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Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:50:43 -
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My sytuation... Docking at Jita 4-4 Caldari at Shuttle 0 km ... and after 1 seconds later i'm at pod and got kill rights... How someone can targetting me, locked and destroyed at one second. Someone can explain me this? |
Mining Man Manny
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:52:56 -
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I believe the correct term is "blapped." |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5494
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:53:39 -
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Ping issues.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
18565
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:54:58 -
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How did you dock to 0? By warping to the station on your Overview?
(because that's not warping to 0)
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:55:46 -
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i done 0 km spot... so after warp i'm at 0 km... |
Aiyshimin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
224
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:57:39 -
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Indycator wrote:My sytuation... Docking at Jita 4-4 Caldari at Shuttle 0 km ... and after 1 seconds later i'm at pod and got kill rights... How someone can targetting me, locked and destroyed at one second. Someone can explain me this?
Sensor boosted ship with high alpha weapons (artillery) can one-shot low EHP ships like shuttles easily, with locking times as low as one second, with pre-loaded guns the damage is inflicted immediately after acquiring target lock.
If you were not a suspect or war target, it was most likely a cheap insta-Trasher. |
Aiyshimin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
224
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:59:00 -
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Ahahaha edit, why did you have 11 PLEXes in your shuttle :DDDD
And yes, it was a Trasher.
Darwin wins. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5494
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:59:01 -
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Indycator wrote:i done 0 km spot... so after warp i'm at 0 km...
Right. Ping issues. The dock is not immediate as you still have to give the dock command after leaving warp. Thus, with unfortunate server ticks and delay from ping, a attentive ganker with one tick lock got you targeted and blapped before the server finally got your dock command, only to realise, the ship it was supposed to be docking is currently generating a wreck.
Someone knew you were coming and worth the shot. Check your friends.
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New Mining Mechanics
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Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic
Did he say Jump
177
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:59:14 -
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You need to understand that the only way to guarantee you will be inside the 0KM 'bubble' of a station is to make a bookmark at 0KM and in future warp to that bookmark instead of warping to the station via overview.
When you warp directly to a station sometimes you will be dropped 1-2K off the station and the time it takes you to coast that 1-2K is enough time for any sensor boosted ship to lock and fire 1-2 volleys.
If you already have such a bookmark you should be clicking the dock button on selected item window before you even exit warp. Aside from this connectivity issues can cause such problems too.
Smart bombs are also a thing. But that's a story for another time.
Gÿå The Explorer I
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Aiyshimin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
224
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:00:47 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Indycator wrote:i done 0 km spot... so after warp i'm at 0 km... Right. Ping issues. The dock is not immediate as you still have to give the dock command after leaving warp. Thus, with unfortunate server ticks and delay from ping, a attentive ganker with one tick lock got you targeted and blapped before the server finally got your dock command, only to realise, the ship it was supposed to be docking is currently generating a wreck. Someone knew you were coming and worth the shot. Check your friends.
Ping pong, nope
You don't always land in docking range of stations from certain directions without an instadock bookmark, and can spend several seconds slowboating to docking range. See above.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
18566
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:01:01 -
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I think she is saying she made a bookmark at 0, so Abrazzar is right..
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
13535
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:02:18 -
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It's possible because of what you had in your cargo. If there's will there's a way. Don't give them the will in something as simple as a shuttle.
/c
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Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:06:04 -
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yes, yes so if that is possible that is ok, yes i was at shuttle, yes that isin't smart - so any idea in future? ORCA and corporate array or something bigger will be enough? dominix for example? |
Mag's
the united
18310
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:10:28 -
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Indycator wrote:yes, yes so if that is possible that is ok, yes i was at shuttle, yes that isin't smart - so any idea in future? ORCA and corporate array or something bigger will be enough? dominix for example?
Not moving them would be smart.
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
64
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:12:00 -
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Ouch. That hurts. 
Quote:so any idea in future?
Don't fly around with PLEX in your cargo. NEVER.
Doesn't matter, what you fly. Orca, Dominix, etc... With 11 PLEX in cargo, it will get ganked. |
Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:16:00 -
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yes but profit between Amarr and Jita was so sweet ;) hmmm must be idea how travel with them safety .... |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5494
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:18:03 -
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Indycator wrote:yes, yes so if that is possible that is ok, yes i was at shuttle, yes that isin't smart - so any idea in future? ORCA and corporate array or something bigger will be enough? dominix for example?
CovOps and always cloak. Don't tell anyone where you're going, what you're carrying and what you're flying until you are at your destination. Also fit a buffer on the CovOps so you can take a volley from a Trasher.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic
Did he say Jump
178
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:19:39 -
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Indycator wrote:yes but profit between Amarr and Jita was so sweet ;) hmmm must be idea how travel with them safety ....
How do you have enough ISK to play PLEX games and yet lack the knowledge of how to move them safely?
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mr ed thehouseofed
Wrought iron Industries
29201
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:24:08 -
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loot fairy says yes
i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
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Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:27:52 -
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i will back after 2 years... and forgotten many things. Other side many mechanics was changed at games. |
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
64
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:29:13 -
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Quote:hmmm must be idea how travel with them safety
If you really want to do that again. Get something very fast with a covert ops cloak and put on as much buffer tank as you can. And make an insta-dock bookmark at the other side of the station dock, where the least ships hang around.
EDIT:
Or even better, call me next time. I'll escort you...  |
Pandorium9
Pandorium Prime
The CodeX Alliance
46
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:31:02 -
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Blockade runners are now immune to all cargo scanners... just sayin. |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
198
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:33:15 -
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Ares, local hull inertias, one nozzle joint rig.
With proper skills you drop to 1.6sec align time.
That means no one will be able to scan your ship fast enough.
When you undock your ares the first time you do not engage warp,
but first hit the brakes to get your speed down to at least 25% of max.
THEN you initiate warp to the first gate on your way.
Then you don't dock at the main station but pick a different one ...
... and use one or more courier contracts.
Considering the fact that losing 11 PLEX will always be more expensive
than the low fees for couriers, it's a win. Don't **** up collateral.
Or use the autopilot to dock for you, which removes userlag out of the equation.
According to Tippia this works. You set the AP to the station,
manually initiate warp in Jita and then activate the AP.
Not that it matters anymore. You deserved the loss. |
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
229
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:33:44 -
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How many watch list entries has this thread generated, I wonder? |
Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:34:04 -
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blocade runners.... sound good i must checking it... |
Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:37:20 -
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Yes, i never traveling with so many plexes before. But You knows how it looks like before Christmas... Wife said "come and help me cleaning a house" just moment honey i only done one more travel in EvE :P
So of course that is my foult but thinking only how doing it at future only |
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
64
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:37:47 -
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Quote:How many watch list entries has this thread generated, I wonder?
Quote:blocade runners.... sound good i must checking it...
Can't wait for the killmail... |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
198
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:40:00 -
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Indycator wrote:Yes, i never traveling with so many plexes before. But You knows how it looks like before Christmas... Wife said "come and help me cleaning a house" just moment honey i only done one more travel in EvE :P
So of course that is my foult but thinking only how doing it at future only
This proves that you learned NOTHING and will do the same mistake again.
The reason, why you got killed, was greed. Nothing else. |
Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:40:20 -
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damn... :) i will sit at holy named JITA and insta earning money at that place.... thanks God my wallet isn't empy Yet.... |
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
230
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:40:21 -
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If you are >dead< set on trying it again, use Astero. Can fit for 1.9s align, can covert cloak all while maintaining a buffer that puts it out of reach of Thrashers at least.
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Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:44:13 -
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Nam, thanks for suggestion You can paste me some proper fit for this ship? |
Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic
Did he say Jump
179
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:45:41 -
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Indycator wrote:i will back after 2 years... and forgotten many things. Other side many mechanics was changed at games.
I would suggest getting used to the newer stuff before trying such high risk activity in future. <3
A shuttle is never the best idea.
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Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
64
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:55:10 -
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Quote:You can paste me some proper fit for this ship?
Astero (Just a possible fit and i'm not sure if you can fit this, with your skills)
- 1,8 Align time
- 10.000 EHP Omni Tank
- Covert Ops Cloak
Make sure to have set all the bookmarks you need in advance, because you don't have a MWD or Nanos / Inertia Stabs. |
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
230
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:04:06 -
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Indycator wrote:Nam, thanks for suggestion You can paste me some proper fit for this ship?
I could, but I gave you the stats you'll need already. So, build your own. Plenty of tools available to help with that:
Eve Fitting Tool
Pyfa
Osmium |
Aivo Dresden
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
406
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:28:12 -
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And all 11 PLEX dropped, how generous. :D |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3012
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:31:56 -
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Lucrii Dei wrote:You need to understand that the only way to guarantee you will be inside the 0KM 'bubble' of a station is to make a bookmark at 0KM and in future warp to that bookmark instead of warping to the station via overview.
When you warp directly to a station sometimes you will be dropped 1-2K off the station and the time it takes you to coast that 1-2K is enough time for any sensor boosted ship to lock and fire 1-2 volleys.
This is actually a bit of a bug. CCP intended the dock command issued from the overview would warp you to the station, and dock you safely, without the need for an insta-dock BM. The purpose was to reduce server load with people making tons of bookmarks, then copying and sharing them.
But it does not always work. When it does not and you lose your ship, petition it under "ship loss". Sometimes CCP does give you back your (destroyed) stuff. At least they did for me. The dropped stuff: Its gone.
Another trick: make a dogleg bookmark, off to the side of the station. Warp to the dogleg BM, then to your station insta-dock BM. That way when you fly in to dock, you are coming from an unexpected direction and the gankers, with their short range weapons, will be out of position to get you.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
306
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:05:52 -
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Indycator wrote:yes but profit between Amarr and Jita was so sweet ;) hmmm must be idea how travel with them safety ....
Do a station trade with me. I'd be glad to move them... (Into my hanger)...
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Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
572
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:07:22 -
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Jenny...Jenny Spitfire...is that you???
Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.
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Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:11:10 -
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Previous was at Jankeah - so that isin't me mate |
Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:12:28 -
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anyway if someone can borrow me some isks i will multiple it without leaving a station. Borrow for two week - some 10-15% profit :) anyone interested? |
Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:13:53 -
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online right now so ready for proposition... |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
200
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:18:19 -
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Indycator wrote:online right now so ready for proposition...
Stop being a greedy ass. |
Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:20:57 -
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EvE is for many kind of players. First likes EvE for PvP , second mate for community. I liked EvE for market speculation, for this i can flying machariel and don't doing boring missions thousand times... Greedy? maybe but if i can - why not? |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
200
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:23:52 -
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Indycator wrote:EvE is for many kind of players. First likes EvE for PvP , second mate for community. I liked EvE for market speculation, for this i can flying machariel and don't doing boring missions thousand times... Greedy? maybe but if i can - why not? If you have to ask such a question, I rather not continue talking to you.
Please keep doing what you're doing and remember to post all the future lossmails. |
Indycator
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:24:54 -
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Roger that :) have a nice day :) |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Cynosural Field Theory.
1443
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:44:30 -
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Redeem-Redeemer-Redemption?
TunDraGon is recruiting!
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CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Bolimbe
Shiga's Playground
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
2
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Posted - 2014.12.13 19:04:37 -
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Indycator wrote:anyway if someone can borrow me some isks i will multiple it without leaving a station. Borrow for two week - some 10-15% profit :) anyone interested?
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, likes a beggar in Eve. If you want to salvage what is left of your reputation then stop.
I offer you my condolences on your loss although something about transporting 11 plex to JIta and then begging for money smells awfully fishy to me...Nevermind, that is just the leftover salmon from dinner last week. |
Kalpel
KBM
74
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Posted - 2014.12.13 19:46:16 -
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Indycator wrote:yes, yes so if that is possible that is ok, yes i was at shuttle, yes that isin't smart - so any idea in future? ORCA and corporate array or something bigger will be enough? dominix for example?
Covert Ops + Cloak
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Jur Tissant
The TERRA
Guardians of Serenity
346
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Posted - 2014.12.14 00:20:33 -
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Based on your killmail, it was a lock-fitted Thrasher with a side of Murphy's law. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
5003
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:45:08 -
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Indycator wrote:yes, yes so if that is possible that is ok, yes i was at shuttle, yes that isin't smart - so any idea in future? ORCA and corporate array or something bigger will be enough? dominix for example?
WHAHAHAHAHAH
11 PLEX.
*tries to keep breathing, and puts poker face on*
You do know you SHOULD NEVER undock with a PLEX nor there is ever a reason to do it.
First fly to destination, then redeem PLEX.
NOT the other way around.
p.s. At least you will score quite high on the "stupid losses of the year award" list I guess with this. Or at least it will be ALOD.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
5003
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:48:24 -
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Lucrii Dei wrote:Indycator wrote:yes but profit between Amarr and Jita was so sweet ;) hmmm must be idea how travel with them safety .... How do you have enough ISK to play PLEX games and yet lack the knowledge of how to move them safely?
L, last time I checked a CreditCard is not linked to amount of braincells used.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
5003
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:52:55 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:Based on your killmail, it was a lock-fitted Thrasher with a side of Murphy's law.
Naah.
If it was up to Murphy, they wouldnt have dropped.
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
548
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Posted - 2014.12.14 02:13:01 -
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shuttle poops out eleventy gorillion ISKies. Congrats OP you just made someone play EVE for free for eleven more months.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
5005
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Posted - 2014.12.14 02:17:21 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:shuttle poops out eleventy gorillion ISKies. Congrats OP you just made someone play EVE for free for eleven more months.
I think OP is a Yule Lad in disguise and that X-Mas came early.
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
14
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Posted - 2014.12.14 04:06:02 -
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If you want to use a shuttle, try the leopard. 20AU/s. Just bought it. I love it. |
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
105
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Posted - 2014.12.14 05:08:28 -
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Someone lend the OP some ISK, so we can see if it's a scam.
J'Poll wrote:Indycator wrote:yes, yes so if that is possible that is ok, yes i was at shuttle, yes that isin't smart - so any idea in future? ORCA and corporate array or something bigger will be enough? dominix for example? WHAHAHAHAHAH 11 PLEX. *tries to keep breathing, and puts poker face on* You do know you SHOULD NEVER undock with a PLEX nor there is ever a reason to do it. First fly to destination, then redeem PLEX. NOT the other way around.
I think he's buying PLEX in one market and moving it to the other. In which case redeeming does not work.
Regional PLEX trading is also very lucrative, it just has to be moved correctly.
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
319
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Posted - 2014.12.14 05:17:38 -
[57] - Quote
I regularly transport 10-20B between Jita and Amarr. Never got ganked. Even when I did it during Burn Jita and taunted the Goons on local:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NKKx-5Ij-t4/UM7jSTVHWdI/AAAAAAAAD54/wTYkDOsQlJY/s800/tengu.gif
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
14210
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Posted - 2014.12.14 05:32:28 -
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That's a disgusting number.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
426
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Posted - 2014.12.14 10:17:56 -
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Lucrii Dei wrote:Indycator wrote:yes but profit between Amarr and Jita was so sweet ;) hmmm must be idea how travel with them safety .... How do you have enough ISK to play PLEX games and yet lack the knowledge of how to move them safely? Or, rather, why are you playing PLEX games when you lack the knowledge to move them safely?
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Serene Repose
1749
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Posted - 2014.12.14 10:20:26 -
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So you cloaked, then taunted in local...and we cheer when? 
Treason never prospers. What is the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Alicia Aishai
Orange Crescent
10
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Posted - 2014.12.15 12:08:01 -
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Same happened to me before. Those days there is a lot of lag to dock in Jita 4-4. Most stations you can dock instantly but because of Jita lag (tm) if can take multiple seconds to dock after warping. I even got delay up to 30 seconds once.
There is really nothing one can do until CCP fixes the lag issues except using ships which cannot be alpha'ed. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
14230
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Posted - 2014.12.15 12:17:15 -
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Alicia Aishai wrote:Same happened to me before. Those days there is a lot of lag to dock in Jita 4-4. Most stations you can dock instantly but because of Jita lag (tm) if can take multiple seconds to dock after warping. I even got delay up to 30 seconds once.
There is really nothing one can do until CCP fixes the lag issues except using ships which cannot be alpha'ed.
Thats not lag, you landed outside the docking range bubble of the station.
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