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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:30:00 -
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Once the dust has settled from the release and clean-up of Crucible. Can we have a true FIS and possibly WIS content oriented expansion, an expansion with nothing but NEW CONTENT?
4 new ships (that players helped design lol) and some mods, for me isn't content and hardly should be called an "expansion"
I'd call this a really big PATCH with cookies
so next patch can I haz milk wizdma cookiez?
Either way you want to spin it, I like a lot of things you have done with Crucible CCP so kudos, just nothing NEW to do.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:31:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote: nothing NEW to do.
Go blow up some POCOs |
DarkAegix
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:33:00 -
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It's a patchspansion. |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:35:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:It's a patchspansion.
can i haz your autograph?!
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Shawnm339
Galactic Shipyards Inc
NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:37:00 -
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I like it there is so many small moments of win in this patch/expansion that it taken as a whole is great........if you're a bitter vet no matter what you get it will never be enough but for the average joe that pays our sik by debit or credit card it looks and feels so much better |
mkint
404
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:44:00 -
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The pi nerf among other nerfs to small groups makes this an expansion. One that gameplay-wise sucks for anyone not in a rmt alliance but still an expansion. The message? If you want your gameplay to be buffed, then rmt. |
THXBYE
Elite War Squad
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:47:00 -
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Tell them to add all my suggestions and it will be more of an expansion other than a patch maybe!
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opati
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:48:00 -
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i dont need new stuff
i need polished old stuff
if old stuff is polished, release new stuff |
Planktal
Kenshao Industries
Galactic Acqisition Specialists
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:00:00 -
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It's an expansion, just the first part of it tho.
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Cael Darkstar
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:23:00 -
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Just a large patch. Added fluff and 4 new ships, changed a few pre-existing things. Hope to see a higher quality release next go around. Maybe they will get Assault Ships and Faction Warfare a go shortly. Over all this "expansion" didn't effect me much. But I enjoy the changes to destroyers. All in all CCP delivers, just everyone sees it differently to some degree. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:27:00 -
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Paper Cuts expansion.
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Nephilius
Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:33:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:Once the dust has settled from the release and clean-up of Crucible. Can we have a true FIS and possibly WIS content oriented expansion, an expansion with nothing but NEW CONTENT?
4 new ships (that players helped design lol) and some mods, for me isn't content and hardly should be called an "expansion"
I'd call this a really big PATCH with cookies
so next patch can I haz milk wizdma cookiez?
Either way you want to spin it, I like a lot of things you have done with Crucible CCP so kudos, just nothing NEW to do.
Four new ships, new mods, how is that not content? Seriusly, do you want a dragon boss that you have to fight at the Eve Gate or something?
The fact that hybrids and destroyers got reworked alone is worth the price of admission. Short of galaxy wide war, what would you call content?
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Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.11.30 02:14:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:arcca jeth wrote:Once the dust has settled from the release and clean-up of Crucible. Can we have a true FIS and possibly WIS content oriented expansion, an expansion with nothing but NEW CONTENT?
4 new ships (that players helped design lol) and some mods, for me isn't content and hardly should be called an "expansion"
I'd call this a really big PATCH with cookies
so next patch can I haz milk wizdma cookiez?
Either way you want to spin it, I like a lot of things you have done with Crucible CCP so kudos, just nothing NEW to do.
Four new ships, new mods, how is that not content? Seriusly, do you want a dragon boss that you have to fight at the Eve Gate or something? The fact that hybrids and destroyers got reworked alone is worth the price of admission. Short of galaxy wide war, what would you call content?
Apocrypha.
And yes to the dragon thing. |
Mahakaharashi RedEagle
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2011.11.30 02:16:00 -
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It's a fluffy patch.
Kuronaga wrote:Apocrypha.
+Trinity
+Revelations |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2011.11.30 02:33:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:It's a patchspansion. I think thanks Icelandic for "bounce of the unwell cat".  |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:53:00 -
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make no mistake, i don't dislike anything in particular at all in this expansion. there was a lot of things done that make me happy because they needed to be done. i guess to some new ships and mods is content. for me the last thing i got excited about doing was exploring wormholes. I remember when that expansion came out, I immediately went exploring for wormholes and i played that part of the game for months. it was great content.....so, to me, that's what i consider real content.
long needed fixes, balancing and polishing could be rolled out in small patches over time as they become ready. waiting to roll them up all in one big patchxpansion lol (thank you conan) then throwing some cookies at me doesn't really, to me, suit the games long term growth needs. cookies, remember, that someone else baked and CCP just pulled them out of the oven lol
so i'd really like to see CCP do something along those lines again that gets me excited to go do something new |
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:00:00 -
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There isn't much content to be thrown into a PLAYER DRIVEN SANDBOX.
They have given us new tools in the way of 4 new ships, which will introduce a very different playstyle. Ontop of that the reworked hybrids and destroyers pretty much make all destroyers and gallente ships new ships.
Throw in some shiny artwork to satisfy the shallow ones and you have a fairly rounded expansion, especially considering how long it took. If you can't expand with the tools provided to you, then you're doing it wrong. |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
22
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:09:00 -
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Soi Mala wrote:There isn't much content to be thrown into a PLAYER DRIVEN SANDBOX.
If you actually believe this, then you have a very limited imagination |
Ashterothi
Aideron Robotics
3
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:12:00 -
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I site this thread as irrevocable evidence that NOTHING will make the community happy. Good lord people, what you are suggesting of just adding in new things without thinking of WHY your doing it is exactly the mindset that led to things like last summer.
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
22
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:21:00 -
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Ashterothi wrote:I site this thread as irrevocable evidence that NOTHING will make the community happy. Good lord people, what you are suggesting of just adding in new things without thinking of WHY your doing it is exactly the mindset that led to things like last summer.
you can "cite" it all you want that's fine. and yes NOTHING will make the community happy and fact it is this reason why the game will continue to be better. because dissatisfaction pushes CCP to continue to focus on refining and adding to the game. pressure = progress and challenges = goals to achieve. if everyone was happy, then there would be nothing to strive for now would there?
If you read my posts, I am happy with what they have done. what i am asking for, is for the NEXT expansion to actually REALLY EXPAND on the game, dynamic gameplay and more content. I still can't get my friends to play this game, even if i let them play on one of my accounts for FREE!
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:22:00 -
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Ashterothi wrote:I site this thread as irrevocable evidence that NOTHING will make the community happy. Good lord people, what you are suggesting of just adding in new things without thinking of WHY your doing it is exactly the mindset that led to things like last summer.
This, stfu and stop complaining.
Have you seen the new trailer btw? It is AWESOME!
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RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
143
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:22:00 -
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it's only an expansion if there are new skills
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Sader Rykane
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
140
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:25:00 -
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Ashterothi wrote:I site this thread as irrevocable evidence that NOTHING will make the community happy. Good lord people, what you are suggesting of just adding in new things without thinking of WHY your doing it is exactly the mindset that led to things like last summer.
You're wrong.
You see this expansion made people feel content because it fixed broken things and in general improved the usability and function of the game.
This ENTIRE expansion is one big "Duh..." moment, with a bunch of **** in it that should have been in the game YEARS ago.
To be clear, this makes this a fantastic PATCH. An absolutely PHENOMENAL patch.
But it's a patch, not a expansion.
The last EXPANSION was Incursion, and the last TRUE massive expansion was Apocrypha and that one was a DAMNED good one that made people very, VERY happy. |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:25:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Ashterothi wrote:I site this thread as irrevocable evidence that NOTHING will make the community happy. Good lord people, what you are suggesting of just adding in new things without thinking of WHY your doing it is exactly the mindset that led to things like last summer.
This, stfu and stop complaining. Have you seen the new trailer btw? It is AWESOME!
how about you shut your lips and learn lol how about you read UP. I am trying to push CCP for their next big challenge. It is not easy to add more content to a game, because you actually have to be creative. so keep telling people to STFU because it makes you feel like a strong man using adult words. it makes you look good too
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:29:00 -
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Have you seen the new trailer btw? It is AWESOME![/quote]
trailers are for ooohs and ahhhs that look awesome if you like to watch 1-3 minute animated shorts. i haven't watched it yet because i don't care for them. they misrepresent the game, really
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Federigo Mondial
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:29:00 -
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I rather they keep doing fixes and do new content later. I don't care if WIS or DUST514 not appears until Winter 2012 or even Spring 2013. But moar fixes and balancing please.
Tyvm. |
ViRUS Pottage
SniggWaffe
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:31:00 -
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You can't drop expansions like you can on WoW to EVE.
You can't copy some code, change some values, make 6 new skins and release it as a raid that people spend months doing. EVE doesn't work like that.
I'd rather everything get ironed out so it's smooth with everything as balanced as possible than adding 500 new ships with no purpose other than "content". |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:32:00 -
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Ashterothi wrote:I site this thread as irrevocable evidence that NOTHING will make the community happy. Good lord people, what you are suggesting of just adding in new things without thinking of WHY your doing it is exactly the mindset that led to things like last summer.
No it isn't. The problem is that you pulled that "without thinking WHY" out of your own ass and mistook it as a solid fact, instead of seeing it as a solid of another kind that it actually is. There are literally dozens if not hundreds of concrete ideas to add new content/improve the existing content and CCP is well aware of that. The main problem with adding any of that in this expansion wasn't the lack of "whys". It was the short time they had to make the expansion after the refocusing to FIS. Major reworking of anything or making of new large features simply wasn't feasable with the time they had. That is why we got a fixing papercuts expansion now and why it's not unreasonable to expect some larger feature reworking/new content in the next expansion. |
Dusty Meg
Redbull Air Race Inc
4
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:38:00 -
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This is a great expansion. I personnaly have been waiting for the fixes this has brought us for years. The new ships, 3 new captains quarters. New pos fuel blocks. New nebulae. New time dialation. New T2 modules. This is well worthy of being called an expansion for those things, let along all the things that they have either brought back or balanced again like the hybrids.
Edit: Almost forgot the stunning new ship graphics. My Viator looks amazing
Sader Rykane wrote:Ashterothi wrote:I site this thread as irrevocable evidence that NOTHING will make the community happy. Good lord people, what you are suggesting of just adding in new things without thinking of WHY your doing it is exactly the mindset that led to things like last summer.
You're wrong. You see this expansion made people feel content because it fixed broken things and in general improved the usability and function of the game. This ENTIRE expansion is one big "Duh..." moment, with a bunch of **** in it that should have been in the game YEARS ago. To be clear, this makes this a fantastic PATCH. An absolutely PHENOMENAL patch. But it's a patch, not a expansion. The last EXPANSION was Incursion, and the last TRUE massive expansion was Apocrypha and that one was a DAMNED good one that made people very, VERY happy.
Err last expansion was Incarna. It may not have been finished but its still an EXPANSION. |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:43:00 -
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Dusty Meg wrote:This is a great expansion. I personnaly have been waiting for the fixes this has brought us for years. The new ships, 3 new captains quarters. New pos fuel blocks. New nebulae. New time dialation. New T2 modules. This is well worthy of being called an expansion for those things, let along all the things that they have either brought back or balanced again like the hybrids. Edit: Almost forgot the stunning new ship graphics. My Viator looks amazing Sader Rykane wrote:Ashterothi wrote:I site this thread as irrevocable evidence that NOTHING will make the community happy. Good lord people, what you are suggesting of just adding in new things without thinking of WHY your doing it is exactly the mindset that led to things like last summer.
You're wrong. You see this expansion made people feel content because it fixed broken things and in general improved the usability and function of the game. This ENTIRE expansion is one big "Duh..." moment, with a bunch of **** in it that should have been in the game YEARS ago. To be clear, this makes this a fantastic PATCH. An absolutely PHENOMENAL patch. But it's a patch, not a expansion. The last EXPANSION was Incursion, and the last TRUE massive expansion was Apocrypha and that one was a DAMNED good one that made people very, VERY happy. Err last expansion was Incarna. It may not have been finished but its still an EXPANSION.
i think the part you missed was the word MASSIVE and Apocrypha rolled out FINISHED
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Dusty Meg
Redbull Air Race Inc
4
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:46:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:Dusty Meg wrote:This is a great expansion. I personnaly have been waiting for the fixes this has brought us for years. The new ships, 3 new captains quarters. New pos fuel blocks. New nebulae. New time dialation. New T2 modules. This is well worthy of being called an expansion for those things, let along all the things that they have either brought back or balanced again like the hybrids. Edit: Almost forgot the stunning new ship graphics. My Viator looks amazing Sader Rykane wrote:Ashterothi wrote:I site this thread as irrevocable evidence that NOTHING will make the community happy. Good lord people, what you are suggesting of just adding in new things without thinking of WHY your doing it is exactly the mindset that led to things like last summer.
You're wrong. You see this expansion made people feel content because it fixed broken things and in general improved the usability and function of the game. This ENTIRE expansion is one big "Duh..." moment, with a bunch of **** in it that should have been in the game YEARS ago. To be clear, this makes this a fantastic PATCH. An absolutely PHENOMENAL patch. But it's a patch, not a expansion. The last EXPANSION was Incursion, and the last TRUE massive expansion was Apocrypha and that one was a DAMNED good one that made people very, VERY happy. Err last expansion was Incarna. It may not have been finished but its still an EXPANSION. i think the part you missed was the word MASSIVE and Apocrypha rolled out FINISHED
Nop didnt miss out any words "The last EXPANSION was Incursion" that was what my last line was on about |
Bienator II
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
319
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:47:00 -
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as of today, its a patched expansion
a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
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