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Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:19:27 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:When will the wardecs start?
Never?
Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
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Claudia Osyn
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
1055
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Posted - 2015.01.08 18:19:25 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:... the Great Goddess of the IGS... Can't call yourself that. Pretty sure Vaari already claimed it. I haven't seen it in his title list, so I'm claiming it.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1220
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Posted - 2015.01.08 20:33:15 -
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As I was absent at the start of the year due to circumstances beyond my control. I was unable to report on this till recently:
Capsuleers deal a serious blow to 'De-Minmatarization' - program!
This report will see updates as more information is gathered. Anyone who wishes to share images he/she took during the attacks, you can mail or contact me!
On the attack itself, good to see people are vigilant as ever to stop Nauplius & his atrocious treatment of his minmatar slaves. Congrats for Pyre on their swift action to reinforce the tower so soon, and to the PIE fleet & supporters to finish it off.
It's a shame to see so much bickering in this thread however. While the Pyre Falcon corporation is far from controverse-free, a bit more support for their swift action to bring the tower in reinforced mode wouldn't gone amiss. I understand they have quite some malicious capsuleers in their ranks, so caution is advised & needed when dealing with Pyre Falcon, but do remember, that the world isn't black & white, but rather shades of grey.
Lucky, PIE did finish the job, once again. So far, PIE has been involved in almost all battles against Nauplius' towers, save one fight (the one that put this tower in reinforced mode). Indeed, the one organisation accused of slavery & maltreating slaves is the one that is the main factor in halting Nauplius. Perhaps a wake-up call for others to rise up and take the forefront in halting the terror spread by this false prophet.
Concerning the rescuing of the slaves, generally the fleet that successfully brings down the tower usually decides who can take care of the rescued captives the best. So if you want to take care of the refugees, don't stop at offering the refugees shelter, assist in their liberation by contributing a combatship to the cause, so they can be freed faster & hostile forces are less inclined to disrupt the operation!
All in all, congratulations to all pilots involved in making the cluster just a tad bit brighter by blowing up the latest terror facility built by Nauplius & rescue the tormented minmatar slaves.
Capsuleers deal a serious blow to 'De-Minmatarization' - program!
Find the way to Thera thanks to EvE-Scout!
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Wendrika Hydreiga
232
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Posted - 2015.01.08 21:22:22 -
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Wow! My name was mentioned in one of Miss Jandice's articles! That is so cool!
Yep, I'm officially space famous! Thank you Miss Jandice! |
Claudia Osyn
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
1056
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Posted - 2015.01.08 21:40:01 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Wow! My name was mentioned in one of Miss Jandice's articles! That is so cool!
Yep, I'm officially space famous! Thank you Miss Jandice!
PS: Your article was also a pretty good read! Lovely! Not famous in a good way though.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Wendrika Hydreiga
233
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Posted - 2015.01.08 21:44:26 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Not famous in a good way though.
You know what they say! Can't spell infamous without famous! |
Claudia Osyn
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
1056
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Posted - 2015.01.08 21:55:33 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Not famous in a good way though. You know what they say! Can't spell infamous without famous! One should not strive for infamy....
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
4422
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Posted - 2015.01.08 22:34:56 -
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She is the worst space pirate you've ever heard of, but you have heard of her...
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
290
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Posted - 2015.01.09 00:26:13 -
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A true journalist would attempt to get both sides of the story. Aurora Arcology made no attempt to interview me regarding the De-Minmatarization Tower and its destruction. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
276
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Posted - 2015.01.09 01:47:02 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:She is the worst space pirate you've ever heard of, but you have heard of her...
Is she even worth attention that lasts longer than several minutes of live ammo exchange?
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
222
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:42:21 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Wow! My name was mentioned in one of Miss Jandice's articles! That is so cool!
Yep, I'm officially space famous! Thank you Miss Jandice!
PS: Your article was also a pretty good read! Lovely! Not famous in a good way though. Aside from her controversial research, is there anything else she has done to earn herself such a bad reputation? |
Frenjo Borkstar
The Borkstar Initiative
28
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Posted - 2015.01.09 12:07:46 -
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My goodness people! I fail to see how simple scientific methodology can become so hated!
One reason: Ethics. ethics, ethics! I've had enough of it. I fully endorse and support this project, not because of my hate for the Minmatar people (of which I have none), but simply because it goes above and beyond ethics, doing whatever's necessary.
Quite a few ethics boards already want my head for my research with the Sansha implants, and I don't expect this to make the situation any better, but.
Do not simply destroy something because it uses extreme measures to get what needs to be done, done! |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
276
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Posted - 2015.01.09 12:19:54 -
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Frenjo Borkstar wrote:My goodness people! I fail to see how simple scientific methodology can become so hated!
One reason: Ethics. ethics, ethics! I've had enough of it. I fully endorse and support this project, not because of my hate for the Minmatar people (of which I have none), but simply because it goes above and beyond ethics, doing whatever's necessary.
Quite a few ethics boards already want my head for my research with the Sansha implants, and I don't expect this to make the situation any better, but.
Do not simply destroy something because it uses extreme measures to get what needs to be done, done!
Is cleansing an entire race down to the genetic level 'what needs to be done'? Explain to me, in essay form, what are the benefits of genocide.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Kalaratiri
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
449
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Posted - 2015.01.09 12:32:17 -
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It picks out idiots and allows them to excell.
She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.
This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. -á- CCP Falcon
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Wendrika Hydreiga
235
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Posted - 2015.01.09 14:36:27 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Is cleansing an entire race down to the genetic level 'what needs to be done'? Explain to me, in essay form, what are the benefits of genocide.
Mister Nauplius is a mean monster. And being mean and a monster is part of his nature! Like how a Fedo is stinky or why the Federation must be destroyed! Nature, yes!
Truth be told, people were just mad because I was deliberately helping Mister Nauplius!
I consider him a friend, because even monsters need friends! And since he was so nice to ask me for help, I had no real reason not to! Sure, I didn't expect him to spread rainbows and sunshine across New Eden with my research, but by now my research has reached much more capable hands (like the Poteque doctors that assisted me) that will promptly pick off where I left and do the proper thing by testing it on animals first! And maybe someday, years from now, we will have cheap and accessible "genetic makeover" kits, but for now I'm just happy to be in the vanguard of this medical technique! Not to mention those Pyre guys managed to stop Mister Nauplius so promptly. He can be so silly at times.
Capsuleers want this procedure to become reality. Poor Miss Kim is trapped in an Achura body when she actually wants to be a Deteis! And I did what I could to make that dream a reality! Because in fact I had no reason to share my research, since I already used it on myself, but I did it anyways because I'm friendly and love to help people! |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
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Posted - 2015.01.09 15:19:32 -
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I can actually think of more than one capsuleer whose life would be measurably improved by being able to change their race - as weird as that sounds and feels to those of us who are more secure in our cultural and genetic legacy.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
399
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Posted - 2015.01.09 16:01:34 -
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A Cybernetic Brain in a Flesh body, or a Complete Cyberised Body, would Allow such Things, Instead of this "De-Minmatarisation" Process. |
Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2015.01.09 16:05:04 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I can actually think of more than one capsuleer whose life would be measurably improved by being able to change their race - as weird as that sounds and feels to those of us who are more secure in our cultural and genetic legacy.
I've no doubt such capsuleers exist. The concern, at least for me, is the method and means used to explore this line of research and the intention behind this particular individual's pursuit of the research (the eradication of an entire bloodline out of pure prejudice).
No doubt this is a tiresome argument by now but I've no problem with scientific research and experimentation as long as they are pursued ethically.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
4428
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Posted - 2015.01.09 20:54:38 -
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Those are entirely rational concerns, I think.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1236
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Posted - 2015.01.10 09:21:44 -
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Nauplius wrote:A true journalist would attempt to get both sides of the story. Aurora Arcology made no attempt to interview me regarding the De-Minmatarization Tower and its destruction.
As you can notice in this discussion, there's 3 sides to this specific Tower destruction. I choose to interview 2 of the 3 sides to be able to better understand their motivations & actions.
It is true I did not interview you, nor attempted to do so in previous attempts.This is because I believe that offering you an interview to shed a light on your side of the story wouldn't reveal anything that people already know through your public announcements, namely: You are batshit insane.
Capsuleers deal a serious blow to 'De-Minmatarization' - program!
Find the way to Thera thanks to EvE-Scout!
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
277
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Posted - 2015.01.10 11:06:14 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Is cleansing an entire race down to the genetic level 'what needs to be done'? Explain to me, in essay form, what are the benefits of genocide. Mister Nauplius is a mean monster. And being mean and a monster is part of his nature! Like how a Fedo is stinky or why the Federation must be destroyed! Nature, yes! Truth be told, people were just mad because I was deliberately helping Mister Nauplius! I consider him a friend, because even monsters need friends! And since he was so nice to ask me for help, I had no real reason not to! Sure, I didn't expect him to spread rainbows and sunshine across New Eden with my research, but by now my research has reached much more capable hands (like the Poteque doctors that assisted me) that will promptly pick off where I left and do the proper thing by testing it on animals first! And maybe someday, years from now, we will have cheap and accessible "genetic makeover" kits, but for now I'm just happy to be in the vanguard of this medical technique! Not to mention those Pyre guys managed to stop Mister Nauplius so promptly. He can be so silly at times. Capsuleers want this procedure to become reality. Poor Miss Kim is trapped in an Achura body when she actually wants to be a Deteis! And I did what I could to make that dream a reality! Because in fact I had no reason to share my research, since I already used it on myself, but I did it anyways because I'm friendly and love to help people!
That did not answer the question. Quoting a stereotypical Advanced Physics Professor, that's a 'F-'!
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Wendrika Hydreiga
236
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Posted - 2015.01.10 14:18:38 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:That did not answer the question. Quoting a stereotypical Advanced Physics Professor, that's a 'F-'!
Oh no! I don't want to take this semester again!
But I don't I have enough brains in jars to calculate the reasons why Mister Nauplius is mean... |
Claudia Osyn
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
1064
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Posted - 2015.01.10 20:00:46 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:That did not answer the question. Quoting a stereotypical Advanced Physics Professor, that's a 'F-'! Oh no! I don't want to take this semester again! But I don't I have enough brains in jars to calculate the reasons why Mister Nauplius is mean... His mother didn't hug him enough. As for those grades, report to my office after class for your extra credit assignment.... Gallente culture studys.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Zenariae
Little Butterfly Enterprises
171
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Posted - 2015.01.10 23:03:42 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I can actually think of more than one capsuleer whose life would be measurably improved by being able to change their race - as weird as that sounds and feels to those of us who are more secure in our cultural and genetic legacy.
Mr Pieter,
Sir, I donGÇÖt mean to be rude or anything IGÇÖm simply extemporising from your statement, but changing your race is silly as are the experiments concerned in this thread. Surely weGÇÖre all the same at the primordial level? We emerged from the same pool of goo in MakerGÇÖs ancient soup, no? Cultural legacy is important, I agree, itGÇÖs what colours our temperament as people but that could be transcended, philosophically speaking, by adapting our attitudes towards those origins stemming from a common genome rather than fiddling with impractical genetic manipulations designed to alter racial characteristics. Imagine that a universe full of goo!
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
4430
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Posted - 2015.01.11 03:06:34 -
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I am, personally, very happy in my current racial identity. All I'm saying is that I know two capsuleers who are not.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
459
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Posted - 2015.01.11 04:25:55 -
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I have to consent with pilot Zenariae. Changing ones race over the issue of identity is treating a symptom rather then a problem - That is, societies passing judgements or imparting concrete expectations based on it. In the end, approaching the issue in this way will only validate those unconstructive cultural notions further. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
4430
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Posted - 2015.01.11 09:19:17 -
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Gwen Ikiryo wrote:I have to consent with pilot Zenariae. Changing ones race over the issue of identity is treating a symptom rather then a problem - That is, societies passing judgements or imparting concrete expectations based on it. In the end, approaching the issue in this way will only validate those unconstructive cultural notions further.
Well, with the issue of culture and race being conflated so frequently it's not surprising.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
13642
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Posted - 2015.01.11 09:25:05 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I am, personally, very happy in my current racial identity. All I'm saying is that I know two capsuleers who are not. I always wished I was born Achuran.
=ƒÉÆ I am a banana.
Bob Is Always Watching ...
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
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Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
459
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Posted - 2015.01.11 16:01:12 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well, with the issue of culture and race being conflated so frequently it's not surprising.
Well, that's exactly the problem, Pieter. While in the foggy days of the past such a sentiment might have been excusable by virtue of simple ignorance, we, as enlightened people today, know scientifically that the difference between human beings of different race in terms of mental makeup is so microscopically menial that it simply can't be taken seriously as a factor worthy of having any impact in how we view ourselves or our societies.
Race is race, and culture is culture. That's not to say we shouldn't recognize the connection between the two in terms of heritage and history, as the Caldari do, but allowing those outdated beliefs to continue define us, and to validate them in the ways suggested by some in this thread, will only pass on the legacy of meaningless alienation, hate, and tragedy to our children, instead of finally putting a stop to it.
Candi LeMew wrote:I always wished I was born Achuran.
You should learn to love yourself for the way you are, miss. If you start down the path of trying to change yourself in one way or another instead of doing that first, you'll never stop. |
Wendrika Hydreiga
236
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Posted - 2015.01.11 16:36:19 -
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Miss Ikiryo, what you are saying is rubbish!
Being a Sebiestor was awful! I wasn't welcomed anywhere, people treated me like I was some savage and even when I was super polite people were surprised and thought I was raised on a village or something! I was super thin, short, with no muscle mass, my eyes and head were too big and don't get me started on the whole tattoo business!
Sure, I had to settle with Intaki genetic markers, and it took me weeks of therapy to get my face right, but now I'm strong enough to wear a dropsuit, my body is more receptive to enhancements and now I can work more closely with corporations and Federal agencies that would otherwise turn me down!
As far as my DED file is concerned, I didn't exist until a few of months ago! As such, who I was before any of this is not important at all! What's important here is self-enhancement! |
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