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Mitch Taylor
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.14 10:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Marko Debreault
If RISE survives in Cloud Ring I don't doubt that we will have done them a huge service by making them tougher. If they don't survive there, well they probably won't be happy with the results, but by keeping things in perspective they will hopefully have a good time along the way. One good way to do this will be to avoid calling their enemies names on the forums. Comparing their pvp abilities to everyday household objects that aren't scary works for me - try doing that instead.
Xelas experienced Outbreak and Celes during July and August in Fountain.
I have to say that Marko has hit the nail on the head. My corporation joined Xelas to help them clean core out, at the time the hostiles were random FA corps. When we arrived we discovered that the only real pvp action we would get was ganks, this quickly made us a bit miserable. So rather than up sticks and leave we decided to get a little bigger and make a few iskies.
Once Outbreak joined Celes in Fountain the fun really started. They are formidible opponents alone, once they stood together it was not uncommmon for them to field approx 60-70 in a fleet. Any 0.0 alliance will agree that those sort of numbers with good skills & fittings will alarm anyone!
The fighting was hard going but fun, the chat in local was always pleasant, and although there is always one noob on either side that decided he couldnt resist a little smack, all in all it was quite honerable.
My point is however. The outbreak/celes invasion broke Xelas. Half of our members left to form another alliance (the hoard). So I was one of the only people with any experience of EVE left in leadership. I began to rebuild. Whilst we are not quite there yet, outbreak has made me look long and hard at what I am trying to achieve here. Over time we had forgotten what EVE is all about. We had forgotten about the thrill of the fight. And most of all we had forgotten about unity. Which is what an alliance is all about.
A meaningful attack from good hostiles is the best way to test your alliance. I have actions from the event which I intend to execute on, this in turn will indeed make us stronger.
Long live Xelas, Good luck Rise.
Thank you Outbreak and Celes.
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Pilgrippa
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.14 12:20:00 -
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I think RISE pilots need to fit more T2 stuff on their ships. Seriously guys, you have the complex right there. All I find are ships fitted with the remnants of Serpentis Rear Admiral spawns !
We have an addiction to feed here people!
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superscarface
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.14 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: superscarface on 14/09/2006 13:06:04
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Originally by: Marko Debreault
If RISE survives in Cloud Ring I don't doubt that we will have done them a huge service by making them tougher. If they don't survive there, well they probably won't be happy with the results, but by keeping things in perspective they will hopefully have a good time along the way. One good way to do this will be to avoid calling their enemies names on the forums. Comparing their pvp abilities to everyday household objects that aren't scary works for me - try doing that instead.
Xelas experienced Outbreak and Celes during July and August in Fountain.
I have to say that Marko has hit the nail on the head. My corporation joined Xelas to help them clean core out, at the time the hostiles were random FA corps. When we arrived we discovered that the only real pvp action we would get was ganks, this quickly made us a bit miserable. So rather than up sticks and leave we decided to get a little bigger and make a few iskies.
Once Outbreak joined Celes in Fountain the fun really started. They are formidible opponents alone, once they stood together it was not uncommmon for them to field approx 60-70 in a fleet. Any 0.0 alliance will agree that those sort of numbers with good skills & fittings will alarm anyone!
The fighting was hard going but fun, the chat in local was always pleasant, and although there is always one noob on either side that decided he couldnt resist a little smack, all in all it was quite honerable.
My point is however. The outbreak/celes invasion broke Xelas. Half of our members left to form another alliance (the hoard). So I was one of the only people with any experience of EVE left in leadership. I began to rebuild. Whilst we are not quite there yet, outbreak has made me look long and hard at what I am trying to achieve here. Over time we had forgotten what EVE is all about. We had forgotten about the thrill of the fight. And most of all we had forgotten about unity. Which is what an alliance is all about.
A meaningful attack from good hostiles is the best way to test your alliance. I have actions from the event which I intend to execute on, this in turn will indeed make us stronger.
Long live Xelas, Good luck Rise.
Thank you Outbreak and Celes.
Great post Mitch. Likewise, best of luck. *sheds tear* We achieved something constructive 
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Garramon
Gallente
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.14 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Garramon on 14/09/2006 13:14:21
EDIT: I just found out some information I was not privy to before. Irregardless, this poitn will still stand:
All this has done is weaken the northern edge of BoB space, just what they love to see /me looks at Querious.
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JackCo
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Posted - 2006.09.14 15:12:00 -
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Toxin feels the need to kill stuff and RISE happens to be arround the corner. RISE is in the process of building up and seems a suitable "easy" target. Toxins want fighting fun and know they will have it in OR/CR.
Toxin does feel the need to state that they have been "offended" by 1, maybe 2 RISE members - ofc each RISE member is 1 too many imho - and therefor also deciding to take it out on RISE. I recon that single Navy Raven u seen had a major contribution there as well. Or was it a forum post somewhere that made ur decision on where to move next final?
I think/hope it's safe to say - having seen the intelligent fighting they show in the field - it where the better arguments that made em come our way.
Toxin are battle hardning us up. Well they might give themselves credit here indeed, but this would neglect RISE (FA/NRD) rich history in OR/FA. Stating that our war machine "has the cohesion of melting butter" is a way to easy comment to make.
A group of veterans that can come and go @ any time they please with no real assets to protect have an very big advantage over a whole lotta ppl (read alliances) in this game.
Toxin are fighters i respect, but i would like that same piece of respect in return.
Jack
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.14 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Turkantho on 14/09/2006 16:13:27
Originally by: Nyack
However during our forming YouWhat had lost Cloud Ring to goons and D2 and assorted neighbours were in the middle of the struggle to take it back. RISE helped out to fight with what we thought was our brothers in YouWhat. The d2 war machine finally liberated Cloud Ring.
not quite right, Youwhat never held Cloud Ring. D2 was claiming Cloud Ring, STV and FSP left, Goons attacked CR and took over xzh station, D2 rolls in fights start, talks with STV and FSP how this should go on, a few days later youwhat was created, first d2(+friends) and youwhat fight together, after a week or so youwhat left CR, D2 and friends continue the fight, RISE helps by attacking goons in syndicate, and later in CR, final weeks d2 spams something around 40 L POS sov should change following weekend, remidial makes his post about rise of goons on that "final weekend", BoB enters the scene and says goons should be wiped from eve, weekend comes, goons in CR loose, D2 has the station. Region will be given to RISE
And yes what Quarantine said is correct I warned RISE through a friend in RISE that youwhat will attack them ~2weeks before it happend, I hoped my warning was taken serious because why should I warn someone if nothing is going on ? heck even weeks before that in the first week that RISE held CR I told him that youwhat will stirr up trouble.
edit some spelling errors
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grizouh
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.09.14 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Turkantho
Edited by: Turkantho on 14/09/2006 16:13:27
after a week or so youwhat left CR, D2 and friends continue the fight,
sorry turk,
your version is much more correct than the other one but i have to disagree on -y- leaving after "a week or so".
you what were there all the time while the fight against the goons in xzh continued.
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.14 17:39:00 -
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maybe, but i didn't noticed them at all, but Mumm who left yw for D2 after CR...
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Ikarushka
A.O.U. Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.14 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ikarushka on 14/09/2006 18:16:27
Just as a thought... if YouWhat wanted to backstab Rise they could have done it in a much better way; you gotta give them credit for removing their assets for a week and starting from that (if that's indeed the case). And while Rise will feel that they were betrayed YouWhat did more to make the fight fair than most of the people in eve history... just my $.02
edit: spelling*
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Tanya Kovacs
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.14 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Turkantho
Edited by: Turkantho on 14/09/2006 16:13:27
after a week or so youwhat left CR, D2 and friends continue the fight
As far as I know you I guess it isn't your first intention to place a flamebait, but this statement is a slap in the face of every single (Ex-)YouWhat-Pilot who really "enjoyed" the boring weeks in XZH sitting at the POSes, some engagements here and there, the fleetfights and in the last days shooting POSes and station and so on.  I know you "don't like" (...) YouWhat but please play fair. Thanks alot.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.14 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ikarushka
if YouWhat wanted to backstab Rise they could have done it in a much better way; you gotta give them credit for removing their assets for a week and starting from that (if that's indeed the case).
They left 2 large POSes in our home system XZH-4X (I don't know if they even removed any POSes at all in other systems) and that's the ones they are basing all their attacks out of now. So in fact they have an easier and less fair head start than "most people in eve history" (to use your words). But they can sure sell it well to gullible people.
not speaking for my alliance.
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.14 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Turkantho on 14/09/2006 21:10:01
no ofc course it wasn't intended as a flamebait, this is what happend in CR from my point of view and i only took notice from youwhat at the beginning of the campaign and at the end not in the middle of it.
and in all of youwhat there are at most 5-6 people I really "dislike" and some I hold in high regards. The problem, again from my point of view, is that some of the people I dislike are your "leaders".
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grizouh
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.09.14 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Turkantho
maybe, but i didn't noticed them at all, but Mumm who left yw for D2 after CR...
okay, than let me get this more straight and less diplomatic ^^
so you did not notice them at all except mumm who was still in stv at that time, and, surprise surprise, is in d2 now?
maybe you did not notice the other guys because you very rarely were in the main gang?
how can i judge this? because i was there almost every evening (daytime too at the weekends) till late night and did the most invites after e-r left (i think that was after the first week, but could have been the second ^^) except for the last weekend where we had a long time planned rl meeting from stv.
and yes, mumm was the main fc in xzh after e-r left but he was still in stv at that time so it does not count for d2 but -y-.
_all_ operations of the main gang started at 7 17 which was/is a stv pos.
i have seen you several times in local, yes, but as mentioned above, almost never in the main gang where everybody else was in.
donŠt tell me about cap gangs now, i cynoed most of them into xzh.
so please stop stating -y- left after the first week, thank you turk.
i am not pretending all/most of -y- were there all of the time, i had enough argues intern with people who got bored about this bloody pos wars and which didnŠt want to come to xzh anymore, but at least there were always a couple of stv-lers around. also as the majority of the gang was hardly never d2, it always have been a good mixture from all northern friendly entities (i loved to set the standings for "our" pos^^).
before you answer again you may ask mumm.
this statement is not stv-biased as i left them couple of weeks ago, it is simply what i experienced in xzh.
to the op:
sov wasnŠt lost because stv "was not even possible" to maintain their own posses, sov was lost as "we" left d2 and had the most active claiming posses but no alliance at that time (which actually was "our" fault, yes).
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.14 22:12:00 -
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ohh , the drama 
eve-0 regained a lot more quality of reading in the last weeks
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Galdoth
BIG Advanced Assault
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.15 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kujin
ohh , the drama
eve-0 regained a lot more quality of reading in the last weeks
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Joder
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.15 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Galdoth
Originally by: Kujin
ohh , the drama
eve-0 regained a lot more quality of reading in the last weeks
Signed.
Nothing better than reading this stuff while you are supposed to be working
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.16 10:17:00 -
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yep what i was trying to achieve abit of drama.. recently eve-o been abit booring think whole eve is getting boring due to lack of real content realesed for ages.. bugs, asian cluster, german client, cues.. way to go ccp..
tried to do a less bias report as possible what has been going down in CR recently to have you guys something to read.. the amount of non flames proves i wasnt that far of apart from a few details here and there.. remember it is how view it, it might not be correct on all accounts i cant after all be everywhere 23/7 =)
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