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Rixiu North Star Networks The Kadeshi 29	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:57:00 - [31] - Quote Personally I prefer a font that can actually be read rather than... whatever the old font was. I think it's great and are people seriously complaining about the FONT in a GAME about INTERNET SPACESHIPS? Really?
David Rivard Republic University Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:09:00 - [32] - Quote Tippia wrote: Jacob cirth wrote: Nope. So there is no issue at all then, if it's not one of the first two. After all, there is no error and nothing to correct as far as anyone has been able to show. Pretty certain he's referring to the fact that the new font is god awful. Log in and see for yourself.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1728	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:13:00 - [33] - Quote David Rivard wrote: Pretty certain he's referring to the fact that the new font is god awful. Log in and see for yourself. I saw the fontGÇª what? Four, five weeks ago? I've also already logged in and seen it. It's still the same: a vast improvement over the horrid mess of the old font design. They fixed pretty much all the errors of the old font, especially when it comes to being able to quickly distinguish similarly-shaped glyphs, so if that's what he's referring to, then they have done the exact opposite: they've removed a very old and very nasty error, not made one. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Deviana Sevidon Jades Falcon Guards 112	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:23:00 - [34] - Quote Since the new font is scaleable and allows further improvements on the UI, there is really no point in keeping the old font and maintaining the legacy font in future UI updates would be a programmers nightmare.
rufeno Imajica Investments Blue Sky Consortium 28	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:32:00 - [35] - Quote anyway, as they said in one of the another 183247125 thread about the font, it would be too much work to make the font selectable.
ucntkilme DPS Delivery Truck Jokers Wild. 3	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:34:00 - [36] - Quote option #1: scale your UI down to 90% and reduce font size further if you need to. option #2: get a real computer capable of handling the eve font option #3: leave eve, quit complaining and let the nuts drop.
Transporter Ted Midas Tycho 0	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:35:00 - [37] - Quote The new font is awesome, I do believe people may be loading EVE and leaving it as it is and complaining. Play around with the settings, it is pretty awesome, really awesome, more awesome than cheese on toast... woah hold that thought, nothing is that awesome... maybe!
Galdornae KA POW POW Inc 0	Posted - 2011.11.30 00:59:00 - [38] - Quote Basically I now have the choice between windows that take up way too much space (wallet, scanner, overview, fleet window, etc, if I want to actually be able to see any significant amount of the information there) or I can scale it down to 90% at which point it becomes largely unreadable. Maybe on a larger screen it would work, but on my 1600 x 900 screens 90% simply isn't an option. This is a significant decrease in usability.
Rhaegor Stormborn BURN EDEN Northern Coalition. 166	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:12:00 - [39] - Quote GavinCapacitor wrote: Trolling / 0/10 / test server for months / HTFU / can I have your stuff Pick 1+ Thread is bad OP should feel bad. Read this thread, 18 pages, complaining about new font with CCP's dev trying to tell everyone how "awesome" the new font is. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12460&find=unread The new font is terrible. CCP Punkturis is the worst Dev.-á Fix the font or you will be the 21st percent.
Kyo Haku Gradient Electus Matari 12	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:19:00 - [40] - Quote I'd love to be able to switch back to the old font.
Flinx Evenstar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 19	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:21:00 - [41] - Quote Haha you are complaining about the font in probably the best patch since RMR The FONT lol
Vera Godspiel The Perfect Harvesting Experience 4	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:27:00 - [42] - Quote It's almost laughable... "whine, whine, sob, sob, The new font is sooooo horrible". Come on. The new font is better and more readable. It isn't anything superbly innovating as helvetica or times once were, but it's an improvement without a doubt. You can set it up to your liking. You can distinguish between letters and numbers. It's easier on the eyes. Where's the problem? Thank you ccp for listening to your users and try to make the best out of it. NOW FIX THE ..... just kidding
Badezimmer Zerstorer TERRIBLE EMO ALTS REGIME 20	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:28:00 - [43] - Quote The patch is wonderful overall. The font change is a continuation of the trend of CCP not listening to their players.
Nephilius Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co. 59	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:39:00 - [44] - Quote Font looks good to me. If you bring down a giant, you're a hero. If you kill something weak-even if it has to die-then you will endure contempt.
Vera Godspiel The Perfect Harvesting Experience 4	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:39:00 - [45] - Quote Quote: The patch is wonderful overall. The font change is a continuation of the trend of CCP not listening to their players. The font change is a result of CCP listening to their players. They just didn't implement it in a way that you would have liked them to change it.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 295	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:42:00 - [46] - Quote Kyo Haku wrote: I'd love to be able to switch back to the old font. You're not Aladin so you have no wishes !! All Aladins were on SISI, they got almost everything except a real hybrids buff
Badezimmer Zerstorer TERRIBLE EMO ALTS REGIME 20	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:47:00 - [47] - Quote Vera Godspiel wrote: Quote: The patch is wonderful overall. The font change is a continuation of the trend of CCP not listening to their players. The font change is a result of CCP listening to their players. They just didn't implement it in a way that you would have liked them to change it. The font isn't a result of CCP listening to their players. It's a response to them listening to a subset of their players and making a drastic change. Even if I'm generous, which I will be since I don't feel like counting, and say that 80 percent of the people in this thread prefer the new font, that still leaves 1 out of every 5 that are unhappy. There is no reason that it isn't a selection option.
Darth Skorpius Legion of Darkwind Order of the Void 33	Posted - 2011.11.30 02:05:00 - [48] - Quote Badezimmer Zerstorer wrote: Vera Godspiel wrote: Quote: The patch is wonderful overall. The font change is a continuation of the trend of CCP not listening to their players. The font change is a result of CCP listening to their players. They just didn't implement it in a way that you would have liked them to change it. The font isn't a result of CCP listening to their players. It's a response to them listening to a subset of their players and making a drastic change. Even if I'm generous, which I will be since I don't feel like counting, and say that 80 percent of the people in this thread prefer the new font, that still leaves 1 out of every 5 that are unhappy. There is no reason that it isn't a selection option. oh boo hoo. you said yourself you didnt bring it up eariler, so its your own fault for assuming ccp would jsut give the option. next times you should actually bring up your issues, even if to you its common sence. otherwise stop complaining and go post in features and ideas. Follow my Adventures in New Eden! http://skorpiuschronicles.wordpress.com/ Baa Means Baa!
Rhaegor Stormborn BURN EDEN Northern Coalition. 166	Posted - 2011.11.30 02:10:00 - [49] - Quote I guess CCP should be happy they have at least some fan bois again that will defend even terrible developer decisions. The new font is terrible. CCP Punkturis is the worst Dev.-á Fix the font or you will be the 21st percent.
Vera Godspiel The Perfect Harvesting Experience 4	Posted - 2011.11.30 02:16:00 - [50] - Quote Badezimmer Zerstorer wrote: Vera Godspiel wrote: Quote: The patch is wonderful overall. The font change is a continuation of the trend of CCP not listening to their players. The font change is a result of CCP listening to their players. They just didn't implement it in a way that you would have liked them to change it. The font isn't a result of CCP listening to their players. It's a response to them listening to a subset of their players and making a drastic change. Even if I'm generous, which I will be since I don't feel like counting, and say that 80 percent of the people in this thread prefer the new font, that still leaves 1 out of every 5 that are unhappy. There is no reason that it isn't a selection option. That is absolutely true Badezimmer. But a selection option is very likely not a very simple thing to implement. This is an option that will please (and i'm using your numbers here) 80% of the players. That is a good thing and it does imply that ccp is listening. Maybe a future patch will bring a selection option when they see the amount of players that want that. Still, that will mean that some players will whine about the fact that they can't change the font in every bloody font installed on their system. There's simply no way to please everyone. So. If you are pleased with the rest of the patch, isn't this just a small inconvenience? EDIT: Oh.. and Rhaegor Stormborn... Just because i'm not sharing your opinion does not make me a fan boy. Learn to spell, think first next time and please; next time check the picture and refer to me as a girl. I do understand that you've never seen one before, but you must have heard of them.
Rhaegor Stormborn BURN EDEN Northern Coalition. 166	Posted - 2011.11.30 02:51:00 - [51] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12460 The new font is terrible. CCP Punkturis is the worst Dev.-á Fix the font or you will be the 21st percent.
Vera Godspiel The Perfect Harvesting Experience 4	Posted - 2011.11.30 03:07:00 - [52] - Quote Rhaegor Stormborn wrote: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12460 nice... and now what? Why don't you go sit in a corner and do your research like a grown up boy. How many people are playing eve, how many people are on that topic and how many of the players would simply like the font or any of the other changes in this patch and not be active on the forums? If you don't have anything more usefull to say, go play pong or something
Rhaegor Stormborn BURN EDEN Northern Coalition. 166	Posted - 2011.11.30 03:21:00 - [53] - Quote Vera Godspiel wrote: next time check the picture and refer to me as a girl. I do understand that you've never seen one before, but you must have heard of them. This explains a lot. The new font is terrible. CCP Punkturis is the worst Dev.-á Fix the font or you will be the 21st percent.
Vera Godspiel The Perfect Harvesting Experience 4	Posted - 2011.11.30 03:39:00 - [54] - Quote Rhaegor Stormborn wrote: Vera Godspiel wrote: next time check the picture and refer to me as a girl. I do understand that you've never seen one before, but you must have heard of them. This explains a lot. It does explain a lot.. It explains that some people assume before thinking. And that prejudice is still with us. Rhaegor, stop assuming, start thinking. You start to make me feel that I should assume you're a 14 year old whiny kid that doesn't know anything, yet finds himself incredibly wise and smart. Don't prove that assumption and come up with something more then just a sexistic remark about women.
Badezimmer Zerstorer TERRIBLE EMO ALTS REGIME 20	Posted - 2011.11.30 03:46:00 - [55] - Quote Vera Godspiel wrote: Badezimmer Zerstorer wrote: Vera Godspiel wrote: Quote: The patch is wonderful overall. The font change is a continuation of the trend of CCP not listening to their players. The font change is a result of CCP listening to their players. They just didn't implement it in a way that you would have liked them to change it. The font isn't a result of CCP listening to their players. It's a response to them listening to a subset of their players and making a drastic change. Even if I'm generous, which I will be since I don't feel like counting, and say that 80 percent of the people in this thread prefer the new font, that still leaves 1 out of every 5 that are unhappy. There is no reason that it isn't a selection option. That is absolutely true Badezimmer. But a selection option is very likely not a very simple thing to implement. This is an option that will please (and i'm using your numbers here) 80% of the players. That is a good thing and it does imply that ccp is listening. Maybe a future patch will bring a selection option when they see the amount of players that want that. Still, that will mean that some players will whine about the fact that they can't change the font in every bloody font installed on their system. There's simply no way to please everyone. So. If you are pleased with the rest of the patch, isn't this just a small inconvenience? EDIT: Oh.. and Rhaegor Stormborn... Just because i'm not sharing your opinion does not make me a fan boy. Learn to spell, think first next time and please; next time check the picture and refer to me as a girl. I do understand that you've never seen one before, but you must have heard of them. There is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be a simple thing to implement. Assuming it's written properly then within reasonable limits the text fields will automatically scale, position, and wrap any font or font size.
Rhaegor Stormborn BURN EDEN Northern Coalition. 166	Posted - 2011.11.30 03:48:00 - [56] - Quote Vera Godspiel wrote: Rhaegor Stormborn wrote: Vera Godspiel wrote: next time check the picture and refer to me as a girl. I do understand that you've never seen one before, but you must have heard of them. This explains a lot. It does explain a lot.. It explains that some people assume before thinking. And that prejudice is still with us. Rhaegor, stop assuming, start thinking. You start to make me feel that I should assume you're a 14 year old whiny kid that doesn't know anything, yet finds himself incredibly wise and smart. Don't prove that assumption and come up with something more then just a sexistic remark about women. 36 with a wife and 2 kids. I am not 14, but you are a woman. The new font is terrible. CCP Punkturis is the worst Dev.-á Fix the font or you will be the 21st percent.
Kyra Felann The Scope Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2011.11.30 03:54:00 - [57] - Quote Badezimmer Zerstorer wrote: I said from the get go that it's more readable. Doesn't mean it's better. Actually, it does. Text exists to be read. A font that makes that easier is better. What I'm reading is: "I acknowledge that it's better, but I'm not used to it, so I'm going to complain."
Psychophantic 152	Posted - 2011.11.30 04:03:00 - [58] - Quote Come on guys. Ship spinning wasn't vital to the game, you can still accomplish everything you used to be able to do using the CQ interfaces. Shouldn't you be out flying around in space instead? It would be too much work for CCP to implement an option to choose hangar or CQ. I just don't understand why so many people are crying over this change.
Arakoinae Veldor Rock Grinders The Silent One's 0	Posted - 2011.11.30 04:04:00 - [59] - Quote Can't stay the same for ever.I like the new changes just have to weed out the bugs that come with it.
Badezimmer Zerstorer TERRIBLE EMO ALTS REGIME 20	Posted - 2011.11.30 04:07:00 - [60] - Quote Kyra Felann wrote: Badezimmer Zerstorer wrote: I said from the get go that it's more readable. Doesn't mean it's better. Actually, it does. Text exists to be read. A font that makes that easier is better. What I'm reading is: "I acknowledge that it's better, but I'm not used to it, so I'm going to complain." I'm complaining because it's bigger and it's screwed up my overview and because it's goofy looking in a sci-fi themed game. But my biggest complaint is that this is a change that has upset a sizable number of players and we aren't being given a choice.

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