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Firvain
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Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.04 14:52:58 -
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Damn I loved my teams. Will be sad to see them go. It was very good for ship production. I have to admit that I did not use them often for module production, but module production is usually an on the spur of the momemnt thing and the delay in aquiring teams makes that kinda hard.
But yeah for capital ships there was some real competition going on getting teams as they would save you alot of money. Also it fucks up my spreadsheets not having teams, that is annoying :( |
Firvain
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.06 21:44:07 -
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So whats happenign to the "Push/Pull effect" of industry that Crius was all about. Now we just have a push effect with Index and no more pull effects to draw people to a place.
Teams are pretty amazing, I dont do that much high sec industry as its mostly in nullsec, But when ever I build in highsec I always looked where what teams are available and what the index is, then compare that to the range from jita and find a nice spot to build. And not beeing afraid to move around when better teams show up in a system with lower Index.
People say its hard to move industry around? Is it really? You use up the minerals and move your bpo's. BPO's are easy to move. The minerals are a pain yes, but you just need to import new ones and use up the old ones at your old location.
Now in the new system all i get to look at is index and that isnt nearly as fun or interesting |
Firvain
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.08 20:22:04 -
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probag Bear wrote:Venix wrote:Are we going to be able to reopen petitions about this broken system then?
Many people have lost a lot of ISK due to the really subpar interface that came with the bidding system. I know that I lost hundreds of millions due to a simple typo and there was no safety measure or cancelation feature built in like there is in every other system.
Overall, how about some refunds for the much wasted isk that those of us who wanted to test this live feature out had to suffer? I lost about 7.5bil because my team was bugged, and disappeared 7 days before its stated retirement time. I got a 100mil GM refund without even asking though, so everything worked out in the end.
They refunded the cost for the team. So how did you end up losing 7.5 bill? |
Firvain
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Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.08 20:54:01 -
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probag Bear wrote:Firvain wrote:probag Bear wrote:Venix wrote:Are we going to be able to reopen petitions about this broken system then?
Many people have lost a lot of ISK due to the really subpar interface that came with the bidding system. I know that I lost hundreds of millions due to a simple typo and there was no safety measure or cancelation feature built in like there is in every other system.
Overall, how about some refunds for the much wasted isk that those of us who wanted to test this live feature out had to suffer? I lost about 7.5bil because my team was bugged, and disappeared 7 days before its stated retirement time. I got a 100mil GM refund without even asking though, so everything worked out in the end. They refunded the cost for the team. So how did you end up losing 7.5 bill? I had to temporarily lower my profit margin for a week while I waited for the next team.
So instead of halting production, you chose to activly lose money? Seems like a smart thing to do |
Firvain
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.08 21:45:04 -
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Lady Rift wrote:Firvain wrote:probag Bear wrote:Firvain wrote:
They refunded the cost for the team. So how did you end up losing 7.5 bill?
I had to temporarily lower my profit margin for a week while I waited for the next team. So instead of halting production, you chose to activly lose money? Seems like a smart thing to do Re read that. He sold at a lower profit margin than he would of normally meaning he missed out on 7.5bil in profits. He still got profit from everything just not maximum profit
So isntead of massive profit he got a bit less profit.. So he didnt lose anything he just didnt gain as much... |
Firvain
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Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:31:46 -
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Fifth Blade wrote:Firvain wrote:So isntead of massive profit he got a bit less profit.. So he didnt lose anything he just didnt gain as much... "In microeconomic theory, the opportunity cost of a choice is the value of the best alternative forgone, in a situation in which a choice needs to be made between several mutually exclusive alternatives given limited resources. Assuming the best choice is made, it is the "cost" incurred by not enjoying the benefit that would be had by taking the second best choice available" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost
What is economics? You can't explain that!
Oh god, not this opportunity cost thing again... |
Firvain
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.16 08:15:37 -
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Jake Rivers wrote:I noticed a few people ***** because they claim its hard to tell the difference between typing 1000000 (1mil) or 1000000000 (1bil) I mean this has been eve forever and if you can't take the time to figure out how to count a few zero's you have no one to blame but yourself for that. Learn to type and count and bids like the one I noticed today just will not happen. It certainly is not an reason to ditch a interesting part of the game. http://i.imgur.com/Ffa35au.png
Who says that was a mistake? Maybe he wanted to pay 1 bill for the team. It is a 2.5% component team that saves quite a bit on minerals for a capital.
Calculate what a team is worth for you and and how much profit you can make with one, then use some of that profit to buy the team and voila 9 out of 10 times you get that team.
If you are complaining about snipers then you just havent bid enough, simple as that. Stop lowballing a team with 50 mil isk when it saves you 500 mil a week. Throw in 500 mil and look you have gotten yourself a team. It takes 1 week to make that back and the other 3 weeks of production will grant you a nice 1.5 bill bonus |
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