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Wallace Trucker
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:58:35 -
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Anyone who uses the excuse that he is just "Role Playing" is just coping out. These are sad, sad people who have failed at life and are attempting to succeed in a game. Every time I see the word "CODE" I can't help but chuckle whether in game or in the forums. The whole thing has just turned into a silly joke.
What you do in game reflects on who you are in RL. I assume that each character in eve is control by a real person. But some real people do not have any morals, hence you end up with a group of these people who have joined together in an attempt to corrupt the game and the players who do have morals...well because they are jealous of our success in and out of the game.
Don't stop your activities on account of me, I do enjoy the chuckles.
Think I'll role play Nixon with one of those realistic mask, and go rob a bank. "Your honor it wasn't me that robbed that bank it was Richard Nixon". |
Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:58:43 -
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Another thread calling out CODE on their bad behavior, and another round of responses that ignore those criticisms. What a shock!!
Please do explain to me how the following is part of roleplay:
- loyalanon telling people to "cry moar" and "nice tears" when they say something as simple as "please stop spamming local".
- John E Normus telling a player to go biomass himself when he asks what they suggest he do instead of ECM jamming
- BingBang Boom admitting that the response to a player anti-tanking their ship is to "publically humiliate" them on the minerbumping.com forums
- James 315 defending Ero1 for his bonus room antics
How is it that you guys can delude yourselves time and time again that "tear harvesting" is one of the most major motivations of CODE? How can you not realize that the definiton of tear harvesting is "attempting to anger a player in RL for the sake of creating a negative reacton"? How can you call that roleplay? Worse yet, why do you act surprised when players think you are bad people for doing that?
I'm just trying to understand is all. Are you guys actually this delusional, or is it just simple tribalism - blindly defend your own kind even when you know you are wrong.
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Azov Rassau
Neo CONCORD
137
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:59:47 -
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Mag's wrote:Even us low sec pirates receive them from the 'good guys'.
Strange thing is, I've never had one from a 'bad guy'. Hmmm.
I have to agree with that, especially the strange usage of this "good/bad guy" expression. I had received some heavy insulting hatemail from one of those "good guys" in Lowsec just because I had killed his 'peaceful' ratting ship with my Skiff. Meanwhile, I was about to send him a 'o7 gf' mail with some cool tips about how he could pay attention while in Lowsec (Local, D-scan, Scouting etcGǪ which, if you think about it, are also valid for Highsec) Who's the bad guy now? Lol.
Educative Skiff Piracy results in heavy tears and hatemails for some reason.
Anybody who contributes to EVE by creating fun, player-generated and emergent content is a 'good guy' in the bigger picture of EVE sandbox. Just look at this. That's freaking 135 Velators man! I say kudos to these good guys. 
No AFKing. Safety First. Use D-Scan, Check Local. Be Alert.
www.GankerJamming.com
Need your stuff moved? Join channel [HC] Haulers Hub or make a cool private contract to Red Frog Freight!
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:07:09 -
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I want to at least thank the New Order supporters who deep down see CODE for what they are. There are a handful or two of New Order supporters that don't join CODE itself because they have no interest in flying with those kinds of individuals. They will here and there remark on how they don't agree with the tear harvesting and act like all-around good individuals when it comes to treatment of the person behind the keyboard. You guys know who you are, I won't name you. |
Velicitia
XS Tech
2680
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:32:05 -
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Wallace Trucker wrote:
What you do in game reflects on who you are in RL.
Funny ... because in RL I'm more a dove (i.e. against warmongering), whereas in EVE I tend to enjoy shooting people and getting shot at...
Now if only I was better at the whole "shooting at people" thing, so my KB wasn't so awful 
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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Gorila Vengaza
The Conference Elite
CODE.
111
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:33:32 -
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Wallace Trucker wrote:Anyone who uses the excuse that he is just "Role Playing" is just coping out. These are sad, sad people who have failed at life and are attempting to succeed in a game. Every time I see the word "CODE" I can't help but chuckle whether in game or in the forums. The whole thing has just turned into a silly joke.
What you do in game reflects on who you are in RL. I assume that each character in eve is control by a real person. But some real people do not have any morals, hence you end up with a group of these people who have joined together in an attempt to corrupt the game and the players who do have morals...well because they are jealous of our success in and out of the game.
Don't stop your activities on account of me, I do enjoy the chuckles.
Think I'll role play Nixon with one of those realistic mask, and go rob a bank. "Your honor it wasn't me that robbed that bank it was Richard Nixon".
ItGÇÖs ppl like you who worry me.
Eve is a game , it ISN'T Real life and if you think it is you need professional Help. There are people who do things in a game they would never do in real life. Before I joined AG I was out deccing mining corps for ransom IN GAME. Who I hold someone ransom in real life? Hell no.
You remind me of the ganking is bullying idiots, they believed if you ganked ( A valid GAME mechanic) you must be a bully in RL and you shouldnGÇÖt be around children. That idea was so nuts I war decced them. When they asked why I said GÇ£because I felt BulliedGÇ¥. Those idiots didn't get it.
ItGÇÖs a GAME that allows you to have morals or not. Hopefully youGÇÖre intelligent enough to understand that.
Scott I have this to say, You said you have never seen the RL death threats members of Code get. IGÇÖll make a suggestion, Talk to CODE like I did. Find out they are people playing a GAME just like you. You want to play the moral hero, they donGÇÖt. I learned not everyone likes to play a hero when my son was about 7. He insisted on getting a lightsaber used by the SITH. HeGÇÖs 23 now and an honor student working on his masters to be a TEACHER. HeGÇÖs not out murdering people because I let him play GTA,resident evil and play with a red lightsaber.
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Wallace Trucker
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:45:08 -
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ItGÇÖs ppl like you who worry me.
Eve is a game , it ISN'T Real life and if you think it is you need professional Help. There are people who do things in a game they would never do in real life. Before I joined AG I was out deccing mining corps for ransom IN GAME. WouId I hold someone ransom in real life? Hell no.
You remind me of the "ganking is bullying" idiots, they believed if you ganked ( A valid GAME mechanic) you must be a bully in RL and you shouldnGÇÖt be around children. That idea was so nuts I war decced them. When they asked why I said GÇ£because I felt BulliedGÇ¥. They didn't get it.
ItGÇÖs a GAME that allows you to have morals or not. Hopefully youGÇÖre intelligent enough to understand that.
Scott I have this to say, You said you have never seen the RL death threats members of Code get. IGÇÖll make a suggestion, Talk to CODE like I did. Find out they are people playing a GAME just like you. You want to play the moral hero, they donGÇÖt. I learned not everyone likes to play a hero when my son was about 7. He insisted on getting a lightsaber used by the SITH. HeGÇÖs 23 now and an honor student working on his masters to be a TEACHER. HeGÇÖs not out murdering people because I let him play GTA,resident evil and play with a red lightsaber.
I do blame Resident Evil for his love of zombies tho.....[/quote]
No need to worry about me I'm fine. As for you I'm not so sure. If you are a real human being with morals but allow a character in a game control your actions. And then cop out with "oh it's just a game" or "I'm role playing" then your morals are weak. If you control it then it is you. Probably to young to remember the twinky defense but I kind of applies. |
Gorila Vengaza
The Conference Elite
CODE.
111
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:00:56 -
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[/quote]No need to worry about me I'm fine. As for you I'm not so sure. If you are a real human being with morals but allow a character in a game control your actions. And then cop out with "oh it's just a game" or "I'm role playing" then your morals are weak. If you control it then it is you. Probably to young to remember the twinky defense but I kind of applies.[/quote]
The Twinky Defense? When the guy that shot Harvey Milk claimed he had eaten too much sugar and it made him shoot Milk and that mayor? That case? Yeah, that was real life and NOT a GAME.
Sad you canGÇÖt see the difference. |
Nomis Alexander
Haldskel Corporation
Dark.Moon Rising
25
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:14:36 -
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Scott Bacon wrote:
Ultimately, it should be no surprise that some people continue to question the real life character of CODE members and affiliates. It is the bed they have made for themselves. They blame the AG community for not being able to tell the difference between role play and real life when it is they who bare much of the blame for making it so incredibly difficult to tell in the first place. .
OP complains about people crossing over from RP and the game to real life, then makes negative comments about peoples' RL characters. Priceless.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2101
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:42:28 -
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Wallace Trucker wrote:No need to worry about me I'm fine. As for you I'm not so sure. If you are a real human being with morals but allow a character in a game control your actions. And then cop out with "oh it's just a game" or "I'm role playing" then your morals are weak. If you control it then it is you. Probably to young to remember the twinky defense but I kind of applies.
So you're saying that if an actor lands a role in a movie as a terrorist it's a reflection of their RL morals? After all, we're just actors in an interactive show that runs 23.5/7.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Pi Show
Forsaken Security Force
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:28:03 -
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Scott Bacon wrote: trample on the fun of others.
Is that not the villain's doctrine? |
Cannibal Kane
Blood Raiders Elite
4608
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:44:31 -
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Wallace Trucker wrote: ....inane prattle...
So I guess you don't play games were you have to shoot people like FPS.
Funny enough I was watching an episode of top gear catching up on some seasons. In one show they had Alice Cooper in it.
And what he said suddenly made perfect sense. You guys are the ninnies from those years when Rock started. This is bad for you, it promotes sex and violence and some more inane dribble.
While the witches of that time went on like you are, you would only miss meeting some of the nicest people you could meet because you are to easily swayed by the your own glaring hatred. Funny enough Alice and the crew still send them gift every year just to be nice.
Congrats, you have become the ninnies of yester year.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
358
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:00:34 -
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Thomas Mayaki wrote:
'You can be essentially 100% safe mining or hauling in highsec by doing only a handful of things'
The ganker can choose when,where and what to gank. If the ganker does not bring the correct amount of firepower in order to remove the target I suggest they have the same defeatest attitude as you. The one thing the New Order brings to the table is their lack of fear to fail, they can and have thrown appropriate ships at a '100% safe targets'.
The gank target has complete control over what ships they fly, where and what they are carrying/fit with. If the target pays attention they can be safely away from the gankers before they even see them, and can use a ship and fitting that makes it not economically viable to attack. Sure, you can always lose a ship in this game - that is by design by the way - but if you are not a profitable target, the chances of being ganked are much, much less. Just look how few Skiffs and DST were ganked in Highsec last month. And in the unlikely even you do lose a ship, the mantra is suppose to be don't fly something you can't afford to lose. Dust yourself off and be more careful.
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
'the game mechanics favour the gankers'
Just stating the fact not complaining. I also think you are getting confused between the so called anti-gankers and the people that get ganked. I have every sympathy for players who have to endure hours of bumping in order to force them to log off if that is what you mean by playing the game.
Your assertion thank the mechanics favour "the other guy" is your opinion and comes from your defeatist attitude. There are many highsec players how have looked at how gankers use the current mechanics and have adapted their game play so they are nearly 100% safe. These players are "playing Eve". Then there are those that come to the forums complaining that they cannot be 100% safe and therefore the game is broken and they won't even try to protect thier assets. These players are not "playing Eve".
Bumping is emergent gameplay resulting from the physics engine and has been explicitly ruled as a valid game mechanic to use against your opponent. If you have a problem with it you can petition CCP to change it but they have been unusually clear on the issue so I would suggest you adapt your game play to minimize the chance of a bumper grabbing you - a scout/webbing escort is the best. Personally, I reserve my sympathy for those who are actually trying to defend themselves, not players who overload a freighter and send it AFK through a ganker hotspot because they would rather be watching television on another screen.
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect
477
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Posted - 2015.01.03 20:45:34 -
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I don't understand this point of making threads. When someone does something I don't like I shoot them. Then I ask myself are they still doing it? If yes, keep shooting. What's the problem?
Hades Effect
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1074
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Posted - 2015.01.03 21:38:21 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:I don't understand this point of making threads. When someone does something I don't like I shoot them. Then I ask myself are they still doing it? If yes, keep shooting. What's the problem?
You, sir, are genius.
*gives him a cookie*
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite
CODE.
239
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Posted - 2015.01.03 21:47:53 -
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Cool opinions bro.
To bad they are wrong and saying everyone one should have e honor and is doesnt deserve your wall of tears.
Please edit to say. Tldr I still think ganking is real life bullying and ccp must change their mechanics because I am un happy with how some people choose to play their game and the big bad meanies might get me.
Thanks
A True Champion of High Security Space
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
430
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Posted - 2015.01.04 00:51:29 -
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personally the only "toxic" behavior i've seen in AG is from code alts. Vast majority of people in AG just want to enjoy the game in peace...not looking for conflict. |
Leto Thule
Obsidian Cadre
1874
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Posted - 2015.01.04 00:56:50 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:personally the only "toxic" behavior i've seen in AG is from code alts. Vast majority of people in AG just want to enjoy the game in peace...not looking for conflict.
Stop trolling. EVE is intended to be full of conflict and you know it.
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
430
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:01:16 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:personally the only "toxic" behavior i've seen in AG is from code alts. Vast majority of people in AG just want to enjoy the game in peace...not looking for conflict. Stop trolling. EVE is intended to be full of conflict and you know it.
Nonsense. Solo gameplay is an absolute fact of life for a tremendous number of people in highsec. They go out, do pve, earn iskies, and buy stuff. They have minimal interaction with other players, and certainly no ship to ship conflict. The game absolutely supports that playstyle, and that is a reality of Eve. That you don't like solo players doesn't make them cease to exist or make their playstyle invalid. |
Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy
Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:01:58 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:personally the only "toxic" behavior i've seen in AG is from code alts.  Some of the AG crowd go out of their way to denigrate and ban anybody that dares to question the gospel of antiganking or suggest that people should take steps to protect themselves against gankers.
Quote:Vast majority of people in AG just want to enjoy the game in peace...not looking for conflict. Eve is all about conflict, the whole game and its mechanics are designed around it, the whole economy is conflict/destruction driven.
Peace is certainly an option, but it's not a very good one if it leads to people not acknowledging that Eve is at its heart driven by conflict.
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
430
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:05:13 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:personally the only "toxic" behavior i've seen in AG is from code alts. Some of the AG crowd go out of their way to denigrate and ban anybody that dares to question the gospel of antiganking or suggest that people should take steps to protect themselves against gankers. Quote:Vast majority of people in AG just want to enjoy the game in peace...not looking for conflict. Eve is all about conflict, the whole game and its mechanics are designed around it, the whole economy is conflict/destruction driven. Peace is certainly an option, but it's not a very good one if it leads to people not acknowledging that Eve is at its heart driven by conflict.
Eve is at its heart driven by WHATEVER THE HECK YOU WANT. You can spend your entire ever career pressing F1 on rocks, and that is fine. No one is compelled to seek conflict, and there is no reason to consider that the fundamental gameplay in Eve. It's a free range simulation, not a WoT FPS. |
Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy
Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:06:35 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:personally the only "toxic" behavior i've seen in AG is from code alts. Some of the AG crowd go out of their way to denigrate and ban anybody that dares to question the gospel of antiganking or suggest that people should take steps to protect themselves against gankers. Quote:Vast majority of people in AG just want to enjoy the game in peace...not looking for conflict. Eve is all about conflict, the whole game and its mechanics are designed around it, the whole economy is conflict/destruction driven. Peace is certainly an option, but it's not a very good one if it leads to people not acknowledging that Eve is at its heart driven by conflict. Eve is at its heart driven by WHATEVER THE HECK YOU WANT. You can spend your entire ever career pressing F1 on rocks, and that is fine. No one is compelled to seek conflict, and there is no reason to consider that the fundamental gameplay in Eve. It's a free range simulation, not a WoT FPS. You do realise that pressing F1 and nomming on rocks is in itself a conflict driver, by virtue of depriving another player the chance of nomming on those rocks?
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Leto Thule
Obsidian Cadre
1874
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:10:12 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:personally the only "toxic" behavior i've seen in AG is from code alts. Vast majority of people in AG just want to enjoy the game in peace...not looking for conflict. Stop trolling. EVE is intended to be full of conflict and you know it. Nonsense. Solo gameplay is an absolute fact of life for a tremendous number of people in highsec. They go out, do pve, earn iskies, and buy stuff. They have minimal interaction with other players, and certainly no ship to ship conflict. The game absolutely supports that playstyle, and that is a reality of Eve. That you don't like solo players doesn't make them cease to exist or make their playstyle invalid.
Stop trolling. No ship to ship contact? Wrong game.
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
430
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:13:11 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:personally the only "toxic" behavior i've seen in AG is from code alts. Vast majority of people in AG just want to enjoy the game in peace...not looking for conflict. Stop trolling. EVE is intended to be full of conflict and you know it. Nonsense. Solo gameplay is an absolute fact of life for a tremendous number of people in highsec. They go out, do pve, earn iskies, and buy stuff. They have minimal interaction with other players, and certainly no ship to ship conflict. The game absolutely supports that playstyle, and that is a reality of Eve. That you don't like solo players doesn't make them cease to exist or make their playstyle invalid. Stop trolling. No ship to ship contact? Wrong game.
I guess highsec miners and mission runners who spend all of their time engaging with npcs and not other capsuleer ships are all trolls now? Do you just make this stuff up on your own or do you use talking points from code? |
Leto Thule
Obsidian Cadre
1874
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:19:19 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:personally the only "toxic" behavior i've seen in AG is from code alts. Vast majority of people in AG just want to enjoy the game in peace...not looking for conflict. Stop trolling. EVE is intended to be full of conflict and you know it. Nonsense. Solo gameplay is an absolute fact of life for a tremendous number of people in highsec. They go out, do pve, earn iskies, and buy stuff. They have minimal interaction with other players, and certainly no ship to ship conflict. The game absolutely supports that playstyle, and that is a reality of Eve. That you don't like solo players doesn't make them cease to exist or make their playstyle invalid. Stop trolling. No ship to ship contact? Wrong game. I guess highsec miners and mission runners who spend all of their time engaging with npcs and not other capsuleer ships are all trolls now? Do you just make this stuff up on your own or do you use talking points from code?
I'm not a member of code, and no, they aren't trolls. You are trolling because its obvious that you only post this absolutely rediculous crap about EVE being "peaceful" to get a response. Your game is minor league.
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
430
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:27:58 -
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Leto Thule wrote:
I'm not a member of code, and no, they aren't trolls. You are trolling because its obvious that you only post this absolutely rediculous crap about EVE being "peaceful" to get a response. Your game is minor league.
Honestly I could care less about a response. Feel free to not response. I post because thousands of highsec miners and mission runners play Eve this way....they are looking for solo play or collaboration, NOT ship to ship conflict. That you disparage them doesn't make them not exist. Get used to it. |
Leto Thule
Obsidian Cadre
1877
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Posted - 2015.01.04 02:41:28 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:
I'm not a member of code, and no, they aren't trolls. You are trolling because its obvious that you only post this absolutely rediculous crap about EVE being "peaceful" to get a response. Your game is minor league.
Honestly I could care less about a response. Feel free to not response. I post because thousands of highsec miners and mission runners play Eve this way....they are looking for solo play or collaboration, NOT ship to ship conflict. That you disparage them doesn't make them not exist. Get used to it.
I'm fine with it. Its them that needs to get used to it.
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite
CODE.
241
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Posted - 2015.01.04 03:06:51 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Feel free to not response.
That "ivy" league law degree obviously didn't help with your engrish.
A True Champion of High Security Space
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412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite
CODE.
241
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Posted - 2015.01.04 03:12:50 -
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Moved to post above
A True Champion of High Security Space
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loyalanon
The Conference Elite
CODE.
597
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Posted - 2015.01.04 03:21:06 -
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more "PLEASE CCP HELP US"
instead of
"I should help myself in this game today by not being lazy/afk/want to play a single player game/all of the above"
I do love reading the attempts to get CCP to save you though. |
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