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Ortu Konsinni KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:43:00 - [1] This is a simple question before anyone thinks this is flamebait or whatever. I just want to know and that's it. /paranoia So recently I've been wondering what happened to FIX. I know they're still alive. They've simply disappeared from Joshua Foiritain's map and I remember them claiming Querious. But now (and I know it's been so for a while already) it's just BoB in Querious. Has FIX simply been accepted by BoB as "residents" of Querious while BoB claims sovereignty or something? That's my conclusion based on what I can see but I really don't know and am simply curious. I haven't looked at the sovereignty map in-game before posting this topic so please bear with me. Thanks in advance for informative answers. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
EvilNate Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:48:00 - [2] Do not take my word as gospel, but they are basically under BoB's roof. Querious is owned by BoB, FIX live there and control it, with certain limitations. As to what they are actualy doing, I'm not sure and was pondering this myself. -------- www.bydi.org - Mercanaries for Hire
EvilNate Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:48:00 - [3] Do not take my word as gospel, but they are basically under BoB's roof. Querious is owned by BoB, FIX live there and control it, with certain limitations. As to what they are actualy doing, I'm not sure and was pondering this myself. -------- www.bydi.org - Mercanaries for Hire
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:57:00 - [4] Basically the way we see it in Q. It's almost entirely populated by FIX with very few BoB (at least in core). BoB seem to have sovereignty though.
EvilNate Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:58:00 - [5] Edited by: EvilNate on 08/09/2006 13:58:21 meh -------- www.bydi.org - Mercanaries for Hire
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:03:00 - [6] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/09/2006 14:05:27 We are doing quite well. BoB don't really have anything to do with us... they own sovereignty in three systems, and we own sovereignty in about 20. BoB hardly even visits Querious, so we're pretty much on our own there fighting off AAA and the like. The only difference that the "BoB deal" has made in our daily lives is that now we have to watch a few corps who BoB is charging to use the region ("renters") strip the belts in systems we don't care about. Basically, everything is pretty much how it was before with some small changes. For those interested, from what I know, the deal was something like this: 1. BoB doesn't kill FIX, because BoB likes FIX and would rather not wipe us out (they could if they wanted to, obviously, as they could wipe out pretty much anyone else). 2. BoB owns the three stations and charges us very minimal fees to use them (renters get far higher fees). 3. FIX is required to defend the region. BoB will not help FIX, because BoB are not FIX's babysitters. Nor are we paying BoB for the region. It is entirely our job to keep the region secure, and nobody else's. 4. FIX will not recruit loads of small corporations and dilute its leadership structure. BoB will keep oversight to ensure that FIX's leadership stays streamlined and able to deal with possible future crises. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Ortu Konsinni KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:23:00 - [7] Well, that was what I wanted to know, thanks. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
EvilNate Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:24:00 - [8] Originally by: Dark Shikari snip Out of interest, are you allowed to run the complexes in the Querious regoin? Nate. -------- www.bydi.org - Mercanaries for Hire
Dust Angel True Core	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/09/2006 14:08:37 We are doing quite well. BoB don't really have anything to do with us... they own sovereignty in three systems, and we own sovereignty in about 20. BoB hardly even visits Querious, so we're pretty much on our own there fighting off AAA and the like. The only difference that the "BoB deal" has made in our daily lives is that now we have to watch a few corps who BoB is charging to use the region ("renters") strip the belts in systems we don't care about. Basically, everything is pretty much how it was before with some small changes. For those interested, from what I know, the deal was something like this: 1. BoB doesn't kill FIX, because BoB likes FIX and would rather not wipe us out (they could if they wanted to, obviously, as they could wipe out pretty much anyone else). 2. BoB owns the three stations and charges us very minimal fees to use them (renters get far higher fees). There are no station docking fees for us, repairs are very cheap, refining tax is 3%, and factory cost is like 100k per day. 3. FIX is required to defend the region. BoB will not help FIX, because BoB are not FIX's babysitters. Nor are we paying BoB for the region. It is entirely our job to keep the region secure, and nobody else's. 4. FIX will not recruit loads of small corporations and dilute its leadership structure. BoB will keep oversight to ensure that FIX's leadership stays streamlined and able to deal with possible future crises. null Your soverignty point is moot. BoB owns the stations, and you suckle off bob. _____________________________________ Stressed out with empire politics? Sansha's Nation helps clear your mind.
MacDuncan Minmatar Unknown Society	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:43:00 - [10] Edited by: MacDuncan on 08/09/2006 14:43:06 Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/09/2006 14:08:37 1. BoB doesn't kill FIX, because BoB likes FIX and would rather not wipe us out (they could if they wanted to, obviously, as they could wipe out pretty much anyone else). 2. BoB owns the three stations and charges us very minimal fees to use them (renters get far higher fees). There are no station docking fees for us, repairs are very cheap, refining tax is 3%, and factory cost is like 100k per day. 3. FIX is required to defend the region. BoB will not help FIX, because BoB are not FIX's babysitters. Nor are we paying BoB for the region. It is entirely our job to keep the region secure, and nobody else's. 4. FIX will not recruit loads of small corporations and dilute its leadership structure. BoB will keep oversight to ensure that FIX's leadership stays streamlined and able to deal with possible future crises. So...basicaly...you're miningslaves for BoB? And you're for sure paying BoB for the region in form of the station fees/taxes/rentals...and since they do not need to do ANYHTING at all it's a nice trade off i would say... ;-) --
nickky01 No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:53:00 - [11] Originally by: Dust Angel Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/09/2006 14:08:37 We are doing quite well. BoB don't really have anything to do with us... they own sovereignty in three systems, and we own sovereignty in about 20. BoB hardly even visits Querious, so we're pretty much on our own there fighting off AAA and the like. The only difference that the "BoB deal" has made in our daily lives is that now we have to watch a few corps who BoB is charging to use the region ("renters") strip the belts in systems we don't care about. Basically, everything is pretty much how it was before with some small changes. For those interested, from what I know, the deal was something like this: 1. BoB doesn't kill FIX, because BoB likes FIX and would rather not wipe us out (they could if they wanted to, obviously, as they could wipe out pretty much anyone else). 2. BoB owns the three stations and charges us very minimal fees to use them (renters get far higher fees). There are no station docking fees for us, repairs are very cheap, refining tax is 3%, and factory cost is like 100k per day. 3. FIX is required to defend the region. BoB will not help FIX, because BoB are not FIX's babysitters. Nor are we paying BoB for the region. It is entirely our job to keep the region secure, and nobody else's. 4. FIX will not recruit loads of small corporations and dilute its leadership structure. BoB will keep oversight to ensure that FIX's leadership stays streamlined and able to deal with possible future crises. null Your soverignty point is moot. BoB owns the stations, and you suckle off bob. BoB owns the stations, but FIX does a very good job defending them...take a trip down to 9CG sometime if you think FIX are just mining slaves... but you better take a big gang /miss fighting FIX :(
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:56:00 - [12] Don't forget at the time BoB took the region FIX had in all intents and purposes lost it. Their last stronghold in 9CG was falling and it was back to empire for them. BoB comes along, offers them a good deal and why not take it? Anyway they seem to be alive and kicking and no doubt still making raids into Catch although I'm sure they miss me being red on their overview.
Machiavelli7 Gallente Obsidian Asylum Pure.	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Dark Shikari blah So Speaketh the FIX Ambassador to Jita.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:13:00 - [14] /emote wonders what direction this thread will eventually take...
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:14:00 - [15] Originally by: Machiavelli7 Originally by: Dark Shikari blah So Speaketh the FIX Ambassador to Jita. Of course not all the FIX at the time thought this was a good move. Hope you survived taking your gf to an eve meeting m8.
Kyguard Our Brothers Five 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Dark Shikari 3. FIX is required to defend the region. BoB will not help FIX, because BoB are not FIX's babysitters. Nor are we paying BoB for the region. It is entirely our job to keep the region secure, and nobody else's. Quote: 4. FIX will not recruit loads of small corporations and dilute its leadership structure. BoB will keep oversight to ensure that FIX's leadership stays streamlined and able to deal with possible future crises. BoB aren't your babysitters, but they control who is in command in FIX? Sounds like babysitters. === God is on the side with the best artillery.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:32:00 - [17] Originally by: Dust Angel Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/09/2006 14:08:37 We are doing quite well. BoB don't really have anything to do with us... they own sovereignty in three systems, and we own sovereignty in about 20. BoB hardly even visits Querious, so we're pretty much on our own there fighting off AAA and the like. The only difference that the "BoB deal" has made in our daily lives is that now we have to watch a few corps who BoB is charging to use the region ("renters") strip the belts in systems we don't care about. Basically, everything is pretty much how it was before with some small changes. For those interested, from what I know, the deal was something like this: 1. BoB doesn't kill FIX, because BoB likes FIX and would rather not wipe us out (they could if they wanted to, obviously, as they could wipe out pretty much anyone else). 2. BoB owns the three stations and charges us very minimal fees to use them (renters get far higher fees). There are no station docking fees for us, repairs are very cheap, refining tax is 3%, and factory cost is like 100k per day. 3. FIX is required to defend the region. BoB will not help FIX, because BoB are not FIX's babysitters. Nor are we paying BoB for the region. It is entirely our job to keep the region secure, and nobody else's. 4. FIX will not recruit loads of small corporations and dilute its leadership structure. BoB will keep oversight to ensure that FIX's leadership stays streamlined and able to deal with possible future crises. null Your soverignty point is moot. BoB owns the stations, and you suckle off bob. We do indeed own the stations. We did so, originally, to prevent our enemies from using them. Do we insist that FIX use them? No. Do we insist FIX refine at our refineries? No. Do FIX get a completely free roam of Querious? Yes. Have we had to involve ourselves in Q since we took it? No. So ya'll thought that FIX were an easy mark, a nice easy way to BoB central. Well, they aren't. Primarily because, well, they just are_not an easy mark and, secondly, if you ever get past them, you've gotta get past us AND them. Any wonder why no major invasions have since occurred? No, nor me. FIX did what they had to do and, as far as I know, it wasn't a hard decision. Perhaps you could give them a better one? I look forward to seeing FIX on the sovereignty map once more, for at that point the egg will be well and truely on your face.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Kyguard Originally by: Dark Shikari 3. FIX is required to defend the region. BoB will not help FIX, because BoB are not FIX's babysitters. Nor are we paying BoB for the region. It is entirely our job to keep the region secure, and nobody else's. Quote: 4. FIX will not recruit loads of small corporations and dilute its leadership structure. BoB will keep oversight to ensure that FIX's leadership stays streamlined and able to deal with possible future crises. BoB aren't your babysitters, but they control who is in command in FIX? Sounds like babysitters. We have absolutely ZERO to do with who is in control of FIX. They have their own internal methods of government and BoB has, and will, deal with whoever fixians decide that is. If that's what a babysitter is, then sure, that's us.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:01:00 - [19] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/09/2006 16:02:14 Originally by: EvilNate Originally by: Dark Shikari snip Out of interest, are you allowed to run the complexes in the Querious regoin? Nate. Of course, assuming RAT didn't run them first Originally by: MacDuncan Originally by: Dark Shikari 1. BoB doesn't kill FIX, because BoB likes FIX and would rather not wipe us out (they could if they wanted to, obviously, as they could wipe out pretty much anyone else). 2. BoB owns the three stations and charges us very minimal fees to use them (renters get far higher fees). There are no station docking fees for us, repairs are very cheap, refining tax is 3%, and factory cost is like 100k per day. 3. FIX is required to defend the region. BoB will not help FIX, because BoB are not FIX's babysitters. Nor are we paying BoB for the region. It is entirely our job to keep the region secure, and nobody else's. 4. FIX will not recruit loads of small corporations and dilute its leadership structure. BoB will keep oversight to ensure that FIX's leadership stays streamlined and able to deal with possible future crises. So...basicaly...you're miningslaves for BoB? We don't give them a cent except perhaps those who pay them the minimal factory fees. Basically, we do whatever we want, BoB doesn't bother us as long as we don't ** them off. Not much different than the rest of EVE I would think... --[23] Member-- Originally by:** DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Karash Amerius Amarr O.E.C	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:01:00 - [20] Its basically a vassal state. Merc Blog
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:10:00 - [21] Originally by: Dust Angel Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/09/2006 14:08:37 We are doing quite well. BoB don't really have anything to do with us... they own sovereignty in three systems, and we own sovereignty in about 20. BoB hardly even visits Querious, so we're pretty much on our own there fighting off AAA and the like. The only difference that the "BoB deal" has made in our daily lives is that now we have to watch a few corps who BoB is charging to use the region ("renters") strip the belts in systems we don't care about. Basically, everything is pretty much how it was before with some small changes. For those interested, from what I know, the deal was something like this: 1. BoB doesn't kill FIX, because BoB likes FIX and would rather not wipe us out (they could if they wanted to, obviously, as they could wipe out pretty much anyone else). 2. BoB owns the three stations and charges us very minimal fees to use them (renters get far higher fees). There are no station docking fees for us, repairs are very cheap, refining tax is 3%, and factory cost is like 100k per day. 3. FIX is required to defend the region. BoB will not help FIX, because BoB are not FIX's babysitters. Nor are we paying BoB for the region. It is entirely our job to keep the region secure, and nobody else's. 4. FIX will not recruit loads of small corporations and dilute its leadership structure. BoB will keep oversight to ensure that FIX's leadership stays streamlined and able to deal with possible future crises. null Your soverignty point is moot. BoB owns the stations, and you suckle off bob. Ah, Dust Angel, so bitter. So bitter that you will troll every FIX-related thread and flame me in D-C every time I chat (requiring me to ban you from the channel every single time!). Maybe you didn't like the fact that your favorite alliance, SA, broke up? It takes a fool to claim that alliance X is "babysat" by alliance Y when even alliance Y doesn't believe that (and moreso, Alliance Y never has more than 1 or 2 people in all of Alliance X's region). --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Phrixus Zephyr Singularity.	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:12:00 - [22] Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 08/09/2006 16:12:39 Originally by: Dark Shikari Daddy lets us play in Querious if we promise not to break it again. Fixed.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:26:00 - [23] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/09/2006 16:27:27 Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: Dark Shikari Daddy lets us play in Querious if we promise not to break it again. Fixed. Apparently, according to our killboard, we've podded you 6 times and ganked 13 other ships of yours. Are you bitter? P.S. For all those claiming FIX is dead, you will have a surprise come Kali. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:28:00 - [24] Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 08/09/2006 16:29:49 I have to laugh at most of the posts in here. Once Dark becomes the official spokesperson for FIX you can take what he says to the bank. Otherwise, I would ignore most of what he has posted, along with what most everyone else has posted. Suffice it to say, we have a very mutually beneficial arrangement with BoB, the actual terms of which are not open for public viewing or discussion. Two (2) tidbits of truth in the above posts, though: We generally do as we please in Q, and we do it when and how we please as well. We also do not take kindly to hostile entities in Q space. To the Axiom Empire chap: We were glad to have you as an enemy and are now glad to have you as an ally. Yoda Out I am told the image is properly sized now. Can you confirm please?
DigitalCommunist Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:29:00 - [25] Oh noes. 100k isk per day. I can already feel BoB's wallet exploding at the seams. Clearly if we ignored the half dozen outposts, billions of revenue made per day, and hundred ship capital fleet.. the seven hundred man alliance known as Firmus Ixion will have contributed the significant force of one Battlecruiser per month to our arsenal. Seriously, just end yourselves. I'm pretty sure that some BoB stations charge more to its own members. Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:32:00 - [26] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Oh noes. 100k isk per day. I can already feel BoB's wallet exploding at the seams. Clearly if we ignored the half dozen outposts, billions of revenue made per day, and hundred ship capital fleet.. the seven hundred man alliance known as Firmus Ixion will have contributed the significant force of one Battlecruiser per month to our arsenal. Seriously, just end yourselves. I'm pretty sure that some BoB stations charge more to its own members. DC, much <3 my friend. Oh, and your battlecruiser is ready for pick up. I am told the image is properly sized now. Can you confirm please?
Phrixus Zephyr Singularity.	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:36:00 - [27] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/09/2006 16:27:27 Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: Dark Shikari Daddy lets us play in Querious if we promise not to break it again. Fixed. Apparently, according to our killboard, we've podded you 6 times and ganked 13 other ships of yours. Are you bitter? P.S. For all those claiming FIX is dead, you will have a surprise come Kali. Lol. You'll notice 7 of those are Tristans, 5 of them are T1 cruisers. When i started my PvP career Querious and FiX were my PvP classroom in T1 frig and Cruiser gangs. You can have the 7 Tristan's and ill keep the 7 battleship's i got as a newbie.
Audrea Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:54:00 - [28] Originally by: Dark Shikari P.S. For all those claiming FIX is dead, you will have a surprise come Kali. How can you plan surprises for Kali, when its not yet known how exactly factional warfare is going to work? ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
SwindonBadger 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.09.08 17:03:00 - [29] Edited by: SwindonBadger on 08/09/2006 17:05:41 ha ha see u still get flamers following fix on forums,,, sugest if u dont like fix rather then be a squeeky little ferrit on the forums u go see for urself who defends Q phrixzus in one of these ships u now have that is bigger then a triston. remeber about 2 years worth of " u live under fountain, ur there bit***,.... ect ect " and in all my time there we fought with them once,, maybe even at that. I belive bob even thought that for a bit ,, but things changed once they started to fight fix with regards to bob thinking Fix where FA puppets and thats how they got to be friends on the battle field, so ... stop the talking and off u go! tell us how you get on and if its bob or fix killing/being blown up by what must be ur oober skill cos u seem so perky today. ps AV its time I came and payed u a visit..... mwhuhuhuhuuhuhuh
MacDuncan Minmatar Unknown Society	Posted - 2006.09.08 17:07:00 - [30] So....practically FIX = Xelas¦ ? Not wanting to sound rude or so, just out of interest... ;-) --

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