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Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.09 07:47:00 -
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Ok, sure thats no problem, go there in your web-browser, log in, and there it is.
But stop, what i want do to is getting the page from within an self-made application that displays some information-data on the display of the Logitech G15 Keyboard.
First what I have atm:
Version: 0.93b
What you can do:
Enter multiple account data (and save it)
display Server-Status, Server-MOTD and playercount on the display
switch the account that is displayed, it is always only the character displayed, that is currently skill-training
Character-Name, current skill + lvl, current wallet is displayed.
Current Skill-training-time left is not displayed atm (working on it right now)
What you need:
Logitech G15 Keyboard
Installed Logitech G15 drivers
up-to-date java virtual machine (http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp, third download button)
Eve G15 Client (http://www.opus-allianz.de:8080/data/EveG15Client.rar)
Installation:
unpack it, start EveG15Client v0_93.jar with dubbleklick
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community |
Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.09 07:48:00 -
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Known Bugs and Issues:
Skill training time not displayed currect
Future-Feature List:
*enter fancy feature here*
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community |
Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.09 07:51:00 -
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Edited by: Everlyn on 09/09/2006 07:51:21
So, now to my problem.
I need the informations from
http://myeve.eve-online.com/skilltree.asp to get the current skilltraining time.
I login to login.asp and get the sessionId and cookie.
I send cookie and sessionId to skilltree.asp
What i get back in return is:
 Quote:
<head><title>Object moved</title></head><body><h1>Object Moved</h1>This object may be found <a HREF="https://myeve.eve-online.com/login.asp?r=%2F&t=%2FDefault%2Easp%3F">here</a>.</body>
I also get the tip to send something like "&Check=OK&r=&t=/ingameboard.asp&remember=1" with the request and it still don't works.
Anyone has an idea what i'm doing wrong?
Thx for every help.
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community |
Grez
Minmatar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.09.10 01:10:00 -
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404 on dl link.
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Corp: www.ravenwarriors.com
Cache Clearer |
Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.10 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Grez
404 on dl link.
Oh sry, should be fixed now.
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community |
Morphed Override
Brotherhood in Light
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Posted - 2006.09.19 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Morphed Override on 19/09/2006 11:38:54
tried to run... nothing nothing happening :/
running on Logitechs 1.02 Drivers
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Wysia
Minmatar
Neuronal Loneliness
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Posted - 2006.09.20 04:54:00 -
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I got a G15 too, and I will help you in tour testing as much as I can.
I've dream of a G15 add-on for Eve, so if you can make my dream comes true :)
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Wysia
Minmatar
Neuronal Loneliness
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Posted - 2006.09.20 11:06:00 -
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Ok, just installed it, and it works !
It display the message of the day, the status of TQ, and my character name, which skill i'm training (not the time remaining) and how much is in my wallet.
Keep up the good work !
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Morphed Override
Brotherhood in Light
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Posted - 2006.09.20 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Morphed Override on 20/09/2006 12:16:58
what version of the LCD Drivers are you running. :/
i downloaded and installed the latest Java.
Ran the file still no luck :'(
About to try reverting back to the old drivers.
EDIT: Yes it is the drivers. Is there any chance you could get it to support the latest drivers available from logitech's website?
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=322,CONTENTID=10824
and also consider looking at: http://www.g15forums.com/forum/
from what i have seen people are always willing to give help :) and it also a means to get your work to more people :)
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Wysia
Minmatar
Neuronal Loneliness
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Posted - 2006.09.20 13:05:00 -
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I use 1.02.218 driver.
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Robert Wells
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Posted - 2006.09.20 16:35:00 -
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Im installing atm, however you know how to make G15 mods i had an idea earlier, the 'Selected Target' info go into the Display, but do this for NBSI, show player name, ship piloted, corp/alliance and your standings toward them. Seems like a neat idea IMO, opinions?
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Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:05:00 -
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I will try around with the drivers a bit to get it running with the latest one.
G15 is no big problem at all, the only problem i have atm is accessing the skilltree.asp, and that's an eve-related problem and i have no clue how i could get it running and no comment from CCP yet :/
About the "Selected Target" info: it would be hard to get that information. You have to analyse a screenshot, read the text to get the pilot name, have a DB to get the Corp / Alli and have a DB with the standing. That's a lot of work and nearly impossible to keep up-to-date.
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community
Eve-Client for Logitech G15 Client?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=393059 |
Little Donny
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Posted - 2006.09.26 02:51:00 -
[13]
Working great for me, any chance you would be willing to post the source code? |
Stribbsa
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Posted - 2006.09.26 23:58:00 -
[14]
I found this while on the forums. Hope it helps.
Originally by: Tripoli
Edited by: Tripoli on 22/05/2006 05:07:53
Inevitably, players come to find themselves wondering how exactly their attributes affect their training times and how the various learning skills affect their attributes. Hopefully the experience I have with skills and attributes calculations will help me to better enlighten you as to how exactly the wonderful skill system in EVE really works.
Currently, EVE only displays whole numbers for your attributes on your skill sheet. Those numbers are rarely actually whole. The displayed number is truncated, not rounded. Even if you have an attribute that displays as ô20ö it could actually be 20.96, which can amount to a significant difference in training time.
So, first off you need to know what your attributes really are. All characters start with a total of 39 base attribute points spread between the five attributes. Your actual attributes are calculated using the formula:
( Base + Basic_Skill_Lv + Adv_Skill_Lv + Implant_Bonus ) * ( 1+ ( Learning_Lv * 0.02 ) )
Example:
Base intelligence 8 with Analytical Mind lv 5 and Logic 2 gives you 15.0 attribute points.
Add learning lv 4 to that and it's (8+5+2)*(1+(4*0.02)) = 16.2
Add an Basic implant and it's (8+5+2+3)*(1+(4*0.02)) = 19.44
(YouÆll note that the Learning skill's bonus is applied last, so it actually improves the effect of all the other learning skills and implants.)
If you do not know what your base attributes were you can use this formula to calculate your actual attributes based on the truncated numbers listed on your skill sheet:
ROUNDUP ( Truncated_Attrib / ( 1 + ( Learning_Lv * 0.02 ) ) ) * ( 1 + ( Learning_Lv * 0.02 ) )
Now, to calculate how long it will take you to train something, simply plug your actual attributes into the formula:
( SP_Needed - Current_SP ) / ( Pri_Attrib + ( Sec_Attrib / 2 ) )
This will yield the total number of minutes remaining. (Note that the secondary attribute has exactly half the effect of the primary attribute.)
Example:
Missile Launcher Operation training from 45,255 to 256,000 SP (level 4 to level 5).
Primary attribute is Perception, Secondary is Willpower.
With base Perception of 4 and Willpower of 7, Spatial Awareness lv 5, Clarity lv 3, Iron Will lv 5, Focus lv 2, Learning lv 5, and both relevant Basic implants, your attributes would be:
Perception is (4+5+3+3)*(1+(5*0.02)) = 16.5
Willpower is (7+5+2+3)*(1+(5*0.02)) = 18.7
(256000-45255)/(16.5+(18.7/2)) = 8,152.61 minutes or 5 Days, 15 Hours, 52 Minutes, 36 Seconds. If you checked this against the numbers in EVE, it would match within a second, every time. (It may be 1 second off due to the way EVE rounds off the seconds.)
The Payoff: How high should you train the Learnng skills?
Constantly debated is how worthwhile it is to train any of the 11 learning skills (especially the so-called Advanced learning skills) up to level 5. To summarize a few different threads of mine, the ôpayoffö times for training the various learning skills are as follows:
The Learning skill from level 4 to level 5: 243-406 Days (varies a lot player to player)
The Advanced learning skills from level 4 to level 5: 3 Years, 235 Days, 11 Hours, 3 Minutes, and 38 Seconds
The 5 Elite learning skills from level 4 to level 5: 5 Years, 191 Days, 20 Hours, 23 Minutes, and 41 Seconds (Note: The Elite Learning Skills currently are not a plan
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Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.27 05:03:00 -
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thx for the try, but this dont help much :/
I know how to calculate the skill trainingtime. I also have allready the code to get attributes including learningskills.
The problem is that in the char.xml the current skillpoints is cached everytime you switch the skill. And there is no hint when you last switched the skill. So i have no clue how long the skill is allready training and how many skillpoints are left to complete.
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community
Eve-Client for Logitech G15 Client?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=393059 |
Wysia
Minmatar
Neuronal Loneliness
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:43:00 -
[16]
Maybe if you have a look here you will find a clue ?
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Havalok
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:49:00 -
[17]
nice idea.
a nice feature would be to display the ingame chat on the lcd.
for that you could watch the chat logfiles in EVE\capture\Chatlogs for changes.
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Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:10:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Havalok
nice idea.
a nice feature would be to display the ingame chat on the lcd.
for that you could watch the chat logfiles in EVE\capture\Chatlogs for changes.
Don't think that it is that easy to do, but i will have a look at it as soon as i have some time for it (RL is a bit busy atm)
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community
Eve-Client for Logitech G15 Keyboard?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=393059 |
Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.03 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Morphed Override
what version of the LCD Drivers are you running. :/
i downloaded and installed the latest Java.
Ran the file still no luck :'(
About to try reverting back to the old drivers.
EDIT: Yes it is the drivers. Is there any chance you could get it to support the latest drivers available from logitech's website?
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=322,CONTENTID=10824
and also consider looking at: http://www.g15forums.com/forum/
from what i have seen people are always willing to give help :) and it also a means to get your work to more people :)
EDIT 2:
Got it to work to a degree :/
get the java applet to load, but nothing comes up on screen.
Finaly i've testet is with difrent drivers, but no problems at all. Works fine for me. Looks like it's another problem.
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community
Eve-Client for Logitech G15 Keyboard?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=393059 |
Chesko
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Posted - 2006.10.03 22:01:00 -
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Everlyn, first off, great work, I've been looking for a community mod like this for some time now. Hat's off to you.
However, I'm sure there are several people who will not want to use your client because you have to enter your username/password information for the java program to access your character's statistics. Can you inform everyone of a mechanism to check to make sure that it is only authenticating against CCP's servers, and not simply sending you my UN/PW so you can l33thaXor my account and steal all my stuff? I'm not trying to cast doubt or discredit upon you, but I think if you informed everyone of a mechanism which they can see exactly where this UN/PW is being sent, you'll become much more popular.
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Wysia
Minmatar
Neuronal Loneliness
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Posted - 2006.10.04 07:43:00 -
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I'm using the client everyday ... and I'm still here, no stolen caracters :)
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Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.04 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chesko
Everlyn, first off, great work, I've been looking for a community mod like this for some time now. Hat's off to you.
However, I'm sure there are several people who will not want to use your client because you have to enter your username/password information for the java program to access your character's statistics. Can you inform everyone of a mechanism to check to make sure that it is only authenticating against CCP's servers, and not simply sending you my UN/PW so you can l33thaXor my account and steal all my stuff? I'm not trying to cast doubt or discredit upon you, but I think if you informed everyone of a mechanism which they can see exactly where this UN/PW is being sent, you'll become much more popular.
Best thing I could imagin would be that CCP checks the source of community-tools and mark them as "CCP-Proofed" but don't know if someone from CCP knows engougt about Java to do that and have the time for it.
I know there are tools that check to what IP's a program connect to. If you use one of these you se that I'm only connecting to myeve.eveonline.com. Dont have the name for one atm but maybe you find something in google. If i have the time and find something a will post a link here.
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community
Eve-Client for Logitech G15 Keyboard?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=393059 |
Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.05 06:41:00 -
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I have found something:
http://www.zdnet.de/downloads/prg/6/9/en10062969-wc.html
with this tool you can check open connections, ports and also remote-ip for every running application.
Didn't tested it yet with my tool because I'm at work at the moment but will later today.
You still need to input your username/password before you see if the tool is sending something out. But if you see it you can fast change your pass and everything is fine.
Or you can make a trail-account, use the tool with this account, and when you are sure it is save to use you can use it with your main account.
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community
Eve-Client for Logitech G15 Keyboard?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=393059 |
Narusegawa Naru
Gallente
Spectrum Solutions INC
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Posted - 2006.10.05 08:49:00 -
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Is there a screenshot of the various informations your outputting? Would like to see it :)
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Chesko
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Posted - 2006.10.05 14:32:00 -
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Thanks for being so forthcoming, Everlyn, I'll try that out when I get home today.
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Everlyn
Gallente
Brave New World
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.02 19:05:00 -
[26]
*update*
now version 0.95 is available
Fixes and new features:
better performance when switsching between characters
display server-status fpr TQ and now also Sisi (Kali testeserver)
Everlyn
Brave New World - Founder
OPUS Alliance
German Gaming Community
Eve-Client for Logitech G15 Keyboard?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=393059 |
Brutor Shaun
Minmatar
Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.02 19:39:00 -
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Got it working eventually.....if only the server was up to test it!!!
One small problem. I have a Nokia N73 with the relevant software installed, and for some reason when I click the launch icon, G15 client tries to install to my phone!!!??? Had to change the file type, so now G15 client works, but the installers for my phone don't!!
Got me confused.
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Sean Graves
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Posted - 2006.11.02 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sean Graves on 02/11/2006 20:17:29
I finally have it working also.
A couple things arent displaying (training time and wallet) wallet doesnt display on my fifth account.
long names are garbled at the and but its a minor annonance.
Is there a way to make it rotate through accounts and my normal rotation items I usually leave it on my teamspeak window so I can see who is talking.
I had to restart it a couple times, I have a logitech remote control and it was trying to out put the eve display to my remote.
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George Glenlivet
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Posted - 2006.11.02 20:25:00 -
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Any chance you will release the source to this app, so we could read through it and compile it by ourselves?
I tend to distrust tools that require you to enter your passwords, atleast when i don't have the chance to verify the code before i use it.
Sounds like a nice app for one of my pretty much useless gadgets though.
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Wysia
Minmatar
Neuronal Loneliness
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Posted - 2006.11.02 23:44:00 -
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Working great ... except for my second account which doesn't display anything, no training time on my first (but the skill he is training is correctly displayed like his wallet)
And yes, can you make it rotate with our others displayed items ?
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