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spRAYed The Priory	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:07:00 - [1] Let me say this first: I'm not American. I'm not on anyone's side. I'm neither Religious, or very good with Politics. I'm just wondering what other people know/believe of all this. And y they do or dont. I can hear some people think "Why does it have to be brought up, and y not post this somewhere else." Now, just over a 5 months, i got my eyes on an investigation led by independend people. Doing an investigation on what really happend on 9/11. Not 4 planes crashing the Big Apple, but in fact: a nasty worm eating that same Apple from the inside. 5 Years . Today, only 13% in the world really know what happend. I cannot imagine how something HUGE and so IMPORTANT can be covered up so easely without too many people asking Questions. ò Why did the 2 Towers collapse due to 2 planes? When its prooven multiple times, they couldn't have collapsed due to a plane or the fire caused by the planes. No...there where explosives planted days before the planes hit the towers. ò Where was the Boing Aircraft that hit the Pentagon according to the US Government?. Fire melted the steal? Not possible. Burning Kerosine doesn't get that hot to melt steel. There was ONLY 1 engine left. Wich according to Rolce Royce its not an Engine of theirs used in a Boing 757. What really happend? CIA released pictures to proove it was a plance...5 frames. Not 1 frame of a plane though. All u see is the explosion. Wich wasn't of a plane. The hole in the Pentagon would have been a alot bigger. ò NORAD didn't shoot the planes even though they where off course for 2 hours? 4 Planes, of their course, for 2 hours. And then the Airforce is told its a drill and not to engage? Funny fact? Yes indeed. ò All buildings, same owner? Insurance 4tw... All building that where so called "Terrorised" but infact blown up. Building that where not even in range from the falling debris suddenly collapsed. Look up on Google, what really happend with Building 7. It was "pulled" or blown up for u and me. The owner admit it. Never, has a modern building or massive building like the Twin Towers collapsed from fire. They were simply blown up. Fireman reported it on their radio's (Wich got impounded by the CIA). Even the Documentaire of the 2 french INSIDE the Twin Towers when they fell. Reported explosions on each floor...please, take the time to look it up. Or tell someone else. People that know about this prob think i'm a retard etc etc, but u dont realise how few people think about this. This, all these facts. It drives me nuts, realising maniacs rule huge parts of the world. Killing their own People for their own Benefits. Look it up, spend some time on searching if u dont believe me. Lots of innocent people died that day, Firemen that where out in those buildings helping u and me, get blown up by their own "leaders".. 5 Years is long enough. Thanks for reading if u did. There's much more behind all this. Too much to mention in 1 thread. U should find out yourself. Or share with others that dont have a clue. Ray. ------------------------------ pArlT? Ur watching too many movies dude... ^Sig by Liu Mang
Sparrling	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:08:00 - [2] Lockelilock
Res Tance Caldari British Legion The Core Collective	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:09:00 - [3] Interesting collection of incorrect hypothesis and facts IBTL ------ I may be ambidextrous, but this just means I'm crap with both hands
spRAYed The Priory	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:13:00 - [4] Edited by: spRAYed on 11/09/2006 16:15:50 I didn't mention any names. Plus please say y these things are not true. Instead of spamming around with an Alt. U didn't read any of what i asked/posted. This concerns me. So it does others. Where do u find more people of multiple country's other then a board like EvE. Plus this isn't Politics. Nor religion. Its about something thats being put away as an attack too easy. ------------------------------ pArlT? Ur watching too many movies dude... ^Sig by Liu Mang
Ozawi Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:16:00 - [5] Just had to apologize to some co-workers. I laughed a little too loud. Swing on by where work on 54th street. We'll take the E train down to WTC site and I'll show you around. Oh, and see my link to snopes in my post in the other 9/11 thread for your Pentagon rantings. I give this a solid 8/10 just for entertainment factor though. Should we now sit around awaiting the return of Xenu? ------------------------------------------------ This sig is mine. There are others like it, but this one is mine alone. Mods keep out, or I will drop trou and sprinkle some tinkle in your Cheerios!
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:17:00 - [6] IBTL \o\ /o/ Go sell your tinfoil hats elsewhere ----------
Res Tance Caldari British Legion The Core Collective	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:21:00 - [7] Ok, then just a quick point about the properties of metal when it is superheated by 23k gallons of aircraft fuel...it warps. Please try and imagine what that does to a superstructure made of steel. I have no idea if the other comments hold water, but I am not going to look into them seeing as this is your first point and is not backed up in anyway, except by the phrase "proven many times". ------ I may be ambidextrous, but this just means I'm crap with both hands
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:35:00 - [8] Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 11/09/2006 16:38:42 In before the lock. The statements in the original post are ignorant and ill-informed. Fire from burning jet fuel weakened the steel, the steel buckeled. End of story. The fire and collapse of the two bigger buildings set some of the smaller ones on fire too. The plane crash at the Pentagon looks like hundreds of other plane crashes. FYI - the plane didn't actually hit the pentagon. It hit the ground nearby. The fireball and debris is what actually hit the building. ------------------------ The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary We all know Oveur is the true almighty - Xorus
Alejandro Zapata Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:37:00 - [9] Originally by: spRAYed Edited by: spRAYed on 11/09/2006 16:15:50 I didn't mention any names. Plus please say y these things are not true. Instead of spamming around with an Alt. U didn't read any of what i asked/posted. This concerns me. So it does others. Where do u find more people of multiple country's other then a board like EvE. Plus this isn't Politics. Nor religion. Its about something thats being put away as an attack too easy. Perhaps before you go around demanding someone disprove you, perhaps you should take the time to provide factual sources and cite these sources in your argument. Until you can even approach to accomplish the above, you remain a ranting and ignorant fool.
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy iPOD Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:46:00 - [10] Yawns.
Lardarz B'stard Amarr Out Of Exile	Posted - 2006.09.11 16:57:00 - [11] Quote: There's much more behind all this. Too much to mention in 1 thread. U should find out yourself. Or share with others that dont have a clue. I'm not American either. I have read much of the alternative theories and watched many of the documentaries with a degree of interest, but also some skepticism. While the conspiracy theories are founded in some compelling evidence,(such as the removal of the explosive sniffer dogs 2 weeks before the collapse, and the insurance situation of the builings), and a lot of what the Loose Change type documentaries suggest is actually quite credible, I would be very surprised, and shocked indeed if they were proven beyond doubt to be true. There is evidence to suggest a lot of different things, but there is also evidence to the contrary for most of it. For any given event there are a number of possible explanations, depending on what evidence you put in and what you leave out. I agree there is much that the official accounts of the attacks leave out, and I am a little uneasy with some of the claims. I do not, however, think that the global scale cover up that some of these theories suggest happened is actually possible. It would require the coordinated deceit of too many people whose reputations and governments were at stake. The conspiracy theories do raise some interesting questions, but I think on the whole they can be discounted. There will always be conspiracy theory over global events. According to some, for example, the US never landed on the moon. Join Out Of Exile Today
Alejandro Zapata Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:01:00 - [12] Edited by: Alejandro Zapata on 11/09/2006 17:03:56 But you know what? I am going to indulge you and attack your point about NORAD. First Second Third Read the timelines. At no point in this timeline were any of these planes known to be hijacked (and reported to military officials as being hijacked) for your imaginary 2 hours. And besides, nobody knew exactly what was going on when the first airplane (Flt 11) hit the WTC. Most thought it was a horrible hijacking gone wrong. Only when the second plane hit (Flt 175) did people begin to suspect that something larger was afoot.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:02:00 - [13] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/09/2006 17:05:10 Quote: Fire melted the steal? Not possible. Burning Kerosine doesn't get that hot to melt steel. Steel loses half its strength at the temperature at which kerosene burns. Quote: What really happend? CIA released pictures to proove it was a plance...5 frames. Not 1 frame of a plane though. If they had more than 5 frames, I would assume there was a conspiracy, because the only way they could have more than 5 frames is if they had footage from a video camera set up on the site. Instead, all they had was a security camera, which makes perfect sense. Quote: When its prooven multiple times, they couldn't have collapsed due to a plane or the fire caused by the planes. Actually, it has been proven many times by peer-reviewed scientific journals that the manner in which the towers collapsed fits perfectly with the plane impact, and required no other explosives. Sorry, but the conspiracy people spammed the internets with 5 years ago is still just as stupid today as it was then. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Alejandro Zapata Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:03:00 - [14] Originally by: Dark Shikari Quote: Fire melted the steal? Not possible. Burning Kerosine doesn't get that hot to melt steel. Steel loses half its strength at the temperature at which kerosene burns. Kerosene used for jet fuel isn't the same grade as the stuff this moron probably carries around in his little backpack either.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:04:00 - [15] Originally by: Alejandro Zapata Originally by: Dark Shikari Quote: Fire melted the steal? Not possible. Burning Kerosine doesn't get that hot to melt steel. Steel loses half its strength at the temperature at which kerosene burns. Kerosene used for jet fuel isn't the same grade as the stuff this moron probably carries around in his little backpack either. Yup, also correct, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:13:00 - [16] Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 11/09/2006 17:14:39 Originally by: Dark Shikari Yup, also correct, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel. from Structural Steel wiki As the critical temperature for steel is around 540¦C (give or take, depending on whose country's test standards one reads at the time), and design basis fires reach this temperature within a few minutes, structural steel requires external insulation in order to prevent the steel from absorbing enough energy to reach this temperature. First, steel expands, when heated, and once enough energy has been absorbed, it softens and loses its structural integrity from Jet Fuel wiki Maximum burning temperature: 980 ¦C ------------------------ The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary We all know Oveur is the true almighty - Xorus
Alejandro Zapata Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:19:00 - [17] Originally by: Lardarz B'stard While the conspiracy theories are founded in some compelling evidence,(such as the removal of the explosive sniffer dogs 2 weeks before the collapse, and the insurance situation of the builings Not credible at all. Bomb Sniffing Dog How could a bomb sniffing dog die at the WTC if he wasn't there? OMG Bush is magic! He transported the bomb sniffer to the WTC just before they were hit! OMG!
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:24:00 - [18] Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 11/09/2006 17:26:12 Originally by: Alejandro Zapata Originally by: Lardarz B'stard While the conspiracy theories are founded in some compelling evidence,(such as the removal of the explosive sniffer dogs 2 weeks before the collapse, and the insurance situation of the builings Not credible at all. Bomb Sniffing Dog How could a bomb sniffing dog die at the WTC if he wasn't there? OMG Bush is magic! He transported the bomb sniffer to the WTC just before they were hit! OMG! I remember seeing that PA officer crying on the news because he left the dog behind. Way to dispel the "no bomb dog" theory. ------------------------ The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary We all know Oveur is the true almighty - Xorus
Alejandro Zapata Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:26:00 - [19] spRAYed wrote: Quote: Building that where not even in range from the falling debris suddenly collapsed. Look up on Google, what really happend with Building 7. It was "pulled" or blown up for u and me. The owner admit it. Why stop now eh? Look at the photos and tesimonials. This building was severely damaged. Pictures and Testimonials
Hellraiza666 Regeneration Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:34:00 - [20] OMG TINFOIL HAT TIME
Donna Darko	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:41:00 - [21] Originally by: spRAYed Let me say this first: [...] And y they do or dont. I stopped reading right about here. OK, I lied, I stopped reading when I confirmed you use "y" instead of "why". Originally by: spRAYed I can hear some people think "Why does it have to be brought up, and y not post this somewhere else." If you really want people to read whatever it is you talk about, especially since you seem to want to talk about a pretty serious subject, have the smarts to use proper words, since you seem to know what the "y" stands for anyway. Stories.
Laocoon Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:41:00 - [22] Originally by: spRAYed ò Why did the 2 Towers collapse due to 2 planes? this has been done to death. it IS 100% possible. Originally by: spRAYed ò Where was the Boing Aircraft that hit the Pentagon according to the US Government?. this has also been done to death. you CAN see the plane. it's a bit **** up. why? BECAUSE IT PLOUGHED INTO THE GROUND. Originally by:** spRAYed ò NORAD didn't shoot the planes even though they where off course for 2 hours? NORAD doesn't watch the inside of the USA, k? It watches for EXTERNAL threats. Originally by: spRAYed ò All buildings, same owner? Insurance 4tw... since when? And finally, i find this talk very offensive. There are more important things about 9/11 than 'whodunnit'. Think what it would be like to go to work, and see a plane fly into your building, then into the *other building*. We should be considering the suffering of those poor, poor, people, not bickering about 'omg a conspiracy'. The planes flew into te buildings, and that must have been horrendous. That's all i can think about and i'm offended by the thought that you can concentrate on anything else. - Lao Veto. Corp
Ozawi Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:45:00 - [23] I'm just waiting on the tinfoil hat theory about the DeutcheBank building across the street from WTC. It took severe damage in the attack, but is still standing. It's just condemned and roped off. I'm sure that Dubya was in there planting bombs too, but they just din't blew 'er up gud 'nuff. ------------------------------------------------ This sig is mine. There are others like it, but this one is mine alone. Mods keep out, or I will drop trou and sprinkle some tinkle in your Cheerios!
spRAYed The Priory	Posted - 2006.09.11 17:56:00 - [24] Ok, plain hit the ground first? Now...Imagine how it would look like if a plane hits the ground first. Would u still see grass growing likes its a soccer field? I'm asking questions. I put in very odd things i noticed along with MANY others. How much is true about the Building that collapsed all belonged to 1 person and he made a load of money of it with insurance. Some laugh at me for thinking its wierd i wonder how this happens..I'm not holding signs with Tanks and Jesus on it saying "WAR WAR AWRARWRAAWAAAR" though. Now i'm sure ALL the things i said where not true...yeah right. U can see the damn buildings being blown up VERY easyly. EXPERTS all around the world said it on Internet. But just because the avarage MCDONNALD and BURGERKING Muppet doesn't look further then FOX NEWS doesn't believe it. Or even thinks about it. Dont get ****ed at me for being curious. ------------------------------ pArlT? Ur watching too many movies dude... ^Sig by Liu Mang
Leilani Solaris Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:01:00 - [25] I also saw a little video put together on a website of all the 9/11 bombings. The holes in the whitehouse were round and through several walls, no trace af an airplane. Missile perhaps? Or what, You're telling me they cleared up all the plane wreckage that damn fast? yeh...right. Buildings like the Twin Towers are build to not fall down in hurricanes etc and a fire made them fall down? right-o. I agree with spRAYed.
spRAYed The Priory	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:09:00 - [26] Its amazing, there's soooo many things that are not right about this whole thing. And still people have an answer that ONLY IN DISNEY LAND could have happend.. Forgive me but English is not my first Language. I always feel sorry for people that dont understand it might be a little tough. So lets carry on. I maybe didn't say the things about the plane right. The plane could have been burned yes ( lightweight matarial etc etc) but the Engine bit is still VERY VERY wrong. Any excuse for that made up yet? I hope there is.Because i'm not convinced by any of this. ------------------------------ pArlT? Ur watching too many movies dude... ^Sig by Liu Mang
Laocoon Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:10:00 - [27] Tbh there's more important things to be said than what's in this thread. So i'm gonna stop posting lest i start myself a flamewar. - Lao Veto. Corp
Alejandro Zapata Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:16:00 - [28] Originally by: Leilani Solaris I also saw a little video put together on a website of all the 9/11 bombings. The holes in the whitehouse were round and through several walls, no trace af an airplane. Missile perhaps? Or what, You're telling me they cleared up all the plane wreckage that damn fast? yeh...right. Buildings like the Twin Towers are build to not fall down in hurricanes etc and a fire made them fall down? right-o. I agree with spRAYed. White House? What are you talking about? Perhaps you should educate yourself beyond idiot and try again. Next please.
Laocoon Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:16:00 - [29] by the way, read this. It's a truly excellent analysis, with some RAEL science, not "omg you can't get into space it will never happen" sciene. (By this i mean the artcle is not based on 'science' that comes from people who have no idea what they're talking about, and simply go by what they think must be the case or go by what their-friend's-friend's-friend's-dog- apparently-told-them-so-it-must-be-true). then if you don't realise that you've been spread some fat lie by some sick ********, then I feel sorry for you. /end (really) - Lao Veto. Corp
Alejandro Zapata Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:18:00 - [30] Edited by: Alejandro Zapata on 11/09/2006 18:22:05 Originally by: spRAYed Ok, plain hit the ground first? Now...Imagine how it would look like if a plane hits the ground first. Would u still see grass growing likes its a soccer field? Its called sod jack ass. Originally by: spRAYed How much is true about the Building that collapsed all belonged to 1 person and he made a load of money of it with insurance. The building/site is leased by one man, his name is Silverstein. And he isn't making a load of money. Clicky Originally by: spRAYed Now i'm sure ALL the things i said where not true...yeah right. U can see the damn buildings being blown up VERY easyly. EXPERTS all around the world said it on Internet. But just because the avarage MCDONNALD and BURGERKING Muppet doesn't look further then FOX NEWS doesn't believe it. Or even thinks about it. And as for the Demolition theories: Demolition Theories Demolished\ spRAYed and his merry band of idiots should probably give up. You have been shown citable proof that disproves your statements (lies).

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