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Drahcir Nasom
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Posted - 2003.10.20 17:12:00 -
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Broke through six million skill points about 2 hours after DT today. Has anyone else reached this mark yet or am I the first?
Drahcir
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.20 19:14:00 -
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Well, if I had got the game at release day, and been playing beta, I would have been there too now.
Add the bug that existed early on, and I guess some exploiters are close to 7M
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Drahcir Nasom
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Posted - 2003.10.20 19:43:00 -
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FYI.
Started game the day after launch.
Never played beta
Didn't learn how to train skills for 2 days
Have never exploited anything, when I thought there was a bug in my skill points, I reported it immediately to both the GM's and the Devs and both said it was fine.
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2003.10.20 20:18:00 -
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Gratz! I'm still only in the 4m, but a buddy who started at the same time with a better initial attributes and full learning is now around 5m+
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.21 02:19:00 -
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I didn't say you exloited the bug
I expected you got it on release day, and said I would have been to brake 6M about now if I had done that too.
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Kerr AVON
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Posted - 2003.10.21 12:07:00 -
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Congrats !
I've just passed 5.7mil, so I'm chasing you down 
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.10.21 13:31:00 -
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I started about a week after release (12th May I think) and have 5,3M. If you add up all the missed hours and days I've probably lost a week or so of training along the way. Having some terrible attributes apart from willpower didn't help too much either...still not too bad all things considered.
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Xailia
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Posted - 2003.10.22 09:02:00 -
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I started in beta, got my retail copy just after release and I'm about to hit 4M... Probably because a lot of the skills I've trained haven't been skills with attributes my character has high.
Attributes make all the difference.
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jason hill
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Posted - 2003.10.22 10:14:00 -
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I have been playing since the spring and sort of neglected my skills at the beggining ( hey didnt we all? ) but now that i have got all my learning skill up to lvl5 that should make a BIG difference ...but at the moment my skills are just up to 3.5 million .its a slow process but .worth it in the long run I hope .
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2003.10.22 10:56:00 -
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Broke through six million skill points about 2 hours after DT today. Has anyone else reached this mark yet or am I the first?
Just out of interest, what are your current attributes?
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Drahcir Nasom
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Posted - 2003.10.22 23:22:00 -
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My current attributes are:-
Intelligence 18 (Analytical mind lvl 5, +3 Implant)
Perception 16 (Spatial Awareness lvl 4, +3 Implant)
Charisma 11 (Empathy lvl 4)
Willpower 14 (Iron Will lvl 5, +3 Implant)
Memory 20 (Instant Recall lvl 5, +3 Implant)
I also have Learning lvl 5.
Drahcir
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Deus
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Posted - 2003.10.23 04:44:00 -
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Intelligence 17 (Analytical mind lvl 5, +3 Implant)
Perception 18 (Spatial Awareness lvl 5, +3 Implant)
Charisma 15 (Empathy lvl 5, +3 Implant)
Willpower 17 (Iron Will lvl 5, +3 Implant)
Memory 17 (Instant Recall lvl 5, +3 Implant)
Learning lvl 5
Started on day 2
Have missed maybe 2 days worth of training.
5,029,997 Skill Points.
STK Scientific
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2003.10.23 11:07:00 -
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Nice set of implants .. are you crazy about agent missions, or rich?
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.10.23 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Miri Tirzan on 23/10/2003 12:06:37
Around 5.6 Million SP
Started the second day of retail.
Stats:
Intel.............16 (+5 Analytic, +3 implant)
Percept.........17 (+5 Spacial, +3 implant)
Charasma.....14 (+4 Empathy, +3 implant)
Will...............14 (+5 Iron Will, +3 implant)
Memory.........23 (+5 Recall, +3 implant)
Learning at 5
I optimized for learning, industrial, and drones.
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Balgore
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Posted - 2003.10.23 12:02:00 -
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Intelligence 19 (Analytical mind lvl 5, +3 Implant)
Perception 7 (Spatial Awareness lvl 4)
Charisma 13 (Empathy lvl 3, +3 Implant)
Willpower 11 (Iron Will lvl 4, +3 Implant)
Memory 20 (Instant Recall lvl 5)
I also have Learning lvl 5.
total skill points little over 5.8mil
Were it not for all the perception and willpower skills I have trained i am sure i would have a much higher over all skill point total. Started day 2, had 4 days of indicison and reconfiguration of character and lost out on the RollBack skill gains :(
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Drahcir Nasom
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Posted - 2003.10.23 13:12:00 -
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Back in June I noticed some of my skills seemed to be going up in points even though I wasn't training them. On July 7th I started recording all my skill points in a spreadsheet at DT each day, and with the exception of a few days, I've done so since. As well as noting down how my points changed, I also recorded what I had done that day. I soon noticed that doing certain things caused certain skills to train themselves. from then onwards, I concentrated on two things, one was training only skills that didn't train themselves unless I had to, and doing as much in the game as I could to make skills train themselves.
For example, I noticed early on that when I went round a region collecting a region wide buy order of minerals, by using a mixture of overdrives, nanofibers and cargo expanders to keep my ship in a max speed min volume configuration throughout the trip, visiting something like 30 stations in 25 systems, using my afterburners all the time I was in subwarp travel, I could easily earn 4000 sp on Afterburner, 3000-4000 on Hull Upgrades and 500-1000 on Mechanic. In a 24 hour period then I would typically train between 28K and 35K SP depending on what I was training, but I would "earn" a further 5K-10K from doing things.
I can't be bothered to go through my spreadsheet and add it up accurately, but I would expect tha from my current total of 6.12M SP, probably between 1.2 and 1.5M of those points have been "Earned" rather than trained.
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Stradivarious Hawke
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Posted - 2003.10.25 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Stradivarious Hawke on 25/10/2003 20:41:34
I find it interesting to underline that most of the attribute values listed here are the displayed ones and not the real ones .
I was puzzled at first because my values seemed lower but then I remembered about this .
My attributes are : (baseline/displayed /effective )
Intelligence : 7/15/14 4 analytical/implant
Perception : 10/15/14 4 spatial
Charisma : 9/16/15 3 empathy/implant
Willpower : 9/17/16 4 iron will/implant
Memory : 4/11/11 4 instant/implant
totals : 39/74/70
This makes me believe that the displayed values take into account the learning skill level, as somebody said not long ago.
Displayed = effective x [ 1+ (0.02xlearning skill level )]
Forgot to add that I have learning skill level 4 .
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.26 02:14:00 -
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Yup, it's important to notice that the displayed attributes are not correct.
I have 18/17/9/12/17 displayed, while correct is 17/16/9/12/16.
If I count on skill training time it exactly matches:
Number of points gained in 60 seconds = (correct primary + correct secondary/2) x 1.08 (learning 4)
Which also means that the description on the learning skill is wrong
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SOHAIL
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Posted - 2003.10.27 06:08:00 -
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ive been playing since beta, and start playing since the 1st day of retail, now i just crossed 4.4m and I have all my attributes to lvl 4 and no implant.
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Perrin Aybara
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Posted - 2003.10.28 02:11:00 -
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Just broke the 5M limit and proud of it :)
I was 2 weeks late after the release.. Couldt get a damn copy here in sweden :(
All learning skills lvl 4 (yah I know, I should have em at 5)
Implants on everything but memory.
The last few months I have been training shaceship comand allmost exlucevly. 17/17(displayed) perc/will helps a lot with that.
I do have 15 of the 17 scapceship command skills to atleast lvl 3, over half at lvl 4. Working on amarr BS4 atm, allready got gal BS4, atm there are only 6 ships avalible to players that I can't fly.
Cheers; Perrin
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Soren
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Posted - 2003.10.28 02:52:00 -
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Don't you have a better way to spend your time training skillz? A big cunck of your 5 mill skills is worthless considering you can only be flying 1 of those ships at a time. You'll be able to fly ships, but be worthless in them. People should specialize more >_<
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Syme
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Posted - 2003.10.28 13:22:00 -
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Just broke 4mil this morning and wanted to share my happiness
Not sure where they have all gone, except for indy 5, as I'm pretty useless at everything atm apart from hauling. Surgical Strike early on didn't help 
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Senna
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Posted - 2003.10.30 00:30:00 -
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i was told by corp mates you could only have one implant at a time. Do you mean to say you can have them all?
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sepomat
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Posted - 2003.10.30 02:42:00 -
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OMG
i have only 1.6 million Skill points.
but, six million skill points? great, very great ;)
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Syme
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Posted - 2003.10.30 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Syme on 30/10/2003 09:18:43
Just to confirm that you can have all five implants installed. This is not dependant on the level of the Cybernetics skill, which I presume will need to be at higher levels to install more complex implants.
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Herrich Quilo
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Posted - 2003.10.30 14:05:00 -
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Just to confirm that you can have all five implants installed.
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Dr Caymus
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Posted - 2003.10.31 05:50:00 -
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Mwuhaha...6,697,000 skill points as of a minute ago. Attributes are:
Intelligence 20
Perception 12
Charisma 12
Willpower 15
Memory 23
Level 5 learning skills across the board and implants across the board except for charisma.
I set this account up specifically to be an industrialist and scientist, giving heavy weight to the memory and intelligence attributes.
My training regimen began with the memory-intelligence-learning skill rotation all the way up to level 5. I then trained the other learning skills to level 5 before beginning training of all of the industry and science skills.
The Doctor should cross the seven million skill point mark in less than a week
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Stradivarious Hawke
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Posted - 2003.10.31 14:14:00 -
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Mwuhaha...6,697,000 skill points as of a minute ago. Attributes are:
Intelligence 20
Perception 12
Charisma 12
Willpower 15
Memory 23
Level 5 learning skills across the board and implants across the board except for charisma.
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Just so you know, those aren't your real values.
Baseline attribute points : 39 ( same for everybody )
level 5 learning skills across the board = 25
4 implants = 12
total = 39+25+12 = 76
Your displayed total : 20+12+12+15+23 = 82
82-76 = 6 points too much =)
I'd say that your true attributes are something like :
19 intelligence
11 perception
11 charisma
14 willpower
21 memory.
Cheers.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.10.31 16:22:00 -
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Learning adds 2% to your attributes directly rather then detracting 2% from the learning time.
The value you see is truncated.
Please re-calculate :)
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Stradivarious Hawke
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Posted - 2003.10.31 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Stradivarious Hawke on 31/10/2003 18:05:27
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Learning adds 2% to your attributes directly rather then detracting 2% from the learning time.
The value you see is truncated.
Please re-calculate :)
lol
Where do you think my numbers come from ? :D
Those I listed are his real values and then it's the learning skill that makes them increase.
Some people just don't realize that and use the displayed values to calculate the training time using the formula
skill points per minute = (primary + secondary/2)x( 1+ 0.02xlearningskilllevel ).
In fact, if you use that formula you notice that there is a difference when you use the real values and the displayed ones.
I'll make an example with a skill I'm training now.
Small projectile turret (rank 1)
Primary : willpower secondary : perception
level 2 ( 1415 ) ---> level 3 ( 8000 )
8000 - 1415 = 6585 skill points to gain.
I begin training and the time required is :
4 hours and 25 minutes
My stats are
willpower : displayed 17 effective : 16
perception : displayed 15 effective : 14
learning skill level 4
time calculated using the effective values in the above formula :
6585/[(16+7)x(1+0.08)] = 265.097 minutes = 4.42 hours = 4 hours and 25 minutes
Using the displayed values , you get :
6585/[(17+7.5)x(1+0.8)] = 249 minutes
As you can see, you get the correct result when you use the effective values.
Please, re-calculate ? 
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Paul Dubois
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Posted - 2003.11.01 01:02:00 -
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Yeah skill point total very much depends on what skills you train. If as a manufacturer/researcher you set your attributes right and only train up related skills you can gain skill points very very quickly compared to a character designed for all round use or combat.
Joined after about 2 week, and have about 4.8 million now, didnt train up my learning skill initially, if I had would probably be near 5.5 or so I'd say maybe a lil more. Stats are aimed at combat more or less, average int, high perception and willpower, low charisma and memory. Having all the implants helps of course, got 4 from mission but had to buy the memory one :-)
In terms of levels of skills I probably have higher in some ways that a lot of people with more skill points as I don't feel the need to be able to fly other races ships, tend to stick with Minmatar and projectiles, specialistion really does have its advantages, now have 8 at level 5 and pretty much all of the combat related skills (apart from some of the missile ones) at level 4.
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Dr Caymus
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Posted - 2003.11.01 05:41:00 -
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Thanks for the info Strad and Dis. I had always wondered where the extra few attribute points came from. I didn't know that the Learning skill produced an increace in attribute points rather than a reduction in training time. The training time formulas are very informative.
I've trained up about everything worthwhile in industry and science. With my attributes, ship and gunnery skills will train slowly, so I will be focusing on a single ship platform and two weapons platforms initially (while hoping for the release of more advanced industrial skills ). At least the engineering and electronics skills will grow quickly, and navigation skills should come reasonably quickly.
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Kiko
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Posted - 2003.11.02 15:07:00 -
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Jeez i have around 400k skills i got to get busy.
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2003.11.17 23:11:00 -
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Finally broke 6 million skill points today (11-17-03).
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Captain Zelnick
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Posted - 2003.11.18 05:22:00 -
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What do you people think is the "Average" ammount of skill-points players have these days?
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Agent Shield
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Posted - 2003.11.18 06:46:00 -
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What do you people think is the "Average" ammount of skill-points players have these days?
I think it is a very wide range of numbers. Even myself, I am approaching 6.5 million and I started about day 3. But on top of starting on day 3, I went early to level 4's & 5's on learning skills. I also installed implants when they came out.
I see it may be possible that someone has over 7 million now, and on the low side you are going to have folks under a million who only just started recently.
I don't think you could get an average; but if I had to guess, I would say the average is maybe 3 million; pure guess for an 'average'.
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Drahcir Nasom
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Posted - 2003.11.18 09:41:00 -
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I started this topic on 20/10 having broken 6M. I broke 7M on 13/11, so that's 24 days to train/earn 1M SP. I'm now at 7,213,421.
Drahcir
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Lucre
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Posted - 2003.11.18 12:49:00 -
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What do you people think is the "Average" ammount of skill-points players have these days?
Started in August - 2.8 million here, though my refining alt has another 400k or so. (Annoyingly I started him to get a char optimised for mem/int and then 2 weeks after I trained him up, implants came out and I've now got better mem/int atributes than he has. Ah well... <g> )
Would be fascinating to know the overall skill pt distribution though. Plus how many new players we're getting in at the bottom and how many veterans are quitting at the top.
Also to know what they'll do when they do the big marketing push and do (hopefully) start bringing in lots of new players. Whether they'll nerf or sideline existing chars (they'd better not!) or give new starters something of a leg up e.g. better starting skills. Or just leave things as they are.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2003.12.13 01:37:00 -
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Broke through six million skill points about 2 hours after DT today. Has anyone else reached this mark yet or am I the first?
Drahcir
LOL someone has no fulltime job nor school
I have been on since day one and due to work only have roughly 4.5
:(
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2003.12.13 05:01:00 -
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Hmm, let's see...I have THREE jobs, started almost a month after release, and I've got 7.1 mil skill points now.
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.12.14 02:30:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Broke through six million skill points about 2 hours after DT today. Has anyone else reached this mark yet or am I the first?
Drahcir
LOL someone has no fulltime job nor school
I have been on since day one and due to work only have roughly 4.5
:(
I have a full time job and finishing up a Masters Program and have 7.8 Million SP.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Lindblom Drigsby
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Posted - 2003.12.14 02:48:00 -
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Sitting at 7.2 Million
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2003.12.14 10:21:00 -
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I go the game the first week of release in the UK and currently have 5.2mill skill points.
Could have had a lot more if i got implants earlier.
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Veral
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Posted - 2003.12.15 03:38:00 -
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College Students. Hard Workers. People who work hard, yet still find time to play games. I envy you, I truly do. I'm almost out of Highschool and will be moving onto college next year. I guess the majoriy of participants here are in college, am I correct?
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2003.12.18 00:55:00 -
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I think i have 3.5m :/ Started months after retail. August something. My friend has 7.5m+...:o
My attributes are 16/14/7/14/18 ( all at level 4 except charisma.) implants for intel/mem/will, hopefully i will get one for my perception to go to 17 :D
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2003.12.18 08:34:00 -
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6'181'413
Atributs are 17/17/17/16/16
And I started a whole month after releas, btw i will never get the time back what loos with an 12 atribut that u win with an 20, when not only train in a area that gots thsi a s a primary atribut.
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