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Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 13:36:00 - [31] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi military people and civilians dead or dying for the very cause for freedom the world over and from all countries to keep such #&^% from ever happening again and to keep your sorry butts safe and right to use your disrespecting mouths in the first place. Put things in perspective and for the sake of those that are trying to keep the terrorism in check, be more respectful. Watch less TV. Or maybe more. Not sure which. Maybe just stop talking? ----------
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 13:41:00 - [32] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 11/09/2006 13:46:32 Originally by: Michiyo Daishi Originally by: Erosie You do realize that it was not AL-Quadia was behind this attacks, but the Bush administraion ?? No? Lose Change check this out and see for yourself With this post, this entire thread has crossed the very thin line between a memorial thread, and a political statement. Nice going, NOT FFS, it's talking about an event that caused a war, of course it's terrible what happened to the people of NY, but the worst thing to come from that day was a pretext for Team America to do their thing. The line between memorial thread and political statement was crossed about here: Quote: america and the rest of the world was attack by islamic fools. much like the japanesse during WWII they have woken a giant. May alah have no mercy on the islamic people who are invovled in anyway. IBTL? ----------
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.09.11 14:25:00 - [33] man those cops and fireman had balls, some still going into the north even though its stability was questioned after the south fell.
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.09.11 14:40:00 - [34] Gentlemen and a few ladies, one thing that should be reminded of is not only the deaths of 9-11 but the changes the world went through because of it. Massive changes, political ones, miltary ones and many demographic ones have been undertaken because of this single tragic event. Yes it was a very BIG thing. Many thousands of people died with in the matter of minutes not over the course of hours days or weeks but in a very small finite time frame. Many countries have faced their disasters and tragedies. But few countries also have the global influence the United states have or had at that time and a ballsy enough president to take a stand and yes **** off the world and a great many people. I don't care for anyones opinions of my country or my president but what I do care for now is we are on a global mission to keep this act of terrorism from ever happening to us or to anyone else ever again. Many young folks don't under stand what really happened back in 2001 and some if many don't care since it doesn't fit into their little world. I pray that these same people who are so quick to discredit and disrespect things they know little about; never ever see the very incident(s) they are so quick to be judgemental about and which in due course people like me and from other militaries of the world are fighting and dying for those very same causes. We can't take back what happened that day but many wish they could, the ones that lost loved ones and ones that have lost loved ones since that day fighting terrorism all over the world. It is to these people that I remember 9-11 for because the effects of that very event is still carrying us all on its ripples to this day. added This is also why we must never forget so we will never let it happen again. Like the holocaust or other past world tragic events that have shaped history both good or bad in ways that reflect what we have today. Remembering this day is not just a United States thing. It is a world thing because this event changed the entire world. Look back before 9-11 and think of how much terrorism was talked about. Now look how much it is in the light of things today. It doesn't matter who is making the most noise about it, it does matter now that the entire world is noticing it and taking action against it. It is this reason why it is rememberd and will be remembered to ward off our lazy ways and complacentcy in thinking we are safe when we really aren't if we don't work to keep ourselves and other safe from these things. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 14:42:00 - [35] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Team America, **** yeah! Fixed ----------
Mak'shar Karrde Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.11 14:45:00 - [36] Edited by: Mak''shar Karrde on 11/09/2006 14:46:57 The victims of the attack on 9/11 are not responsible for the politicians who carry out horrors in their name. And damn! You made me type 9/11. I did, of course, mean 11/9. Grumbles Bloody Americans, corrupting me with your strange customs.
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 14:50:00 - [37] Originally by: Mak'shar Karrde The victims of the attack on 9/11 are not responsible for the politicians who carry out horrors in their name. Since being at ground zero, I've always felt it was New York that was attacked, but all of America that responsed. Like NY is its own little country that experienced a tragedy, which was then twisted to meet the agenda of the US in general. ----------
Spenz Gallente Empire POS Experiment	Posted - 2006.09.11 14:51:00 - [38] I for one shall never forget 9/11. I dunno about other people but I found suicide commercial airliners to be pretty disturbing. Its one thing to see a japanese plane plunging towards a US carrier with flak and tracers going all over....its another thing to see a wide-bodied Boeing 767 that I have flow on countless times come screaming in at full speed right into a US landmark that I wanted to visit someday when I was older. Bush-hate syndrome has turned many people into monsters. Quite sad really. Its getting harder to find someone disgusted by the acts of terrorists (whoever they may be) simply because they dont like Bush or the US. As much as I dislike these children who werent old enough in 2001 to fully appreciate the horror of this act, I pray that they will never have to see something that horrific in the future, where they CAN appreciate the horror of an act that was beyond anything previously seen before (we have seen bus bombs and airplane bombs, but airliners turned into guided missiles aimed at the tallest building they could find? I had never heard of that happening before). May the dieties bless those who died, and may they pass proper judgement on those who instigated this horrible act along with those who support it.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 14:58:00 - [39] Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 11/09/2006 15:01:32 Originally by: Spenz Bush-hate syndrome has turned many people into monsters. Quite sad really. Its getting harder to find someone disgusted by the acts of terrorists (whoever they may be) simply because they dont like Bush or the US. Here's a fact for you. Less than 3000 people were killed in the twin towers attack. The American response to this attack resulted in 70,000 deaths, many of them inncoent civilians. Still love your precious government? Edit: deleted a line that could be considered flamebait. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:00:00 - [40] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 11/09/2006 15:02:35 Originally by: Spenz Bush-hate syndrome has turned many people into monsters. Quite sad really. Its getting harder to find someone disgusted by the acts of terrorists (whoever they may be) simply because they dont like Bush or the US. Be careful not to mix up people who are simply more concerned about bush with people who really don't understand what happened. Originally by: Spenz an act that was beyond anything previously seen before Edit, better example: Linkage ----------
Sparrling	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:01:00 - [41] Personally I'm just annoyed I have to live with harder travelling rules because of an attack on a totally unrelated nation in a totally unrelated war. Lives are lost. Sad that, both american and eurasian. Why on earth can't just ONE side say "Ok, you got the last blow. Let's just stop the fighting now."
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:05:00 - [42] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 11/09/2006 15:01:32 Originally by: Spenz Bush-hate syndrome has turned many people into monsters. Quite sad really. Its getting harder to find someone disgusted by the acts of terrorists (whoever they may be) simply because they dont like Bush or the US. Here's a fact for you. Less than 3000 people were killed in the twin towers attack. The American response to this attack resulted in 70,000 deaths, many of them inncoent civilians. Still love your precious government? Edit: deleted a line that could be considered flamebait. Actually it was over 4,000. and no there hasn't been 70,000 deaths in cause of it nor by the hand of the president you seem to hate so much. I love my government and for what we stand for. Pretty sure many other Americans can say they love their country. Some hate bush some don't. But like you many don't have a damn clue what men like him and other positions of government across the world go through or have to go through or the decisions they have to make to safe guard THEIR country or people. Please take your American hatism somewhere else. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Spike Larosse Occassus Republica Process of Elimination	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:06:00 - [43] A sad day indeed, both in itself and considering the implicit consequences of it. I'll never cease to be amazed by all the heroic efforts in the midst of this tragedy, and all the security personnel that gave their lives to save others. Words are just not enough. However I feel I also need to send a thought to all the innocent people, civilians aswell as soldiers, that have died ever since, ironically in what has been labeled a war on terror, by the terrorists leading it. May it be in Iraq or Afghanistan, Madrid or London, and elswhere in the world. Let's pod all those people with a too big desire to wield their power, and then all NAP eachother and live in peace. ------------------------------------------------ -OCC-
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:09:00 - [44] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Actually it was over 4,000. and no there hasn't been 70,000 deaths in cause of it nor by the hand of the president you seem to hate so much. I love my government and for what we stand for. Pretty sure many other Americans can say they love their country. Some hate bush some don't. But like you many don't have a damn clue what men like him and other positions of government across the world go through or have to go through or the decisions they have to make to safe guard THEIR country or people. Please take your American hatism somewhere else. Are you really this clueless or are you just a very good troll? If you're a troll, congrats, you're the best I've seen, well, ever. If, on the other hand, you think America attacking arbitrary countries is about sa***uarding its people, you've won the award for stupidest person, well, just stupidest person full stop really. ----------
Sparrling	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:13:00 - [45] This thread should really be deleted, nothing good can come out of it. Really, what are people trying to achieve? This is the kind of discussion where you can't turn the other side, so what's the point in trying?
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:16:00 - [46] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Originally by: ReaperOfSly Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 11/09/2006 15:01:32 Originally by: Spenz Bush-hate syndrome has turned many people into monsters. Quite sad really. Its getting harder to find someone disgusted by the acts of terrorists (whoever they may be) simply because they dont like Bush or the US. Here's a fact for you. Less than 3000 people were killed in the twin towers attack. The American response to this attack resulted in 70,000 deaths, many of them inncoent civilians. Still love your precious government? Edit: deleted a line that could be considered flamebait. Actually it was over 4,000. and no there hasn't been 70,000 deaths in cause of it nor by the hand of the president you seem to hate so much. I love my government and for what we stand for. Pretty sure many other Americans can say they love their country. Some hate bush some don't. But like you many don't have a damn clue what men like him and other positions of government across the world go through or have to go through or the decisions they have to make to safe guard THEIR country or people. Please take your American hatism somewhere else. I don't hate America. Nor do I bear any particular malice towards George Bush or his administration. It just makes my blood boil when people such as yourself get all holier-than-thou because I refuse to regard the twin towers attack as more than it was. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:17:00 - [47] Originally by: Sparrling This thread should really be deleted, nothing good can come out of it. Really, what are people trying to achieve? This is the kind of discussion where you can't turn the other side, so what's the point in trying? I'm not trying to achieve anything, but not responding to someone spouting american propaganda on the forum is FTL. IBTL ----------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:18:00 - [48] Originally by: Sparrling This thread should really be deleted, nothing good can come out of it. Really, what are people trying to achieve? This is the kind of discussion where you can't turn the other side, so what's the point in trying? Yes, I agree. This has turned into a flame fest. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:20:00 - [49] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Actually it was over 4,000. and no there hasn't been 70,000 deaths in cause of it nor by the hand of the president you seem to hate so much. I love my government and for what we stand for. Pretty sure many other Americans can say they love their country. Some hate bush some don't. But like you many don't have a damn clue what men like him and other positions of government across the world go through or have to go through or the decisions they have to make to safe guard THEIR country or people. Please take your American hatism somewhere else. Are you really this clueless or are you just a very good troll? If you're a troll, congrats, you're the best I've seen, well, ever. If, on the other hand, you think America attacking arbitrary countries is about sa***uarding its people, you've won the award for stupidest person, well, just stupidest person full stop really. If you are refering to Iraq then no, that is just unfinished business and a ploy to put political influence into that/this area of the world. I really don't care how or why it came about, the people here are relishing what freedom that they are being brought. I don't think it is related to what happened on 9-11 just an invoked fear mechanism of 'what ifs' scenarios that our government found excuses to knock out two birds with one stone. You sir are the one making yourself out into an idiot and I wish you would stop. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Sakura Nihil Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:26:00 - [50] Alright, seriously, this has gone too far - both sides need to seriously STFU, and take their political arguments somewhere else besides the EVE-O boards. This thread needs to be a tribute to those people that were working that day like normal when planes slammed into their office tower and killed them, not on your views on the world. Keep this thread about the people who died ffs, its the least we can do to them to remember what they went through. Tharsis wants you - click it ;)
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:26:00 - [51] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi If you are refering to Iraq then no, that is just unfinished business and a ploy to put political influence into that/this area of the world. I really don't care how or why it came about, the people here are relishing what freedom that they are being brought. I don't think it is related to what happened on 9-11 just an invoked fear mechanism of 'what ifs' scenarios that our government found excuses to knock out two birds with one stone. You sir are the one making yourself out into an idiot and I wish you would stop. Iraq was just another target in the 'war on terror' supposedly started due to 9/11, supposedly about stopping ~~terrorism~~ terror. While the 'liberation' of Iraq may or may not have been a good thing, you either support America going around attacking whoever they like, or you don't. You, apparently, do. ----------
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:26:00 - [52] Originally by: ReaperOfSly I don't hate America. Nor do I bear any particular malice towards George Bush or his administration. It just makes my blood boil when people such as yourself get all holier-than-thou because I refuse to regard the twin towers attack as more than it was. The don't regard it at all and should have just kept it to yourself. In these remarks and your actions, I get a picture of you being one of those few that would go to a woman's rally to speak about them being out of place or going to a burial for a soldier and carrying an anti war banner. I am standing in the defense of my nation and this post for the rememberence of what that day meant for the entire world and not just my country. If the event didn't effect you or your life then great I am jealous because there are many upon many now that don't have that benefit. It isn't because of our president or other world leaders. It is becaues of the damn people who have nothing but hate in their heart (like you) that bear these problems onto a world or the people and expect them to just cow down and bend over in subjection. Like hell. If it is your fashion the do so, but it is not my peoples or other people of the world who will never give into terrorism. This post started honestly and you and your buddy decided to come in spouting hate and other crap to derail the threads good intention in remembering a day that changed the world (maybe just not the area you live in). So no sir shame on you and your own audacity. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:30:00 - [53] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Alright, seriously, this has gone too far - both sides need to seriously STFU, and take their political arguments somewhere else besides the EVE-O boards. This thread needs to be a tribute to those people that were working that day like normal when planes slammed into their office tower and killed them, not on your views on the world. Keep this thread about the people who died ffs, its the least we can do to them to remember what they went through. I totally agree with that dude, but I will not stand by and watch as these two fools mock and berate the event and try to downplay its importance to the United States and to the world. If they didn't like then they didn't have to read it. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:30:00 - [54] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Originally by: ReaperOfSly I don't hate America. Nor do I bear any particular malice towards George Bush or his administration. It just makes my blood boil when people such as yourself get all holier-than-thou because I refuse to regard the twin towers attack as more than it was. The don't regard it at all and should have just kept it to yourself. In these remarks and your actions, I get a picture of you being one of those few that would go to a woman's rally to speak about them being out of place or going to a burial for a soldier and carrying an anti war banner. I am standing in the defense of my nation and this post for the rememberence of what that day meant for the entire world and not just my country. If the event didn't effect you or your life then great I am jealous because there are many upon many now that don't have that benefit. It isn't because of our president or other world leaders. It is becaues of the damn people who have nothing but hate in their heart (like you) that bear these problems onto a world or the people and expect them to just cow down and bend over in subjection. Like hell. If it is your fashion the do so, but it is not my peoples or other people of the world who will never give into terrorism. This post started honestly and you and your buddy decided to come in spouting hate and other crap to derail the threads good intention in remembering a day that changed the world (maybe just not the area you live in). So no sir shame on you and your own audacity. What this day meant for the world changed when it turned into an excuse for the most powerful country in the world to do what they like under the leadership of an imbecile. The current war is America's doing, 9/11 was just a catalyst. This post was never just a memorial. ----------
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:32:00 - [55] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Originally by: Sakura Nihil Alright, seriously, this has gone too far - both sides need to seriously STFU, and take their political arguments somewhere else besides the EVE-O boards. This thread needs to be a tribute to those people that were working that day like normal when planes slammed into their office tower and killed them, not on your views on the world. Keep this thread about the people who died ffs, its the least we can do to them to remember what they went through. I totally agree with that dude, but I will not stand by and watch as these two fools mock and berate the event and try to downplay its importance to the United States and to the world. If they didn't like then they didn't have to read it. I am not mocking or berating the event. I am also not downplaying it's importance. America declaring war on a certain part of the world is a lot more important though. ----------
Erotic Irony Occassus Republica Process of Elimination	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:33:00 - [56] Crumple, do us all a favor and shoot the mods an email, [email protected], alerting them to this thread. Don't mind Wimbishi, he's an American military drone IRL so it's not surprising he so clueless. Avon: For the love of all the is holy, do as the man says CCP.
Sparrling	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:34:00 - [57] Seriously though, this post should never have been made in the first place. At least not in the respect it was made. If I'm not mistaken this game's populace is primarily European, and it should be clear by now that most Europeans view the whole US thing with pretty critical eyes. And there will always be persons with feelings for a subject who just can't keep it to themselves. It's called humanity
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:39:00 - [58] Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 11/09/2006 15:41:59 Originally by: Erotic Irony Crumple, do us all a favor and shoot the mods an email, [email protected], alerting them to this thread. Don't mind Wimbishi, he's an American military drone IRL so it's not surprising he so clueless. My boots have more wit then both of you put together. I'm getting out very soon like in 5 1/2 months anyways. To much political crap in the military. I've had enough of it after 8 years of service and want to enjoy life with my new wife. Thats only to educate you since you are more clueless then me. I hope he does so they can lock the thread. Everyone including myself have already railed off the thread from its purpose thanks going to ISS. this will be remembered in knowing the morality and caliber of people you two really are. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:40:00 - [59] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Originally by: ReaperOfSly I don't hate America. Nor do I bear any particular malice towards George Bush or his administration. It just makes my blood boil when people such as yourself get all holier-than-thou because I refuse to regard the twin towers attack as more than it was. The don't regard it at all and should have just kept it to yourself. In these remarks and your actions, I get a picture of you being one of those few that would go to a woman's rally to speak about them being out of place or going to a burial for a soldier and carrying an anti war banner. I am standing in the defense of my nation and this post for the rememberence of what that day meant for the entire world and not just my country. If the event didn't effect you or your life then great I am jealous because there are many upon many now that don't have that benefit. It isn't because of our president or other world leaders. It is becaues of the damn people who have nothing but hate in their heart (like you) that bear these problems onto a world or the people and expect them to just cow down and bend over in subjection. Like hell. If it is your fashion the do so, but it is not my peoples or other people of the world who will never give into terrorism. This post started honestly and you and your buddy decided to come in spouting hate and other crap to derail the threads good intention in remembering a day that changed the world (maybe just not the area you live in). So no sir shame on you and your own audacity. Never in my life have I seen such a twisted interpretation of my words. I hate to have to post again here, but this cannot go unanswered. I tried to put the whole thing into perspective with the rest of the world's woes and now you've basically labeled me a fascist freedom-hating pig. You claim to be in the American armed forces. I seriously doubt anyone in that position could be so unprofessional as you. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.11 15:43:00 - [60] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Also those with hardly no damn heart and are nothing more then mouths with virtual balls, be nice for once and stop freaking trolling an honest thread. I highly doubt over four thousand people died from aids in the time of 5 mins... How is the time frame relevant? A dead is a dead, whatever the way he died or his nationality. Each death is a tragedy, to be avoided if at all possible, but I don't want to start thinking as some deaths being worth "more" than others. I once saw on a forum, just before the irak war "Better 1000 irakis deads than one US soldier". That shocked me, and I don't want to start thinking the same way that that particular poster. Originally by: Lord Wimbishi ... and surely doublt that many people die from falling out of bed in all of England over a five year time frame. So please keep these stupid comments to yourselves. No one cares if you hate Bush or the United States people or what they stand for. I am pretty positive if multiple thousand people died on some historical country landmark prized in your country would you still be so damn cynic about it. Afaik, the united states stand for liberty, democracy, things like that, that I approve wholeheartedly. However, look at what Bush did: Get elected on a fraud in florida, start a war with a lie, patriot act, get re-elected with the biggest mud-slinging campaign the country ever saw, and now, admit the use of torture ans try to legalise it, with a law that "just happen" to retroactively give civilian officials legal imunity for any war crime inquiry that may be later launched by your congress. Not to mention his foreign policy giving a huge boost for the terrorist's recrutment teams. THAT doesn't seem to me the values the united states are supposed to stand for... Besides, wasn't it one of your Founding Fathers that said "Those who give up liberty for security, deserve neither"? A lot of countries, espescially in europe, dealt with terrorism without changing their way of life. You should be able to, too. Originally by: Lord Wimbishi These remarks are not only extremely disrepectful it is also spitting in the faces of all the military people and civilians dead or dying for the very cause for freedom the world over and from all countries to keep such #&^% from ever happening again and to keep your sorry butts safe and right to use your disrespecting mouths in the first place. Put things in perspective and for the sake of those that are trying to keep the terrorism in check, be more respectful. Start applying your advice to yourself, and don't use that kind of language for anyone who (gasp) won't start wearing blinders just because it's "patriotic" to do so, ok? ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.

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