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Sobic
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:42:00 -
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The recons badly needed the cap changes, and some layout/bonus tweaks.
But the D-scan immune is completely OP, and honestly will just reduce engagements as lower grade WH's will be completely abandoned. I was like "Cool idea", but then my brain started to actually function. |
Sobic
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:43:17 -
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Ben Nickfen wrote:Morwen Lagann wrote:Pilgrim without its neut amount bonus? One word: Ugh.
If you absolutely must put a range bonus on it, make it a small one and keep the amount one. Don't neuter the thing it was good at. With this change it's just a weak Curse with a cloak. Which isn't all that big a ~thing~ with the whole "invisible to d-scan" bonus that you want to give to combat recons. With these changes there'd be even fewer reasons to fly a Pilgrim than there are right now. I have to agree with Morwen here I personal was thinking of getting a Pilgrim but now seeing there going to possibility of them losing the neut amount bonus i really can't see a reason to use it now 
As a blops dropper. The range is a huge help when you can stay out of web/scram range. |
Sobic
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:48:51 -
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Instead of arbitrary tweaks like making a certain ship type invisible to D-scan.
You guys should be spending your time making a more robust scanner.
Increase the overall range, but the results are mabe range based. So you don't get a ship type until they are very close. This can be related to sig ot ship class.
But the D-scan still has to be able to do its job. Combat recons will be everywhere, and they wont be making the game anymore interesting. Just more rage inducing. Especially for Solo pilots. Off grid recons will be the norm now. |
Sobic
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:17:35 -
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Tear Jar wrote:Stacy Lone wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Combat Recons will now be permanently undetectable by directional scanners Have you considered the implications this will have for wspace? I mean it might work for 0.0 where you can see that *something* is there through local, but in wspace, this will be absolutely OP and hilarious. No local, not even DScan anymore, how are you supposed to even get any intel? The only way to detect such a ship is by having either eyes on all wholes (requires multitude of characters) and thus seeing it enter or by constant combat probing, which can be seen by the enemy. I fear that this will make this ship far out of line in wspace, where intel is already harder to get than in 0.0. How is that any different than cov ops ships?
A covert ops has to re-cloak when jumping into a system. has to Re-cloak when entering a plex, or docking at a station,etc. That's a lot of chances to make a hit on D-scan. Or the covert to make a mistake(Like Dbl tapping his cloak)
It also causes a 6 sec delay to target when decloaking.(yes I know a combat recon warping in is effectively the same thing)
Now you have a perma off grid cloak with increased combat capability across the board.
Obviously you can drop combat probes to subvert this entire thing to some degree. But adding yet another chore for yet another alt just so you can have a chance to survive is poor eve design. We've been down this stupid street before CCP. (Cloaked ships decloaking cloaked ships anyone)
instead how bout improving D-scan.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=392816&find=unread |
Sobic
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:30:11 -
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X ATM092 wrote:Warp into a fw plex. There is a curse. Game was good.
lol so much this ^ |
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:43:39 -
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+1 To people asking for Huginn missile boat! |
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Posted - 2014.12.20 01:46:34 -
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Daneel Trevize wrote:Seriously Rise (where's Fozzie in all of this?), talk us through this gameplay from a skillful player's perspective:
You're solo in lowsec.
That's it, that's all there is to the scenario.
P.S. There could be a linked lachesis + huginn on every grid. That you can't dscan.
What do you do, anywhere? How do you solo in this world? When do you not die on landing on any & every grid, on jumping every gate, without any way to get ingame intel on what awaits? Only fly frigs that can warp in a couple of seconds tops?
Its questions like these that I don't see RISE actually answering. Because the answer won't support his idea.
You can expand it to gangs entering say... BRAVE space. Our gang of 20 is almost always outnumbered. So we have to use Dscan a lot to have a damn chance against the blob. So now I'll just pass on roaming period as they'll have an unknown number of combat recons ready to pounce at any given moment. You do realize that a SINGLE combat recon can turn a fight?!?!?
I foresee ENTIRE FLEETS of just combat recons. This isn't hard to foresee that you're making the game a frustrating mess just so you can have your latest gimmick passive that makes you feel like your actually earning your dev paycheck.
PS, I don't FW or WH or run anoms. People who keep accusing detractors as only being whiny carebears are short sited. |
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