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Angelina Starchild
Prigogine Technologies Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:31:00 -
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View Blog Here
I'm sorry for the great delay, some minor issues were experienced. This week's a little bit special so I made some cool graphics. Maybe not all too expected by some but well not much more to say really.
I hope you are satisfied with this report, I know I am atleast :)
Thanks for all the support recieved so far during my journey, it's been great! -
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Arktaos
Minmatar The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.09.05 07:18:00 -
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Woah, these forums are scamtastic lately
Want to spoil the curious with all the BPO's you got now? - - - - - - - - - - I got lost somewhere along the road.... |
Sayamana
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Posted - 2006.09.05 07:27:00 -
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Edited by: Sayamana on 05/09/2006 07:27:12
Nicely done and nice graph, no drama, very clean
Yarr ! You have been sC4m0rz3d
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Marodi Julita
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Posted - 2006.09.05 13:40:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=reply&threadID=389021
Notice that it's located in balle where PRIG is set up...
yeah.... most probably
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:10:00 -
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i feel sorry for felix.
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Kindred Storm
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:19:00 -
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I bought a lot of shares based on this report score :(
[PRIG]-report added by Erfnam on August 9, 2006, 9:16 am Report Details Assets: - Expenses: - Revenues: - Evaluation:
PRIG has recently changed ownership due to Felix being forced to take a RL leave from EVE. Angelina Starchild has assumed the role of CEO. Prior to the change over, PRIG had consistently posted strong weekly dividends. Since the change, PRIG has taken on more staff and significantly more orders. This coupled with them taking advantage of fuel saving practices, the weekly dividend has increased. PRIG anticipates several long term clients to keep profits at least at their current level for the next few months.
The market for custom research is a booming industry with new companies entering almost every week. There is no data to size of this market and if/when it will become saturated. IPO price for this stock was 5,000 isk. With the current trend of roughly 5% dividend per week (based upon IPO price), this stock is a decent buy up to 4-5x IPO price. Current market orders are at 8-12x IPO price, resulting in a monthly dividend below 3%.
Dividend: 0.00 ISK per share Score: 85%
Not even a month gone by :(
I cannot find any other reports on this company?
I will not be dealing in shares again in this game, everything is scams and the brokers corrupt?
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JuQuan
Rakeriku
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:42:00 -
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This is a real shame. Felix did a good job getting this going and had good intentions.
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Angelina Starchild
Prigogine Technologies Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:56:00 -
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I didn't even know that Erfnam had written that somewhere, was a good read now though.
Just to make it clear, the DTS Alliance were not in any way aware of my actions or plans or involved in it. Perhaps they said some kind words that made someone invest in the shares that otherwise wouldn't have. Other than that they have not been involved.
You may feel bad about your shares loosing it value, however, the BPO's handed to me are worth many times as much as any shares would cost.
Most of my actions ever within Daikoku and before it was launched has been purely honest without any bad intent and for some time I planned to continue that way. However, when realising the vast amount of isks handed over without any other collateral than my word made a twist in my head and made me go for a run.
Some of the people that I stole of are (in-game) friends of mine since a few years back. They are good people, but I guess everything has its price. So, it's been said many times and I say it again - Don't trust anyone.
Over and out. -
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Alaph Force
Gallente Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:19:00 -
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Well I guess IPOs and other such stuff just isn't eant to work in EvE. At least until we find a way of holding people accountable for their actions.
Ah well, you want to avoid scams stick to the market, buy......sell......no scaming EvE Sigfiles |
Level4
Minmatar Red Frog Investments Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:38:00 -
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You make me sick Angelina/Ervinia Daisy and other alts you have... I guess that is what you get for helping ppl in Eve. What has this game turned into ?
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Feronia
Gallente Magma Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Angelina Starchild Some of the people that I stole of are (in-game) friends of mine since a few years back. They are good people, but I guess everything has its price.
Its a shame some people value a few bill virtual money above a long-term friendship. What good will your money do you, if you lost all your ingame friends, credibility and reputation.
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Erfnam
Time Cube Syndicate Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Angelina Starchild I didn't even know that Erfnam had written that somewhere, was a good read now though.
And this is why I don't like writing reports. Even those you think you can trust end up disappointing you.
Quote: Just to make it clear, the DTS Alliance were not in any way aware of my actions or plans or involved in it. Perhaps they said some kind words that made someone invest in the shares that otherwise wouldn't have. Other than that they have not been involved.
You didn't have to loot the holding corp's wallet to prove this.
Quote: You may feel bad about your shares loosing it value, however, the BPO's handed to me are worth many times as much as any shares would cost.
I can attest to BPO losses, he got away with my Raven BPO.
Quote: Most of my actions ever within Daikoku and before it was launched has been purely honest without any bad intent and for some time I planned to continue that way. However, when realising the vast amount of isks handed over without any other collateral than my word made a twist in my head and made me go for a run.
We all have a theorectically price. I guess your number was rather low. Your current actions negate the legitimacy of any prior actions. In my mind, it was all a build up to a scam.
Quote: Some of the people that I stole of are (in-game) friends of mine since a few years back. They are good people, but I guess everything has its price. So, it's been said many times and I say it again - Don't trust anyone.
This is what saddens me the most.
To add to the list of alts, Eric Gordon.
Casino - [TCCS] |
Elange4
Haven Industries Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:04:00 -
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I just plain do not know what to say to this. I want to cuss, question, and apologize simultaneously.
Apologize because I may have lent legitimacy to the project thru posts about your progress on Trader's Lounge...
Cuss and Question because you, Angelina, have let down the entire market, real friends, and simply the Spirit of EvE.
The beauty of the game is that it is an economy, and particularly that it is Player Driven in gameplay AND Development. This whole scamming syndrome betrays the trust that CCP has put in us as players and co-producers of EvE.
Should it mean we have to turn to the mere game-mechanics for any sense of stability, then it is YOU, Angelina, (plus Cally, and maybe five others), who have played a good part in killing the young soul we as a community have been nurturing.
This is the first time I have ever mauled the forum with brutal verbiage. **** You, Angelina.
--Elange4
Trader's Lounge - Finance Street No Alts please - you must register in-game |
Suzuna Taki
Caldari Equitus Nosferatum Praetorians
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Angelina Starchild Don't trust anyone.
Don't do as she (or he, doesn't matter) says. She can run with your money, but don't let her run with your faith in people. I want to believe that for each scammer there are plenty of honest businessmen.
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AceOfSpace
Myth...
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Suzuna Taki
Originally by: Angelina Starchild Don't trust anyone.
Don't do as she (or he, doesn't matter) says. She can run with your money, but don't let her run with your faith in people. I want to believe that for each scammer there are plenty of honest businessmen.
o/ I'm an honest businessman! You can tell because I have no money -where there's an ace, there's a way- |
Pluppo
Red Frog Investments Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:02:00 -
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I am very dissapointed to hear that you have chosen to be a scammer Angelina. No matter what you say about your honest relation with your ex-alliance, you have shamed the Daikoku Trade Syndicate. I was very proud of being part of a trader's alliance that had a very good reputation, based on honesty and fair play. I am a bit shocked to learn that this didn't mean much to you at all. I've always believed that the trader's most valuable asset is being honest and trustworthy.
I hope that your scam will not put the Daikoku Trade Syndicate in a bad light, so that it affects us honest traders.
Oh, and you can keep my BPO's... I don't want them back.
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Cherybol
Trader's Academy Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:24:00 -
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You could have made way more money in the long run if you just went with the flow and operated it like a legit buisness that felix had in mind.
Thank god I didn't team up with Felix. I could have lost my POS's. Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 24000 bytes maxium rule. Yours is currently 58244 bytes. -Ivan K |
De Mont
Trader's Academy Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:35:00 -
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I lost nothing in terms of ISK because of this - I wasnt an investor or customer with [PRIG], and the multiple scams that have happened recently haven't really bothered me - it's part of the game as far as I see. However this has hurt me. Many people (even you Angelina) have worked hard to make the Daikoku Trade Syndicate trusted and respected. By your actions above, you undermine all the efforts of the DTS, both now, and in the future and that hurts us. As traders we are all chasing profit, but I'd like to think we value our community and the opportunities that it presents higher.
Do not think that you can absolve yourself through an 'My Alliance had nothing to do with this...' post. The fact remains that you were strongly associated with us and so your actions reflect on us regardless. If you post on these forums again, at least have the decency not to use a DTS sig.
De Mont
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 05/09/2006 20:49:41 Hmm, how much in assets did you steal?
I am honestly suprised that someone with your name and (maybe more important) your former Alliance tag would care about a couple billions. So far we have a Raven BPO, a full set of fighter BPO, some cruisers and a small RnD POS. Unless there are some HAC BPOs or a full capital ship BPO set, thats not really anything worth mentioning.
For me, everything has a price - good friends start around a t. Thats why i am a bit suprised by this.
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Veleena
Amarr Eve Intergalactic Bank Investments
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:49:00 -
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Job well done. congrats
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JP Moregain
Gallente EVE Reserve Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Angelina Starchild
blah blah blah Sorry I am lazy but I am taking what my 'friends' have worked hard to build up, both ISK and credibility...
No, this was not well done. Well done would have been making the business a success because that is clearly harder to do.
I guess this kind of 'gameplay' is now officially part of EVE.
I bet you go to bed tonight with a great sense of accomplishment....
Sad really.
JP
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Veleena
Amarr Eve Intergalactic Bank Investments
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Posted - 2006.09.05 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: JP Moregain
No, this was not well done. Well done would have been making the business a success because that is clearly harder to do.
I guess this kind of 'gameplay' is now officially part of EVE.
I bet you go to bed tonight with a great sense of accomplishment....
Sad really.
JP
Actually it is well done. Well done because Angelina took advantage of your trust and used it against you. with decent results, plus those BPO's are worth a little bit extra now due to the research thats been done on them.
Are you people really this stupid just to hand over valueables with no possibility of recouping your investment as and when you want to?
Angelina seen an opportunity to gain control of a pedigree business and capitalize on its credibility value by increasing her wealth. Its a dog eat dog world for sure.
Congratz to joining the few in EVE who actually have brains and use them well.
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Angelina Starchild
Prigogine Technologies
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Posted - 2006.09.05 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Angelina Starchild on 05/09/2006 22:30:10
Originally by: Veleena Job well done. congrats
Thanks, you didn't do too bad either :)
Want to cook something up for the future?
Edit: I wouldn't say it was very well done, it could've been better. But I'm satisfied so well, Well done in one sense and poor in another.
If I would've bothered I'd most likely been able to grab even more stuff. However, some of all these BPO's were needed by my other main aswell as some extra capital to mass produce it. -
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Cherybol
Trader's Academy Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 22:48:00 -
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Nothing to be proud of, or worked up about. This isn't what i classify as a scam. This is what i clasify as a corp theft. She didn't use social engineering. She was just presented with the door to a huge pile of assets, and she took them. Nothing more, nothing less. CEO's, directors, and people of power have this ability to, they don't do it. But angelina did, hence, shes just a corp theif.
Nothing to see here folks, lets just let this story die. Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 24000 bytes maxium rule. Yours is currently 58244 bytes. -Ivan K |
Devestor
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Posted - 2006.09.05 22:49:00 -
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^^^ QFT
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AceOfSpace
Myth...
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Posted - 2006.09.05 23:16:00 -
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It seems to me that lately this kind of thing is becoming... well... trendy.
People steal some stuff and that's all well and good (it's their choice to exchange their friends for other assets)... but then they come on the forum and are so SMUG about it
It's always the same.. pride to the point of smugness, and the idea that what's been done is in some way very cool. It's not cool, it's just a way to make isk for a very hefty cost to your character's value. Good for you. Go play the game and stop writing about it as if it's some unique and brilliant achievement -where there's an ace, there's a way- |
Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 06/09/2006 00:35:24
Sickening. Just sickening.
I didn't give PRIG any of my BPOs, as they would not give collateral. I guess I was right.
The fact that CCP refuses to create any contractual system to allow a proper financial market, however, makes this all quite expected. Expect these stupid, pointless scams to continue until CCP realizes that no real market can happen until they end.
Scamming should involve careful accounting fraud and sneaking through holes in contracts, not simply deciding one day "hey I'll run away with the money!" and doing so.
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Gaius Sejanus
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.06 02:10:00 -
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I lost a small amount (hair over 3 million, figuring in the dividends received), which is not the sad part.
The sad part is Angelina ****ing on her reputation, the DTS' reputation, and most of all...Felix, who got screwed with his pants on in a way that is completely out of his control.
Of course, there's the issue of Prigogine being more profitable to operate than to steal from. So in addition to all the other stupidity involved, it was a horrible business decision too.
Taking advantage of someone with a serious medical condition. I honestly cannot come up with anything more repugnant than that.
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2006.09.06 02:10:00 -
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I would guess most of the people hurt by this one are his former alliance mates and "friends" who both put bpo's into the service Felix setup before he got ill and had first tabs on the shares Felix sold.
Very sad.
Taur
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Jits
Time Cube Syndicate Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 02:56:00 -
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Do you feel proud of this? All you are is a small time corp thief you dont even deserve to be called a scammer , no better than an ore thief. Ohhh big bad Angelina watch out! Wow now all of EVE just thinks your plain pathetic...congrats on being a pathetic thief
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