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Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 142	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:19:51 - [1] - Quote Welcome to the new EVE-O Preview thread. As of StinkRay's absence, I'll be taking over bugfixes and the like. The original thread can be found here. As of version 1.15 I have moved the project to Github: https://github.com/MakariAeron/eve-o-preview The old bitbucket repositories can be found here, here, and here. Download StinkRay wrote: Examples / Screenshots Example 1 - Four clients in a "sidebar". Example 2 - Four clients, unique position of previews for each active. (hiding the active window) Example 3 - Two clients Example 4 - Two clients, hiding the frame on the preview window Example 5 - 12 (twelve!) clients across 3 monitors. Installation and usage In any order: Extract and run the exe. Set options according to your preference. Fire up your eve client Requirements Vista, Win7 or Win8 Aero Enabled .NET 4.5 CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Broke and Famous Test Alliance Please Ignore 4	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:24:19 - [2] - Quote Juts to get updates. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Lilu Egnald Hostess Industries 0	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:43:06 - [3] - Quote <3 This is all I used isboxer for (the window setup) didn't know this existed!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 145	Posted - 2014.12.04 12:32:25 - [4] - Quote Yep! Assuming life stays as low key as it is right now, I'll do my best to have numbers 1 & 3 (minimize to system tray & an installer version) on my TODO list done soonTM. Projected release is this weekend, but as always that can change. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 151	Posted - 2014.12.06 21:26:15 - [5] - Quote Version 1.16 released! This is another minor update. Next I'll be tackling that pesky bug where the settings window loses focus. This fix could take a while so unless someone finds a bug, 1.16 will stay the stable release for a while. I did not include an installer version as I'm not too keen on the options available in VS2013. I'll have to look into it more before deciding. Direct Download What's New -- Version 1.16 Minimize to system tray option (the system tray is where the clock is located) Replaced stock image in the aboutbox Some image resource rearrangement and minor code adjustment CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Amely Miles Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate 41	Posted - 2014.12.06 23:07:53 - [6] - Quote i approve of this thread Favorite Quotes: In Space No one flings Poo!! Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket http://spacemp.net
Takagamu Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 2	Posted - 2014.12.07 00:55:39 - [7] - Quote I forked stuff in Github. But am not familiar with it (branches, forks and stuff). Don't know if you can see my changes I hopefully only made in my own hub :D
LadyBlademaster Event Horizon Expeditionaries Apocalypse Now. 2	Posted - 2014.12.08 03:37:27 - [8] - Quote Thank you guys, just discovered this and it is awesome!!!
l0rd carlos Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire 1102	Posted - 2014.12.08 07:36:09 - [9] - Quote Takagamu wrote: I forked stuff in Github. But am not familiar with it (branches, forks and stuff). Don't know if you can see my changes I hopefully only made in my own hub :D If you think you did something usefull, you can send the origin repository a "pull request" OP than gets a notification and can pull directly from your repo into his. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com
Ssoraszh Tzarszh Eschelon Directive Universal Consortium 70	Posted - 2014.12.08 13:55:57 - [10] - Quote Awesome, works like a charm. Would you consider adding hotkey support? I would like to have my eve real estate as full screen as possible and hiding the overlay while using shortcuts (CTRL + ALT + 1 to 0 for example) would allow you to switch without having to surrender your precious pixel space. As right now it is either using the 'always on top' or being relegated to using it in the same way the Windows 8 Taskbar handles it by having to focus to the window and choosing an active account. o7

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 151	Posted - 2014.12.08 14:19:45 - [11] - Quote Takagamu wrote: I forked stuff in Github. But am not familiar with it (branches, forks and stuff). Don't know if you can see my changes I hopefully only made in my own hub :D Fork = your own personal copy Branch = separate development within your own project Ssoraszh Tzarszh wrote: Awesome, works like a charm. Would you consider adding hotkey support? I would like to have my eve real estate as full screen as possible and hiding the overlay while using shortcuts (CTRL + ALT + 1 to 0 for example) would allow you to switch without having to surrender your precious pixel space. As right now it is either using the 'always on top' or being relegated to using it in the same way the Windows 8 Taskbar handles it by having to focus to the window and choosing an active account. o7 That's a good idea. I'll put it on the todo list. I use "always on top" and have it on my second monitor with my non-EVE programs (browser, Skype, TS3, etc) CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 3759	Posted - 2014.12.08 19:38:21 - [12] - Quote Hey, Forked the GitHub project and tried to open in VS. However it's unable to open "..\EOPSetup\EOPSetup.vdproj" It seems you have the installer application added to the project but not in the same Git repo. :( @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 970	Posted - 2014.12.08 21:16:36 - [13] - Quote Been using this for the past few months and this has removed the need for me to have a second (or third) monitor. I wish I had feedback but this works pretty flawlessly. If I had a recommendation, would be to put in some default sizes in a drop down menu (good size box for a 1920 screen, one for a 2100 size, another for a 4 k screen. It's not really needed (can just convert it via math myself, considering I run a little oddball size of 2560 by 1600). That's a bit of a needless request as there are better things to code in. Fantastic program though. Works well and wish it existed a long time ago. Yaay!!!!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 151	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:10:38 - [14] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Hey, Forked the GitHub project and tried to open in VS. However it's unable to open "..\EOPSetup\EOPSetup.vdproj" It seems you have the installer application added to the project but not in the same Git repo. :( You could just make a branch, you are a contributor to the main project. Dammit. I'll have to figure out how to add it to the main project when I get home tonight. I'll probably just have to put them both in the same folder in my github repository clone. It's a VS2013 Installer Extension Phoenix Jones wrote: Been using this for the past few months and this has removed the need for me to have a second (or third) monitor. I wish I had feedback but this works pretty flawlessly. If I had a recommendation, would be to put in some default sizes in a drop down menu (good size box for a 1920 screen, one for a 2100 size, another for a 4 k screen. It's not really needed (can just convert it via math myself, considering I run a little oddball size of 2560 by 1600). That's a bit of a needless request as there are better things to code in. Fantastic program though. Works well and wish it existed a long time ago. I've been considering that, I didn't know how much people wanted it. TBH, I'd be making a 4:3, 16:9, 16:10, and whatever 4k is for the ratio. But if you accidentally change your window size it's no longer accurate. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
StinkRay The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED 386	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:20:33 - [15] - Quote hello! EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 3767	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:31:43 - [16] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Hey, Forked the GitHub project and tried to open in VS. However it's unable to open "..\EOPSetup\EOPSetup.vdproj" It seems you have the installer application added to the project but not in the same Git repo. :( You could just make a branch, you are a contributor to the main project. Dammit. I'll have to figure out how to add it to the main project when I get home tonight. I'll probably just have to put them both in the same folder in my github repository clone. It's a VS2013 Installer Extension I guess I was more pointing out that it was missing and wondering if you were going to add it or we should remove it from the solution. :) @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

StinkRay The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED 386	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:33:56 - [17] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Hey, Forked the GitHub project and tried to open in VS. However it's unable to open "..\EOPSetup\EOPSetup.vdproj" It seems you have the installer application added to the project but not in the same Git repo. :( I'm trying to gather us all on the same repo, and since I may slip out of this I'd prefer the old HG one :) Want access to the original bitbucket one? EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 152	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:36:13 - [18] - Quote Ahh ok. i'll probably remove it for now because I had no real luck with it. Seeing as StinkRay has resurfaced, I'm passing the reigns back to him. Though I need to learn how HG works. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 152	Posted - 2014.12.15 15:04:16 - [19] - Quote For those of you watching this thread, StinkRay opened a GIT repository on Bit bucket. To the person who sent a pull requset on Github (Takagamu?) I'm looking over your code now(-ish, I'm at work). CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Takagamu Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 4	Posted - 2014.12.16 11:16:47 - [20] - Quote Yeah it was me. No hurry, you can just take my code if it suits you and use it. I did it for the fun of doing it :D

Schmata Bastanold In Boobiez We Trust 2965	Posted - 2014.12.16 21:18:36 - [21] - Quote Great thingy guys! Invalid signature format
StinkRay The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED 391	Posted - 2014.12.19 19:45:01 - [22] - Quote Cool bean guys! But do make the pull requests etc to the BitBucket repo (sorry for the underdog git host usage ;) ) and we can take a look at it from there. EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher
StinkRay The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED 392	Posted - 2014.12.19 20:17:21 - [23] - Quote 1. Figure out why (and fix) the settings window loses focus so often. Most likely one or both of the timers calling a function. -- fixed. Will try and see if we can get a few more kinks fixed before releasing. EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 166	Posted - 2014.12.19 20:33:16 - [24] - Quote Updated the OP. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
StinkRay The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED 392	Posted - 2014.12.19 21:39:11 - [25] - Quote v1.18 https://bitbucket.org/ulph/eve-o-preview-git/downloads/eve-o-preview_v1_18.zip new feature; opacity settings + colors on setting window (dark grey) + preview do not so greedily steal focus EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher
StinkRay The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED 392	Posted - 2014.12.19 21:59:36 - [26] - Quote Just created channel eve-o-preview in game, if you want to praise/curse us face to face! EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher
StinkRay The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED 392	Posted - 2014.12.19 22:27:29 - [27] - Quote From the old thread Zekora Rally wrote: I've been using this for quite some time. I run 3 accts on one monitor and this allows me to monitor all the screens at once. The problem I have is that the previews overlap when I switch through all three. I always have to seperate them again or limit myself to switching between only two clients. If the moving around of previews is done, taking into account the fact the layout is unique per actual Eve client, you should be able to arrange them so this doesn't happen. However, I do see how the manual arrangement/re-sizing is a bit annoying. Auto arrangement / re-sizing, of some sort, is something I'd like us to explore at some point. EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 167	Posted - 2014.12.19 22:35:55 - [28] - Quote StinkRay wrote: From the old thread Zekora Rally wrote: I've been using this for quite some time. I run 3 accts on one monitor and this allows me to monitor all the screens at once. The problem I have is that the previews overlap when I switch through all three. I always have to seperate them again or limit myself to switching between only two clients. If the moving around of previews is done, taking into account the fact the layout is unique per actual Eve client, you should be able to arrange them so this doesn't happen. However, I do see how the manual arrangement/re-sizing is a bit annoying. Auto arrangement / re-sizing, of some sort, is something I'd like us to explore at some point. Agreed. I'll look into a bit. However with the holidays upon us all I probably won't have time to do much coding for any of my projects. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
ultimatefox02 Core Industry. Circle-Of-Two 0	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:17:35 - [29] - Quote i dont know if is me, but i can not open the V1.18 Signature du probl+¿me-á: Nom dGÇÖ+¬v+¬nement de probl+¿me:CLR20r3 Signature du probl+¿me 01:eve-o preview.exe Signature du probl+¿me 02:1.0.0.0 Signature du probl+¿me 03:54949a5b Signature du probl+¿me 04:System.Configuration Signature du probl+¿me 05:4.0.30319.34209 Signature du probl+¿me 06:53489a64 Signature du probl+¿me 07:27c Signature du probl+¿me 08:1c Signature du probl+¿me 09:IOIBMURHYNRXKW0ZXKYRVFN0BOYYUFOW Version du syst+¿me:6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48 Identificateur de param+¿tres r+¬gionaux:3084 Information suppl+¬mentaire n-¦-á1:ce2a Information suppl+¬mentaire n-¦-á2:ce2a410515165176b64ce0b3a8563984 Information suppl+¬mentaire n-¦-á3:e1fd Information suppl+¬mentaire n-¦-á4:e1fda9c8d81696559c983fbe940a1df2 Lire notre d+¬claration de confidentialit+¬ en ligne-á: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x040c Si la d+¬claration de confidentialit+¬ en ligne nGÇÖest pas disponible, lisez la version hors connexion-á: C:\Windows\system32\fr-FR\erofflps.txt and tank you for your job ,It is a good program I use it since v1.13 thanks
Rotineque Severasse Zedd. 8	Posted - 2014.12.23 01:01:00 - [30] - Quote when running two accounts, I click the preview to switch - it completes the switch however I loose the preview of the client I switched from. I can't then ever get back previews without removing the xml config files. Any ideas?

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 168	Posted - 2014.12.23 01:46:42 - [31] - Quote ultimatefox02: you may wish to try repairing your .NET framework or updating it http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=42643 Rotineque Severasse: first off, posting chat logs is against the forums rules. Don't want you to get in trouble. I'm sorry I missed you for the 2nd part of the convo. It's pretty hectic right before xmas. I probably won't get around to looking at it until the new year (StrinkRay is away for the holidays as well). Just in case the chat log gets removed I'll repaste your image file here: http://imgur.com/msvWmtq,QbqUU16 I will look into it, but probably not for a while. My guess is probably Win10 did something slightly different with something. But I don't have a copy installed anywhere to check. PS: FoxFour, you think you could get them to remove the "warning" for leaving the forums for the Microsoft official site? Seems kinda silly. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Rotineque Severasse Zedd. 8	Posted - 2014.12.23 08:55:57 - [32] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: Rotineque Severasse: first off, posting chat logs is against the forums rules. My mistake, corrected :) Thanks!
Mortvvs Snuff Box Snuffed Out 44	Posted - 2014.12.23 19:33:32 - [33] - Quote Since updating to v1.18 the character names on the overlays disappear when switching clients, playing around with the options changed nothing. They reappear when hovering over an overlay for long enough to trigger the zoom or by disabling and enabling "show overlay" manually. Any suggestions? FREE FILINGO
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 168	Posted - 2014.12.23 20:43:49 - [34] - Quote Mortvvs: I noticed this as well, I actually meant to put it as a "bug" in the OP. It is being looked into. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
SeneschaI Ordo Ministorum Violent Society 16	Posted - 2014.12.25 17:55:46 - [35] - Quote so...what does track client location mean
StinkRay The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED 392	Posted - 2014.12.28 13:42:35 - [36] - Quote it'll be a while until i am in front of a windows box with eve on it, but i have a notion the disappearing char names has to do with disabling the constant bringing the previews to front. Will have to redo that bit properly. Also there were complaints about the darker colors for the tool window, so will revert that change eventually as well. Thanks for you feedback! And merry xmas new years etc. EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher
StinkRay The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED 392	Posted - 2014.12.28 13:45:21 - [37] - Quote Makari; we better update the op flagging v1.18 as broken. There seem to be a few issues with it. EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 170	Posted - 2014.12.28 20:09:26 - [38] - Quote SeneschaI wrote: so...what does track client location mean Track client location means that, when checked, the program will remember the location of your EVE client positions and rearrange them accordingly when the program dectects the clients. For example, I have a few of my clients on my second monitor. EVE O Preview has that information stored so a few clients get automatically moved to the 2nd monitor. The setting itself is more useful when you have multiple monitors or massive HD monitors. I have a bit of time today before I gallivant off to more shenanigans, I will upload a bugfix version soonTM with the color revert. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 3787	Posted - 2014.12.28 22:44:41 - [39] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: SeneschaI wrote: so...what does track client location mean Track client location means that, when checked, the program will remember the location of your EVE client positions and rearrange them accordingly when the program dectects the clients. For example, I have a few of my clients on my second monitor. EVE O Preview has that information stored so a few clients get automatically moved to the 2nd monitor. The setting itself is more useful when you have multiple monitors or massive HD monitors. I have a bit of time today before I gallivant off to more shenanigans, I will upload a bugfix version soonTM with the color revert. Direct Download V1.18.1: V1.18.1 Or have OCD and want all your clients perfectly stacked on top of each other every time. :P @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 170	Posted - 2014.12.29 02:27:08 - [40] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Makari Aeron wrote: SeneschaI wrote: so...what does track client location mean Track client location means that, when checked, the program will remember the location of your EVE client positions and rearrange them accordingly when the program dectects the clients. For example, I have a few of my clients on my second monitor. EVE O Preview has that information stored so a few clients get automatically moved to the 2nd monitor. The setting itself is more useful when you have multiple monitors or massive HD monitors. I have a bit of time today before I gallivant off to more shenanigans, I will upload a bugfix version soonTM with the color revert. Direct Download V1.18.1: V1.18.1 Or have OCD and want all your clients perfectly stacked on top of each other every time. :P I was trying to keep my "problem" under wraps. At least I'm not the only one! CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 170	Posted - 2014.12.29 05:22:08 - [41] - Quote Version 1.18.2 has been released. It fixes the overlay text disppearing once the preview has been focused. The Win10 bug is still open as I do not possess a copy of Windows 10. After the holidays and I get myself an apartment I'll look into getting a copy of Win10 running on my old desktop and see if I can pin down the error there. My advice for the time being is to stick to fully released Operating Systems in case there is some "unintended feature" in the current Win10 beta code. V1.18.2 CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1521	Posted - 2014.12.29 12:56:37 - [42] - Quote I really like the track client location option! However, if you don't have monitors of the exact same size, it won't work, because it will successfully move the client, without altering the resolution. The window is then squeezed to fit inside the smaller screen, which is of course ugly (and hard to fix, because the actual cursor position won't match the mouse on screen). So.. Genious idea, but at the moment it is useless to me :) Edit: Also, still have this issue where switching too quickly, or switching to an EVE client by clicking the preview, while having a non-eve client focused... Successfully switches, but then one or more of the preview cease to be displayed, with only the preview name remaining without an actual preview below it. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 170	Posted - 2014.12.29 15:55:36 - [43] - Quote Window movement: that is Windows, not us. The way around that problem is to use either multiple client installs or symlinks so you can have multiple client sizes. Though I see your point. I'll see if we can save client sizes as well. Switching too quickly: when did this start? What version are you using? I recently made the overlay text always on top. I tested it for about an hour and didn't have any problems. Also, what OS are you using? CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Theron Estemaire Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1	Posted - 2015.01.02 08:38:28 - [44] - Quote Hello, apologies for the likely silly question, but do I need to be running the Eve clients in windowed mode for this to work? Works fine if in windowed mode, but in full screen the preview windows don't show up. Thanks
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 171	Posted - 2015.01.02 21:23:36 - [45] - Quote Yes, the clients must be in windowed mode. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
EclipseWay The Black Dynasty Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 0	Posted - 2015.01.02 23:27:12 - [46] - Quote i like this program but its having problems for me . When ever i click the box of a char this message pops"Unhandled exception has occured in your application.if you click continue.the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue.If you click quit,the application will close immediately.Access to path 'C://Windows/system32/layout.xml is denied.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 171	Posted - 2015.01.03 04:40:09 - [47] - Quote EclipleWay: for some reason your computer is trying to put the layout file in System32. Where did you place the program after you extracted it? Have you tried running the program as Administrator? CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Theron Estemaire Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1	Posted - 2015.01.03 05:44:28 - [48] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: Yes, the clients must be in windowed mode. Thanks
EclipseWay The Black Dynasty Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 0	Posted - 2015.01.03 11:02:14 - [49] - Quote Its in the download folder.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 172	Posted - 2015.01.03 19:19:04 - [50] - Quote You can extract the file to anywhere you wish. The location of the EXE file does not matter. Though, preferably a file where the program can write to the layout XMLs. Personally, I have mine in my CCP folder D:\Games\CCP. If you're running the program from inside your Programs Folder or Programs Folder (x86) be sure to run it as admin as Win7 and Win8/8.1 don't always like programs writing to Program Files. Makari Aeron wrote: How To Install & Use: 1. Download and extract the contents of the .zip archive to a location of your choice 2. Start up both EVE-O Preview and your EVE Clients (the order does not matter) 3. Adjust settings as you see fit CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 999	Posted - 2015.01.04 18:59:02 - [51] - Quote Good updates on this. Dragging window sizes are remembered. Yaay!!!!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 181	Posted - 2015.01.09 15:13:57 - [52] - Quote Direct Download What's New -- Version 1.18.3 Fixed the overlay text persisting after a client was closed (....again) Unless some unforeseen bug (re)appears, this will be the last update from me for a bit. Since I accepted a full-time position I must go look at apartments (been at my parents far too long for everyone's liking) and sadly that must take precedence. Hopefully by the end of the month I'll have time to dive back into the code for improvements and new features along side StinkRay. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Merida DunBrogh Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2015.01.11 13:34:09 - [53] - Quote Interesting thing happened, the previews work fine when completely logged in, but trying to use them while in the character select screen makes all the screens overlap. Which for me using it the first time was the place I was trying to get everything set up before actually heading into the game. Hope that will help anyone that might run into that problem.
Forlorn Wongraven Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 150	Posted - 2015.01.11 14:10:02 - [54] - Quote Very nice tool, helped me to stay sane in a 6h move ops with 4 capital accounts. ATXI winner, 3rd place ATXII - follow me on twitter: @ForlornW

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 3817	Posted - 2015.01.11 14:58:55 - [55] - Quote Merida DunBrogh wrote: Interesting thing happened, the previews work fine when completely logged in, but trying to use them while in the character select screen makes all the screens overlap. Which for me using it the first time was the place I was trying to get everything set up before actually heading into the game. Hope that will help anyone that might run into that problem. Yea, unfortunately the application reads the title of the window to know which to put where. Since at the character selection screen they are all called EVE, they get the same setting. You will need to be logged in before setting it up. Or, if really adventures, you can manually edit the layout file. @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 181	Posted - 2015.01.11 20:33:47 - [56] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Merida DunBrogh wrote: Interesting thing happened, the previews work fine when completely logged in, but trying to use them while in the character select screen makes all the screens overlap. Which for me using it the first time was the place I was trying to get everything set up before actually heading into the game. Hope that will help anyone that might run into that problem. Yea, unfortunately the application reads the title of the window to know which to put where. Since at the character selection screen they are all called EVE, they get the same setting. You will need to be logged in before setting it up. Or, if really adventures, you can manually edit the layout file. FoxFour is correct. I'm not sure there's a "better" way to do this and keep the simplicity of the program. But if anyone has ideas, I'm all ears. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Broke and Famous Test Alliance Please Ignore 6	Posted - 2015.01.13 14:02:45 - [57] - Quote Am using it fine whit two character and it wonder land for, :D GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Aiphona The Scope Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2015.01.15 23:03:09 - [58] - Quote Thanks guys for this awesome tool! I hope you will keep up the good work!
Castelo Selva Selva Brasil Moon Warriors 63	Posted - 2015.01.16 10:56:03 - [59] - Quote Hi Makari Aeron, Unfortunately, for some unknown reason (at least for me), even after update to net 4.52 I am still getting the same error as ultimatefox02. I am still using version 1.3 without problem, but I would like to upgrade to 1.8. And a big thank you for your time and efforts. Castelo ultimatefox02 wrote: i dont know if is me, but i can not open the V1.18 Signature du probl+¿me-á: Nom dGÇÖ+¬v+¬nement de probl+¿me:CLR20r3 Signature du probl+¿me 01:eve-o preview.exe Signature du probl+¿me 02:1.0.0.0 Signature du probl+¿me 03:54949a5b Signature du probl+¿me 04:System.Configuration Signature du probl+¿me 05:4.0.30319.34209 Signature du probl+¿me 06:53489a64 Signature du probl+¿me 07:27c Signature du probl+¿me 08:1c Signature du probl+¿me 09:IOIBMURHYNRXKW0ZXKYRVFN0BOYYUFOW Version du syst+¿me:6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48 Identificateur de param+¿tres r+¬gionaux:3084 Information suppl+¬mentaire n-¦-á1:ce2a Information suppl+¬mentaire n-¦-á2:ce2a410515165176b64ce0b3a8563984 Information suppl+¬mentaire n-¦-á3:e1fd Information suppl+¬mentaire n-¦-á4:e1fda9c8d81696559c983fbe940a1df2 Lire notre d+¬claration de confidentialit+¬ en ligne-á: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x040c Si la d+¬claration de confidentialit+¬ en ligne nGÇÖest pas disponible, lisez la version hors connexion-á: C:\Windows\system32\fr-FR\erofflps.txt and tank you for your job ,It is a good program I use it since v1.13 thanks the v1.17 work good
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 182	Posted - 2015.01.16 12:30:51 - [60] - Quote here are some solutions that I found while googling for "CLR20r3" --Try running as Administrator. --Do you happen to have Win7 Media Center installed? Try repairing or uninstalling/reinstalling it. --Try repairing your .NET framework. --Remove .NET 2.0 and have windows reinstall it CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Sir Crom C R O M 1	Posted - 2015.01.21 04:55:15 - [61] - Quote I just stumbled onto this program looking for anything I haven't tried to help multiboxing. This program is very nice for handling multiple accounts. I do ask, if not too much of a problem, to add the capability of adding not just EVE clients to the window list but Browsers, EFT, EVEMon among others. And the previous request for hotkey assignment to the windows would be very nice, I second the motion.... You all keep up the great work. It is appreciated very much.
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1028	Posted - 2015.01.21 23:40:36 - [62] - Quote Odd and completely random question. Will this work with Windows 10? Reason I'm asking is that half the planet may upgrade to it this year when its released, and wondering if this will work with it. Yaay!!!!
Leonis Perthshire Broke and Famous Test Alliance Please Ignore 7	Posted - 2015.01.22 02:29:40 - [63] - Quote Any update lately? GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 183	Posted - 2015.01.22 12:02:00 - [64] - Quote Not since 1.18.3. I'm in the process of moving into an apartment and adjusting to my new full-time position so anything I was working on has been put on hold until after the first weekend in February. I don't know StinkRay's plans. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 3904	Posted - 2015.01.22 12:23:46 - [65] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: Odd and completely random question. Will this work with Windows 10? Reason I'm asking is that half the planet may upgrade to it this year when its released, and wondering if this will work with it. I run it on Win10 at home. I have yet to update my home install to the newest version, but I don't think anything has changed that would cause it to not work. @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1028	Posted - 2015.01.22 13:37:59 - [66] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Phoenix Jones wrote: Odd and completely random question. Will this work with Windows 10? Reason I'm asking is that half the planet may upgrade to it this year when its released, and wondering if this will work with it. I run it on Win10 at home. I have yet to update my home install to the newest version, but I don't think anything has changed that would cause it to not work. Great. Microsofts offering it as a free upgrade to windows 7, and wanted to know if my new favorite program would work with it. Ty for the great work fellas. Yaay!!!!
Leonis Perthshire Broke and Famous Test Alliance Please Ignore 7	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:20:47 - [67] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Phoenix Jones wrote: Odd and completely random question. Will this work with Windows 10? Reason I'm asking is that half the planet may upgrade to it this year when its released, and wondering if this will work with it. I run it on Win10 at home. I have yet to update my home install to the newest version, but I don't think anything has changed that would cause it to not work. Great. Microsofts offering it as a free upgrade to windows 7, and wanted to know if my new favorite program would work with it. Ty for the great work fellas. Why not? GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1028	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:23:13 - [68] - Quote Maybe I understand the program wrong, but thought it used AERO to display the other screens. Wasn't sure if windows 10 would include it (think they switched to metro or something). I could be completely and totally wrong though. It did warrant the question as Microsoft tends to break everything every new OS release, and this would be considered a non-microsoft app. Yaay!!!!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 184	Posted - 2015.01.22 15:55:23 - [69] - Quote Well, it runs using C# and Window's DLLs. In theory it should work, I simply haven't had the time to install Win10 on my old desktop. In a few weeks when I move into my new apartment I'll install the OS and verify if this program works with the Win10 beta. Until then, I'd need confirmation via screenshots to mark it as "compatible". CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Minas93 0utLaw. Northern Coalition. 5	Posted - 2015.01.26 14:40:12 - [70] - Quote Do you know why the preview is all white? (Like this: http://clip2net.com/s/3bcl0Y2 ) http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Minas93

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 185	Posted - 2015.01.26 14:47:29 - [71] - Quote I have never seen that before. What OS are you using? What were you doing before it turned white? Have you tried running the program as Administrator? (Right-click-->Run As Adminstrator OR change it in the EXE's settings) CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Minas93 0utLaw. Northern Coalition. 5	Posted - 2015.01.26 14:50:50 - [72] - Quote Using Windows 7 Was always like that http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Minas93
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 185	Posted - 2015.01.26 15:00:12 - [73] - Quote Is your EVE client in Windowed or Fullscreen? Ths program does not function correctly if the client is in fullscreen. Is Windows AERO enabled? The bottom of the EVE-O Preview settings window should look like this if it is enabled: http://i.imgur.com/Gs2PusX.png EDIT: Ok, so from what I can gather so far 1. Start up EVE and the Preview, screen is white 2. using WIndows 7 CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1035	Posted - 2015.01.26 15:53:51 - [74] - Quote It looks like the resolution is set to 0/0. That or you have a multi desktop program running in the background (only thing I can think of that would mess with aero. Might be widgets also (start disabling programs and rerunning it). Oh it might be one other issue. From the taskbar, right kick one of the eve boxes, click "maximize". If that doesn't work, go to the task menu (Ctrl alt delete), find each eve instance, right click, bring to front. Ran into a issue where the eve game looked extremely squished in the window. That might fix it. Yaay!!!!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 185	Posted - 2015.01.26 15:58:34 - [75] - Quote I have read that some Stardock programs mess with Windows Aero. If you have any Stardock UI programs you might want to try disabling them. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Dirk MacGirk Specter Syndicate Tactical Narcotics Team 116	Posted - 2015.01.27 05:25:54 - [76] - Quote This is outstanding. It should be used as an exhibit of what Windows Management for EVE truly is.
GeeShizzle MacCloud 510	Posted - 2015.01.28 09:53:19 - [77] - Quote Awesome program! very customisable! and a great help in dealing with multiple clients! One possible feature request though, would be great if there was some auto stacking feature for client previews horizontally or vertically. either that or some kind of nudging feature so i dont spend 20+ frustrating minutes removing the 1 pixel gap between my borderless previews! :) not that im anal or anything!
Rotineque Severasse Zedd. 10	Posted - 2015.01.28 12:02:16 - [78] - Quote Seems Windows 10 is now working as intended when using Build 9926!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 186	Posted - 2015.01.28 12:07:13 - [79] - Quote GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote: Awesome program! very customisable! and a great help in dealing with multiple clients! One possible feature request though, would be great if there was some auto stacking feature for client previews horizontally or vertically. either that or some kind of nudging feature so i dont spend 20+ frustrating minutes removing the 1 pixel gap between my borderless previews! :) not that im anal or anything! I've been thinking about that for a while. Another way might be to include a togglable "move" checkbox for the borderless so that you can reposition them without having to switch to windowed and become frustrated with having to adjust blindly. Rotineque Severasse wrote: Seems Windows 10 is now working as intended when using Build 9926! Awesome. I'll mark it as possibly resolved. Hopefully in 2 weeks or so I'll get to run some of my own tests on Win10 to make sure everything is 100%. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Rotineque Severasse Zedd. 10	Posted - 2015.01.28 16:30:50 - [80] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: Rotineque Severasse wrote: Seems Windows 10 is now working as intended when using Build 9926! Awesome. I'll mark it as possibly resolved. Hopefully in 2 weeks or so I'll get to run some of my own tests on Win10 to make sure everything is 100%. There is one thing, I'm not to sure if it applies to just Windows 10. If I switch using EVE-O it remembers the size of the window, however if I minimize the window and bring it up using eve-o its not remembering the window size.

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 189	Posted - 2015.01.28 17:19:26 - [81] - Quote Rotineque Severasse wrote: Makari Aeron wrote: Rotineque Severasse wrote: Seems Windows 10 is now working as intended when using Build 9926! Awesome. I'll mark it as possibly resolved. Hopefully in 2 weeks or so I'll get to run some of my own tests on Win10 to make sure everything is 100%. There is one thing, I'm not to sure if it applies to just Windows 10. If I switch using EVE-O it remembers the size of the window, however if I minimize the window and bring it up using eve-o its not remembering the window size. I haven't had that problem myself with Win8.1. I'll give it a try when I get home from work. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
gr ant Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion 50	Posted - 2015.02.03 20:36:06 - [82] - Quote The previews wont unstack, when moved they move together
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 189	Posted - 2015.02.04 12:12:12 - [83] - Quote gr ant wrote: The previews wont unstack, when moved they move together Have you logged into the accounts first? Because of how the program works, it takes the window title to manipulate the eve clients. As such, if you're not logged in, all the windows have the same window title. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
gr ant Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion 50	Posted - 2015.02.05 01:29:52 - [84] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: gr ant wrote: The previews wont unstack, when moved they move together Have you logged into the accounts first? Because of how the program works, it takes the window title to manipulate the eve clients. As such, if you're not logged in, all the windows have the same window title. yeah, that works. I was just messing around with it on the loggin screen, didn't think about trying it logged in :( thanks though, works GREAT
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 189	Posted - 2015.02.12 12:40:20 - [85] - Quote Alrighty folks, I've moved into my new apartment (mostly) and I'm going to start going through the sugguestions/todo list. No promises to timeframe, but know that I'm back to working on it! CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Gruttz Catastrophic Overview Failure Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:45:14 - [86] - Quote Hi there, I was just wondering if this will work with 1 Eve account and 1 Steam Eve account? Thanks :)
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 190	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:58:08 - [87] - Quote i haven't tested it and you're free to do so and let me know your findings. Though I suspect you should be fine. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Gruttz Catastrophic Overview Failure Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2015.02.13 19:19:41 - [88] - Quote OK cool, i will give it a try when i get on a bit later. I will let you know how it goes.
Gruttz Catastrophic Overview Failure Brave Collective 1	Posted - 2015.02.14 11:42:14 - [89] - Quote Hey there, Just a quick post to confirm that this works great with 1 Eve account and 1 Steam Eve account Great Work
Kossaw Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 120	Posted - 2015.02.15 10:53:20 - [90] - Quote Just Discovered this ( well, got pointed at it by a buddy ) Thanks, guys this simple app makes life SO much easier WTB : An image in my signature

GeeShizzle MacCloud 512	Posted - 2015.02.15 12:52:55 - [91] - Quote hey! i know ive posted in here about how awesome eve-o previewer is (basically because it is awesome!) was wondering if you could look through the code of keeping the preview windows on top of other windows vs not, as ive been having issues with the windows not behaving themselves in these instances. i had the option checked until recently changing it, now i have the option unchecked but sometimes one of the preview windows keeps itself on top until i click the preview window to select the active client and then bring the non eve client window back up. anyway thank you for a great product!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 192	Posted - 2015.02.15 18:19:33 - [92] - Quote I'll see what I can do. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 12	Posted - 2015.02.15 18:37:00 - [93] - Quote GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote: hey! i know ive posted in here about how awesome eve-o previewer is (basically because it is awesome!) was wondering if you could look through the code of keeping the preview windows on top of other windows vs not, as ive been having issues with the windows not behaving themselves in these instances. i had the option checked until recently changing it, now i have the option unchecked but sometimes one of the preview windows keeps itself on top until i click the preview window to select the active client and then bring the non eve client window back up. anyway thank you for a great product! I see that windows like a really functional way to keep viewing what it happening while you enjoy the internet of things. of course would be good and extra option in the setting for doze that don't like this. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
HomigoshZur Reikoku Pandemic Legion 0	Posted - 2015.02.19 06:35:53 - [94] - Quote Sir Crom wrote: And the previous request for hotkey assignment to the windows would be very nice, I second the motion.... I thought that would be nice too, so I added some very basic support for hotkeys. I don't have access to the repo, but there should be a new version out soon. If not, feel free to bug me for an updated .exe (stranger danger!)
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 192	Posted - 2015.02.19 12:26:29 - [95] - Quote Thanks! StinkRay and I plan to check it out in a few hours. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Immortal Chrono Pimpin Anime Masters Verge of Collapse 121	Posted - 2015.02.19 19:40:00 - [96] - Quote Click forwarding on the window so we can chat/activate mods without having to open the game window. Obv don't broadcast the keys to all clients tho as that would be an exploit, Just the preview window you are clicking on.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 192	Posted - 2015.02.19 19:44:39 - [97] - Quote I'd want to get that clarified by a Dev or GM. That sounds like a gray area, I prefer to aviod that so people don't get banned. CCP FoxFour, thoughts? CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1079	Posted - 2015.02.19 19:55:46 - [98] - Quote Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote: Click forwarding on the window so we can chat/activate mods without having to open the game window. Obv don't broadcast the keys to all clients tho as that would be an exploit, Just the preview window you are clicking on. I'd honestly avoid all types of hotkeys, mouse overs, windowed key passthroughs, etc. I understand the need to make the program bigger and better, but ultimately it should stay and remain as a preview window, not a method of assisting ships to do other jobs by using key passthroughs and avoiding the need to switch windows. Sometimes simple is the right option. Yaay!!!!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 192	Posted - 2015.02.19 20:06:56 - [99] - Quote I'm not really a fan of the key passthroughs myself. I do kinda like hotkey for window switching if you don't want the preview function (or if you want both). CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1079	Posted - 2015.02.19 20:33:24 - [100] - Quote Don't see the window switch as a problem. Yaay!!!!

Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 30641	Posted - 2015.02.24 09:23:23 - [101] - Quote I think it's time to give this a try. I'm looking forward to it. this bit of work is excellent. o7 Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6548	Posted - 2015.02.27 16:36:33 - [102] - Quote HomigoshZur wrote: Sir Crom wrote: And the previous request for hotkey assignment to the windows would be very nice, I second the motion.... I thought that would be nice too, so I added some very basic support for hotkeys. I don't have access to the repo, but there should be a new version out soon. If not, feel free to bug me for an updated .exe (stranger danger!) Hotkeys to switch to window #1, window#2 etc would be excellent and a nice way to check your handy scouts etc ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears. Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 195	Posted - 2015.02.27 16:55:23 - [103] - Quote Yep! Hotkeys are in the works as well as a reimplementation of the minimize to tray option. I'll see if I can work some more this weekend, but I'm travelling for work soon and I don't know how much time I'll have for a bit. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Subsparx Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 43	Posted - 2015.03.04 07:05:19 - [104] - Quote So I'm trying to do a weird use case scenario. I have one primary client on multiple screens, then 5 other clients running windowed. I want to do two things. 1) I want to use save location but this causes issues with the primary client, so I need to rename the EXE for the multibox clients. 1) I only want the teamspeak overlay to run on the primary client, so I have to rename the EXE. I've renamed the exe file to exefilemulti.exe. This works fine for fixing the overlay from appearing on multiple clients and wasting resources. However, I've downloaded the source for this program and can't seem to figure out where in the code it's referencing looking for exefile.exe, as I simply need to change that to looking for exefilemulti.exe and then I just need to update that file every time the game gets patched to achieve what I want. Where is this located? CEO of Crimson Serpent Syndicate - www.crimsonserpent.com Chairman of Heiian Conglomerate - www.heiian.com Owner of FWC - www.factionwarfare.com
Mortvvs Snuff Box Snuffed Out 44	Posted - 2015.03.10 22:09:19 - [105] - Quote Starting with todays patch, whenever I have previewer running and launch a client, it gets downsized so hard you can't actually open it anymore. [url]http://puu.sh/gv0Po/ae25502e15.jpg[/url] Right side is account launched before launching eve previewer, left side is account launched afterwards, it's not possible to view the downsized client in any other way. I've had this problem in the past a few times, but it only happened after selecting a character on the login screen and you could fix it by setting the client to full screen, logging the character in and then setting it to windowed again. This time it happens immediately, but only if eve previewer is running at the same time. I'd be glad for any suggestions, as it is a tiny bit annoying when needing to switch characters quickly. Edit: just as I posted this it magically fixed itself. FREE FILINGO
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1140	Posted - 2015.03.11 01:24:32 - [106] - Quote Ctrl alt delete, click on each eve clients, click maximum or make full screen. It'll fix that. Yaay!!!!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 210	Posted - 2015.03.11 14:19:14 - [107] - Quote I've never actually seen this. When I get back from my business trip overseas I'll see what I can do..but nothing until this weekend as I don't get back until late tomorrow. EDIT: try unchecking "track client locations" and see what happens CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Mortvvs Snuff Box Snuffed Out 44	Posted - 2015.03.11 15:21:07 - [108] - Quote Nothing happens, as I can't reproduce the bug :) FREE FILINGO
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 210	Posted - 2015.03.11 15:27:55 - [109] - Quote Damn. Well, I'll keep my eye out just in case. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Mortvvs Snuff Box Snuffed Out 44	Posted - 2015.03.17 13:06:16 - [110] - Quote It happened again and turning off "track client locations" fixed it. Don't need it anyway for a single screen. FREE FILINGO

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 211	Posted - 2015.03.17 14:26:15 - [111] - Quote Thanks, good to know. I'll try to find out in the code why it's doing that. As for updates, I'll do my best. Work just got REALLY hectic along with some other IRL stuff. I'll do my best to update the program but seeing as fanfest is soon I'll be watching that. Not sorry about that last part :P But seriously, I need to work on this more. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 14	Posted - 2015.03.17 23:07:18 - [112] - Quote Might be implementing a log system on the app or a error reporting system so you could keep an aye on all this, GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
ashley Eoner 463	Posted - 2015.03.22 06:25:59 - [113] - Quote Is this bannable now? In the fanfest presentation I watched they said Quote: "You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the game environment or change how the game is played" and this certainly changes how the game appears and is played. I like the window management I just would like to make sure it's not illegal too.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 212	Posted - 2015.03.23 12:09:37 - [114] - Quote ashley Eoner wrote: Is this bannable now? In the fanfest presentation I watched they said Quote: "You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the game environment or change how the game is played" and this certainly changes how the game appears and is played. I like the window management I just would like to make sure it's not illegal too. CCP FoxFour was the one who provided the code for the window arrangement. and client size CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1175	Posted - 2015.03.23 13:26:00 - [115] - Quote ashley Eoner wrote: Is this bannable now? In the fanfest presentation I watched they said Quote: "You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the game environment or change how the game is played" and this certainly changes how the game appears and is played. I like the window management I just would like to make sure it's not illegal too. Doesn't modify the ingame client, nor does it change how the game appears or is played. Its pretty much a overlay window that the OS can provide (monitor emulation). There is no direct changes or inputs that program can provide ingame. Its a weird dance. Yaay!!!!

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 3945	Posted - 2015.03.23 13:38:30 - [116] - Quote Hey guys, After reading a few of the last posts and the concern about this piece of software being allowed or not, I went and had a chat with our security guys. They have confirmed this is totally acceptable, nothing has changed. :) Fly safe. @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

Rotineque Severasse Zedd. 10	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:54:12 - [117] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Hey guys, After reading a few of the last posts and the concern about this piece of software being allowed or not, I went and had a chat with our security guys. They have confirmed this is totally acceptable, nothing has changed. :) Fly safe. Thanks for taking the time to confirm this FoxFour <3
ashley Eoner 463	Posted - 2015.03.23 20:03:01 - [118] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: ashley Eoner wrote: Is this bannable now? In the fanfest presentation I watched they said Quote: "You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the game environment or change how the game is played" and this certainly changes how the game appears and is played. I like the window management I just would like to make sure it's not illegal too. Doesn't modify the ingame client, nor does it change how the game appears or is played. Its pretty much a overlay window that the OS can provide (monitor emulation). There is no direct changes or inputs that program can provide ingame. Its a weird dance. Neither does isboxer's VideoFX but it was held up as an example of something bannable. Videofx only works because of Windows DWM thumbnails and I thought this program was using the same concept.
l0rd carlos TURN DOWN. The Camel Empire 1192	Posted - 2015.03.23 20:13:14 - [119] - Quote You can't interact with eve through the previews. You can with isboxer. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com
ashley Eoner 463	Posted - 2015.03.23 22:07:25 - [120] - Quote l0rd carlos wrote: You can't interact with eve through the previews. You can with isboxer. No you can with window's DWM... It's a built in function of the OS itself.

Sir Crom C R O M 2	Posted - 2015.03.24 02:11:48 - [121] - Quote Hey I have another input that I would love to see implemented into the program. Saving screen and loadout positions of the overviews and screen sizes so if I want to use lets say a 1 big and 4 preview side setup, then later want to use a 1 big, 4 previews on bottom. it could easily be swapped from one setup to other. And for sake of editing just make the XML files save in a subdirectory of the main program then you just have to point the program to a directory... I hope I explained it well enough for all to understand... Right now to accomplish this buy having 2 installs in differnent directories..... P.S. I have multiple monitors and use my laptop and desktop at times...
Rosewalker Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 164	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:10:10 - [122] - Quote ashley Eoner wrote: Phoenix Jones wrote: ashley Eoner wrote: Is this bannable now? In the fanfest presentation I watched they said Quote: "You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the game environment or change how the game is played" and this certainly changes how the game appears and is played. I like the window management I just would like to make sure it's not illegal too. Doesn't modify the ingame client, nor does it change how the game appears or is played. Its pretty much a overlay window that the OS can provide (monitor emulation). There is no direct changes or inputs that program can provide ingame. Its a weird dance. Neither does isboxer's VideoFX but it was held up as an example of something bannable. Videofx only works because of Windows DWM thumbnails and I thought this program was using the same concept. You are looking at the technology and not how it is used. With ISBoxer, elements of multiple clients can be mashed together to make a "custom client". That is what is objectionable. As far as I know, you can't do that with EVE-O Preview. Or has it changed since I last looked at it? The Nosy Gamer - CCP Random: "hehe, falls under the category: nice try, but no. ;)"
Nolak Ataru KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 795	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:30:20 - [123] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: ashley Eoner wrote: Is this bannable now? In the fanfest presentation I watched they said Quote: "You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the game environment or change how the game is played" and this certainly changes how the game appears and is played. I like the window management I just would like to make sure it's not illegal too. Doesn't modify the ingame client, nor does it change how the game appears or is played. Its pretty much a overlay window that the OS can provide (monitor emulation). There is no direct changes or inputs that program can provide ingame. Its a weird dance. ISboxer uses the same software that is used here, and it was ruled in violation of 6A2 so by extension this program is in violation of the EULA as well. However, we're seeing the exact same thing occur here that happened with T20;namely, CCP priviledge in protecting someone or something that is violating the EULA. I wonder if ISBoxer was banned as a means of eliminating competition, because Team Security was grasping at straws when they said VideoFX modified the client. Pro Tip: it doesn't. It uses Aero and DWM, neither of which CCP owns or holds a controlling interest in.
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1196	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:34:29 - [124] - Quote Except ISboxer wasn't banned. Input broadcasting and multiplexing was. You can use ISboxer just as you use this program. You just can't use the broadcasting function or the key duplication function of ISboxer. Eve previewed has none (hell there isn't even a hotkey function for view switching in it). Yaay!!!!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 212	Posted - 2015.03.24 16:02:19 - [125] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Hey guys, After reading a few of the last posts and the concern about this piece of software being allowed or not, I went and had a chat with our security guys. They have confirmed this is totally acceptable, nothing has changed. :) Fly safe. Guys. FoxFour talked with the security folks. According to him everything is allowed that this program does. While I appreciate the discussion and activity in this thread (which encourages me to find more time to work on this program), it's over something the devs have said isn't an issue. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Nolak Ataru KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 795	Posted - 2015.03.24 20:04:26 - [126] - Quote I'd believe that if we didn't just have a 5-boxer who was not using any sort of broadcasting get banned. Additionally, there is no part of the EULA that talks about commands being sent to certain clients. There was a kerfluffle over the usage of a KVM switch some time ago which was ruled legal. ISBoxer is nothing more than a software-based KVM switch.
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2015.04.05 20:12:31 - [127] - Quote Al right this is my serious request. The app is awesome great an everything but it would be cool a trick on it to allow run character from the same account at one time. Currently only allow to run one character of each account. please please please. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Cat Harkness Twilight Labs 36	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:41:07 - [128] - Quote Leonis Perthshire wrote: Al right this is my serious request. The app is awesome great an everything but it would be cool a trick on it to allow run character from the same account at one time. Currently only allow to run one character of each account. please please please. Since you can only log-in with one character on an account at a time I do not see a problem. Unless I am missing something?
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2015.04.06 03:20:47 - [129] - Quote Cat Harkness wrote: Leonis Perthshire wrote: Al right this is my serious request. The app is awesome great an everything but it would be cool a trick on it to allow run character from the same account at one time. Currently only allow to run one character of each account. please please please. Since you can only log-in with one character on an account at a time I do not see a problem. Unless I am missing something? Might be am not explaining good. this is not a problem of the this app, but of the eve luncher. that don't allow you or me in this case to use 1 account two character or the same account. isbox by pass this by creating like virtual machine. would be cool that this app would allow the same. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 214	Posted - 2015.04.06 14:11:54 - [130] - Quote I'm sorry, I'm not following. I wasn't aware you could use more than one character per account at one time. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2015.04.07 03:37:18 - [131] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: I'm sorry, I'm not following. I wasn't aware you could use more than one character per account at one time. Yes whit isboxer but I don't wanna pay. Am bad. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
ashley Eoner 470	Posted - 2015.04.08 10:28:12 - [132] - Quote Leonis Perthshire wrote: Makari Aeron wrote: I'm sorry, I'm not following. I wasn't aware you could use more than one character per account at one time. Yes whit isboxer but I don't wanna pay. Am bad. No you can't.
Cat Harkness Twilight Labs 36	Posted - 2015.04.08 22:08:31 - [133] - Quote When you log on with a second character from the same account, the first one will get disconnected.
Jessie Jackson DeepSpace Resources DeepSpace. 0	Posted - 2015.04.09 21:24:52 - [134] - Quote I am having a problem getting a set-up going similar to the "Four clients in a sidebar" example. The problem is, the previews only show up when the clients are minimised. As soon as I click one to make that client active, the preview disappears. The only way I can get the previews to show on screen is to minimise each client. I have the Previews always on top checked, and do NOT have hide preview of active eve client checked. Also, I am running windows 8.1. Any help would be appreciated, I would love to use this to manage my clients! This is a great project!
Nolak Ataru KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 819	Posted - 2015.04.10 20:33:18 - [135] - Quote 6. CONDUCT A. Specifically Restricted Conduct 2. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played.
Bluntmasta DeepSpace Resources DeepSpace. 0	Posted - 2015.04.10 21:20:52 - [136] - Quote Nolak Ataru wrote: 6. CONDUCT A. Specifically Restricted Conduct 2. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. Bud, you really need to get over it. Isboxer's functions have been neutered. Either adapt, or quit. Looking at your previous posts, you seem to be obsessed with the whole Isboxer thing.
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2015.04.10 21:35:34 - [137] - Quote Nolak Ataru wrote: 6. CONDUCT A. Specifically Restricted Conduct 2. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. This app and isboxer dont brame the laws. In common sense any app that auto send clicks to different clients aren't allow. Both app you have to give click and instruction to control your ship(s). If you read up you will see CCP was in this post contributing in a way showing that is not illegal app. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 3973	Posted - 2015.04.12 09:15:35 - [138] - Quote Please keep the discussion on topic. The legitimacy of this software has already been discussed and doesn't need to be again. Assuming the functionality of the software doesn't change, it is allowed in its current state. @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.


CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 3973	Posted - 2015.04.12 09:16:21 - [139] - Quote Jessie Jackson wrote: I am having a problem getting a set-up going similar to the "Four clients in a sidebar" example. The problem is, the previews only show up when the clients are minimised. As soon as I click one to make that client active, the preview disappears. The only way I can get the previews to show on screen is to minimise each client. I have the Previews always on top checked, and do NOT have hide preview of active eve client checked. Also, I am running windows 8.1. Any help would be appreciated, I would love to use this to manage my clients! This is a great project! EDIT I figured it out. It was teamviewer. I forgot I had it running in the background. Once I closed teamviewer, all is well. Thanks for the great program! Interesting. Thanks for coming back and letting us know you figured it out. This is good to know. @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

Nolak Ataru KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 821	Posted - 2015.04.12 13:16:01 - [140] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Please keep the discussion on topic. The legitimacy of this software has already been discussed and doesn't need to be again. Assuming the functionality of the software doesn't change, it is allowed in its current state. It specifically violates 6A2, client modification. Is CCP going down the path of T20 where "anything we do is ok" is allowed again? This is a very serious issue for CCP after they just banned a 5-boxer who was not using broadcasting tools from ISBoxer to play. If the player was using EVE-O Preview, can you honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that he would have been banned?

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 214	Posted - 2015.04.12 16:51:08 - [141] - Quote Hey folks. I'll look into your issues soon. I'm on vacation currently. I do apologize for not fixing the present bugs and help9ng with support recently. Life has been hectic in the last month. I will try to troubleshoot tomorrow while at work. Thanks for your understanding and tank you Fox Four for settling the legality discussion again. I need to edit the OP with links to you and the dev blog. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
GeeShizzle MacCloud 587	Posted - 2015.04.12 16:53:13 - [142] - Quote Nolak Ataru wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Please keep the discussion on topic. The legitimacy of this software has already been discussed and doesn't need to be again. Assuming the functionality of the software doesn't change, it is allowed in its current state. It specifically violates 6A2, client modification. Is CCP going down the path of T20 where "anything we do is ok" is allowed again? This is a very serious issue for CCP after they just banned a 5-boxer who was not using broadcasting tools from ISBoxer to play. If the player was using EVE-O Preview, can you honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that he would have been banned? From what i understand it he was using isboxer to create multiple snapshot sections of the client that he could arrange in whatever form he wanted to in order to make using 5 clients extremely efficient in the screen space he has. He can use those windows to click on small parts of each client. this is considered modification of the client because you're breaking up the client window into segments that you can rearrange in whatever way you want. Eve-O Previewer does not allow you to click through the new windows you create in order to control the client, it merely gives you a truncated view of the client and the ability to click it to make that client the active client on your screen. its a very very distinct difference, and if you cannot get your head around it then i don't know what else i can say to make it more clear to you.
Nolak Ataru KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 821	Posted - 2015.04.12 20:20:41 - [143] - Quote 1) If making VideoFX windows was indeed banned, CCP would be attempting to police the usage of your operating system and it's features as VideoFX utilizes Windows Aero to function. 2) There is no part of the speech that targets VideoFX. 3) 6A2 is very specific in it's wording. Any modification. 4) You can already move stuff around on your UI / HUD, and you can resize your .exe window any way you want. 5) CCP cannot selectively enforce their EULA for program X over program Y without harking back to the days of T20. Nobody wants that.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 214	Posted - 2015.04.13 01:49:35 - [144] - Quote OK So here's the deal. EVE O Preview does NOT send any commends of any kind to the EVE client. It only uses Windows commands to make the EVE window the active window. It can resize the client window and re-position it which CCP said was perfectly fine. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Nolak Ataru KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 823	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:22:59 - [145] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: OK So here's the deal. EVE O Preview does NOT send any commends of any kind to the EVE client. It only uses Windows commands to make the EVE window the active window. It can resize the client window and re-position it which CCP said was perfectly fine. It doesn't need to send commands if it arguably violates 6A2 as we're getting banned for nothing already. e: And ISBoxer uses OS-Level commands as well. You're presenting the exact same arguments defending EVE-O Preview that I used or am using to defend ISBoxer. Let that sink in.
l0rd carlos TURN DOWN. The Camel Empire 1195	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:27:48 - [146] - Quote Nolak Ataru can you please open or use another thread? It's getting harder to help other users from this software if a lot of the new posts are about Isboxer users getting banned. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4305	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:07:48 - [147] - Quote I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. The Rules: 11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited. Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff. 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 214	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:42:32 - [148] - Quote Alrighty, I've gotten back to troubleshooting some of the reported bugs. I've yet to pin them down, but I will keep looking. I don't think I"ll be implementing the "new" save system as it's causing some headaches but I definitely want to get "Minimize to system tray" as well as the "hotkey switching" done soonTM. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:38:47 - [149] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: Alrighty, I've gotten back to troubleshooting some of the reported bugs. I've yet to pin them down, but I will keep looking. I don't think I"ll be implementing the "new" save system as it's causing some headaches but I definitely want to get "Minimize to system tray" as well as the "hotkey switching" done soonTM. Hey men i dont know how to say but thanks for this app. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Lee Sin Priest Republic University Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2015.05.01 18:05:11 - [150] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Please keep the discussion on topic. The legitimacy of this software has already been discussed and doesn't need to be again. Assuming the functionality of the software doesn't change, it is allowed in its current state. Assuming one were to use ISBoxer to do the exact same features EVE-O uses and no other features, would you still get banned for using ISBoxer in that fashion? E: Also very cool to have a legal windows management tool i can use without having to worry, much thanks

Brockren Forging Industries Silent Infinity 4	Posted - 2015.05.02 17:37:11 - [151] - Quote Source http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/keyboard-shortcuts#keyboard-shortcuts=windows-7 Here are a couple easy to use keyboard shortcuts I use for switching between clients. Windows logo key +T - Cycle through programs on the taskbar + enter or spacebar to select. (Not my ideal way) Alt+Esc - Cycle through items in the order in which they were opened ( I use this when eve clients are the only windows I have open means I can cycle through the clients quickly) Windows logo key + number key - Start the program pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number. If the program is already running, switch to that program. ( window key+1 opens/switches to first pinned icon on my taskbar. if you pin your eve clients to the taskbar in specific # positions they will always be same numbers. I use when I have multiple windows open besides eve or I need to switch immediately to a specific client without cycling through windows)
Lee Sin Priest Republic University Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2015.05.02 19:05:17 - [152] - Quote I like the taskbar tweaker Just got a response from a ticket saying 3rd party programs are a no no, is this program still legal?
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1307	Posted - 2015.05.02 19:46:06 - [153] - Quote Lee Sin Priest wrote: I like the taskbar tweaker Just got a response from a ticket saying 3rd party programs are a no no, is this program still legal? Client modifications and automations are a no no. This doesn't modify the client, there is no automation, replication, keystroke tracking etc etc. Reread the entire forum post if your concerned and it should clarify it. Ccp chimed in on it. Yaay!!!!
Lee Sin Priest Republic University Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2015.05.02 23:24:23 - [154] - Quote No i understand the rules and have read the thread, including CCP foxfours statements, however the ticket response made it sound like everything was illegal That being said, it was a copy paste response i have seen before regarding any question to do with multiboxing so...we'll have to see
Bluntmasta DeepSpace Resources DeepSpace. 0	Posted - 2015.05.04 07:38:13 - [155] - Quote Lee Sin Priest wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Please keep the discussion on topic. The legitimacy of this software has already been discussed and doesn't need to be again. Assuming the functionality of the software doesn't change, it is allowed in its current state. Assuming one were to use ISBoxer to do the exact same features EVE-O uses and no other features, would you still get banned for using ISBoxer in that fashion? E: Also very cool to have a legal windows management tool i can use without having to worry, much thanks E2: Used it a little, enjoying it so far, give me hotkeys to swap clients and I'd be ready to drop my pants. Yet to find any real issues, however for different setups ive resorted to having multiple folders of the program This is honestly getting ridiculous. If you use isboxer to do the same things as this program, you are all good. If you use isboxer to click a button and activate modules on multiple clients, you are banned. It is very, very, very simple. In fact there is a sticky in general discussion that CLEARLY states what is ok, and what is not. The fact that people are still "confused" by this is mind boggling. READ THE STICKY!!! CCP Falcon wrote: Input Broadcasting & Input Multiplexing Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing refer to the multiplication of inputs, actions and events to multiple instances of the game. Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing of actions with consequences in the EVE universe, are prohibited and will be policed in the same manner as Input Automation. This includes, but isnGÇÖt limited to: GÇóActivation and control of ships and modules GÇóNavigation and movement within the EVE universe GÇóMovement of assets and items within the EVE universe GÇóInteraction with other characters [/i] TLDR: This program is 100% LEGAL. Period. End of discussion. ISBOXER is LEGAL if you do not use Input broadcasting/multiplexing. (i.e. no 1 click or button to affect more than 1 client at the same time)
Lee Sin Priest Republic University Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2015.05.04 10:26:27 - [156] - Quote put in a ticket asking whether Eve-0 is legal and you'll get a confusing answer that says nothing is legal I read the sticky post, and i understand it, it however does not state that the spirit of the law was to remove certain play, which included a bunch of features not showing up on the list you mentioned And the reason this keeps getting asked, even though it is "clear" to any sane person reading it, is because CCP has to cover their ass when it comes to legal matters such as the EULA, probably why they're still handing out copy paste tickets so we'll see E: also there is a margin of error when it comes to bans People are scared of running Eve with ISBoxer because if people mass petition them they're worried they will get banned
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5575	Posted - 2015.05.05 07:01:09 - [157] - Quote From what I can tell from what's officially being said, FoxFour was out of line when he stated that this software was legal to use (as they have stated that the never sanction the use of software). I'm still trying to get clarification, but I wouldn't hold my breath for an answer. Even though this software has a dev on it's credits and a clear statement claiming it's legal to use, they'll still probably slap a ban on you if you are deemed "too efficient" whatever that is. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 228	Posted - 2015.05.05 11:23:30 - [158] - Quote I am working on getting the hotkeys into the program as well as the bug fixes. Life has thrown me shoulder surgery so it's been a bit hectic (and expensive). No promises on the ETA. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 16	Posted - 2015.05.07 04:05:29 - [159] - Quote Well this app the only thing it do is an kind of Multiboxing nothing else nothing more. The rest have to be done by the user by clicking no automation no Input Broadcasting & Input Multiplexing which is band. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 4009	Posted - 2015.05.07 12:58:26 - [160] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: I am working on getting the hotkeys into the program as well as the bug fixes. Life has thrown me shoulder surgery so it's been a bit hectic (and expensive). No promises on the ETA. Thank you for your continued effort :) @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.


Ssoraszh Tzarszh Eschelon Directive Universal Consortium 78	Posted - 2015.05.09 00:02:19 - [161] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: I am working on getting the hotkeys into the program as well as the bug fixes. Life has thrown me shoulder surgery so it's been a bit hectic (and expensive). No promises on the ETA. Having gone through a similar shoulder related thingymabob last year, i can only wish you the best of best wishes and I hope you will heal soon from the surgery. Thanks for devoting as much time to this as you have. o7
Lee Sin Priest Republic University Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2015.05.10 13:20:07 - [162] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Makari Aeron wrote: I am working on getting the hotkeys into the program as well as the bug fixes. Life has thrown me shoulder surgery so it's been a bit hectic (and expensive). No promises on the ETA. Thank you for your continued effort :) If hotkeys are added will the program still be usable according to the EULA?
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 232	Posted - 2015.05.11 13:57:59 - [163] - Quote Lee Sin Priest wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Makari Aeron wrote: I am working on getting the hotkeys into the program as well as the bug fixes. Life has thrown me shoulder surgery so it's been a bit hectic (and expensive). No promises on the ETA. Thank you for your continued effort :) If hotkeys are added will the program still be usable according to the EULA? I don't see why not. The hotkeys would be talking to the EVE-O Preview program and not EVE itself. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Lee Sin Priest Republic University Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2015.05.12 01:57:17 - [164] - Quote Figured itd be worth to check, assumption has lead to bans before
Satina Valor House of Valor Distributions 1	Posted - 2015.05.19 13:27:03 - [165] - Quote Sir Crom wrote: I just stumbled onto this program looking for anything I haven't tried to help multiboxing. This program is very nice for handling multiple accounts. I do ask, if not too much of a problem, to add the capability of adding not just EVE clients to the window list but Browsers, EFT, EVEMon among others. And the previous request for hotkey assignment to the windows would be very nice, I second the motion.... You all keep up the great work. It is appreciated very much. Hi, this is a great tool and i would also like to know if adding the ability to choose other running applications is a possible future feature? I know this is a little bit out of scope but could help a lot managing many windows with videos, chat and other changing content, while using only 1 or 2 monitors. This could especially benefit streamers...just saying
Madbuster73 C.Q.B Snuffed Out 139	Posted - 2015.05.20 22:07:36 - [166] - Quote This Application is a lifesaver!! Thank you very much for creating and sharing this with us!
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 16	Posted - 2015.06.02 13:23:23 - [167] - Quote Might be whit the new update it will need some sort of update also. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 233	Posted - 2015.06.02 16:32:25 - [168] - Quote It shouldn't unless CCP changed how they do the window titles. I got back home two days ago and am readjusting to work after surgery. Once I get back into the swing of things, I'll return to working on this program. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 16	Posted - 2015.06.04 21:03:13 - [169] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: It shouldn't unless CCP changed how they do the window titles. I got back home two days ago and am readjusting to work after surgery. Once I get back into the swing of things, I'll return to working on this program. Ups, godsspeed. one recommendation. would be good so to recognize which window is enable like a yellow line around the current enable preview window. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 233	Posted - 2015.06.05 11:38:44 - [170] - Quote I can do that soonish I hope. Typing is still a bit of a pain so I have been using all that energy at work. That shouldn't be too big of a feature to implement. Though I will have to check to see if another checkbox is checked (don't show preview if active). CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Jong-Un Kim Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 6	Posted - 2015.06.16 13:10:24 - [171] - Quote This program breaks Logitech Gaming Software's auto profile switcher (It's for customising utility keys on our mice and keyboards). I can't give any specifics since I don't know how the detection is done, but it causes the Logitech driver to not be able to detect the active window a second after switching to it. I'm guessing it has to do with the way preview windows are created and drawn.
Dragokenshin1 AGM Incorporated Fidelas Constans 1	Posted - 2015.07.02 15:46:08 - [172] - Quote Hi There Can i use 5 accounts with only 1 Monitor?
Krystal Lee AGM Incorporated Fidelas Constans 0	Posted - 2015.07.02 16:21:27 - [173] - Quote I cannot get the preview panes to separate. Like when i launch the clients all the preview panes stack on top each other and when i drag one of them they all drag together so i can only see 1 of them. What am i doing wrong?
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1441	Posted - 2015.07.02 17:41:32 - [174] - Quote Dragokenshin1 wrote: Hi There Can i use 5 accounts with only 1 Monitor? You can have 5 windows up, one for each account, but you can only interact with 1 account at a time. Yaay!!!!
Tosawa Komarui Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy.. 3	Posted - 2015.07.04 18:44:57 - [175] - Quote it wont launch for me any ideas what i can do to fix that? i have it in the same folder as the game like i usually do but i recently had to reinstall eve and it does not seem to work now that i had to redownload it
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1451	Posted - 2015.07.04 19:04:24 - [176] - Quote If you reinstalled Eve.. you might have wrote over the file. Unzip it back into the folder and retry. Yaay!!!!
Tosawa Komarui Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy.. 3	Posted - 2015.07.04 19:57:43 - [177] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: If you reinstalled Eve.. you might have wrote over the file. Unzip it back into the folder and retry. its in there, but the new zip files only has the exe, it used to have two files in the zip right? should i find an older version and get the other file? also kinda wierd and possibly unrelated (i havent tested it enough) but when it fails to launch my next track/pause track buttons on my keyboard no longer works whats up with that xD
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1451	Posted - 2015.07.05 01:33:34 - [178] - Quote Should be able to run it and it'll create the conditions file. Start the game fully (login), then run the program. Had some issues regarding starting order but nothing recently. Dunno beyond that, just use the thing. Yaay!!!!
Tosawa Komarui Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy.. 3	Posted - 2015.07.06 07:05:51 - [179] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: Should be able to run it and it'll create the conditions file. Start the game fully (login), then run the program. Had some issues regarding starting order but nothing recently. Dunno beyond that, just use the thing. okay it wasent doing that for me for some reason, so i took the conditions file out of an older version and used that, and its working again, wierd!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 235	Posted - 2015.07.07 16:20:06 - [180] - Quote Hey folks, I'm still working on this in my spare time which has shrunken recently. There's still quite a few things that need to be done and all I can offer is excuses. My apologies. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 17	Posted - 2015.07.09 18:11:09 - [181] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: Hey folks, I'm still working on this in my spare time which has shrunken recently. There's still quite a few things that need to be done and all I can offer is excuses. My apologies. Dont ever do, and remember to drink your quafe. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Lee Sin Priest Republic University Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2015.08.09 07:05:49 - [182] - Quote Is this still actually getting worked on?
The Toybox Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.08.11 03:36:40 - [183] - Quote Really weird, my EVE-O was working last night and now today it is shutting down running the win 10 platform
Lee Sin Priest Republic University Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2015.08.15 05:25:31 - [184] - Quote The Toybox wrote: Really weird, my EVE-O was working last night and now today it is shutting down running the win 10 platform Did it stop working after you got it? or was it working when you got Win10 and all of a sudden went poof?
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah Going to the dawn 0	Posted - 2015.08.27 22:41:13 - [185] - Quote Latest build from the Downloads folder works fine on my Win 10 installation (except for an exception when one of two running EVE clients is closed). Guess I'll try to debug and fix it tomorrow. UPDATE: The error is raised NOT always, and is not critical.
Humang Mobius Logistics 103	Posted - 2015.08.31 12:18:15 - [186] - Quote If I have a client stretched across 2 screens, is it possible to have the preview to only show part of the client? (ie. only one screen?) AFK cloaking thread Summary - Provided by Paikis Good Post Etiquette - Provided by CCP Grayscale
Nyalnara AdAstra. Beach Club 134	Posted - 2015.08.31 19:00:20 - [187] - Quote Awesome project, posting for notifications. In case of ponies, keep calm and start running. French half-noob. Founder of [DEUPP]Dark Evil Undead Ponies Productions.
Laenatus ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 2	Posted - 2015.09.05 15:57:52 - [188] - Quote Humang wrote: If I have a client stretched across 2 screens, is it possible to have the preview to only show part of the client? (ie. only one screen?) I'd also like to see this...some how. I was thinking having something like ISBOXER where you can select an area and have it blown up or whatever. The utility i'd get out of this would be selecting a side of my screen that has my overview, scanner and HUD on it so i can keep an eye on my alt running FW missions without having to look at their entire screen stuffed into a small box. I play one full wide screen with a part dragged over into my 2ndary square screen, wide enough for 2 tall chatboxes stacked together. the extra wideness of it messes up the aspect ratio of the viewer windows. Still should be useful enough for what im planning on doing, however. Thanks for keeping this awesome tool alive!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 238	Posted - 2015.09.10 14:28:58 - [189] - Quote The blown up partial window could be something I work into the program. Though note that I will not add the ability to pass commands to the client other than making the window your active window. The whole passing commands to EVE in the miniature box just gets too close to the gray area of the TOS/EULA for my liking. At the moment I'm rewriting it from the ground up. The current version (1.18.3) has some finicky things with the base code, mainly how it creates and destroys the previews constantly. This causes the problem where you click where the preview is and instead nothing happens as you clicked your desktop instead as your click command was "missed" by the preview window as it refreshed. It's going to be a while, I'm refactoring how saving and loading works along with better settings options. For example, I plan to have "accounts" where you can assign clients (characters, really) to have the same settings as another for location. Thus if you have 2 characters on the same account, you can always have them mimic each other. In addition, I plan to add it where the clients can mimic the "default" settings you created for everything but location. It's going to be a loooong process, but I believe it will be worth it in the end. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 19	Posted - 2015.09.14 03:44:35 - [190] - Quote I don't know if they ask already but like a way so that where you set the preview any other preview appear in line vertical or horizontal. How it works right know is that i have to set it exactly where i want and when i change of users i have to also set them the same. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul

Phoenix Jones Small-Arms Fire 1550	Posted - 2015.09.14 16:37:29 - [191] - Quote Hey makari. Just wanted to say thanks for the work on this. Made playing multi accounts on a single screen enjoyable again. Yaay!!!!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 240	Posted - 2015.09.15 11:41:56 - [192] - Quote Leonis Perthshire wrote: I don't know if they ask already but like a way so that where you set the preview any other preview appear in line vertical or horizontal. How it works right know is that i have to set it exactly where i want and when i change of users i have to also set them the same. That is "intentional" because each character has a different window title. However, I am in the works of adding in something to the rewrite called the "Account System" which lets you mimic the same settings as another preview. I still need to work in location and size mirroring for both client and preview. Granted, I'm still just working on the settings and I haven't even touched rewriting the preview functions. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Epikurus The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 101	Posted - 2015.09.16 11:02:42 - [193] - Quote Is the preview window supposed to show that client in real time or is there known lag? I just set this up and was keeping an eye on the preview for one character. Nothing was happening but I clicked on him anyway to change something and found him in the process of being podded having lost his ship.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 240	Posted - 2015.09.16 11:38:55 - [194] - Quote It's real time. I haven't had it lag on me before. Was your 2nd client minimized? Were you in windowed mode? CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Aiyshimin Fistful of Finns Triumvirate. 552	Posted - 2015.09.18 09:02:41 - [195] - Quote Thank you and the original guy for this, very helpful little app. I'm currently playing with my left hand only due to a RL injury, being able to click other client preview windows is far superior to leaving the mouse to alt-tab.
Karti Aivo KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 32	Posted - 2015.10.06 19:00:05 - [196] - Quote Not sure if this was asked already, but any option to toggle off the window borders :x ?

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 4139	Posted - 2015.10.07 10:22:43 - [197] - Quote Karti Aivo wrote: Not sure if this was asked already, but any option to toggle off the window borders :x ? or am i just terrible and cant find the option? "Show preview frames" is the name of the option if I remember correctly. On my phone right now so don't have it open to check. @CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 244	Posted - 2015.10.07 12:23:19 - [198] - Quote Correct, FoxFour. You can toggle on/off the window border by checking/unchecking the "show preview frames". I would suggest enabling "Show overlay" if you toggle the window borders off. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Karti Aivo KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 32	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:29:56 - [199] - Quote thank you this was correct - seems i was just confused by the naming "preview frames". together with the new launcher this tool is really awesome ! :) Here some general feedback i posted to reddit on a recent ixboxer / new launcher discussion: "yeah im happy that eve-o preview is always improving, and in fact the first thing i did was testing it with the new launcher and see the current state. that said, isboxer still is more "premium" in its window management features, as in you can quite easy say "okay split all inactive clients evenly onto my 2nd screen" without having to fiddle with manual resizing, and that you can on top of that display parts of that client (like a big watchlist / cap / modules) next to them, but im confident that eve-o preview will get there sooner or later too. what im unsure about is that ressource management on top of that, since basicly isboxer builds "vms" for each client and allocates dedicated ressources to them, what is quite neat if you either have a not so great computer, or multibox a lot of clients - since without this one or two eve-clients got the habit to just "ninja" a lot of RAM while others are left with nothing which can lead to socket closes or huge lag spikes(freezes) in worst case. So it would be neat if the new launcher somehow would allow to limit the ressource allocation to each client :)"
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 19	Posted - 2015.10.08 03:15:13 - [200] - Quote Karti Aivo wrote: thank you this was correct - seems i was just confused by the naming "preview frames". together with the new launcher this tool is really awesome ! :) Here some general feedback i posted to reddit on a recent ixboxer / new launcher discussion: "yeah im happy that eve-o preview is always improving, and in fact the first thing i did was testing it with the new launcher and see the current state. that said, isboxer still is more "premium" in its window management features, as in you can quite easy say "okay split all inactive clients evenly onto my 2nd screen" without having to fiddle with manual resizing, and that you can on top of that display parts of that client (like a big watchlist / cap / modules) next to them, but im confident that eve-o preview will get there sooner or later too. what im unsure about is that ressource management on top of that, since basicly isboxer builds "vms" for each client and allocates dedicated ressources to them, what is quite neat if you either have a not so great computer, or multibox a lot of clients - since without this one or two eve-clients got the habit to just "ninja" a lot of RAM while others are left with nothing which can lead to socket closes or huge lag spikes(freezes) in worst case. So it would be neat if the new launcher somehow would allow to limit the ressource allocation to each client :)" You bring up good points. In your case ISB is better for you. Am fine whit this run 3 clientes at the same timeand am fine. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 244	Posted - 2015.10.08 11:25:32 - [201] - Quote Thanks for your feedback. Yeah, ISBoxer is definitely easier in that respect but it does cost money. I am actively trying to update EVE-O Preview in my spare time, but I normally only have time when work is slow, unfortunately the last couple weeks have not been. I was actually wondering if the new launcher would make EVE-O preview obsolete. So far the "remember client location" of the launcher means I could strip away the location tracking. But I wouldn't consider doing that until the new launcher is out of beta and everything for location and size is working as intended. Even then I may not since the launcher can only set settings at launch. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Anaksonomun Heart Brothers In Arms. SOLAR WING. 0	Posted - 2015.10.10 09:14:31 - [202] - Quote bla bla bla bla =) I look and marvel at your stupid chatter !!! I do not have it so hard for mammoths simply create a video and show on youtube??? very very funny monkeysbrains =) ha ha ha ha =)
Jaantrag 30	Posted - 2015.10.10 14:59:44 - [203] - Quote after a long long while started using it again .. 4 clients on one screen piled on top of eachother and the eve-o thumbnails on the right edge of that screen for fast switching between the clients .. had some wierd thing when some thumbnails were little "zoomed" didint show the hole client in there ticked and unticked the track client couple times minimized the clients and the thumbnails showed up as they should .. then i click on one and client shows up BUT the thumbnail itself turns mostly white and showing the client in the top left corner about 10% of the hole thumbnail size .. any advice ? .. w10 fault problems ? ... nohting like this happend when i was using w7 while back .. as of the new launcher .. perhaps eve-o can drop some settings once the launcher is baked out of beta, but i dont see it replacing eve-o .. launcher as the name says is a launcher to open the clients and settings for em .. still would need a client switcher to toggle between the clients .. but time will tell what they come up with for the launcher ..
ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1238	Posted - 2015.10.10 21:50:36 - [204] - Quote I have removed a disrespectful post. Quote: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times. The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others. ISD Decoy Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 244	Posted - 2015.10.13 11:51:15 - [205] - Quote Jaantrag wrote: after a long long while started using it again .. 4 clients on one screen piled on top of eachother and the eve-o thumbnails on the right edge of that screen for fast switching between the clients .. had some wierd thing when some thumbnails were little "zoomed" didint show the hole client in there ticked and unticked the track client couple times minimized the clients and the thumbnails showed up as they should .. then i click on one and client shows up BUT the thumbnail itself turns mostly white and showing the client in the top left corner about 10% of the hole thumbnail size .. any advice ? .. w10 fault problems ? ... nohting like this happend when i was using w7 while back .. as of the new launcher .. perhaps eve-o can drop some settings once the launcher is baked out of beta, but i dont see it replacing eve-o .. launcher as the name says is a launcher to open the clients and settings for em .. still would need a client switcher to toggle between the clients .. but time will tell what they come up with for the launcher .. I have never seen such a bug. It may be a win10 thing, I use WIn8.1. I am planning on getting a new PC soon, my current computer is dying fast and I can hardly play EVE with multiple clients without a BSOD. At that point I can see if I can find easy fixes for the bugs such as that. But again, I am in the process of doing a lengthy rewrite. Precisely. I don't know what CCP is going to include on their launcher nor do I know how compact it will be. I am planning to continue writing the rewrite when I have spare time. For the most part, it's going to be the same as the old one but it will have easier to use settings and the ability to "clone" the settings of another client. Also, I've rewritten the save/load settings to scrap XML all together. I personally hate saving settings to XML (or JSON for that matter) and for ease of programming and multiple read/writes, I have switched to SQLite. Sadly, I can't give an ETA. It will simple be done when it's done. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
LadyBlademaster Event Horizon Expeditionaries Apocalypse Now. 12	Posted - 2015.10.14 00:00:06 - [206] - Quote Quote: after a long long while started using it again .. 4 clients on one screen piled on top of eachother and the eve-o thumbnails on the right edge of that screen for fast switching between the clients .. had some wierd thing when some thumbnails were little "zoomed" didint show the hole client in there ticked and unticked the track client couple times minimized the clients and the thumbnails showed up as they should .. then i click on one and client shows up BUT the thumbnail itself turns mostly white and showing the client in the top left corner about 10% of the hole thumbnail size .. any advice ? .. w10 fault problems ? ... nohting like this happend when i was using w7 while back .. as of the new launcher .. perhaps eve-o can drop some settings once the launcher is baked out of beta, but i dont see it replacing eve-o .. launcher as the name says is a launcher to open the clients and settings for em .. still would need a client switcher to toggle between the clients .. but time will tell what they come up with for the launcher .. I can verify that theirs an issue with windows 10 - I also was getting memory leaks first into cpu then gpu which crashed my computer badly. Since found an app that let me install an older verson of aero and it seems to of ended the issue.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 245	Posted - 2015.10.14 12:14:40 - [207] - Quote Hmmmmm definitely something I need to look into ASAP then. Thanks. EDIT: please note that I've paused development due to work om-nomming my time AND needing a new computer which I'm getting next week. I should start again in 1-2 weeks. Minor setbacks, I know. But when EVE loves to BSOD on me when I close it, it deters me from playing the game. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 19	Posted - 2015.10.16 04:01:36 - [208] - Quote O i understand now why my room was so hot. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Karti Aivo KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 33	Posted - 2015.10.16 17:28:38 - [209] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: Thanks for your feedback. Yeah, ISBoxer is definitely easier in that respect but it does cost money. I am actively trying to update EVE-O Preview in my spare time, but I normally only have time when work is slow, unfortunately the last couple weeks have not been. I was actually wondering if the new launcher would make EVE-O preview obsolete. So far the "remember client location" of the launcher means I could strip away the location tracking. But I wouldn't consider doing that until the new launcher is out of beta and everything for location and size is working as intended. Even then I may not since the launcher can only set settings at launch. oh this was in no means meant as negative critics, I really like where the project is going and together with the new launcher youre actually pretty close to replacing isboxer completely - thats very impressive! :) The biggest QoL feature youre basicly "missing" for me now would be the "split all preview-windows evenly on Screen X" but i was pretty quickly able to setup eve-o preview so that it works pretty well for what im doing most the time :) Youre on a good track, thank you for doing this awesome work <3
Jaantrag 32	Posted - 2015.10.19 12:10:55 - [210] - Quote hmm .. forgot i had the win7 tweaker running to compensate some windows shortcomings .. closeing the tweaker and havent had any of the "zoomed" effect .. could be that caused it .. also .. any way to force the "force hide" on some of the previews from start .. or turn it around and show only marked ones so no previews when u launch the clients after picking the toon the previews start showing up ..

Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 245	Posted - 2015.10.20 00:57:31 - [211] - Quote I'm currently reworking the program as a whole (or will be again when I resume next week). You'll just have to click on the checkboxes for now. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Jaantrag 33	Posted - 2015.10.27 09:00:24 - [212] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: I'm currently reworking the program as a whole (or will be again when I resume next week). You'll just have to click on the check-boxes for now. :) clicking no biggie ... actually rearranged the windows so no hiding needed anymore .. but that's that today i had my clients open closing one i got an .NET error or something.. some reason it kept losing focus fast so took me 20 times of selecting a bit from it and hitting ctrl+c before i got it into my clipboard Quote: ************ Exception Text ************ System.ArgumentException: Value does not fall within the expected range. at PreviewToy.DwmApi.DwmUpdateThumbnailProperties(IntPtr hThumbnail, DWM_THUMBNAIL_PROPERTIES props) at PreviewToy.Preview.RefreshPreview() at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseLeave(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) there was a bit more, with the module names and locations .. will try to see if i can reproduce it .. looking the event manager another program using .net framework crashed 15 min before this in backround .. could be related ..
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 246	Posted - 2015.10.27 18:09:14 - [213] - Quote DwmApi is the thing that accesses AERO. So it may be an aero problem. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Laconquista Toledo The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.11.05 21:04:33 - [214] - Quote Does this now work on win10?
CowRocket Void Great White North Productions Alternate Allegiance 26	Posted - 2015.11.05 21:39:37 - [215] - Quote Laconquista Toledo wrote: Does this now work on win10? I use it with up to 12 clients, haven't had a problem running Win10 except the known "always on top" bug bleeding shadow darkness > did i just saw a red procurer? :P
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 246	Posted - 2015.11.06 13:55:03 - [216] - Quote Yeah, I get the always on top bug as well. I'm not quite sure why that's happening. But I'm trying to spend more time rewriting the program than trying to fix the old one. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 19	Posted - 2015.11.07 02:22:30 - [217] - Quote If you need lab rats heres one. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
WelcomeBack KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 4	Posted - 2015.11.10 21:03:25 - [218] - Quote This tool is brilliant! It could completely replace OnTopReplica if you could select certain areas of each window to be shown as the preview but I'm getting ahead of myself Excellent work
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 246	Posted - 2015.11.11 14:46:33 - [219] - Quote Thanks! I'm actually working on that in my (exceptionally limited) spare time. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Zekora Rally A Black Spot 24	Posted - 2015.11.18 05:32:33 - [220] - Quote I have no idea of what's going on but my taskbar previews in win 10 either aren't animated or shrunk to a pee size at the top left of the preview. Worked perfectly fine on win 7.

Zekora Rally A Black Spot 24	Posted - 2015.11.18 06:14:14 - [221] - Quote LadyBlademaster wrote: Quote: after a long long while started using it again .. 4 clients on one screen piled on top of eachother and the eve-o thumbnails on the right edge of that screen for fast switching between the clients .. had some wierd thing when some thumbnails were little "zoomed" didint show the hole client in there ticked and unticked the track client couple times minimized the clients and the thumbnails showed up as they should .. then i click on one and client shows up BUT the thumbnail itself turns mostly white and showing the client in the top left corner about 10% of the hole thumbnail size .. any advice ? .. w10 fault problems ? ... nohting like this happend when i was using w7 while back .. as of the new launcher .. perhaps eve-o can drop some settings once the launcher is baked out of beta, but i dont see it replacing eve-o .. launcher as the name says is a launcher to open the clients and settings for em .. still would need a client switcher to toggle between the clients .. but time will tell what they come up with for the launcher .. I can verify that theirs an issue with windows 10 - I also was getting memory leaks first into cpu then gpu which crashed my computer badly. Since found an app that let me install an older verson of aero and it seems to of ended the issue. How did you go about doing this?
Mermaids StarFox KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2015.11.24 02:47:20 - [222] - Quote Zekora Rally wrote: I have no idea of what's going on but my taskbar previews in win 10 either aren't animated or shrunk to a pee size at the top left of the preview. Worked perfectly fine on win 7. something similar happen to me, i can configure 3 clients np, but the previews are not animated. i have windows 8.1 64 bits. any suggestions on what should i try?
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 246	Posted - 2015.11.24 15:44:52 - [223] - Quote Just to check, are you clients: --In Windowed Mode --Not Minimized Sadly, I've stalled on development due to work and prepping for the holidays. Hopefully I have more time soon. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Mermaids StarFox KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2015.11.25 19:35:57 - [224] - Quote yes, my clients are windowed mode which i usually play on full screen (window maximized). i use this option to be able to use the internet browser or being alt tabbed on something else. here is a printscreen of my setup. please note i get the same behavior at my home computer and my office computer. they both have different video cards (one ATI and one AMD) which i discard it being a video driver issue. Here is the in game graphic configuration : http://i.imgur.com/t1JSGUj.png Here is my preview windows setup : http://i.imgur.com/gi240dK.png EVE-O Config: http://i.imgur.com/fsaSwFn.png And last one, 1 active window and 2 previews : http://i.imgur.com/z5fREJM.png I really love the program, but having no animation on the preview windows is a downer for me :(. Anyone else having the same issue? Edit: on the graphic configuration in game, ive tried to use the lowest, mid and highest config and i get the same results.
Jaantrag 33	Posted - 2015.11.25 20:38:27 - [225] - Quote Mermaids StarFox, when u start it all up do you launch eve-o before or after the clients ? Zekora Rally as a answer to you too once i have all clients running and eve-o thumbnails messed up i restart it and it seems to run as it should, untill something upsets it and one or two thubnails start acting up. then again restart eve.o and it works ok.
Mermaids StarFox KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2015.11.25 21:48:05 - [226] - Quote Jaantrag wrote: Mermaids StarFox, when u start it all up do you launch eve-o before or after the clients ? Zekora Rally as a answer to you too once i have all clients running and eve-o thumbnails messed up i restart it and it seems to run as it should, untill something upsets it and one or two thubnails start acting up. then again restart eve.o and it works ok. Jaantrag, i just closed everything (even the launcher).....Opened EVE-O, then i opened the EVE launcher, proceeded to open up my 3 clients and i still gets my non-animated preview windows.
Jaantrag 33	Posted - 2015.11.26 09:26:28 - [227] - Quote i meant open EVE-o after u have clients running and toons logged in. tryed to mimic your setup .. maxed settings, 3 thubnails about the same size as yours .. but it has the animations as they should only difrence is the hardware and im running w10 myself. so could be something with w8 .. home and office boht running w8 ? is only the thumbnails with eve-o not animated .. when u look the live preview thumbnail for some other program .. video or something does it have the animation ?
Mermaids StarFox KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2015.11.26 14:47:56 - [228] - Quote yeah, its only the EVE-O preview that is not animated. if i go to my taskbar preview and mouse over my clients, i get the animation there and any other progam. Both my computers have Windows 8.1. i will try and install Windows 10 (which i hate) in a different hard drive and try it out.
Mermaids StarFox KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2015.11.27 16:24:03 - [229] - Quote so, i locked down the problem. here are my findings. I installed Windows 10 to test it out on a different platform since i have the same operating system on both my computer (home and office). Once i got everything up and running on W10, i got the latest EVE-O version and started testing previews, etc. To my surprise i was able to configure my 3 clients and now im getting animation on my previews (HURRAY). here is a screen: http://i.imgur.com/5a1NYfs.png The troubleshooting: After i saw how it works in W10 I noticed a wrong behavior on my W8.1 installation, ill try to explain as detailed as possible: - On windows 10, the way i get animation on my previews is if my other windows are maximized on the background on the main monitor which is the correct behavior. On the EVE-O window, when i have my 3 clientes maximized i get the previews showing up with my character name on it. http://i.imgur.com/xy8b40T.png - On Windows 8.1, if i do the Same, have my 3 clients running and maximized on the background, the EVE-O doesnt detect my clients running unless i minimize them to the taskbar and thats where i had the problem in which i though, for the preview to work correcty, that my clients had to be minimized in order to show animation. Heres is a Pic with my clients Maximized on Windows 8.1 http://i.imgur.com/KonpP7N.png (it doesnt show anything). Here is another pic with all my 3 clients minimized http://i.imgur.com/Fp3TcNb.png . Please notice how ther last one i minimized has 3 dots as a name (...). I tried with other versions and its the same behavior. I wanted to share this info with you guys just to give you an idea of my troubleshooting. On my side, ill just fix it by Upgrading my OS to windows 10 since i love the program. Let me know if you got any further questions.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 246	Posted - 2015.11.30 12:39:19 - [230] - Quote That is odd. Very odd indeed. Normally, the animations don't work unless the clients are non-minimized. I'm going to take a look into that. However, i do notice in Windows 10 you don't have a little double arrow on the top of your EVE and/or EVE-O Preview windows. That's from a stardock program (though i can't recall the name). perhaps try windows 8.1 without it installed? That does affect Windows Aero IIRC. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Mermaids StarFox KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2015.11.30 13:47:12 - [231] - Quote hahahahahahahahaha......jesuschrist. This is funny.....Makari Aeron you are a genious....So, that double arrowed is from TeamViewer QuickConnect. Its an addin from Teamviewer to share the window you are using for remote support. I have TeamViewer for work purpose on both my computer http://i.imgur.com/CWqEg44.png . So, i went and disabled the Pugin and Voila, its working like it does on W10. On W10 it didnt behave like that because i went straight to EVE installation with the fresh OS. good stuff hehehe....thanks for pointing it out, to be honest i wouldnt have noticed it.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 246	Posted - 2015.11.30 17:35:57 - [232] - Quote Oh duh. Teamviewer. Yeah, for some reason Teamviewer messes with Windows Aero. For some reason I was thinking Stardock. Either way, I wish there was a way to avoid the Teamviewer problem. It's something I'll look into as I'm rewriting. I'm just glad we could find a solution. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Mermaids StarFox KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2015.11.30 18:03:42 - [233] - Quote yeah i disabled it and its working fine in 8.1. well this served me as a way to retry windows 10 and i ended up liking it hehehe....ill keep you updated if i find any other bug.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 246	Posted - 2015.11.30 18:06:33 - [234] - Quote Thank you! CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Zekora Rally A Black Spot 24	Posted - 2015.11.30 18:34:13 - [235] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: Just to check, are you clients: --In Windowed Mode --Not Minimized Sadly, I've stalled on development due to work and prepping for the holidays. Hopefully I have more time soon. I feel like an idiot. Thanks, it works now.
Exil V'irr School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.01.15 02:38:44 - [236] - Quote o7 I was wondering if there is a way to change the text color in the XML config. Thanks a lot!
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 247	Posted - 2016.01.18 14:32:25 - [237] - Quote Which text color are you talking about? But no, I don't believe there is. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Guong Men Pareleru Opera Gomera Liquidate 02 0	Posted - 2016.01.21 11:33:52 - [238] - Quote so when do you plan to make this nice software FINALLY of any use? .. I mean the KEY feature .. easy access to any client window is missing since the first version and still promised for the "next version" when ever it will come out???-- Honestly that would have been the first thing for me to implement if I were the developer. What use has a client management tool, if I have to go the same circumstances like in regular Windows to access each client. Please implement it as soon as possible thanks
Leonis Perthshire Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 19	Posted - 2016.01.21 14:32:54 - [239] - Quote Guong Men Pareleru wrote: so when do you plan to make this nice software FINALLY of any use? .. I mean the KEY feature .. easy access to any client window is missing since the first version and still promised for the "next version" when ever it will come out???-- Honestly that would have been the first thing for me to implement if I were the developer. What use has a client management tool, if I have to go the same circumstances like in regular Windows to access each client. Please implement it as soon as possible thanks Wao man, if you have that much of a problem whit the app then dont use it. I use it and its really good for far. Also you could implement that in the project since you see that needed. GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger White Maul
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 247	Posted - 2016.01.21 15:51:07 - [240] - Quote Well, for the last few months the price of oil has slipped drastically which increases my work load as I have more jobs to do around the office. So for the time being my role in development in on hold. I love EVE and working on the program but it doesn't pay my bills. I can count on one hand the number of times i've logged into EVE in the last 3 months, and that's not for lack of want. You're more than welcome to crack open the source code yourself, it is open source for a reason. In addition, I'm not quite sure what you mean "easy access to every client window", could you elaborate, please? While I do wish I had more time to play EVE and write a new version of EVE O Preview, I simply don't. Thank you for your understanding. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Kachiko Sama Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2016.01.25 22:51:57 - [241] - Quote This is a very useful program to me, thanks to all who contributed to it. I am however having a very very strange issue for the past few days. One of my characters seems to be incompatible with the program. I usually run 4 accounts, and i still can. unless I log in character A. If character A logs in the display of the preview pane crashes oddly and then the client itself hangs. Only the prievew pane and client of character A are affected, other previews and clients work normally while this is occurring If I am not running eve-o preview the client works 100% correctly. One thought I've had is that perhaps some data that eve-o stores relating to client positioning is fubarred for this character and causing this. Where does eve-o preview store this and can i wipe it manually and test this? Another option is that this is a very strange aero bug, although the program worked fine previous to 2 days ago. Al of this is occurring with the latest build of your program on windows 10.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 247	Posted - 2016.01.26 14:57:42 - [242] - Quote I've had that problem too, always Windows 10. What I recommend doing is deleting your XML settings files and only starting EVE O Preview AFTER you've logged in all your characters. I've been trying to pin down what is different, but it's something M$ changed since the November update (aka Win10 SP1), but I have exceptionally limited time to do any development (see post above yours). CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Kachiko Sama Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2016.01.26 15:06:19 - [243] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: I've had that problem too, always Windows 10. What I recommend doing is deleting your XML settings files and only starting EVE O Preview AFTER you've logged in all your characters. I've been trying to pin down what is different, but it's something M$ changed since the November update (aka Win10 SP1), but I have exceptionally limited time to do any development (see post above yours). Thanks for the reply. Whereabouts are the xml settings files located?
Mermaids StarFox KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2016.01.26 15:17:57 - [244] - Quote Kachiko Sama wrote: Makari Aeron wrote: I've had that problem too, always Windows 10. What I recommend doing is deleting your XML settings files and only starting EVE O Preview AFTER you've logged in all your characters. I've been trying to pin down what is different, but it's something M$ changed since the November update (aka Win10 SP1), but I have exceptionally limited time to do any development (see post above yours). Thanks for the reply. Whereabouts are the xml settings files located? Its usually where the EVE-O exe file is located. i Wondered this myself, i usually ran the program from my desktop and it scatered the config files all over it. What i did was to create a folder and put the exe file in it. inmediately after you launch it it will create the files to save your local configs. hope this helps.
Meltur Snuff Box Snuffed Out 9	Posted - 2016.01.30 14:06:00 - [245] - Quote Awesome tool ! Thanks !
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7241	Posted - 2016.02.24 00:24:36 - [246] - Quote Shame it's now seemingly confirmed as a bannable offence to use this. Was a great tool while it lasted. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Mr Mac Dark Goliath 125	Posted - 2016.02.24 06:20:42 - [247] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Shame it's now seemingly confirmed as a bannable offence to use this. Was a great tool while it lasted. Source? Link?
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 322	Posted - 2016.02.24 06:54:47 - [248] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Shame it's now seemingly confirmed as a bannable offence to use this. Was a great tool while it lasted. here you are again spouting nonsense. the uproar is all about the devblog being vague/unclear. so unless CCP clears things up, this is just a silly assumption. Just Add Water
Gingar Bread School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 07:35:11 - [249] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RWWdIVzjVc THAT's whats bannable. L2READ and understand.
Jaantrag 42	Posted - 2016.02.24 08:14:17 - [250] - Quote first post : .. Quote: This program is legal under the EULA/ToS as CCP FoxFour states here: CCP FoxFour wrote: Please keep the discussion on topic. The legitimacy of this software has already been discussed and doesn't need to be again. Assuming the functionality of the software doesn't change, it is allowed in its current state. but to be 101% sure if any CCP happends to come by could re-confirm the status .. to dig into the overlays rule .. Quote: However, if any third party application or other software is used to gain any unfair advantage, or for purposes beyond its intended use, or if the application or other software violates other parts of the EULA, we may fully enforce our rights to prohibit such use, including player bans. We do consider overlays using elements of a second or multiple other EVE clients to be against the rules. It changes the way the game is played and grants the player unfair advantages over other players. For example, having overviews from other EVE clients as overlays on one EVE client would allow a player to get real time intel from all those other game instances without having to switch to the other windows. Similarly, overlays using elements from a second or multiple other EVE clients to allow the player to activate modules etc. on those other game instances without switching to the other client windows are clearly in violation of our rules. i read fom it u cant use a overlay to gain an advantage from multiple clients .. however eve-o more like uses thumbnails of the full clients so u can see and switch between em .. hek the new launcher has a option to switch between active clients .. and thumbnails .. try useing win+tab keys .. similar things ull see there .. if eve-o is illegal the win+tab key should be banned too :))

Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7245	Posted - 2016.02.24 08:26:55 - [251] - Quote Mr Mac wrote: Source? Link? This dev blog. Nat Silverguard wrote: here you are again spouting nonsense. the uproar is all about the devblog being vague/unclear. so unless CCP clears things up, this is just a silly assumption. But it's not really, is it. One thing they are clear about is that the ability to see inactive client windows is disallowed as show by them saying: "For example, having overviews from other EVE clients as overlays on one EVE client would allow a player to get real time intel from all those other game instances without having to switch to the other windows." EVE-O preview specifically allows you to see inactive windows, that's what it does that makes it great. When they get to the final part they then state: "Please be aware of the fact that we do a lot of data analysis which grants us insight into behavior patterns and allows us to detect anomalies. In a lot of cases we do not need to know what you do on the client side because looking at the behavior in our very detailed event logs on the server side allows us to see if you have/had an unfair advantage over anybody else including the game environment. We donGÇÖt know all the tools out there and what they do exactly - and frankly we donGÇÖt care. If you get banned, then this is because the results of what you did and how you potentially gained from it manifested in our server-side logs." So taken together this states that they find the ability to look at the overviews of inactive windows to be an unfair advantage, and they can't see and indeed don't care what the client actually looks like, they work from the server logs. As eve-o preview gives the same ability and obviously grants an advantage (otherwise why would we use it?) then there's absolutely no way I can see that it wouldn't be a bannable offense to use it. Gingar Bread wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RWWdIVzjVc THAT's whats bannable. L2READ and understand. How is that functionally different from having the saw windows tiled with the same infromation shows using eve-o preview, and more importantly how would CCP tell the difference without seeing your screen? In fact, take for example this EVE-O preview setup, how is that not going to give the same advantages? When in space you can clearly see the modules cycling and the cargo filling so you don't have to swap to each window to monitor the status of all 16 windows, you just click the preview when the given client needs attention. Jaantrag wrote: first post : .. Quote: This program is legal under the EULA/ToS as CCP FoxFour states here: Be very very careful with thing like this, as CCP have in the past changed their rules without going back and updating those posts simply by overriding them with new decisions. Just because one dev has said in the past that it's OK doesn't mean that going forward that will remain the case, and it doesn't even mean CCP will notify you if that changes. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Jaantrag 42	Posted - 2016.02.24 13:35:40 - [252] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: [ if u can read past first lines then i did note if a ccp came along to confirm the status of eve-o or trashs it ... on a short story .. useing Win+tab gives u pretty much the same outcome as eve-o .. will it get banned too ? .. and setting up multiple clients across the screen wizely u can see the modules statuses and whatnots .. the advantage allready starts by useing multiple accounts .. eve-o can be used by everyone so is it really an advantage ?
Hairpins Blueprint The Northerners Northern Coalition. 182	Posted - 2016.02.24 13:45:24 - [253] - Quote I have Wooden laptop. Is it possible to reduce fps on other windows like with Isboxer? Main 60 FPS, the rest 5 FPS?
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7251	Posted - 2016.02.24 14:10:27 - [254] - Quote Jaantrag wrote: if u can read past first lines then i did note if a ccp came along to confirm the status of eve-o or trashs it ... I did read past that, I simply cut the quote down. I understand what you are saying, I'm simply saying don't rely on one EVE dev posting like a year ago as proof that eve-o preview is exempt from the rules. Jaantrag wrote: on a short story .. useing Win+tab gives u pretty much the same outcome as eve-o No it doesn't, since it pulls the focus off of the active client into the DWM. Eve-o preview allows you to be interacting with one eve client while looking at the inactive clients without having to switch to them. You can then respond to an inactive client the moment you see something happening. With wit+tab you need to press that to look at them, you can't just see the previews by default. Jaantrag wrote: eve-o can be used by everyone so is it really an advantage ? It's an advantage against those who don't use it. The fact that it's free doesn't matter. You couldn't make a free bot and say "everyone can use it so it's fair". The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 248	Posted - 2016.02.24 14:27:30 - [255] - Quote I've asked CCP for a clarification either in this thread or the Dev Blog thread. Hopefully we'll get a response in the next few days. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Basil Vulpine Blueprint Haus Blades of Grass 67	Posted - 2016.02.24 15:02:50 - [256] - Quote I've probably done a fairly noob mistake here. I edited the XML files and it stopped running. Deleting the XML files makes it run again but it doesn't seem to use the XML files anymore! A) Apart from XML files in its own folder where else could it be storing settings that I need to nuke? B) What do I need to avoid when editing the XML to leave them valid? I introduced nothing that wasn't already present on another character's settings. C) Is there a way to move the preview windows if I remove the borders? this is the main thing I'm likely to be trying to jiggle numbers in the XML file for. Reproduction steps: I fired it up and arranged one character for each of my accounts. So far, so good. I then edited the layout xml files with the plan of duplicating characters within the same account rather than set them up manually. I shuffled the order of the characters in the client_layout and flat_layout files, also tidied up some pixel differences by copy/pasting the height/width data and the y location of the preview file. This was done with the basic Win10 notepad. Saved it, fired up eve-o preview and waited. Tried again. No preview, nothing in task manager. Tried running it as admin, no success. Deleted the xml files, fired up eve-o and it worked so something I changed in the XML files borked it. As an added bonus deleting the XML files hasn't resulted in it recreating them, it seems to partially remember some of the settings for the program itself though. Deleting the exe and copying a fresh version from the downloaded archive dosen't fix things either. Searching registry for eve-o didn't yield any saved settings apart from a crash report debug and two compatibility settings. I nuked the compatibility bits.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 248	Posted - 2016.02.24 16:50:06 - [257] - Quote A) it only stores files in those XML files in its own folder. B) editting the XML files within the bounds of reason shouldn't cause any problems C) currently, no. Personally, don't use notepad. It screws with the end of line characters. I'd use notepad++ or wordpad. That might be the problem you're having. Perhaps try running as admin? Whatever windows 10 did, it royally messed with EVEO Preview. Unfortunately, I have little time to do extracurriculars with how work is at the moment. Hell, I rarely touch EVE these days much do my dismay. At some point I'm going to finish my rewrite of EVE O Preview, but I have no ETA. The last time I touched the code was October. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7253	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:05:31 - [258] - Quote Does it not still store the xml in a random appdata folder sometimes? I know it used to have an issue where sometimes it would create a random apddata folder with a bunch of xml files and you had to change the location of the exe file itself to get it to use local xml files again, so failing other things, try copying the exe file and the xml files you've got for it to a new folder and running it from there. I think it's something that happens when you're using some of environment path variables in .NET, or possibly if you're not specifying a root path and just aiming for a file directly. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 248	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:43:20 - [259] - Quote Honestly? I don't know. I have never had it do that to me. Then again, I'm not the original author. I merely adopted it when he stepped away. @Basil Vulpine: I'd recommend doign what Lucas Kell said, move the EXE to a new folder or rename it the folder it is in. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Basil Vulpine Blueprint Haus Blades of Grass 67	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:50:00 - [260] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Does it not still store the xml in a random appdata folder sometimes? I know it used to have an issue where sometimes it would create a random apddata folder with a bunch of xml files and you had to change the location of the exe file itself to get it to use local xml files again, so failing other things, try copying the exe file and the xml files you've got for it to a new folder and running it from there. I think it's something that happens when you're using some of environment path variables in .NET, or possibly if you're not specifying a root path and just aiming for a file directly. User/Appdata/Local did indeed have an _ folder with subfolders that were all eve-o preview related. user.cfg was the only file in there. Nuking that hasn't restored XML file creation but did seem to help re-default things. Renaming the executable redefaults things. Renaming the folder redefaults things. Neither restores XML files going in to the same folder as the executable. If it really has put them somewhere random then surely it needs to find them somehow? If I try and use windows search for recently modified XML files Cortana pops up wanting more permissions. It sounds like it may be time to go find a third party search/file indexing tool. Makari Aeron wrote: Honestly? I don't know. I have never had it do that to me. Then again, I'm not the original author. I merely adopted it when he stepped away. @Basil Vulpine: I'd recommend doing what Lucas Kell said, move the EXE to a new folder or rename it the folder it is in. Thanks for reading and responding. If I can fix what I broke then this looks like it'll be very handy.

Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7253	Posted - 2016.02.24 18:49:20 - [261] - Quote Basil Vulpine wrote: User/Appdata/Local did indeed have an _ folder with subfolders that were all eve-o preview related. user.cfg was the only file in there. Nuking that hasn't restored XML file creation but did seem to help re-default things. Renaming the executable redefaults things. Renaming the folder redefaults things. Neither restores XML files going in to the same folder as the executable. If it really has put them somewhere random then surely it needs to find them somehow? If I try and use windows search for recently modified XML files Cortana pops up wanting more permissions. It sounds like it may be time to go find a third party search/file indexing tool. You could try checking over your xml files to make sure they aren't missing anything. Copy paste each of them into a site like this one, which will validate the XML and make sure It's not badly formatted. It might be that it's failing to load them and giving up. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Basil Vulpine Blueprint Haus Blades of Grass 67	Posted - 2016.02.25 00:23:39 - [262] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Basil Vulpine wrote: User/Appdata/Local did indeed have an _ folder with subfolders that were all eve-o preview related. user.cfg was the only file in there. Nuking that hasn't restored XML file creation but did seem to help re-default things. Renaming the executable redefaults things. Renaming the folder redefaults things. Neither restores XML files going in to the same folder as the executable. If it really has put them somewhere random then surely it needs to find them somehow? If I try and use windows search for recently modified XML files Cortana pops up wanting more permissions. It sounds like it may be time to go find a third party search/file indexing tool. You could try checking over your xml files to make sure they aren't missing anything. Copy paste each of them into a site like this one, which will validate the XML and make sure It's not badly formatted. It might be that it's failing to load them and giving up. I wiped the ones I edited and a search for files modified today didn't turn up any relevant .xml files on the hard disk. The Eve-o preview folder literally only contains the EXE currently. I did try putting in some data-less XML files too that just had the header and no characters, no joy.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7358	Posted - 2016.02.26 16:57:00 - [263] - Quote Good news. CCP Grimmi wrote: Overlays which contain a full, unchanged, EVE Client instance in a view only mode, no matter how large or small they are scaled, like it is done by EVE-O Preview as of today, are fine with us. These overlays do not allow any direct interaction with the EVE Client and you have to bring the respective EVE Client to the front/put the window focus on it, in order to interact with it. CCP Grimmi wrote: Having many clients visible at the same time is not something we intend to ban. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 248	Posted - 2016.02.26 22:06:24 - [264] - Quote Thanks Lucas Kell. I've updated the OP with the link and the quote. @Basil Vulpine: I'll try to look into some things on my end this weekend and get back to you on Monday. Your problems are.....interesting to say the least. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Iain Cariaba 2717	Posted - 2016.02.27 14:18:17 - [265] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Good news. CCP Grimmi wrote: Overlays which contain a full, unchanged, EVE Client instance in a view only mode, no matter how large or small they are scaled, like it is done by EVE-O Preview as of today, are fine with us. These overlays do not allow any direct interaction with the EVE Client and you have to bring the respective EVE Client to the front/put the window focus on it, in order to interact with it. CCP Grimmi wrote: Having many clients visible at the same time is not something we intend to ban. I was just about to post and ask the question about this. Thanks for beating me to it, Lucas. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Astrid Farnsworth Broke and Famous 4	Posted - 2016.02.28 15:50:36 - [266] - Quote Its a good news for all of us now.
Astrid Farnsworth Broke and Famous 4	Posted - 2016.03.09 19:21:44 - [267] - Quote Any one have use this app whit plus 20 charts?
NinjaTurtle Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 100	Posted - 2016.03.21 07:35:33 - [268] - Quote So cool program, but one major issue on Windows 10 (also had it on Windows 7 but it only happened occasionally): When you minimize clients as you normally would in Windows and then open reopen them clicking the preview windows rather than their actual instances on the taskbar, the window is resized to some asinine default size upon reappearing and that I can't figure out. Doesn't seem to be a value for it in the XML doc unless I'm misunderstanding the fields. Any help?
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 279	Posted - 2016.03.21 11:29:53 - [269] - Quote I was not aware that was happening. Erm, no I don't have any idea why it would do that. That is quite odd CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
NinjaTurtle Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 100	Posted - 2016.03.21 11:35:03 - [270] - Quote Makari Aeron wrote: I was not aware that was happening. Erm, no I don't have any idea why it would do that. That is quite odd It has to have some tie-in to the initial size of the application window because those are the dimensions it's reverting back to.

NinjaTurtle Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 101	Posted - 2016.03.24 07:40:24 - [271] - Quote Any thoughts on the matter? I'd love to help you but alas, I'm only a Java developer and not good at C variants
Jaantrag 64	Posted - 2016.03.25 07:31:11 - [272] - Quote what u describe sounds like the thing happends to me when im doing what u, but it only seems to happen when i have one client in another monitor with difrent resolution. sometimes its just put a tiny icon into the thumbnail.. sometimes rezises the one client bit in the thumbnail and puts a white bars at the bottom to fix the space .. EVElopedia < add this to your sig to show u WANT it back
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 279	Posted - 2016.03.25 17:05:53 - [273] - Quote I honestly have no idea why it's doing that.. Then again, I don't recommend minimizing the clients. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 279	Posted - 2016.04.05 12:25:11 - [274] - Quote So it's a sad day to post this, but with how work is going (ie: super busy) and the changes to certain things in EVE now and projected in the future I'm essentially retiring from EVE. I'm dropping all my accounts except for my main (this one) and will no longer need to use a program like EVE-O Preview. And since IRL work is where I mainly made progress on this program and I have no more time, I've essentially stopped all development on this. Does it work? Yes. Are there bugs? Yes. But that's why the source code is there. What I can say is that if CCP improves the game back to the point that I actually ENJOY EVE again, I'll be back. It's a sad day in my book. I've loved this game for nearly 7 years but I discovered last week that I no longer care about it. I'll try to answer any questions yall have on EVE-O Preview, but it won't be regularly and I won't be tinkering on the program most likely. Fly safe space pals. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Astrid Farnsworth Broke and Famous 4	Posted - 2016.04.07 04:33:30 - [275] - Quote Sad day, sad day.
Hamasaki Cross Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy 3	Posted - 2016.04.09 17:20:31 - [276] - Quote Another victim of CCP "improvements" Sad to see you go mate.
Astrid Farnsworth Broke and Famous 4	Posted - 2016.04.16 04:16:42 - [277] - Quote Guess we will need someone to pick up the proyect or wait till someone learn C#???
NinjaTurtle Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 108	Posted - 2016.04.20 05:18:47 - [278] - Quote tempted to pick up c sharp for this, i really am. thanks for giving it a go all the same
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 279	Posted - 2016.04.26 13:28:28 - [279] - Quote You're all quite welcome. I'll be quite honest, it's the IRL issues at the moment more than anything. But if I'm not enjoying the game, I can't justify 6 accounts and if I dont' have multiple accounts, I can't really test this program, now can I? I'm going to coast on one account until 2017 when the citadels finish and the mining gets updated and see the state of the universe. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Jarno Midumulf Riders of Sleipnir 14	Posted - 2016.04.28 08:52:50 - [280] - Quote i have tested the program last couple days and i have to say, its an amazing tool you have build! i am a C# dev my self so i would be happy to help whit the program!

xatob 0.0 Massive Dynamic Violence of Action. 2	Posted - 2016.05.02 13:11:49 - [281] - Quote So for some reason Windows wont open the program so i had to downgrade it to 1.17 and now when i move the preview boxes they just stack and wont let me move then and place them around the screen where i want them. Any help from anyone would be great. I would love to use this with all 7 accounts on 2 screens. Thanks
Jarno Midumulf Riders of Sleipnir 14	Posted - 2016.05.02 15:24:16 - [282] - Quote xatob wrote: So for some reason Windows wont open the program so i had to downgrade it to 1.17 and now when i move the preview boxes they just stack and wont let me move then and place them around the screen where i want them. Any help from anyone would be great. I would love to use this with all 7 accounts on 2 screens. Thanks can you define "wont open"?
xatob 0.0 Massive Dynamic Violence of Action. 2	Posted - 2016.05.02 15:28:34 - [283] - Quote Jarno Midumulf wrote: xatob wrote: So for some reason Windows wont open the program so i had to downgrade it to 1.17 and now when i move the preview boxes they just stack and wont let me move then and place them around the screen where i want them. Any help from anyone would be great. I would love to use this with all 7 accounts on 2 screens. Thanks can you define "wont open"? I now can get the program to open and it makes the smaller preview boxes. But when i drag one to my second screen they all snap under each other. When i move one they all follow. Ive tried different older ver. and they all do the same. move one and they all move. Ive been googling to see if it a windows issue but i cant seem to find a fix. Like i said i had it working yesterday so i did a restore to see if that would help and nothing. 1 of 2 problems fixed.
Jarno Midumulf Riders of Sleipnir 14	Posted - 2016.05.03 21:37:54 - [284] - Quote xatob wrote: I now can get the program to open and it makes the smaller preview boxes. But when i drag one to my second screen they all snap under each other. When i move one they all follow. Ive tried different older ver. and they all do the same. move one and they all move. Ive been googling to see if it a windows issue but i cant seem to find a fix. Like i said i had it working yesterday so i did a restore to see if that would help and nothing. 1 of 2 problems fixed. are you now on the latest version? what windows version are you on?
Marik Tew Kraken Up Industries 0	Posted - 2016.05.07 11:17:08 - [285] - Quote I actually have the same issue. My preview windows seem to be stacking and so I can't arrange them. I'm on Windows 10.
Jessie McPewpew U2EZ 8	Posted - 2016.05.08 23:14:32 - [286] - Quote I've had that issue since day one. Sometimes all the previews stay seperate but, most of the time, they are stacked on top of each other.
Astrid Farnsworth Broke and Famous 4	Posted - 2016.05.09 22:33:57 - [287] - Quote Jessie McPewpew wrote: I've had that issue since day one. Sometimes all the previews stay seperate but, most of the time, they are stacked on top of each other. that happens when you lounch and then he remember where you set it after selecting the user, each user is different so is your account have other toon and you set it up whit one of them you have to re set it for the current character you are login in. This is how i have it set up have work fine for me remembering where i set my toons. http://puu.sh/oM9pb/16079f7e3c.png
Jarno Midumulf Riders of Sleipnir 14	Posted - 2016.05.12 11:37:30 - [288] - Quote it is true indeed that it will only work after you log in whit a character. once you log in whit a character, the name off the client will change to have the name off the character. after that the program can tell where to place the window. or do you guys have to problem after you log in whit all the characters? if so, can you describe how i can reproduce this bug?
Astrid Farnsworth Broke and Famous 4	Posted - 2016.05.13 03:13:48 - [289] - Quote Jarno Midumulf wrote: it is true indeed that it will only work after you log in whit a character. once you log in whit a character, the name off the client will change to have the name off the character. after that the program can tell where to place the window. or do you guys have to problem after you log in whit all the characters? if so, can you describe how i can reproduce this bug? thats how it work. when i launch he stack all one over the other, but when i select character it go where it belong.
SeneschaI Ordo Ministorum Violent Society 17	Posted - 2016.05.18 08:48:00 - [290] - Quote right on. nice to see this is being kept current. Never wanted to ever use ISboxer, and never will, so i'm glad to be able to use this again after a year's hiatus. I currently run this character off a laptop and 3 alts on my PC. i don't reallly need this program since i'm used to using the lowest resolution and the 'memory' preset for graphics, and have gotten used to the severe lack of sexy graphics. I have however noticed i like to use my laptop for fanfest videos (and other stuff like that) along with chat programs, and am using my PC for forum browsing (and other stuff like that) and i remembered being able to have small windows stacked vertically on the far left of my screen to keep an eye on things...and that's my motivation for downloading again. thanks!

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah Black Cat And White Cat 0	Posted - 2016.06.08 12:21:48 - [291] - Quote Hello space pilots The EVE O Preview project is not abandoned. With kind permission of Makari Aeron I've taken it over. Currently I am working on the major code rewrite (and fixing the bugs added during it). In the next few weeks EVE-O Preview 2.0 will see the light. A new forum thread will be created then (as I won't be able to update the header post here). Until then if you have any questions or just want to see the changed code feel free to mail me in-game. Fly safe
Astrid Farnsworth Broke and Famous 4	Posted - 2016.06.08 20:32:00 - [292] - Quote Hey @phrynohyas tig-rah when you have the pos up link it here so mod cans clouse it and we will mirate to that one. - one option that i stay waiting is when you selectan preview that the selected one appear like whit color border so you know which one is it. - and an option to automaticly display the preview in vertical or orizontal colums no matter the user is under, right know he only remember the account that you previusly open. Thanks man so much for taking over this great app.
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah Black Cat And White Cat 1	Posted - 2016.06.15 17:53:53 - [293] - Quote As I've overtaken the EVE-O Preview development the new topic is https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=484927
Astrid Farnsworth Broke and Famous 4	Posted - 2016.06.16 00:35:58 - [294] - Quote Could someone please lock this.
Leucy Kerastase 650BN 31	Posted - 2016.06.16 05:09:07 - [295] - Quote Astrid Farnsworth wrote: Could someone please lock this. Maybe Phrynohyas could "Report" the first post of this thread stating his intention to take over the project on a new thread, which will render this thread redundant.


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