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Lord Infy
Amarr
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.14 09:55:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Infy on 14/09/2006 09:55:49
I've engaged both an enyo and an ishkur 1on1 on me Retribution.
Yes, I did not have a srambler fitted, they both rather died than warped out.
Poor ishkur had t2 exp drones tho. Bad choice on me 80% exp armor resistance.
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Hoshi Masurao
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Posted - 2006.09.14 10:13:00 -
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Silly Ishkur pilot. Shouldn't take out drones that only do a naturally high resistance damage type. If you've got the choice, but have to take one type, always take Kin/Therm.
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OhMyGodess
Caldari
Xenobytes
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.14 10:16:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: AaronP
So.. whats the ULTIMATE assault frigate?
i think it's someone between gallente and minmatar ones (harpy not bad too) amarr afs just suck..
enyo with rails good for support and with blasters - taranis better rly. ishkur have best dps with drones and blasters.. but this things too slow enyo/thorax ishkur/vexor - second counterparts are batter in all aspects exept enyo with rails.
jaguar and wolf on the other side - is pretty damn good for AF
p.s. but again, until they don't get 4th bonus they are destined to be noobhunters PvE friends in 0.0 rly. (Ishkur best in this) 
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.09.14 10:28:00 -
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Retri is the king of frigates.
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VeNT
Minmatar
Freelancer Union
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Posted - 2006.09.14 11:03:00 -
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Jag is good all round, wolfs got more damage output but doesn't have the options that the jag does.
love my jag, only ship thats got me out of it is my sleip.
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zwerg
Caldari
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2006.09.14 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku
Retri is the king of frigates.
Edit: Story:
Yesterday i killed a well skilled pilots retribution with my rifter [ PvP ] - Arty, so king? well thats only one thing that i killed it in that case, maybe wrong fitting.
But: Retribution is useless as Solo Ship [ no point ]
Retribution isnt fast enough to get in range for pulses while fitting a scrambler/webber [ no point ]
The only point it gets is in Gang Op's, [ one point ]
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I prefer the Jagabond, just because noone beat it when i flown it to do solo piracy/pvp.
Why:
Fast, can tank, Damage Output is great, Can choose Damage,
when right flown you got the I-Win [youCan'tHitMe] Buttom.
Otherwize of course every Assault Frigate is good in its way.
so clear answer to ya question m8:
THERE IS NOT A PERFECT UBER WTFPWNMOBILE AF
greetings zwerg
Save the whales!!! Harpoon some Amarrians!!!!
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Jinn Gennosuke
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Posted - 2006.09.14 11:38:00 -
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Quote:
THERE IS NOT A PERFECT UBER WTFPWNMOBILE AF
Except for the Jagabond
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MrRookie
Caldari
Dark and Light inc.
D-L
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Posted - 2006.09.14 11:43:00 -
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I like the retribution, but for pvp you really need a mate along for tackling.
It's potentially the highest dps AF or you could go with the best tank
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zwerg
Caldari
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2006.09.14 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jinn Gennosuke
Quote:
THERE IS NOT A PERFECT UBER WTFPWNMOBILE AF
Except for the Jagabond
Jagabond can be beaten too of course:
Take a 150mm Harpy with a decent tank and good skills or
a Artillary Claw and say byebye miss wannabe vagabond.
Well it all depends on fitting as the most peeps know.
Save the whales!!! Harpoon some Amarrians!!!!
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Ysolde Xen
Minmatar
Liberal Trading Co
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2006.09.14 14:06:00 -
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Jaguar, Ishkur then Retribution in my experience. Jaguar because it can do anything and everything with only minor setup shanges, Ishkur because it's very well balanced and Retri because if someone else can keep 'em scrammed, you will just annihilate them with barely a scratch to your paintwork.
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OhMyGodess
Caldari
Xenobytes
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.14 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ysolde Xen
Retri because if someone else can keep 'em scrammed, you will just annihilate them with barely a scratch to your paintwork.
enyo will do that better/more dps 
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Electric Cucumber
Amarr
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.14 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: OhMyGodess
Originally by: Ysolde Xen
Retri because if someone else can keep 'em scrammed, you will just annihilate them with barely a scratch to your paintwork.
enyo will do that better/more dps
Not really.
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Hoshi Masurao
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Posted - 2006.09.14 15:34:00 -
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Ok, so after reading so many people rave about the Jaguar, I went on the ship fittings post and read up.
People there don't seem to be overly impressed with it, complaining about Sig radius with extenders and lack of DPS.
What are you guys fitting that makes it so OMGWTFUb3r?
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fisheN
Caldari
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.14 15:52:00 -
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My blaster harpy has good DPS and good resist, its doesn't take alot of good skills to fly it.
HIGH: 4x light ion blaster II
MED: 1x web 1x shield hardener (active) 1x cap recharge 1x small shield expander t2
LOW: 2x pdu
// fisheN
am i a rookie? :S |
Hoshi Masurao
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Posted - 2006.09.14 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: fisheN
My blaster harpy has good DPS and good resist, its doesn't take alot of good skills to fly it.
HIGH: 4x light ion blaster II
MED: 1x web 1x shield hardener (active) 1x cap recharge 1x small shield expander t2
LOW: 2x pdu
// fisheN
Ok, so when they realise you can't break 300ms, and that you've got blasters fitted, you'll get 20km scrammed, and never catch them to web them. Blaster setups require speed to be anywhere near effective.
I'm pretty sure you'd get pwnt by almost any other "standard" AF setup.
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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.09.14 16:03:00 -
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Wolf or Jag I would say.
I like the retri too it can't survive at all against the wolf or jag just due to their resists. However, I can sleep through crushing an Ishkur or Enyo in most situations it it.
Fear is the mind-killer. |
Flax Volcanus
Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability
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Posted - 2006.09.14 16:58:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Hoshi Masurao
Ok, so after reading so many people rave about the Jaguar, I went on the ship fittings post and read up.
People there don't seem to be overly impressed with it, complaining about Sig radius with extenders and lack of DPS.
What are you guys fitting that makes it so OMGWTFUb3r?
Yeah, can you post a setup? I do better solo with my Wolf than I did with the Jag. |
LordSlay Them
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:01:00 -
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I fly Gal AF's and must say they are a beut. Jagabonds are extremely nice and are the only ones i would have second thoughts about engaging in a 1v1 with.
Although i will never forget during the NFC war when i flew my enyo into a ferox, jag, wolf, killed the jag got the wolf in structure and warped off..poor guys just didn't know what a enyo with t2 neutrons could do....
There is no best AF, but for solo jag would be best bet imo, gang would be something USEFUL to the gang, hence 3 med slots, which would be an ishy, so then its not just you putting 1 point on the enemy, its you putting one point webbing and pounding his ass into pulp.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: LordSlay Them
There is no best AF, but for solo jag would be best bet imo, gang would be something USEFUL to the gang, hence 3 med slots, which would be an ishy, so then its not just you putting 1 point on the enemy, its you putting one point webbing and pounding his ass into pulp.
a pulse vengeance can do that aswell. pulses + conflags in a ship that only needs an energised thermal membrane to reach over 60% overall resistances = hard nut to ***** and some heavy firepower. Need more range? scorch helps with that.
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:28:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Grimpak
a pulse vengeance can do that aswell. pulses + conflags in a ship that only needs an energised thermal membrane to reach over 60% overall resistances = hard nut to ***** and some heavy firepower. Need more range? scorch helps with that.
I have a love-hate relationship with my Vengeance at the moment, though I'm surprised to see two votes for it as (close to) best AF.
I think I just haven't found that "right" setup for it yet. I keep bouncing between two, and swapping an MWD in and out, balancing the tank/gank... still don't feel as safe as I do in my Ishkur. 
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:30:00 -
[51]
Originally by: AaronP
Ok, lets have it.
What is THE best Assault frigate out there, whos got the best DPS whilst being able to tank enough damage. Whats the best when it comes to solo flying, whats the best when it comes to small gang warfare?
So.. whats the ULTIMATE assault frigate?
A Harpy with a Gistii small a-type would be insanely uber with a full HG crystal set, and some faction hardeners.
Ofcourse, even the best Afs will get rocked by a well setup cruiser.
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus
I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy
Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath
For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg |
Ginaz
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:32:00 -
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PvE: Retribution, Harpy, Enyo
PvP: Jaguar, Ishkur
Video: 'Behind enemy lines'
Queen of the Amazones |
Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Cheers Restaurant and Bar
Nova Republic
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:34:00 -
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Evil Ishkur:
3x Neutron IIs, Nosferatu
MWD, Web, Drone Nav Link
MAPC, 2x MagStab II (might be running up against CPU here)
Drones: 5x EV-300
Those EV drones erase more cap than 2 1/2 Small Diminishing. With the drone nav link they fly close to 6000 m/s. Their range is 5000m. You can keep a couple Hobs in the leftover drone space and use them to help finish him off when you got the target on your own Nosf.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: Grimpak
a pulse vengeance can do that aswell. pulses + conflags in a ship that only needs an energised thermal membrane to reach over 60% overall resistances = hard nut to ***** and some heavy firepower. Need more range? scorch helps with that.
I have a love-hate relationship with my Vengeance at the moment, though I'm surprised to see two votes for it as (close to) best AF.
I think I just haven't found that "right" setup for it yet. I keep bouncing between two, and swapping an MWD in and out, balancing the tank/gank... still don't feel as safe as I do in my Ishkur.
I try to fit a tank with mwd. true the cap won't hold with everything on, but hey, the mwd is just there to approach. I also fit a 20km'er wich can be very usefull if used correctly.
oh btw, with my skills, the pulses have a dmg mod of 6.5x. pretty powerfull, specially with conflags that can hit arround for 300 wreckings and an avg of 50 to 80dmg per shot.
the ship can take a pounding. I had a run in with a javelin torp raven 2 days ago, and even with unleashing a handfull of T2 warriors (ok the vengeance has a 80% resist to expl but still, they hurt) I just needed to start popping the warriors so that he wouldn't hurt the tank.
since then I've prefered the ship for heavy tackling duty simply because it doesn't rely on a volatile form of firepower (drones), in wich the ishkur relies.
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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