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Paari Cuman
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:58:00 -
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So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? 
So far I have done the SMART thing and haven't told him my name or corporation or whatnot. For the sake of my own job, I won't even tell you what company or industry I work for.
But I do know his alliance, his corp, and where he hangs... maybe one day when he leaves that pile of papers on my desk or asks me to come in on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be doing that Sunday. 
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ]
Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB. ________________________________________________
"I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked." |

Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:01:00 -
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Where I work, I am the boss, and 4 out of 10 employees that work for me play eve.
Mainly because I keep talking about it, and because our conferance room has a 1600x1200 projector running eve on friday afternoons. :)
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
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Paari Cuman
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:01:00 -
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Thanks. I didn't know that. But I'm not sure if America has caught up to that idea yet...
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jamesw
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:01:00 -
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haha.
I would create/buy an alt and hunt him constantly. --
NEW Vid: Domi For the Win! |

Paari Cuman
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake Where I work, I am the boss, and 4 out of 10 employees that work for me play eve.
Mainly because I keep talking about it, and because our conferance room has a 1600x1200 projector running eve on friday afternoons. :)
Wow. Can I work for you? I promise I won't sleep much. 
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coolzero
Gallente Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake Where I work, I am the boss, and 4 out of 10 employees that work for me play eve.
Mainly because I keep talking about it, and because our conferance room has a 1600x1200 projector running eve on friday afternoons. :)
any job opening :P 
Jack of all trades, master of none... Horizon-Inc (dutch only) |

Leverton
Caldari Research Associates
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ]
Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB.
If he were to be fired over that, he wouldn't come out and say "you're fired because you podded me." He would simple say "you're fired"; no explanation, no reason. (They can do that, he's your boss.) -- The universe is governed by the aggressive use of force. Hows this for a little note! Oh, and YARRRRR!! - Petwraith I prefer the term RAWR - Xorus |

Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:07:00 -
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It's not really bad until you pod him during workhours 
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Kastar
Chronodynamics
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:07:00 -
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It's not so much a problem that he can not fire you for such a thing. It's rather the fact that the OP doesn't want to have his boss be mad, annoyed or frustrated because of the hypothetical clash ingame. While you might not be fired, it's never good to have the boss mad at you, it's not that black/white and I do understand the question.
It's a rare situation though. To be honest, I'd never mix job and passtime like that and I wuoldn't give away my ingame identity. -----------------------------------------------
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Dixon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:10:00 -
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You could hunt him, kill his ship, scramble his pod and demand a raise. - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other... |

Clavain Gobuchul
Minmatar Conjoined
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:10:00 -
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If he's in charge, then he should be professional enough to leave game issues in game and not take it out on you at work.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:10:00 -
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My char name is not of any concern for my boss - as long as I am not working for ccp, I guess.
Keeping work and none-work separated normally helps a lot. --*=*=*--
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Gericault m0id
Contention Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Paari Cuman Thanks. I didn't know that. But I'm not sure if America has caught up to that idea yet...
What? The birth place of civil litigation 
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Sul Condbax
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dixon You could hunt him, kill his ship, scramble his pod and demand a raise.
  
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OMG Celizatis
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:18:00 -
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I'm trying to get my supervisor to play Eve.... he's a big RPG fan already. I think I can convert him if I give him the free 14 day trial. 
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Leverton
If he were to be fired over that, he wouldn't come out and say "you're fired because you podded me." He would simple say "you're fired"; no explanation, no reason. (They can do that, he's your boss.)
Actually, they can't. They have to give a reason, even if they make one up. And then if they make it up and get found out when you sue them, they're in even deeper water.
Alternatively they can make you redundant, and never be able to hire anyone in your place, and pay you for the privilege. Time off work ftw :)
Originally by: D'Hofren The amazing boost amarr thread with it's amorphic elastic maths
Scrapheap Challenge!
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Scoundrelus on 05/09/2006 15:25:55 In Canada, employees have a 3 month probationary period when they start in which they can be fired with no reason given. Its true that employers cannot fire an employee without a legitimate reason, however an employer can force you to quit by making your life miserable. So in a way, they CAN fire you for no/stupid reason.
But hey, you think YOU have it bad, my boss plays WoW... ===============================================
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Maximillian Pele
Caldari Jewel Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:26:00 -
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You could join his corporation in game, gain his trust in game, and then pull off a massive corp theft in game.
Then repeat the above in real life.
The Grand Cayman Islands don't have extradition treaties but do have the internet and beaches.
In times of doubt I ask myself "What would BoB do?", and then do the opposite. |
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finnz.

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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? 
So far I have done the SMART thing and haven't told him my name or corporation or whatnot. For the sake of my own job, I won't even tell you what company or industry I work for.
But I do know his alliance, his corp, and where he hangs... maybe one day when he leaves that pile of papers on my desk or asks me to come in on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be doing that Sunday. 
I have the same problem... I don't tell my boss i play EvE!
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Xelios
Minmatar Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:30:00 -
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Yeah I can just imagine, you're whoring a lvl 4 mission at work when suddenly a convo pops up "JOHNSON!! Why aren't you WORKING?!!" 
The new BFG.
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 05/09/2006 15:31:38
Originally by: Paari Cuman asks me to come in on Saturday
Umm yeah, Im afraid I have to ask you to come in on sunday as well. That would be just great.
I wish I was your boss....or in other words.....be glad im not your boss
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:36:00 -
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I told my boss I stopped playing Eve because he asked me what alliance and corp I was in. Apparently we are in rival alliances.
Now when I'm reading the forums at work I have to close the browser if he comes around. I have to pretend I don't play Eve for the sake of my job.
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xeom
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Pele You could join his corporation in game, gain his trust in game, and then pull off a massive corp theft in game.
Then repeat the above in real life.
The Grand Cayman Islands don't have extradition treaties but do have the internet and beaches.
Sounds like a plan. ---
CCP where are our t2 shield power relays?
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Jernau Gurgeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus Its true that employers cannot fire an employee without a legitimate reason, however an employer can force you to quit by making your life miserable. So in a way, they CAN fire you for no/stupid reason.
In the UK, that would be classed as "constructive dismissal" and would get you an even greater amount of moolah in the courtroom.
There are 10 sorts of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who do not. |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:39:00 -
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I'm glad that my boss doesnn't play Eve.
He'd keep hassling me for tips on how to do things.
Like undocking...
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |

Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ]
Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB.
firing people without no reasonable cause = you pay the fired guy ALLOT or he hits the courts and you have to pay even more.
at least here in europe (yes it's an european regulation applyed to many european countries). It's a cool law and the employees like it. They like it so much that a few months back they tried to change it in france somewhat.
....the manifestations were as intense as it was in the all-famous may '68 -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Apollo Balthar
Minmatar The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake Where I work, I am the boss, and 4 out of 10 employees that work for me play eve.
Mainly because I keep talking about it, and because our conferance room has a 1600x1200 projector running eve on friday afternoons. :)
I would make them mine for me on friday afternoons...
This post represent my own, my Corporation's, my mother's and my father's, my mates' and the royal families'point of view.
Now shut up and be happy!
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GeekWarrior
Gallente Isotope Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ]
Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB.
It's called At-Will Employment here in the USA and yes you can be fired for no reason at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
I'd love to listen to the court testimony of somone arguing they were fired for an event in a virtual world though  ----------------------------- EVE Addict |

Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: GeekWarrior I'd love to listen to the court testimony of somone arguing they were fired for an event in a virtual world though 
Oh hell, imagine what the papers would do with it!
Hell, the interview fees would be ... well you can dream.
----- Russell T Davies is my master now. |

Grand Mal
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? 
So far I have done the SMART thing and haven't told him my name or corporation or whatnot. For the sake of my own job, I won't even tell you what company or industry I work for.
But I do know his alliance, his corp, and where he hangs... maybe one day when he leaves that pile of papers on my desk or asks me to come in on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be doing that Sunday. 
Try deleting the cookies from your workstation next time you post, Dan.
Oh, and by the way,
owned.
John
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Grand Mal
Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? 
So far I have done the SMART thing and haven't told him my name or corporation or whatnot. For the sake of my own job, I won't even tell you what company or industry I work for.
But I do know his alliance, his corp, and where he hangs... maybe one day when he leaves that pile of papers on my desk or asks me to come in on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be doing that Sunday. 
Try deleting the cookies from your workstation next time you post, Dan.
Oh, and by the way,
owned.
John
whooops -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 05/09/2006 16:45:34
Originally by: Leverton
If he were to be fired over that, he wouldn't come out and say "you're fired because you podded me." He would simple say "you're fired"; no explanation, no reason. (They can do that, he's your boss.)
Like I said ... only in a country with REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if you fire someone without a justifiable reason (incompetency, breach of contract, theft) ... you'll be up in court before you can say BoB. ________________________________________________
"I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked." |

Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus Edited by: Scoundrelus on 05/09/2006 15:25:55 In Canada, employees have a 3 month probationary period when they start in which they can be fired with no reason given. Its true that employers cannot fire an employee without a legitimate reason, however an employer can force you to quit by making your life miserable. So in a way, they CAN fire you for no/stupid reason.
And be sued for constructive dismissal, and STILL have to fork out a great wodge of cash to you. (In the UK, anyway .... we actually care about people here.) ________________________________________________
"I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked." |

qrac
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Grand Mal
Try deleting the cookies from your workstation next time you post, Dan.
Oh, and by the way,
owned.
John
Nice try alt! 
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Flax Volcanus
Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:53:00 -
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My boss makes too much money to bother playing EVE. He'd just buy CCP and declare that he won the game.  |

Gustovness
Broken Cannon
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Posted - 2006.09.05 17:02:00 -
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What if you were CEO of your corp, and found out that YOUR BOSS WAS ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS? Oh man, that'd be great :)
I would start to treat him EXACTLY as he treated me at work. Of course, he wouldn't know it was me, but I'm sure it'd freak him the hell out if I chew him out ingame using the same phrases that he'd use on me, especially on the same day that I get chewed out! lmao!
Ahh, I think my boss will soon be recieving an anonymous 14-day trail for eve 
Broken Cannon is RECRUITING! Click here! |

Olivaw Sebiestor
Solar Wind Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.05 17:09:00 -
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Well, my boss recruited me to EVE, set me up with 10 million ISK and let me loose. The only problem i have at work are those that don¦t play EVE 
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Sylvia Frost
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.09.05 17:15:00 -
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I introduced Eve to the CEO of my company and now he plays regularly.
Fortunately he is my dad and I have the freedom to do whatever!
Yo pops, gotta head home for a bit, forgot to train a skill.....
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Michiyo Daishi
Royal Knights of Khanid
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Posted - 2006.09.05 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sylvia Frost Yo pops, gotta head home for a bit, forgot to train a skill.....
oh god I can only wish... -
want a sig like mine? 5m! Woot first, maybe Eris will poke it later - Xorus I¦ll be gentle *WHIPS* that was me being gentle -eris
I'm in an eris whips and chains sig - RAWR! - Immy |

Jacob Holland
Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:18:00 -
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With apologies to Scott Adams
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Dnaltrop Nogero
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:53:00 -
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an unfortunate turn of phrase few seem to be familiar with in the US. (and applys to a shocking variety of jobs)
"At-will employment"
you can be fired on a whim for no reason whatsoever.
It's when people start trying to show that there WAS a reason that things get sticky. (Lawyers, FORWARD MAAARRRCH!!!)
My vote goes for podding the boss tho, shows initiative. ~~~~ Men often decieve themselves in believing that by humility, they can overcome insolence. She's not your satellite, she doesn't miss you.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: GeekWarrior
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ]
Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB.
It's called At-Will Employment here in the USA and yes you can be fired for no reason at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
I'd love to listen to the court testimony of somone arguing they were fired for an event in a virtual world though 
correct, you can be fired for any reason at all the USA....the lawmakers, a.k.a. the business owners (or the politicians they OWNED), ensured this...but you can sue for wrongful dismissal (nice that some of the judges were not OWNED by businesses).
I know this for a fact, because I have sued for it, and won, recieving all the backpay and the legal cost.
now as to providing game info to your boss...
I wouldn't let my boss know who i was in the game. I would hire mercs to hunt him if he was silly enough to tell me...
I would never play a game at work (some BOFH like me might have keyloggers on all the pc's...☺). I also monitor all network traffic....and would have to fire myself...gads, why oh why am I such a BOFH!!!☺
FRODO HAS FAILED; BUSH HAS THE RING!!! The HippoKing spots a new post |

Paari Cuman
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:26:00 -
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(hmmm, dont think I've ever made a thread that got so many views...)
I don't think we could play at work, even if I really begged him to. I have got caught looking at EVEMon while at work, but he had mistaken it as some Windows-based game. Now only if I had known he was into EVE I wouldn't have gotten reamed out the a$$ by another supervisor which is his lackey...
But then again, he did tell me this story about a former worker getting fired over playing EVE way to much. He came in 2 hours late all the time because he had to get that bonus for his lvl 4 mish, he'd say. He told me he sympathized with him for a while, but after doing it a couple of times he had realized and I quote:
"Lvl 4 bonuses are crap, why the hell is he not sleeping over that!"
I noticed the Dev Team made a post, are you guys listening now? 
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Bawldeux IV
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:26:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Michiyo Daishi
Originally by: Sylvia Frost Yo pops, gotta head home for a bit, forgot to train a skill.....
oh god I can only wish...
sigh...I used to be my own boss (owned own company) but S happens and now work for someone while I rebuild my capital to relaunch. (medical problems, insurance gouge, and tax's...bad combo to get hit with all at once)
I would sit in my pajama's playing Eve, and talk on the phone, remote admin their networks/domains....sigh....the good old days will return....
How to move your T2 bpo's |

Scarib
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:57:00 -
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Just for the record unless you got some backing, you stand little chance of winning in court in the UK. Far from looking after its worker's we are seen as cheap low skilled labour in most countries, I had a problem at work and went to my union after some time they admitted they were powerless to do anything.
This is true and many wonĘt believe it but my solicitor told me (top man from union) if I was female or any other ethnic group they would be able to bring a case, but all funding has been removed and legal aid is only for the rich.
In disbelief I went to another solicitor and he checked and confirmed the same, itĘs very hard to bring a case in the UK.
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Suria Windtalker
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:04:00 -
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basically I work for this MILF, she is my boss/booty call. nothin like removin the stigma of a boss like tappin it from behind. btw is that sexual harasment? 
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NUKUNNI TRADING
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:24:00 -
[48]
We all play Half-Life II death match at work in the lunch hour.... I've tried getting them interested in Eve, but I think they are pretty much dyed-in-the-wool FPS players
That said I think Eve at work would be hard to walk away from. Hell, I struggle to step away from the PC when the cat brings in a live mouse, or one of the kids comes in with a cut knee "not now, I'm trying to get past a gate camp"
As far as worrying about your boss reaping vengeance because of something that happened in game.. don't be daft 
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Thut'ankh Amon
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:42:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Grand Mal
Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? 
So far I have done the SMART thing and haven't told him my name or corporation or whatnot. For the sake of my own job, I won't even tell you what company or industry I work for.
But I do know his alliance, his corp, and where he hangs... maybe one day when he leaves that pile of papers on my desk or asks me to come in on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be doing that Sunday. 
Try deleting the cookies from your workstation next time you post, Dan.
Oh, and by the way,
owned.
John
 sadly non of my coworkers play eve - they seek to prefer medal of honour 
There can be only one Amon
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Scarib Just for the record unless you got some backing, you stand little chance of winning in court in the UK. Far from looking after its worker's we are seen as cheap low skilled labour in most countries, I had a problem at work and went to my union after some time they admitted they were powerless to do anything.
This is true and many wonĘt believe it but my solicitor told me (top man from union) if I was female or any other ethnic group they would be able to bring a case, but all funding has been removed and legal aid is only for the rich.
In disbelief I went to another solicitor and he checked and confirmed the same, itĘs very hard to bring a case in the UK.
Why were you wasting time and money going to a solicitor? You can bring your own case to an employment tribunal - in fact you're SUPPOSED to, the damn things were set up to save people having to go to the trouble of attending court with a qualified solicitor. ________________________________________________
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Scorpyn
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Eldo Davip I told my boss I stopped playing Eve because he asked me what alliance and corp I was in. Apparently we are in rival alliances.
Now when I'm reading the forums at work I have to close the browser if he comes around. I have to pretend I don't play Eve for the sake of my job.
I don't get it. Why would you have to pretend to not be playing just because you're in different alliances?
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ]
Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB.
Thanks for the imput but let the adult who actually have jobs handle this thread ok?
In the real world when people fire you for an unfair(or illegal) reason they find a reasonable excuse that wont get them in trouble.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Scarib
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:42:00 -
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Nice of you to reply Baldour, but if you read it again you will see the word UNION as a member of one they will and do take action for you, and every step of employment law was used as required.
But in the end they could not proceed to court as even though a valid case was possible, I nor the union could fund it and legal aid has been withdrawn from such cases, UNLESS you are female or an ethnic group.
Protest all you want but its true, most people dont realise that past a certain point the cost jump beyond the reach of normal folk
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Kim Chee
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 22:03:00 -
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Here in the US, most IT workers are employed by an "at-will" contract. That basically means they can let you go at any time with only 2 weeks warning, for any reason that isn't actually in violation of a law.
Of course, if you're in a union or have an actual real contract, YMMV.
<=----=> Vila Restal: I'm entitled to my opinion. Kerr Avon: It is your assumption that we are entitled to it as well that is irritating.
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Esab
Caldari Warped Mining
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Posted - 2006.09.05 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: NUKUNNI TRADING
I struggle to step away from the PC when the cat brings in a live mouse, or one of the kids comes in with a cut knee "not now, I'm trying to get past a gate camp"
Priceless   
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Larake
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Posted - 2006.09.05 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Scarib Just for the record unless you got some backing, you stand little chance of winning in court in the UK. Far from looking after its worker's we are seen as cheap low skilled labour in most countries, I had a problem at work and went to my union after some time they admitted they were powerless to do anything.
This is true and many wonĘt believe it but my solicitor told me (top man from union) if I was female or any other ethnic group they would be able to bring a case, but all funding has been removed and legal aid is only for the rich.
In disbelief I went to another solicitor and he checked and confirmed the same, itĘs very hard to bring a case in the UK.
Alas tis true. Happened to me when I was constructively dismissed. Fortunatley the union really fouled up my case, so I ended up suing them instead for their negligence. Ironically the amount they gave me was more than what they said I would have got in a employment tribunal.
Posted by an Alt because I signed a Non Disclosure Agreement when the union settled out of court ;) Not enough to live in the Bahamas, but got a nice shiny car with it :) |

Lord Sid
Minmatar Lordless
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Posted - 2006.09.06 05:04:00 -
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Friend of mine is a teacher at a highschool. He heard his students talking about playing eve.
I think he hunted them down and killed them. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=- |

Mr Happ
Gallente Hellbound Saints
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Posted - 2006.09.06 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Leverton
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? ]
Only if you live in a country with really, really, REALLY stupid laws. In the UK, if he fires you because of something that happened in an online game, he'd be up in court before you could say BoB.
If he were to be fired over that, he wouldn't come out and say "you're fired because you podded me." He would simple say "you're fired"; no explanation, no reason. (They can do that, he's your boss.)
No He can't, standard law states he must have a VALID reason that MUST be VALID in the workplace and effect you WORK performance. If he fires you anywhere, in most stable countries, you could sue for unfair dismissal We need a YEAR without ANY 'new content'. Nothing but BUG FIXES.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2006.09.06 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake I'm glad that my boss doesnn't play Eve.
He'd keep hassling me for tips on how to do things.
Like undocking...
My boss is around 35-40 year old and he thinks that games are for kiddies and that only mentally retardted people plays 'em.
I don't tell him that I pay for 3 online game accounts.  
Unnerf Amarr! "Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.09.06 05:51:00 -
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I wish this ****ty ass company(CDI) would enforce AT-WILL
we have a co-worker who smells worse than a dumpster, wears his clothes for days on end, and has NO CLUE how to do his job(if you know MVS/Jes2, you should know how to drain inits, he's been here for years and still can't), it's to the point noone will train him
on the otherhand, it's nice to know I could go braindead, completely stop carring abput personal hygene(sp) and still have a job
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Wrayeth
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 07:02:00 -
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Well, as far as being able to fire you for no reason, it really depends on where you live. For instance, here in the U.S., Arizona is a "right to work" state. The laws that make it a "right to work" state were originally intended to protect employees from unfair practices by their employers, but had so many riders attached and revisions made that it's more a "right to fire" state, instead. This means that, AFAIK, your employer does not have to have a reason to fire you - he or she can just go ahead and do it.
In your situation (and if you live in Arizona), the only way you could sue him would be if he came out and told you WHY he was firing you (i.e. that you killed him in an online game). -Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.06 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 06/09/2006 07:28:38 i don't have a job or a boss who plays eve, but i managed to get a flatmate of mine to defect from ascn to us 
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Rick Dentill
Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.06 07:48:00 -
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Edited by: Rick Dentill on 06/09/2006 07:50:38
Originally by: Scoundrelus Edited by: Scoundrelus on 05/09/2006 15:25:55 In Canada, employees have a 3 month probationary period when they start in which they can be fired with no reason given. Its true that employers cannot fire an employee without a legitimate reason, however an employer can force you to quit by making your life miserable. So in a way, they CAN fire you for no/stupid reason.
But hey, you think YOU have it bad, my boss plays WoW...
In the UK this would be good grounds for constructive dismissal. I actually work in the public sector and within the service it is very difficult to fire someone so yay for me. I have seen this first hand as I was involved in a disciplinary (not on me ). I have also seen some pretty crappy workers in my time that drive management up the wall! _______
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Ruyter
Digital Horizons Unbrella Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.06 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Grand Mal
Originally by: Paari Cuman So I found out the other day that my boss plays EVE. Belongs to a very big alliance in game. Some people might think that is really cool, you can talk about EVE during lunch or at work. But consider the scenario where say you are both jumping thru 0.0 space and you get jumped by some pirates and you happen to warp out but your RL boss is left behind. What if he got ****ed? Or for any other reason what if he got ****ed at you. Then you come into work the next day and have to see him?
Do you give him ISKies to keep your job? 
So far I have done the SMART thing and haven't told him my name or corporation or whatnot. For the sake of my own job, I won't even tell you what company or industry I work for.
But I do know his alliance, his corp, and where he hangs... maybe one day when he leaves that pile of papers on my desk or asks me to come in on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be doing that Sunday. 
Try deleting the cookies from your workstation next time you post, Dan.
Oh, and by the way,
owned.
John
omg teh fun 
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xStormwingx
Caldari Unwritten Atrocity
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Posted - 2006.09.06 20:31:00 -
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while you'd be able to pod yer boss for annoying you in rl, couldn't this **** him off more? D:
Originally by: Locke DieDrake Where I work, I am the boss, and 4 out of 10 employees that work for me play eve.
Mainly because I keep talking about it, and because our conferance room has a 1600x1200 projector running eve on friday afternoons. :)
hahaha, locke, that's _awesome_.
Quote: You could hunt him, kill his ship, scramble his pod and demand a raise.
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Angel Vrae
Gallente Storm Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.06 20:41:00 -
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hmm, two of my bosses play eve *points at tsvong lah and chip2k3* they introduced me to eve. and Commander Lah introduced me to the corp im in :p ---
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2006.09.06 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake Where I work, I am the boss, and 4 out of 10 employees that work for me play eve.
Mainly because I keep talking about it, and because our conferance room has a 1600x1200 projector running eve on friday afternoons. :)
Wish I had a boss like you
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Insidi Us
Amarr The Imperial Commonwealth
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Posted - 2006.09.06 21:01:00 -
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My boss is like 49 or 50, and we both play tons of games. Of course he makes boatloads of money compared to me (like 150k plus ) so he goes and buys a top of the line Alienware computer every year. I keep telling him those are a waste of money and you can make your own for half the price, and he says, "And?" ARRRRRHGGGGHHH
We both played WoW for a while, but he was on the opposite faction so I ganked his lowbie ass and /spit on his corpse. I had data entry for a week  ----------------- Information overload. |
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