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Grand Mal Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:07:00 - [31] Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got **ed? Or for any other reason what if he got **ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him? Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? So far I have done the SMART thing and haven't told him my name or corporation or whatnot. For the sake of my own job, I won't even tell you what company or industry I work for. But I do know his alliance, his corp, and where he hangs... maybe one day when he leaves that pile of papers on my desk or asks me to come in on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be doing that Sunday. Try deleting the cookies from your workstation next time you post, Dan. Oh, and by the way, owned. John
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:10:00 - [32] Originally by: Grand Mal Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got **ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him? Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? So far I have done the SMART thing and haven't told him my name or corporation or whatnot. For the sake of my own job, I won't even tell you what company or industry I work for. But I do know his alliance, his corp, and where he hangs... maybe one day when he leaves that pile of papers on my desk or asks me to come in on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be doing that Sunday. Try deleting the cookies from your workstation next time you post, Dan. Oh, and by the way, owned. John whooops ------- Originally by:** Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:44:00 - [33] Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 05/09/2006 16:45:34 Originally by: Leverton If he were to be fired over that, he wouldn't come out and say "you're fired because you podded me." He would simple say "you're fired"; no explanation, no reason. (They can do that, he's your boss.) Like I said ... only in a country with REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if you fire someone without a justifiable reason (incompetency, breach of contract, theft) ... you'll be up in court before you can say BoB. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:45:00 - [34] Originally by: Scoundrelus Edited by: Scoundrelus on 05/09/2006 15:25:55 In Canada, employees have a 3 month probationary period when they start in which they can be fired with no reason given. Its true that employers cannot fire an employee without a legitimate reason, however an employer can force you to quit by making your life miserable. So in a way, they CAN fire you for no/stupid reason. And be sued for constructive dismissal, and STILL have to fork out a great wodge of cash to you. (In the UK, anyway .... we actually care about people here.) ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
qrac Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:51:00 - [35] Originally by: Grand Mal Try deleting the cookies from your workstation next time you post, Dan. Oh, and by the way, owned. John Nice try alt! -------------------------------------------
Flax Volcanus Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:53:00 - [36] My boss makes too much money to bother playing EVE. He'd just buy CCP and declare that he won the game.
Gustovness Broken Cannon	Posted - 2006.09.05 17:02:00 - [37] What if you were CEO of your corp, and found out that YOUR BOSS WAS ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS? Oh man, that'd be great :) I would start to treat him EXACTLY as he treated me at work. Of course, he wouldn't know it was me, but I'm sure it'd freak him the hell out if I chew him out ingame using the same phrases that he'd use on me, especially on the same day that I get chewed out! lmao! Ahh, I think my boss will soon be recieving an anonymous 14-day trail for eve Broken Cannon is RECRUITING! Click here!
Olivaw Sebiestor Solar Wind Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.05 17:09:00 - [38] Well, my boss recruited me to EVE, set me up with 10 million ISK and let me loose. The only problem i have at work are those that don¦t play EVE ***************************************************
Sylvia Frost Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.09.05 17:15:00 - [39] I introduced Eve to the CEO of my company and now he plays regularly. Fortunately he is my dad and I have the freedom to do whatever! Yo pops, gotta head home for a bit, forgot to train a skill.....
Michiyo Daishi Royal Knights of Khanid	Posted - 2006.09.05 17:44:00 - [40] Originally by: Sylvia Frost Yo pops, gotta head home for a bit, forgot to train a skill..... oh god I can only wish... - want a sig like mine? 5m! Woot first, maybe Eris will poke it later - Xorus I¦ll be gentle *WHIPS* that was me being gentle -eris I'm in an eris whips and chains sig - RAWR! - Immy
Jacob Holland Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.09.05 18:18:00 - [41] With apologies to Scott Adams
Dnaltrop Nogero	Posted - 2006.09.05 18:53:00 - [42] an unfortunate turn of phrase few seem to be familiar with in the US. (and applys to a shocking variety of jobs) "At-will employment" you can be fired on a whim for no reason whatsoever. It's when people start trying to show that there WAS a reason that things get sticky. (Lawyers, FORWARD MAAARRRCH!!!) My vote goes for podding the boss tho, shows initiative. ~~~~ Men often decieve themselves in believing that by humility, they can overcome insolence. She's not your satellite, she doesn't miss you.
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.09.05 19:20:00 - [43] Originally by: GeekWarrior Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got **ed? Or for any other reason what if he got **ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him? Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ] Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB. It's called At-Will Employment here in the USA and yes you can be fired for no reason at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment I'd love to listen to the court testimony of somone arguing they were fired for an event in a virtual world though correct, you can be fired for any reason at all the USA....the lawmakers, a.k.a. the business owners (or the politicians they OWNED), ensured this...but you can sue for wrongful dismissal (nice that some of the judges were not OWNED by businesses). I know this for a fact, because I have sued for it, and won, recieving all the backpay and the legal cost. now as to providing game info to your boss... I wouldn't let my boss know who i was in the game. I would hire mercs to hunt him if he was silly enough to tell me... I would never play a game at work (some BOFH like me might have keyloggers on all the pc's...☺). I also monitor all network traffic....and would have to fire myself...gads, why oh why am I such a BOFH!!!☺ FRODO HAS FAILED; BUSH HAS THE RING!!! The HippoKing spots a new post
Paari Cuman	Posted - 2006.09.05 19:26:00 - [44] (hmmm, dont think I've ever made a thread that got so many views...) I don't think we could play at work, even if I really begged him to. I have got caught looking at EVEMon while at work, but he had mistaken it as some Windows-based game. Now only if I had known he was into EVE I wouldn't have gotten reamed out the a$$ by another supervisor which is his lackey... But then again, he did tell me this story about a former worker getting fired over playing EVE way to much. He came in 2 hours late all the time because he had to get that bonus for his lvl 4 mish, he'd say. He told me he sympathized with him for a while, but after doing it a couple of times he had realized and I quote: "Lvl 4 bonuses are crap, why the hell is he not sleeping over that!" I noticed the Dev Team made a post, are you guys listening now?
Bawldeux IV Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.05 19:26:00 - [45] Originally by: Michiyo Daishi Originally by: Sylvia Frost Yo pops, gotta head home for a bit, forgot to train a skill..... oh god I can only wish... sigh...I used to be my own boss (owned own company) but S happens and now work for someone while I rebuild my capital to relaunch. (medical problems, insurance gouge, and tax's...bad combo to get hit with all at once) I would sit in my pajama's playing Eve, and talk on the phone, remote admin their networks/domains....sigh....the good old days will return.... How to move your T2 bpo's
Scarib	Posted - 2006.09.05 19:57:00 - [46] Just for the record unless you got some backing, you stand little chance of winning in court in the UK. Far from looking after its worker's we are seen as cheap low skilled labour in most countries, I had a problem at work and went to my union after some time they admitted they were powerless to do anything. This is true and many wonÆt believe it but my solicitor told me (top man from union) if I was female or any other ethnic group they would be able to bring a case, but all funding has been removed and legal aid is only for the rich. In disbelief I went to another solicitor and he checked and confirmed the same, itÆs very hard to bring a case in the UK.
Suria Windtalker	Posted - 2006.09.05 20:04:00 - [47] basically I work for this MILF, she is my boss/booty call. nothin like removin the stigma of a boss like tappin it from behind. btw is that sexual harasment?
NUKUNNI TRADING Amarr	Posted - 2006.09.05 20:24:00 - [48] We all play Half-Life II death match at work in the lunch hour.... I've tried getting them interested in Eve, but I think they are pretty much dyed-in-the-wool FPS players That said I think Eve at work would be hard to walk away from. Hell, I struggle to step away from the PC when the cat brings in a live mouse, or one of the kids comes in with a cut knee "not now, I'm trying to get past a gate camp" As far as worrying about your boss reaping vengeance because of something that happened in game.. don't be daft
Thut'ankh Amon Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.05 20:42:00 - [49] Originally by: Grand Mal Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got **ed? Or for any other reason what if he got **ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him? Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? So far I have done the SMART thing and haven't told him my name or corporation or whatnot. For the sake of my own job, I won't even tell you what company or industry I work for. But I do know his alliance, his corp, and where he hangs... maybe one day when he leaves that pile of papers on my desk or asks me to come in on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be doing that Sunday. Try deleting the cookies from your workstation next time you post, Dan. Oh, and by the way, owned. John sadly non of my coworkers play eve - they seek to prefer medal of honour There can be only one Amon
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.09.05 20:58:00 - [50] Originally by: Scarib Just for the record unless you got some backing, you stand little chance of winning in court in the UK. Far from looking after its worker's we are seen as cheap low skilled labour in most countries, I had a problem at work and went to my union after some time they admitted they were powerless to do anything. This is true and many wonÆt believe it but my solicitor told me (top man from union) if I was female or any other ethnic group they would be able to bring a case, but all funding has been removed and legal aid is only for the rich. In disbelief I went to another solicitor and he checked and confirmed the same, itÆs very hard to bring a case in the UK. Why were you wasting time and money going to a solicitor? You can bring your own case to an employment tribunal - in fact you're SUPPOSED to, the damn things were set up to save people having to go to the trouble of attending court with a qualified solicitor. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Scorpyn Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.09.05 21:06:00 - [51] Originally by: Eldo Davip I told my boss I stopped playing Eve because he asked me what alliance and corp I was in. Apparently we are in rival alliances. Now when I'm reading the forums at work I have to close the browser if he comes around. I have to pretend I don't play Eve for the sake of my job. I don't get it. Why would you have to pretend to not be playing just because you're in different alliances?
Ghoest	Posted - 2006.09.05 21:17:00 - [52] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got **ed? Or for any other reason what if he got **ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him? Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ] Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB. Thanks for the imput but let the adult who actually have jobs handle this thread ok? In the real world when people fire you for an unfair(or illegal) reason they find a reasonable excuse that wont get them in trouble. Wherever you went - here you are.
Scarib	Posted - 2006.09.05 21:42:00 - [53] Nice of you to reply Baldour, but if you read it again you will see the word UNION as a member of one they will and do take action for you, and every step of employment law was used as required. But in the end they could not proceed to court as even though a valid case was possible, I nor the union could fund it and legal aid has been withdrawn from such cases, UNLESS you are female or an ethnic group. Protest all you want but its true, most people dont realise that past a certain point the cost jump beyond the reach of normal folk
Kim Chee Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.05 22:03:00 - [54] Here in the US, most IT workers are employed by an "at-will" contract. That basically means they can let you go at any time with only 2 weeks warning, for any reason that isn't actually in violation of a law. Of course, if you're in a union or have an actual real contract, YMMV. <=----=> *Vila Restal: I'm entitled to my opinion. Kerr Avon*: It is your assumption that we are entitled to it as well that is irritating.
Esab Caldari Warped Mining	Posted - 2006.09.05 22:10:00 - [55] Originally by: NUKUNNI TRADING I struggle to step away from the PC when the cat brings in a live mouse, or one of the kids comes in with a cut knee "not now, I'm trying to get past a gate camp" Priceless
Larake	Posted - 2006.09.05 22:25:00 - [56] Originally by: Scarib Just for the record unless you got some backing, you stand little chance of winning in court in the UK. Far from looking after its worker's we are seen as cheap low skilled labour in most countries, I had a problem at work and went to my union after some time they admitted they were powerless to do anything. This is true and many wonÆt believe it but my solicitor told me (top man from union) if I was female or any other ethnic group they would be able to bring a case, but all funding has been removed and legal aid is only for the rich. In disbelief I went to another solicitor and he checked and confirmed the same, itÆs very hard to bring a case in the UK. Alas tis true. Happened to me when I was constructively dismissed. Fortunatley the union really fouled up my case, so I ended up suing them instead for their negligence. Ironically the amount they gave me was more than what they said I would have got in a employment tribunal. Posted by an Alt because I signed a Non Disclosure Agreement when the union settled out of court ;) Not enough to live in the Bahamas, but got a nice shiny car with it :)
Lord Sid Minmatar Lordless	Posted - 2006.09.06 05:04:00 - [57] Friend of mine is a teacher at a highschool. He heard his students talking about playing eve. I think he hunted them down and killed them. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=-
Mr Happ Gallente Hellbound Saints	Posted - 2006.09.06 05:18:00 - [58] Originally by: Leverton Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got **ed? Or for any other reason what if he got **ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him? Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ] Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB. If he were to be fired over that, he wouldn't come out and say "you're fired because you podded me." He would simple say "you're fired"; no explanation, no reason. (They can do that, he's your boss.) No He can't, standard law states he must have a VALID reason that MUST be VALID in the workplace and effect you WORK performance. If he fires you anywhere, in most stable countries, you could sue for unfair dismissal We need a YEAR without ANY 'new content'. Nothing but BUG FIXES. New content that does not work is WORTHLESS.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2006.09.06 05:29:00 - [59] Originally by: Rodj Blake I'm glad that my boss doesnn't play Eve. He'd keep hassling me for tips on how to do things. Like undocking... My boss is around 35-40 year old and he thinks that games are for kiddies and that only mentally retardted people plays 'em. I don't tell him that I pay for 3 online game accounts. Unnerf Amarr! "Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
franny Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.09.06 05:51:00 - [60] I wish this **ty ass company(CDI) would enforce AT-WILL we have a co-worker who smells worse than a dumpster, wears his clothes for days on end, and has NO CLUE how to do his job(if you know MVS/Jes2, you should** know how to drain inits, he's been here for years and still can't), it's to the point noone will train him on the otherhand, it's nice to know I could go braindead, completely stop carring abput personal hygene(sp) and still have a job

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