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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:45:00 -
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5nipe wrote: If 3/10 drops price for A-Type to about 100 mils a peace, would I be even bothered with Guristas Watch. Sure thing I will not.
Then you're a silly.
100 mil to go to low sec and pop a destroyer, bookmark can, and warp back after despawn? Thats free money. Vigil is the one that's not worth doing (or at least, one must be very careful).
What do the A-type small reps go for and do people go out to low sec for a chance at them? |

5nipe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:15:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:5nipe wrote: If 3/10 drops price for A-Type to about 100 mils a peace, would I be even bothered with Guristas Watch. Sure thing I will not.
Then you're a silly. 100 mil to go to low sec and pop a destroyer, bookmark can, and warp back after despawn? Thats free money. Vigil is the one that's not worth doing (or at least, one must be very careful). What do the A-type small reps go for and do people go out to low sec for a chance at them?
just calculate the time for expedition (and based on my experience 4 out of 5 drops along the line), get appropriate ship, got to low sec, kill "the overseer", loot (if u a lucky enough to get anything, again 15% drop rate), get back.
Man, for this time, if you know what are you doing, you can make way more than 100M, even in hi sec.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:19:00 -
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5nipe wrote:
just calculate the time for expedition (and based on my experience 4 out of 5 drops along the line), get appropriate ship, got to low sec, kill "the overseer", loot (if u a lucky enough to get anything, again 15% drop rate), get back.
Man, for this time, if you know what are you doing, you can make way more than 100M, even in hi sec.
We're really getting into the "whats worth it for me, may not be worth it for you" area here but...
Tengu, Deep space probing along the way (I see escalations as simply giving you some direction for probing), and an easy escalation in low sec.
Its quite worth it IMO. Vigil not so much as you have to pound away at a station for quite some time.
Also, while I would go if it dropped down to 100 mil, I don't think it will. I think it will settle around the 200m-300m mark, but thats pure speculation. |

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
127
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Posted - 2011.12.02 17:58:00 -
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5nipe wrote:Well, I remeber the time when A-type small SB was about 400 mils. Slowly, prices went up. Why?
Actually, the why is much more on the demand side, not the supply side. Pithi A-types are almost custom-made for the now-ubiquitous PvE Tengu. Hence, higher price. Now we're seeing a supply-side adjustment, though demand isn't going down. Prices will drop; everyone will be happy. |

Mavnas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:29:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:I ran this site twice so far, first time I got Pithi A-type SSB plus DG Rocket Launcher, second time only OPE.
I think this loot is seriously unbalanced regarding the difficulty of the site. Before this patch you had to go to lowsec to get A-type stuff and the sites there require a well-fitted/skilled ship, now a 2 week old noob in a T1 cruiser can farm A-types in hisec. I would be very surprised if this won't have a significant effect on the prices.
I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s.
1/10s drop C-Type small stuff. 2/10s drop B-Type small stuff 3/10s drop A-Type small stuff 4/10s drop C-Type medium stuff and so on...
It was like this before patch. A 2 week old could always farm A-Type stuff in high sec. Though it would be a giant pain trying to do those places with noob skills. Once upon a time I cleared a 3/10 Serp site in a dessy before patch. Took an hour. As I was starting on the final structure, a dude strolled up in a Proteus, took it out in like 10 seconds, and took the loot. After that I never tried to do exploration sites with noob skills and noob ships. Too much risk that someone will just do that instead.
If this were a major problem, A-Type smalls would be cheap. |

Mavnas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.02 23:14:00 -
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Laskeuma wrote:Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:Rob Crowley wrote:I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s. The difference being one is small a-type and the other medium c-type. It's just because of half of EVE running shield and t3's why boosters are that pricey. Go do some 3/10's where armor stuff drops, you will find the value quite different. They will prolly also be coming down in price now (the small boosters), maybe even so much that droprates will be altered. We will see. this, when I was new to eve I used to do exploration around in sepr space, got onyl armor stuff and didint make any isk from it (since its all like 20mil max) then I came to my senses and jumped into angel / guritas space.
The AB from serp space 3/10 is 50m. I know... I got a few of them. But it's weird praying for an AB to drop as opposed to something cooler like a repper.
Quote:What I'm worried about is that risk vs. reward of this new Guristas 3/10 is seriously out of line compared to the other Guristas sites. The old 4/10 is much harder to run, yet the best loot is worth significantly less. (A-type SSB vs. C-type MSB) The old way to get the same A-type SSBs is to chase escalation chains into lowsec, which is much more difficult than this new hisec plex. So I think a more balanced reward for the 3/10 would be a C-type SSB.
No, what would be more balanced is for the A-type SSB to be much cheaper, as it will be after people farm the site. The Armor repper is like 20-30m tops. It won't fall that far because the demand is much higher, but still, small mods shouldn't be that ridiculously expensive.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:29:00 -
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Found the site. Updated OP with info. |

Mnemosyne Gloob
Teshnology Inc. Stealth Wear Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.04 17:40:00 -
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lol so is this putting it in the wrong band only for the guristas one? If so i cry CONSPIRACY! not the first time this particulary faction was treated 'better' than the others ^^ |

Melina Lin
Universal Frog
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Posted - 2011.12.04 18:20:00 -
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Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:If so i cry CONSPIRACY!
Pah, clearly CCP is trying to balance A-Type loot among the factions. They are a just bit clumsy is all. 
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St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.04 21:31:00 -
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I love how the Gurista 3/10 conveniently shares the same strength as the 4/10, whilst all the other 3/10s have to put up with a billion K162s and those ghastly Rogue Drone Asteroid Infestations.
Also, I've done the wiki page for the Guri 3/10, and bug reported the DG Irregular's name being glitched. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.04 23:52:00 -
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St Mio wrote:I love how the Gurista 3/10 conveniently shares the same strength as the 4/10, whilst all the other 3/10s have to put up with a billion K162s and those ghastly Rogue Drone Asteroid Infestations.
Also, I've done the wiki page for the Guri 3/10, and bug reported the DG Irregular's name being glitched.
You bug reported the signature band as well, I trust. |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
161
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Posted - 2011.12.05 05:25:00 -
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B-but I'm still farming Lonetrek!
But yeah, I did report that. Was also considering telling them that Rogue Drone 3/10 spawns in lowsec, but I'd probably just get a "Working as intended" for that |

Bibosikus
Elite United Hard Moose Moose Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.12.05 14:49:00 -
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Went exploring in Sansha space the other night, hit 2 3/10's and 2 4/10's, got 3 escalations (one went to the end) and made half a bill.
Exploration working as intended, thanks CCP:) The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.05 15:21:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Went exploring in Sansha space the other night, hit 2 3/10's and 2 4/10's, got 3 escalations (one went to the end) and made half a bill.
Exploration working as intended, thanks CCP:)
DED's don't escalate. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't mean the escalations were from the 3/10s or 4/10s, just to be clear for those that may be confused, DED's do not escalate. |

Scortched Merc
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:45:00 -
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Found a few 3/10s this weekend... nothing dropped... I sad  E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your tears fuel my internet spaceship. |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.06 12:44:00 -
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Patchnotes say they fixed the DG Irregular's name, quick, someone go find out if they fixed the signature band/strength as well!
Quote:NPCs- Dread Guristas Irregular are now named correctly in the overview.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
237
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Posted - 2011.12.06 16:01:00 -
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I'm back in null sec for now. 50 mil to the person to get me a screenshot of the fixed overseer. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:19:00 -
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Btw, price for the a-type booster is down to 430 mil range right now
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Melina Lin
Universal Frog
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:27:00 -
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Confirming that at the time of this post sig strength is still identical to 4/10. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:29:00 -
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Melina Lin wrote:Confirming that at the time of this post sig strength is still identical to 4/10.
Thank you. |

Melina Lin
Universal Frog
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:51:00 -
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Who in here wanted a screenshot of a rat? |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
237
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:53:00 -
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Isk Transferred.
Good stuff. |

Far'Ronin
Wolves Of Legend Reborn Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.06 19:07:00 -
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9GyRS.jpg[/IMG] Its the story of my life, a day late and a dollar short. Lol. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.06 19:21:00 -
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Sorry |

Bibosikus
Elite United Hard Moose Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.09 02:56:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Bibosikus wrote:Went exploring in Sansha space the other night, hit 2 3/10's and 2 4/10's, got 3 escalations (one went to the end) and made half a bill.
Exploration working as intended, thanks CCP:) DED's don't escalate. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't mean the escalations were from the 3/10s or 4/10s, just to be clear for those that may be confused, DED's do not escalate.
Yes, sorry, the escalations were not from DED's ofc - I also hit a few Watches & Vigils which generated those.
Earlier today I hit an Angel 3/10 and pulled 3 A-type small mods out for 550mill. The wreck even dropped an intact armor plate. I ran the site (just a frigfest) in less than 10 mins (you have to kill all rats to unlock gates) in a Legion using crystals. This sort of site is stupidly easy for skilled players.
I just use DSP's and scan for (with my setup) 0.12 and 0.06 signal strengths. This picks up all 3/10's, 4/10's, Vigils and Watches, as well as Mul-Zatah etc. I find *very* few wh (I think I only pick up X702's) but a fair few gravs. About 25% of the time I get a plex hit.
At one point yesterday I had 7 escalations, mostly from Angel Vigils which only take 2/3 minutes to trigger & complete. I had to let some of them expire, it just wasnt worth running about that much.
So, from my point of view Exploration certainly ain't broken :)
The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
164
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Posted - 2011.12.09 05:30:00 -
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Running locator agent to find where Bibosikus lives so I can also scan for 3/10s without drowning in K162s |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.09 13:59:00 -
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What's the price of the Pithi A-type small booster down to? |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
164
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:40:00 -
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Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster 350m sell 303m buy Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster 365m sell 342m buy (Jita contracts only) |

Mila Rasnik
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:44:00 -
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Just ran the Blood Raiders Information Collection Point DED 3/10 complex, equivalent to the guristas one named in OP.
No faction loot, not even a worthless laser crystal.
Highly annoyed.
Also annoyed I'm getting no salvage from these faction wrecks. Not once in over a week. Is this new? |

Sir Livingston
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:53:00 -
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Mila Rasnik wrote:Just ran the Blood Raiders Information Collection Point DED 3/10 complex, equivalent to the guristas one named in OP.
No faction loot, not even a worthless laser crystal.
Highly annoyed.
Also annoyed I'm getting no salvage from these faction wrecks. Not once in over a week. Is this new?
It's just your luck. Just a couple days ago the wreck drop an enhanced ward console for me in high sec. But...that's the only 1 in an entire week, so...yeah... ^_^
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