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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.29 20:03:00 -
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Someone go find it and tell me how awesome it is. Thanks. |

Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:00:00 -
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Unfortanutely, I cannot scan caldari space while playing Skyrim 
I'll check later on tonight though, wanna see all the shiney changes. In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has angered numerous people for many different reasons and is widely considered as a 'bad move'. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:11:00 -
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Kilrayn wrote:Unfortanutely, I cannot scan caldari space while playing Skyrim  I'll check later on tonight though, wanna see all the shiney changes.
Same. I took a long enough break from Skyrim for Arkham City.
Post pics please GÖÑ |

Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:13:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Someone go find it and tell me how awesome it is. Thanks. In your own words: Go explore! 
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:15:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:Emperor Salazar wrote:Someone go find it and tell me how awesome it is. Thanks. In your own words: Go explore! 
I'm just so busy exploring Skyrim right now. |

Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.11.30 06:20:00 -
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Found one. Got SS's of most info and all rooms. MWD does not work, and gates seemed to be locked, I only reached the gate in 1 room before destroying the room though (due to mwd not working ), so can't say for absolutely sure. All the first rooms are frigs, 1 cruiser in last room, and he was not the overeer. Overseer was a rat with a bugged name, something like [ID 224573], but it was a frig.
I don't use photobucket, or spacebook, but I do have the SS's if anyone is willing to link me an easy way to post them. That would be greatly appreciated. In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has angered numerous people for many different reasons and is widely considered as a 'bad move'. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:38:00 -
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Kilrayn wrote:Found one. Got SS's of most info and all rooms. MWD does not work, and gates seemed to be locked, I only reached the gate in 1 room before destroying the room though (due to mwd not working  ), so can't say for absolutely sure. All the first rooms are frigs, 1 cruiser in last room, and he was not the overeer. Overseer was a rat with a bugged name, something like [ID 224573], but it was a frig. I don't use photobucket, or spacebook, but I do have the SS's if anyone is willing to link me an easy way to post them. That would be greatly appreciated.
Woo. Get the infamous Pithii A-type booster? I'm gonna guess no since you didn't mention it 
If you still want to upload pics, use imgur.com. Screenshots should be saved in your Documents/Eve/Capture folder or something to that effect. Drag and drop on imgur, upload, and copy/paste the link here. |

Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:19:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Kilrayn wrote:Found one. Got SS's of most info and all rooms. MWD does not work, and gates seemed to be locked, I only reached the gate in 1 room before destroying the room though (due to mwd not working  ), so can't say for absolutely sure. All the first rooms are frigs, 1 cruiser in last room, and he was not the overeer. Overseer was a rat with a bugged name, something like [ID 224573], but it was a frig. I don't use photobucket, or spacebook, but I do have the SS's if anyone is willing to link me an easy way to post them. That would be greatly appreciated. Woo. Get the infamous Pithii A-type booster? I'm gonna guess no since you didn't mention it  If you still want to upload pics, use imgur.com. Screenshots should be saved in your Documents/Eve/Capture folder or something to that effect. Drag and drop on imgur, upload, and copy/paste the link here. OPE only of course Probably the rng reminding me who's in charge, lol.
Also, I'll get on imgur once I get home, pics are on home tower. In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has angered numerous people for many different reasons and is widely considered as a 'bad move'. |

joomla alacard
Indifferent Bastards
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:33:00 -
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I found an Angel ded 3, and it was 5 or 6 rooms - i was able to take a battlecruiser in - I saw a similarly bugged overseer in the last room (an ID tag for a name), and even though it didn't drop any "never before seen modules," it dropped a jackpot; Daredevil BPC and a Domination Tracking Enhancer. Very cool end of the night for me, since: a) i've been wanting a daredevil for a while now, and b) the rest of the hour(s) of scanning highsec had resulted in one crap radar site and one crap mag site. |

MissileClub
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 19:40:00 -
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I found the (well, three) Angel 3/10 last night, got a Gistii A booster and AB. Also found two Angel 4/10. Just OSE though. |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2011.11.30 20:34:00 -
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joomla alacard wrote:I found an Angel ded 3, and it was 5 or 6 rooms - i was able to take a battlecruiser in - I saw a similarly bugged overseer in the last room (an ID tag for a name), and even though it didn't drop any "never before seen modules," it dropped a jackpot; Daredevil BPC and a Domination Tracking Enhancer. Very cool end of the night for me, since: a) i've been wanting a daredevil for a while now, and b) the rest of the hour(s) of scanning highsec had resulted in one crap radar site and one crap mag site.
A Daredevil BPC is a glitch in an Angel site. They should be coming out of Serp sites. Drams are what Angels are supposed to drop. Was that a typo or do the loot tables need looking into? |

iKill Giants
Celerna Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:09:00 -
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Also found the Angels 4/10, within minutes of first logging on to Crucible. Sadly, I was in a Jaguar, so I couldn't break the Domination Excavator's tank. |

joomla alacard
Indifferent Bastards
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:31:00 -
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After finally finding some detailed info on the complex through a post on some german eve-scanning site; long story short, the daredevil bpc dropping does not seem like a loot table glitch.
In case you don't want to follow the link:
Quote:To the frustration of the Minmatar Republic, the Angel Cartel quietly enjoys a great deal of success with piracy throughout Republic space. A contributing factor to the Angel's ubiquity is their ability to repurpose as small outposts transition camps.
A Domination Grigori is sent with a small frigate wing to clear out a minor smuggler outpost. Once temporary fortifications are made, the location is further masked with a series of interference broadcasts designed to confound Republic sensors.
DED Threat Assessment: 3 of 10 That was the text in the warp-in pop-up.
Come to think of it, the overseer itself looked like a daredevil in the brief moment I saw it before it blinked out of existence. I would've thoroughly finished the site, but; A) it was like 15 min until downtime, and B) i freaked when i saw a proteus on d-scan as I was warping into the final room, and only quickly glanced for the unique name to shoot on overview and immediately burned towards the (soon-to-be)wreck.
That having been said, I think I may just make my first entry/entries on the eve-wiki(s). |

Cartak Pendragon
Among the Shadows Takahashi Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.30 22:22:00 -
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I forget what it was called, but: 5-6 rooms 15-20 frigates, 1-4 sentry guns last room had a bugged named frigate which was a Dread Guristas Irregular got t7 OPE and nothing worth mentioning |

Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.11.30 22:34:00 -
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reserved for incoming SS's In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has angered numerous people for many different reasons and is widely considered as a 'bad move'. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.01 04:01:00 -
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GÖÑ |

Rob Crowley
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:57:00 -
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I ran this site twice so far, first time I got Pithi A-type SSB plus DG Rocket Launcher, second time only OPE.
I think this loot is seriously unbalanced regarding the difficulty of the site. Before this patch you had to go to lowsec to get A-type stuff and the sites there require a well-fitted/skilled ship, now a 2 week old noob in a T1 cruiser can farm A-types in hisec. I would be very surprised if this won't have a significant effect on the prices.
I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s. |

Mnemosyne Gloob
Teshnology Inc. Stealth Wear Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.01 12:20:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s.
The difference being one is small a-type and the other medium c-type. It's just because of half of EVE running shield and t3's why boosters are that pricey. Go do some 3/10's where armor stuff drops, you will find the value quite different. They will prolly also be coming down in price now (the small boosters), maybe even so much that droprates will be altered. We will see.
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Laskeuma
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.01 12:43:00 -
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Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:Rob Crowley wrote:I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s. The difference being one is small a-type and the other medium c-type. It's just because of half of EVE running shield and t3's why boosters are that pricey. Go do some 3/10's where armor stuff drops, you will find the value quite different. They will prolly also be coming down in price now (the small boosters), maybe even so much that droprates will be altered. We will see.
this, when I was new to eve I used to do exploration around in sepr space, got onyl armor stuff and didint make any isk from it (since its all like 20mil max)
then I came to my senses and jumped into angel / guritas space. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.01 12:43:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:I ran this site twice so far, first time I got Pithi A-type SSB plus DG Rocket Launcher, second time only OPE.
I think this loot is seriously unbalanced regarding the difficulty of the site. Before this patch you had to go to lowsec to get A-type stuff and the sites there require a well-fitted/skilled ship, now a 2 week old noob in a T1 cruiser can farm A-types in hisec. I would be very surprised if this won't have a significant effect on the prices.
I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s.
Players set the price unfortunately.
A-type small reps have been available from Sansha 3/10 for a long time. Unfortunately, boosters are where its at.
The price is going to drop on these things quite nicely and devalue them significantly, but I highly doubt a 2 week old noob is going to be able to "farm" these things. This site shares a signature strength with K162 wormholes, so even if you are specifically looking for it, it is still quite difficult to farm. |

Rob Crowley
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:20:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:A-type small reps have been available from Sansha 3/10 for a long time. Unfortunately, boosters are where its at. OK, since I've only ever done serious exploration in Guristas/Angel territory I shouldn't make generalized statements about A-types and better limit the discussion to boosters.
What I'm worried about is that risk vs. reward of this new Guristas 3/10 is seriously out of line compared to the other Guristas sites. The old 4/10 is much harder to run, yet the best loot is worth significantly less. (A-type SSB vs. C-type MSB) The old way to get the same A-type SSBs is to chase escalation chains into lowsec, which is much more difficult than this new hisec plex. So I think a more balanced reward for the 3/10 would be a C-type SSB.
Quote:I highly doubt a 2 week old noob is going to be able to "farm" these things. This site shares a signature strength with K162 wormholes, so even if you are specifically looking for it, it is still quite difficult to farm. It's been a while since I had noob scanning skills/equipment, but I don't recall K162s to be particularly hard to scan. But anyway, my point is the imbalance with other sites of similar rewards which a noob wouldn't even remotely be able to run. So unless CCP wants to devalue the mods it's not a good idea to make them so easily available.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:53:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:
What I'm worried about is that risk vs. reward of this new Guristas 3/10 is seriously out of line compared to the other Guristas sites. The old 4/10 is much harder to run, yet the best loot is worth significantly less. (A-type SSB vs. C-type MSB) The old way to get the same A-type SSBs is to chase escalation chains into lowsec, which is much more difficult than this new hisec plex. So I think a more balanced reward for the 3/10 would be a C-type SSB.
C-type small is reserved for DED 1/10 and Hideouts.
Point being though, the price is going to drop significantly as people run this site. Thus the reward will drop for the now decreased risk. TBH the risk before was quite low (watch involved sniping a destroyer, vigil involved a station shoot that had a super low chance of dropping anything).
Players set the price though. It comes down to us. We determine what is valuable and what is not based on our demands. With that said, as supply increases steadily (and now this highly demanded item is very easy to get), prices will fall and thus the risk/reward ratio will be stabilized.
Think about this. The Pithum C-type booster is worth what? 400 mil? Imagine if that only dropped in low sec from the final escalation of Provisional Outpost. It would probably be worth more than the Pithum A-type Booster (which sits around 1 billion) simply because of the risk/demand factors. However, since it is also available in high/low sec DED 4/10, price is significantly lower than that hypothetical amount.
tl;dr prices will drop, mark my words
Quote:It's been a while since I had noob scanning skills/equipment, but I don't recall K162s to be particularly hard to scan. But anyway, my point is the imbalance with other sites of similar rewards which a noob wouldn't even remotely be able to run. So unless CCP wants to devalue the mods it's not a good idea to make them so easily available.
The point I was making is that as this site shares the signature strength of K162 and K162s are in ridiculous abundance in high sec due to WH dwellers with static high sec holes, it will be rather difficult to "filter" and farm this site (same applies to Lookout, but who wants to farm that).
Noobs may stumble upon this site and strike it rich. Thats great! Thats as it should be. But again, as I said, the price is going to drop significantly to reflect the new supply source. |

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.12.01 18:20:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:The old 4/10 is much harder to run, yet the best loot is worth significantly less. (A-type SSB vs. C-type MSB) The old way to get the same A-type SSBs is to chase escalation chains into lowsec, which is much more difficult than this new hisec plex. So I think a more balanced reward for the 3/10 would be a C-type SSB.
It's amazing to me how many people don't realize that there's a direct correlation between DED ratings and deadspace drops. Guristas 3/10 means Pithi A-type drops, period.
Emperor Salazar wrote:Noobs may stumble upon this site and strike it rich. Thats great! Thats as it should be. But again, as I said, the price is going to drop significantly to reflect the new supply source.
And this is all a good thing. Pithi boosters have been out of whack for ages; this will pull them (more) in line with other small A-type modules. And it's hard to begrudge the noob explorer who stumbles on one out of nowhere. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.01 18:33:00 -
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I was actually looking for your post there (and failing that, had considered typing it all up but ::effort::).
I agree with you that this is all for the best. 600+ million isk for going to low sec after a high sec escalation and sniping a destroyer was  |

1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:58:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Rob Crowley wrote:I ran this site twice so far, first time I got Pithi A-type SSB plus DG Rocket Launcher, second time only OPE.
I think this loot is seriously unbalanced regarding the difficulty of the site. Before this patch you had to go to lowsec to get A-type stuff and the sites there require a well-fitted/skilled ship, now a 2 week old noob in a T1 cruiser can farm A-types in hisec. I would be very surprised if this won't have a significant effect on the prices.
I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s. Players set the price unfortunately. A-type small reps have been available from Sansha 3/10 for a long time. Unfortunately, boosters are where its at. The price is going to drop on these things quite nicely and devalue them significantly, but I highly doubt a 2 week old noob is going to be able to "farm" these things. This site shares a signature strength with K162 wormholes, so even if you are specifically looking for it, it is still quite difficult to farm.
Actually it shares the same strength as 4/10's (Bug me thinks) and not K162's, so if you use DSP's your in luck 
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.01 23:53:00 -
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1-Up Mushroom wrote:Actually it shares the same strength as 4/10's (Bug me thinks) and not K162's, so if you use DSP's your in luck 
If its showing up as that now, then its new.
Last I checked (3 months ago probably), Lookout, 3/10 and K162 shared the same strength. |

Dark Drifter
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
9
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:02:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:I ran this site twice so far, first time I got Pithi A-type SSB plus DG Rocket Launcher, second time only OPE.
I think this loot is seriously unbalanced regarding the difficulty of the site. Before this patch you had to go to lowsec to get A-type stuff and the sites there require a well-fitted/skilled ship, now a 2 week old noob in a T1 cruiser can farm A-types in hisec. I would be very surprised if this won't have a significant effect on the prices.
I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s.
i guess you missed the memo that was written when CCP first introduced exploration..
1/10 - C-type small HS 2/10 - B-type small HS 3/10 - A-type small HS
4/10 - C-type med HS/LS 5/10 - B-type med LS 6/10 - A-type med LS
7/10 - C-type large LS/null 8/10 - B-type large null 9/10 - A-type large null 10/10 - A/X-type large null
escalation plexes loosely fall in to the same brackets
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Black Beth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:49:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote: I think this loot is seriously unbalanced regarding the difficulty of the site. Before this patch you had to go to lowsec to get A-type stuff .
I'm sorry dude, but that's utter garbage. You've always been able to pick up 'i' A-Type small deadspace mods from 3/10s. That's what they drop :) Narcotics Warehouses and Command Relay Outposts have always dropped small A-Types.
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Black Beth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:51:00 -
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joomla alacard wrote:i was able to take a battlecruiser in
That needs sorting out fo sho.
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5nipe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:21:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:I agree with you that this is all for the best. 600+ million isk for going to low sec after a high sec escalation and sniping a destroyer was 
Well, I remeber the time when A-type small SB was about 400 mils. Slowly, prices went up. Why? Guristas Watch excalation is quiet time consuming, and the chances you get thru to the last step in low sec is about 1/5. Drop rate of SB in is about 15% percent, so it is quiet rare occasion when you get it. Not to say low sec vouage is not something many hi sec explorers willing to do, especially thru possible low-sec entrance camps. If 3/10 drops price for A-Type to about 100 mils a peace, would I be even bothered with Guristas Watch. Sure thing I will not.
Therefore, if last step of Watch drops rare implantants, it makes sense again to go thru Watch escalation. But in this scenario CCP should adjust drop tables for other factions Watches/Vigils too.
It is all just about ISK/effort/risk ratio.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
220
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:45:00 -
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5nipe wrote: If 3/10 drops price for A-Type to about 100 mils a peace, would I be even bothered with Guristas Watch. Sure thing I will not.
Then you're a silly.
100 mil to go to low sec and pop a destroyer, bookmark can, and warp back after despawn? Thats free money. Vigil is the one that's not worth doing (or at least, one must be very careful).
What do the A-type small reps go for and do people go out to low sec for a chance at them? |

5nipe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:15:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:5nipe wrote: If 3/10 drops price for A-Type to about 100 mils a peace, would I be even bothered with Guristas Watch. Sure thing I will not.
Then you're a silly. 100 mil to go to low sec and pop a destroyer, bookmark can, and warp back after despawn? Thats free money. Vigil is the one that's not worth doing (or at least, one must be very careful). What do the A-type small reps go for and do people go out to low sec for a chance at them?
just calculate the time for expedition (and based on my experience 4 out of 5 drops along the line), get appropriate ship, got to low sec, kill "the overseer", loot (if u a lucky enough to get anything, again 15% drop rate), get back.
Man, for this time, if you know what are you doing, you can make way more than 100M, even in hi sec.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
220
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:19:00 -
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5nipe wrote:
just calculate the time for expedition (and based on my experience 4 out of 5 drops along the line), get appropriate ship, got to low sec, kill "the overseer", loot (if u a lucky enough to get anything, again 15% drop rate), get back.
Man, for this time, if you know what are you doing, you can make way more than 100M, even in hi sec.
We're really getting into the "whats worth it for me, may not be worth it for you" area here but...
Tengu, Deep space probing along the way (I see escalations as simply giving you some direction for probing), and an easy escalation in low sec.
Its quite worth it IMO. Vigil not so much as you have to pound away at a station for quite some time.
Also, while I would go if it dropped down to 100 mil, I don't think it will. I think it will settle around the 200m-300m mark, but thats pure speculation. |

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.12.02 17:58:00 -
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5nipe wrote:Well, I remeber the time when A-type small SB was about 400 mils. Slowly, prices went up. Why?
Actually, the why is much more on the demand side, not the supply side. Pithi A-types are almost custom-made for the now-ubiquitous PvE Tengu. Hence, higher price. Now we're seeing a supply-side adjustment, though demand isn't going down. Prices will drop; everyone will be happy. |

Mavnas
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:29:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:I ran this site twice so far, first time I got Pithi A-type SSB plus DG Rocket Launcher, second time only OPE.
I think this loot is seriously unbalanced regarding the difficulty of the site. Before this patch you had to go to lowsec to get A-type stuff and the sites there require a well-fitted/skilled ship, now a 2 week old noob in a T1 cruiser can farm A-types in hisec. I would be very surprised if this won't have a significant effect on the prices.
I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s.
1/10s drop C-Type small stuff. 2/10s drop B-Type small stuff 3/10s drop A-Type small stuff 4/10s drop C-Type medium stuff and so on...
It was like this before patch. A 2 week old could always farm A-Type stuff in high sec. Though it would be a giant pain trying to do those places with noob skills. Once upon a time I cleared a 3/10 Serp site in a dessy before patch. Took an hour. As I was starting on the final structure, a dude strolled up in a Proteus, took it out in like 10 seconds, and took the loot. After that I never tried to do exploration sites with noob skills and noob ships. Too much risk that someone will just do that instead.
If this were a major problem, A-Type smalls would be cheap. |

Mavnas
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.12.02 23:14:00 -
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Laskeuma wrote:Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:Rob Crowley wrote:I understand that CCP wants their new sites to drop good stuff so we get all excited about them but I'd say the maximum a hisec 3/10 should be able to drop is small C-type stuff, that would be in line with the med C-types from the old 4/10s. The difference being one is small a-type and the other medium c-type. It's just because of half of EVE running shield and t3's why boosters are that pricey. Go do some 3/10's where armor stuff drops, you will find the value quite different. They will prolly also be coming down in price now (the small boosters), maybe even so much that droprates will be altered. We will see. this, when I was new to eve I used to do exploration around in sepr space, got onyl armor stuff and didint make any isk from it (since its all like 20mil max) then I came to my senses and jumped into angel / guritas space.
The AB from serp space 3/10 is 50m. I know... I got a few of them. But it's weird praying for an AB to drop as opposed to something cooler like a repper.
Quote:What I'm worried about is that risk vs. reward of this new Guristas 3/10 is seriously out of line compared to the other Guristas sites. The old 4/10 is much harder to run, yet the best loot is worth significantly less. (A-type SSB vs. C-type MSB) The old way to get the same A-type SSBs is to chase escalation chains into lowsec, which is much more difficult than this new hisec plex. So I think a more balanced reward for the 3/10 would be a C-type SSB.
No, what would be more balanced is for the A-type SSB to be much cheaper, as it will be after people farm the site. The Armor repper is like 20-30m tops. It won't fall that far because the demand is much higher, but still, small mods shouldn't be that ridiculously expensive.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:29:00 -
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Found the site. Updated OP with info. |

Mnemosyne Gloob
Teshnology Inc. Stealth Wear Inc.
6
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Posted - 2011.12.04 17:40:00 -
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lol so is this putting it in the wrong band only for the guristas one? If so i cry CONSPIRACY! not the first time this particulary faction was treated 'better' than the others ^^ |

Melina Lin
Universal Frog
9
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Posted - 2011.12.04 18:20:00 -
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Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:If so i cry CONSPIRACY!
Pah, clearly CCP is trying to balance A-Type loot among the factions. They are a just bit clumsy is all. 
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St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
161
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Posted - 2011.12.04 21:31:00 -
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I love how the Gurista 3/10 conveniently shares the same strength as the 4/10, whilst all the other 3/10s have to put up with a billion K162s and those ghastly Rogue Drone Asteroid Infestations.
Also, I've done the wiki page for the Guri 3/10, and bug reported the DG Irregular's name being glitched. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.04 23:52:00 -
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St Mio wrote:I love how the Gurista 3/10 conveniently shares the same strength as the 4/10, whilst all the other 3/10s have to put up with a billion K162s and those ghastly Rogue Drone Asteroid Infestations.
Also, I've done the wiki page for the Guri 3/10, and bug reported the DG Irregular's name being glitched.
You bug reported the signature band as well, I trust. |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
161
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Posted - 2011.12.05 05:25:00 -
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B-but I'm still farming Lonetrek!
But yeah, I did report that. Was also considering telling them that Rogue Drone 3/10 spawns in lowsec, but I'd probably just get a "Working as intended" for that |

Bibosikus
Elite United Hard Moose Moose Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.12.05 14:49:00 -
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Went exploring in Sansha space the other night, hit 2 3/10's and 2 4/10's, got 3 escalations (one went to the end) and made half a bill.
Exploration working as intended, thanks CCP:) The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
235
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Posted - 2011.12.05 15:21:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Went exploring in Sansha space the other night, hit 2 3/10's and 2 4/10's, got 3 escalations (one went to the end) and made half a bill.
Exploration working as intended, thanks CCP:)
DED's don't escalate. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't mean the escalations were from the 3/10s or 4/10s, just to be clear for those that may be confused, DED's do not escalate. |

Scortched Merc
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:45:00 -
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Found a few 3/10s this weekend... nothing dropped... I sad  E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your tears fuel my internet spaceship. |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
163
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Posted - 2011.12.06 12:44:00 -
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Patchnotes say they fixed the DG Irregular's name, quick, someone go find out if they fixed the signature band/strength as well!
Quote:NPCs- Dread Guristas Irregular are now named correctly in the overview.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
237
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Posted - 2011.12.06 16:01:00 -
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I'm back in null sec for now. 50 mil to the person to get me a screenshot of the fixed overseer. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
237
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:19:00 -
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Btw, price for the a-type booster is down to 430 mil range right now
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Melina Lin
Universal Frog
9
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:27:00 -
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Confirming that at the time of this post sig strength is still identical to 4/10. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:29:00 -
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Melina Lin wrote:Confirming that at the time of this post sig strength is still identical to 4/10.
Thank you. |

Melina Lin
Universal Frog
9
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:51:00 -
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Who in here wanted a screenshot of a rat? |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
237
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:53:00 -
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Isk Transferred.
Good stuff. |

Far'Ronin
Wolves Of Legend Reborn Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.12.06 19:07:00 -
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9GyRS.jpg[/IMG] Its the story of my life, a day late and a dollar short. Lol. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
237
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Posted - 2011.12.06 19:21:00 -
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Sorry |

Bibosikus
Elite United Hard Moose Moose Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.12.09 02:56:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Bibosikus wrote:Went exploring in Sansha space the other night, hit 2 3/10's and 2 4/10's, got 3 escalations (one went to the end) and made half a bill.
Exploration working as intended, thanks CCP:) DED's don't escalate. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't mean the escalations were from the 3/10s or 4/10s, just to be clear for those that may be confused, DED's do not escalate.
Yes, sorry, the escalations were not from DED's ofc - I also hit a few Watches & Vigils which generated those.
Earlier today I hit an Angel 3/10 and pulled 3 A-type small mods out for 550mill. The wreck even dropped an intact armor plate. I ran the site (just a frigfest) in less than 10 mins (you have to kill all rats to unlock gates) in a Legion using crystals. This sort of site is stupidly easy for skilled players.
I just use DSP's and scan for (with my setup) 0.12 and 0.06 signal strengths. This picks up all 3/10's, 4/10's, Vigils and Watches, as well as Mul-Zatah etc. I find *very* few wh (I think I only pick up X702's) but a fair few gravs. About 25% of the time I get a plex hit.
At one point yesterday I had 7 escalations, mostly from Angel Vigils which only take 2/3 minutes to trigger & complete. I had to let some of them expire, it just wasnt worth running about that much.
So, from my point of view Exploration certainly ain't broken :)
The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
164
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Posted - 2011.12.09 05:30:00 -
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Running locator agent to find where Bibosikus lives so I can also scan for 3/10s without drowning in K162s |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
239
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Posted - 2011.12.09 13:59:00 -
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What's the price of the Pithi A-type small booster down to? |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
164
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:40:00 -
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Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster 350m sell 303m buy Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster 365m sell 342m buy (Jita contracts only) |

Mila Rasnik
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:44:00 -
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Just ran the Blood Raiders Information Collection Point DED 3/10 complex, equivalent to the guristas one named in OP.
No faction loot, not even a worthless laser crystal.
Highly annoyed.
Also annoyed I'm getting no salvage from these faction wrecks. Not once in over a week. Is this new? |

Sir Livingston
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:53:00 -
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Mila Rasnik wrote:Just ran the Blood Raiders Information Collection Point DED 3/10 complex, equivalent to the guristas one named in OP.
No faction loot, not even a worthless laser crystal.
Highly annoyed.
Also annoyed I'm getting no salvage from these faction wrecks. Not once in over a week. Is this new?
It's just your luck. Just a couple days ago the wreck drop an enhanced ward console for me in high sec. But...that's the only 1 in an entire week, so...yeah... ^_^
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Mila Rasnik
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.09 17:10:00 -
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Sir Livingston wrote:
It's just your luck. Just a couple days ago the wreck drop an enhanced ward console for me in high sec. But...that's the only 1 in an entire week, so...yeah... ^_^
That's fair enough I guess. Still, lack of faction loot in 2 instances of this plex in a row? I could make more killing high sec belt rats.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
240
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Posted - 2011.12.09 19:00:00 -
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St Mio wrote:Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster 350m sell 303m buy Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster 365m sell 342m buy (Jita contracts only)
Thanks.
Thats fantastic news. Push it down to 200 by Monday guys. Get to farming. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
240
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Posted - 2011.12.09 19:01:00 -
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Mila Rasnik wrote:
That's fair enough I guess. Still, lack of faction loot in 2 instances of this plex in a row? I could make more killing high sec belt rats.
20 in a row wouldn't be significant. 2 in a row? Should just be happy you found 2 of them.
And its quite well known that exploration is not about steady isk/hr. Its about crap, crap, crap, crap (repeat for what seems like forever).....Jackpot! |

Maggeridon Thoraz
Selectus Pravus Lupus Transmission Lost
5
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Posted - 2011.12.10 23:23:00 -
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had today in one guristas gorillas a jackpot: worm bpc, dread guristas invul, dread guristas magnetic scatt ampl. |

Tauranon
Weeesearch
10
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Posted - 2011.12.11 04:30:00 -
[65] - Quote
Mila Rasnik wrote:Just ran the Blood Raiders Information Collection Point DED 3/10 complex, equivalent to the guristas one named in OP.
No faction loot, not even a worthless laser crystal.
EDIT: Make that 2 in a row
Highly annoyed.
Also annoyed I'm getting no salvage from these faction wrecks. Not once in over a week. Is this new?
I did about 10 3s and 4s + some unrated in gurista space and got no loot at all. I think I'm at about 15 total now without loot in a row.
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Trush
Xorpor Industries
1
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Posted - 2011.12.12 04:26:00 -
[66] - Quote
Balance in the eyes of CCP must be picking one or two 2mil resistance plating modules off of a c-type corelum battleship 95% of the time.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
4
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Posted - 2011.12.12 08:45:00 -
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Shouldn't complain about drop rates.
Demand is going to stay same unless faction items get real cheap.
If supply goes up, value goes down. You're going to end up making same isk/hr anyway.. and if the market becomes saturated, you'll probably make less per hr than you would now with a jackpot score. |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
176
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Posted - 2011.12.12 09:16:00 -
[68] - Quote
I'm okay with the current drop rates as long as I'm the one getting the drops and everyone else are the ones getting empty cans :D |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
252
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:40:00 -
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Trush wrote:Balance in the eyes of CCP must be picking one or two 2mil resistance plating modules off of a c-type corelum battleship 95% of the time.
all space should be equal amirite?
The problem with armor drops is that the items are mostly the same across Serps/Bloods/Sansha, which means you have 3x the supply of angel/gurista mods. More supply = durp prices.
Want better loot? Go to caldari/minmatar space. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
252
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:41:00 -
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Umega wrote:Shouldn't complain about drop rates.
Demand is going to stay same unless faction items get real cheap.
If supply goes up, value goes down. You're going to end up making same isk/hr anyway.. and if the market becomes saturated, you'll probably make less per hr than you would now with a jackpot score.
There is no per hour application to making isk when referring to exploration. |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
252
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:41:00 -
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Someone please update me on the price for the pithi a-type booster?
Thanks. |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
177
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Posted - 2011.12.12 16:02:00 -
[72] - Quote
320m sell / 301m buy |

Mnemosyne Gloob
Teshnology Inc. Stealth Wear Inc.
8
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Posted - 2011.12.12 16:04:00 -
[73] - Quote
Cheapest seems to be around 320 WTS and around 300 WTB atm.
[edit]YOU[/edit] |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
252
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Posted - 2011.12.12 17:21:00 -
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lol |

Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
252
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Posted - 2011.12.12 17:24:00 -
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I don't have EFT access right now but I am curious to see tank difference between a dual pithi a-type tengu fit and a single pithum a-type tengu fit. |

Scortched Merc
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2011.12.12 20:36:00 -
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Armor Worm... me like! E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your tears fuel my internet spaceship. |
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