on most days. Who's living in your real home of H-PA? Mordus Angels I beleive, with almost no oppostiton. So where is your power? You have neither a secure home, base of operations, freedom of travel, numbers to expand your current holdings or in fact the real credibility to call your selves a power that should be considered significant. A threat.... ok yea i'll give you that, you do put it up sometimes but usually in smaller ships (NJ4 last night?) and leave the bigger ships with your polishing drones back in the hangar if there's a thought you may lose the fight. Bottom line is do not kid yourselves, this is something that YOU do not control. Holding D7 is being controlled by CCP at the moment because of weaknesses in the game infrastructure that everyone is waiting to be fixed. When it is, your time will be done and you will be forcibly removed and personally I look forward to your complete and utter removal from the North. Go on and beat your chests a little more for a while longer, pat each other on the backs for a great 'victory' against the northern coalition and hug each other at night before you go to bed. But bear in mind reality is just around the corner and it's going to be tearing a rather large chunk out of your rear as the folly of your actions and words bites back.... have fun for now, but time is aaaall it's taking and we have plenty of that in hand. ---------------------------------------------- We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:13:00 - [146] Edited by: Amerame on 05/09/2006 16:12:48 If every single alliance in the game could pull a russian, there wouldn't be many alliance with 3+ stations in the game. Don't make it sound like it's easy, you still need to be able to deplay 20-50 large PoS, you need to have 100 people avaible 23/7 to defend pos. Fact is that to defend you need just 100 - 150 people in gang, and you can defend yourself against any number with those, afaik not THAT many alliance in the game can field a fleet of 100 ships by itself, MM can't, razor can't, in the northeast except D¦ and TCF no single alliance can field those numbers.
Miss Lilly Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:16:00 - [147] Originally by: quellious Hi guys, Accordings to my observations, Tribute is currently under TCF control. The fun thing is that MM are doing just what VC has done when BoB came in Fountain ... they hide just at the borderline between 0.0 and empire. They deployed a cct2 production line within 3 jumps from empire, and we already damaged some part of it without resistance. As a remind D7 is still flagged with TCF sovereignty whereas our oponents sweared that they will remove us in next weeks ... trust who you want now :) Fights in Tribute are almost over ... Your observations are wrong. Originally by: Amerame You cannot use tribute more than we can, you control tribute, then how come we destroyed most of your small pos around ? where were your fleets to prevent us from destroying them ? I mean come on, I know it's just a few small poses, but you knew when they went out of reinforced and you did not even dared to form up to protect them. Why ? is it because you can't ask D¦ to lead your fleet to defend a small pos can you ? don't make it sound like MM has ANY significant military power, you do not. Those small POS's we don't care about, we let you destroy. Why would it be anything bigger than that? Since when has military provess been measured by destroyed small POS's? Fact is that MM can still make isk in Tribute/Venal, you cannot.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:20:00 - [148] Originally by: Bloodst0ne Glad to see this forum is heating up again.. On topic: Err.. umm.. Lag sucks.! -blood Off topic , U SUCK :P On Topic , if tribute stations are still under TCF control and not MM then TCF is currently holdign tribute and if MM are fightign then its a warzone but if MM are holdign staions then it is a contested area , so all the batterign about we wont u guys suck bla bla bla has realy no meaning the only meaning is the current status of the stations and the effect of the battels on who holds soverginty. "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:34:00 - [149] Originally by: Miss Lilly Those small POS's we don't care about, we let you destroy. Why would it be anything bigger than that? Since when has military provess been measured by destroyed small POS's? Fact is that MM can still make isk in Tribute/Venal, you cannot. Yes TCF has not been able to make isk in venal in the last 5 months, and still can't. It's only in your dreams that the northern coalition can disrupt our grinding in venal, as for tribute go ahead and try to mine / rat, there are no TCF in Tribute.
Vegas Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:49:00 - [150] 1st of lets not forget there are 3 stations in Tribute. 1 under TCF control 2 under MM/Guard(allied) control. This thread really has no meaning, TCF you can claim victory where you wish, you can scream on the forums all you like that you are killing our small POS's. You can even have the map changed to your sovreignity for i all care. Fact is you want to live in the north and control 2 of your own outposts. As this conflict continues and your forum whoring grows there is less chance of you ever doing this. The worst thing your alliance ever did was not attack Tribute whether you wanted to show the north you were a valid enemy/ally. Is was come to the forums with it all. I for one hope and will never agree to a NAP with TCF, the longer the conflict continues the less distance i have to travel for pvp. -------------------------------------------- Originally by: Mokelo Just browsing the killboards and wow someone just got owned. Originally by: Ulynidd Yes you got owned for posting with an alt.



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