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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 01:52:39 -
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Title was pretty specific
JF can jump the farthest
The original reason for this was loading itty5's with ammo and railguns for reprocessing and using the sma to exceed JF range and size
None of this matters now, everything has same jump range, except JF - which are supposed to haul compressed ore
Reprocessing of modules is at a point, where it just doesn't matter
This would make having normal items like drugs and LO in your cargo literally not aids
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Eveli
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 01:54:09 -
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+1 |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 01:54:19 -
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Please change this! It is SUPER ANNOYING having to remove everything except ammo from ships before placing in ship maint arrays. |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 01:54:30 -
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Supported, or at least finally classify liquid ozone, boosters, and drones as ammo so you dont have to take them out every time you move a ship |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2015.01.11 01:55:09 -
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Have to say its quite an irritation if you store/use ships from a carrier much, would not be sorry to see the restriction go. |
Helios Black
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 01:55:47 -
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Please! |
Diabolus Darkdoom
Van Diemen's Demise Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 01:56:39 -
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Yes please! |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.01.11 02:05:36 -
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Except JFs will be having their ranges nerffed back down once the rest of the null changes are done.
not to mention with the bowhead now this would make freighters useless
so no to the SM"B" restrictions being lifted
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.01.11 03:11:36 -
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This was already brought up in this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5219310
I wrote:a Titan's ship maintenance bay can carry 12 Deep Space Transports for a potential cargospace of ~744 thousand cubic meters plus 100 thousand cubic meters in the fleet hanger (enough to make Freighters blush). Carriers would be able to hold 2 Deep Space transports for a combined cargospace of ~124 thousand plus the carriers' 10 thousand cubic meter fleet hanger (I would never have to use Black Frog ever again).
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Anhenka
The Cult of Personality DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2015.01.11 03:13:23 -
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Would still have problems with carriers hauling Miasmoses full of compressed ore. Could fit in the range of 200k m3 of compressed ore in a carrier. |
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2015.01.11 05:29:22 -
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would like to have it total volume based. If you put a hauler into a carrier, everything which is in the cargo of the hauler would be added to the volume of the hauler itself.
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
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Krops Vont
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2015.01.11 05:42:07 -
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It would be a tad broken if the cargo within ship could not be scanned (not sure if this is already like it or not) & As Anhenka said, hauling more than you actually can. Make it add to M3
As with any human, we must map out everything for the sake of living. So what happens when you put the same aspect in a game with random events? They go nuts trying to figure out how to predict and map out everything.
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 10:21:21 -
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OK, I am all for leaving out compressed ore - that really doesn't matter. If you want to take the time to move miamosa full of compressed ore instead of a rorqual, more power to you
but, EVERYTHING else should be a game changer any longer, modules can't be reprocess like before |
Amarisen Gream
The ArK's Hammer ArK Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.11 13:57:35 -
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More things need to be allowed yes. but not everything in game. Mostly everything has been spoken above.
but it should be limited to Ammo Charges. Drones. Jump Fuel.
(might be a few other things)
xoxo
Amarisen Gream
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 14:09:10 -
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Amarisen Gream wrote:More things need to be allowed yes. but not everything in game. Mostly everything has been spoken above.
but it should be limited to Ammo Charges. Drones. Jump Fuel.
(might be a few other things)
Problem is the 2 biggest items that screw people aren't on your list:
Liquid Ozone and Drugs
Really, the original intent was reprocessing nerf. That is no longer a threat, due to Crius, so it shouldn't mater what we pack in a ship. |
Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2015.01.11 14:10:37 -
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Just exclude all industrial ships from this, so that you can keep depots and refits in combat ships inside SMAs, but not exploit this with haulers inside freighters.
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Lokitoki81
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2015.01.11 14:11:52 -
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Ammo Charges. Drones. Jump Fuel. Liquid ozone Drugs
*drops mic*
Im outta here!
PEACE! |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.01.11 14:18:53 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:
Really, the original intent was reprocessing nerf. That is no longer a threat, due to Crius, so it shouldn't mater what we pack in a ship.
where are you getting your information the reason for it had nothing to do with reprocessing but to do with how carriers were able to haul far more than intended and became a cheaper and all around better alternative to just about any-other hauler outside of HS. and this would still be the case |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 14:29:22 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:
Really, the original intent was reprocessing nerf. That is no longer a threat, due to Crius, so it shouldn't mater what we pack in a ship.
where are you getting your information the reason for it had nothing to do with reprocessing but to do with how carriers were able to haul far more than intended and became a cheaper and all around better alternative to just about any-other hauler outside of HS. and this would still be the case
What people were hauling was XL ammo and 425 rails to far away places to REPROCESS to get minerals for building. Back then you got 100% return from reprocessing.
Fast forward to 2014 - reprocessing is nerfed to the ground and no one in their right mind would reprocess to get minerals, everyone uses compressed ore (Which can be left as the last item not able to go in a SMA)
Sure - could someone load up a titan with a bunch of industrials and go gate to gate or take 2 days to get to a station and try and sell the stuff - maybe. At this point, i would say that is content and not exploiting the cargo of the ship. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.01.11 14:46:21 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:
Really, the original intent was reprocessing nerf. That is no longer a threat, due to Crius, so it shouldn't mater what we pack in a ship.
where are you getting your information the reason for it had nothing to do with reprocessing but to do with how carriers were able to haul far more than intended and became a cheaper and all around better alternative to just about any-other hauler outside of HS. and this would still be the case What people were hauling was XL ammo and 425 rails to far away places to REPROCESS to get minerals for building. Back then you got 100% return from reprocessing. Fast forward to 2014 - reprocessing is nerfed to the ground and no one in their right mind would reprocess to get minerals, everyone uses compressed ore (Which can be left as the last item not able to go in a SMA) Sure - could someone load up a titan with a bunch of industrials and go gate to gate or take 2 days to get to a station and try and sell the stuff - maybe. At this point, i would say that is content and not exploiting the cargo of the ship.
It wasn't what they were moving but what they were moving it IN
and since jump freighters are going to get their range nerffed back down to the intended 5LY once the rest of the industry changes are done this would still be the case
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FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
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Posted - 2015.01.11 14:57:14 -
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I AM SO GAME FOR THIS...
Also hardners and logi refits... Basilisks and guardians should be orcaable with their spare cap links to go from 4/2 to 0/6... (not to mention maybe having some spare hardners for enemy fleet comps... |
M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2015.01.11 15:21:04 -
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Hi, I'm not from PL and I support this too. Stupid drugs and ozone... can we get drugs into contracts while we're at it?!
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
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Posted - 2015.01.11 16:30:43 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:Hi, I'm not from PL and I support this too. Stupid drugs and ozone... can we get drugs into contracts while we're at it?!
I can see it now.
Guys they got my JF! Who did? ******* Concord. How did they do that did you agress? No....Some cumstain left drugs in their ******* Merlin and they scanned me and killed me for running them through HS. ******* ****!
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Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2015.01.11 16:41:23 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:Hi, I'm not from PL and I support this too. Stupid drugs and ozone... can we get drugs into contracts while we're at it?! I can see it now. Guys they got my JF! Who did? ******* Concord. How did they do that did you agress? No....Some cumstain left drugs in their ******* Merlin and they scanned me and killed me for running them through HS. ******* ****! They shouldn't shoot you though. Well my sec status went below the limit because Drugs gave me a sec status hit. I became criminal because of a Merlin.
1) your drug habit and security status have no connection, contraband confiscation results in a minor faction standings hit 2) CONCORD does not attack pilots with low security status 3) you're clueless
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:31:50 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:Hi, I'm not from PL and I support this too. Stupid drugs and ozone... can we get drugs into contracts while we're at it?! I can see it now. Guys they got my JF! Who did? ******* Concord. How did they do that did you agress? No....Some cumstain left drugs in their ******* Merlin and they scanned me and killed me for running them through HS. ******* ****! They shouldn't shoot you though. Well my sec status went below the limit because Drugs gave me a sec status hit. I became criminal because of a Merlin.
The ONLY way to get a Merlin in your JF with something in the cargo (Assembled ship) is by courier contract and drugs can't be contracted.
So, basically this is IMPOSSIBLE
Now, Orca, Bowhead yes, but JF NOPE
This is in addition to the other reason posted above |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:39:02 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:Hi, I'm not from PL and I support this too. Stupid drugs and ozone... can we get drugs into contracts while we're at it?! The ONLY way to get a Merlin in your JF with something in the cargo (Assembled ship) is by courier contract and drugs can't be contracted. So, basically this is IMPOSSIBLE Now, Orca, Bowhead yes, but JF NOPE This is in addition to the other reason posted above
Now i see how you could come up with this post |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:43:45 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:Hi, I'm not from PL and I support this too. Stupid drugs and ozone... can we get drugs into contracts while we're at it?! The ONLY way to get a Merlin in your JF with something in the cargo (Assembled ship) is by courier contract and drugs can't be contracted. So, basically this is IMPOSSIBLE Now, Orca, Bowhead yes, but JF NOPE This is in addition to the other reason posted above Now i see how you could come up with this post
I am not advocating drugs in contracts, therefore to me, it can't happen. If in fact CCP allows it in the future, sure, it may happen.
That being said, everything else is still wrong:
Concord won't blow you up for example |
Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:07:35 -
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Yes .... Do it PLZ! |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:15:22 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:Hi, I'm not from PL and I support this too. Stupid drugs and ozone... can we get drugs into contracts while we're at it?! The ONLY way to get a Merlin in your JF with something in the cargo (Assembled ship) is by courier contract and drugs can't be contracted. So, basically this is IMPOSSIBLE Now, Orca, Bowhead yes, but JF NOPE This is in addition to the other reason posted above Now i see how you could come up with this post I am not advocating drugs in contracts, therefore to me, it can't happen. If in fact CCP allows it in the future, sure, it may happen. That being said, everything else is still wrong: Concord won't blow you up for example
I was responding to the post about contracted drugs, and don't care what you are advocating. So vOv. CONCORD/Navy will shoot you if your sec status drops below required standing for that space.
*Note I am aware CONCORD will only be the "navy" if you traverse CONCORD space, but fuzz is fuzz.
In regards to what you are advocating.
No.
Part of the changes were to make moving stuff riskier and to encourage production in places other than HS.
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Lord Ashur
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
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Posted - 2015.01.11 22:46:48 -
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I agree its about time the cargo restriction on ships in SMA needs to go |
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