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Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.18 22:10:00 - [1] With all the rabble about noob PvP and belt piracy, I decided to give it a go. Here is the result. The quick summary is with virtually no skill points and barely enough ISK to keep me in ships and modules (and no PvP training from a certain shameless self-promoter), I went around kicking some ass and, far more importantly, having fun PvPing from day 1. Well, from day 4 to be precise, assuming you don't count ore relocation . Also, it turns out piracy is FTW, and it's quite possible to be effective at it (and have a steady supply of targets) even when you're only a few days old and are soloing. It also proves, once again, that Eve is what you make of it. Have a look if you're interested. The site is fairly empty right now, I'll be improving the existing content, and will add more diverse content if it turns out people are actually interested Also, here is my Eve-Online version of the infamous lazytown video, which pretty much sums up piracy for me. Enjoy! ---------- You are a Pirate!
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.18 22:26:00 - [2] that looks good. and it's nice to see you DO something instead of whining about the vet skill gap :) Originally by: Oveur Internally dismissed as carebear whine, we quietly moved our Kestrels to another system.
Acinonyx Jubatus International Multi-Player Consortium	Posted - 2006.09.18 22:28:00 - [3] Gee, for day 4 that's pretty good. Or "day 4" I don't know for sure, just using your post as a guide, still pretty good though.
Cmdr Sy EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.09.18 22:28:00 - [4] Ah, I see you are getting the dying out of the way early. Wish I had done that instead of carebearing for my first 4 months in EVE. I am running out of challenges and the temptation to play EVE the way it was meant to be played, at -10, grows weekly.
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.09.18 22:41:00 - [5] Gee, I'm glad I didn't skip over the vid because of that song. Nice! -- Thukkers do
Micia Minmatar N.A.S.A. Cobra Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.18 22:44:00 - [6] Yah, was dreading the vid 'cos of the song... worked out really well, though. I like it. Is this an alt character, btw, or are you fresh out of the box? _______ Originally by: Devian 666 I use my mining disruptor, mining nos, mining hvy launchers and mining valks/acolytes on them.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.19 03:34:00 - [7] No video can be worth hearing that stupid song. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg
Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.19 06:29:00 - [8] Hopefully people who actually like the song will turn up at some point... I remember there were quite a few. Anyway I'll probably be doing a 'normal' video of my adventures thus far shortly. Also, in answer to a question, this is an alt, but my main is a carebear, I had no PvP experience until playing as Xaphania, and have also never flown Caldari before. Also there is no contact between my characters in-game, so I'm effevtively a noob all over again . ---------- You are a Pirate!
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.19 06:57:00 - [9] YAR HARR FIDDLE DEE DEE, YOU ARE A... OMG, not again!! That damn song!! - Help update the EVE History Wiki!
Micia Minmatar N.A.S.A. Cobra Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.19 07:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Xaphania Also, in answer to a question, this is an alt, but my main is a carebear Play the game as you see fit. _______ Originally by: Devian 666 I use my mining disruptor, mining nos, mining hvy launchers and mining valks/acolytes on them.
mirel yirrin Gallente True Core	Posted - 2006.09.19 07:33:00 - [11] Oh my god, best video ever, I can't stop laughing Anyway, really good video, some ok kills, but your kessie setup is a bit weird. I'd swap out the expanders for either nanofibres or if you've got CPU spare some Ballistic control units, and i'd swap out the extender for a booster. Contact me ingame if you need any tips ;] --------------------------------- Inappropriate signature for the forums -Eldo ([email protected]) But..but..it had boobies in it..Wrangler would have approved!
Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.19 07:48:00 - [12] Edited by: Xaphania on 19/09/2006 07:49:19 Originally by: mirel yirrin Oh my god, best video ever, I can't stop laughing Thanks Originally by: mirel yirrin Anyway, really good video, some ok kills, but your kessie setup is a bit weird. I'd swap out the expanders for either nanofibres or if you've got CPU spare some Ballistic control units, and i'd swap out the extender for a booster. Contact me ingame if you need any tips ;] That expando-kestrel was from when I was scavenging to build up some capital - you wouldn't believe what people leave lying around. That was my first fight, and I didn't bother fitting it with expensive mods like a BCU the first time, as I knew nerves would get me killed even if my setup didn't. Since then I've been using a BCU and a 50mm plate to give it some extra survivability and firepower. I toyed with using a booster instead of the extender, but I need my cap to keep that AB going, and boosters suck it dry. You can see that setup in the other fights. ---------- You are a Pirate!
Pizi Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.09.19 07:55:00 - [13] Originally by: Xaphania ........ Also, in answer to a question, this is an alt, but my main is a carebear ...... this exactly descripes whats wrong with the game mechanics. when youll get bored youll recycle him and start fresh wish ccp would tie sec status to the account slot not the char _______________________________________________ EVEpedia [Deutsch/German] Say no to BMs
mirel yirrin Gallente True Core	Posted - 2006.09.19 07:57:00 - [14] Originally by: Pizi Originally by: Xaphania ........ Also, in answer to a question, this is an alt, but my main is a carebear ...... this exactly descripes whats wrong with the game mechanics. when youll get bored youll recycle him and start fresh wish ccp would tie sec status to the account slot not the char So says the obvious alt right? --------------------------------- Inappropriate signature for the forums -Eldo ([email protected]) But..but..it had boobies in it..Wrangler would have approved!
Kornelia Shedim Amarr Nightghosts Inc	Posted - 2006.09.19 08:06:00 - [15] What's funny is that while I was watching this video I got an email reminding me that it is Talk Like A Pirate Day. Nice video BTW. -------------------------- Kornelia Shedim Gringo Extrodinaire
Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.19 08:10:00 - [16] Edited by: Xaphania on 19/09/2006 08:12:43 Originally by: Pizi Originally by: Xaphania ........ Also, in answer to a question, this is an alt, but my main is a carebear ...... this exactly descripes whats wrong with the game mechanics. when youll get bored youll recycle him and start fresh wish ccp would tie sec status to the account slot not the char To clarify this completely, which I must do on the site too, as one of the purposes of this whole excercise is to see what a noob can achieve, and I know many people are going to think of this simply as a way of avoid low sec status: My main is a carebear. My main will always be a carebear, I am more interested in that side of the game. But, I am also interested in piracy, so I created an alt. This alt has no contact with my main, has recieved no money or any other support, and does not fly in the same space. The alt is also of a different race to my main, so I have to learn the ships, equipment and fighting style from scratch. Also I have not PvPed on my main, so I am learning PvP from scratch as Xaphania. I do not intend to discontinue or 'recycle' either character. This is not just an opportunity for me to gank noobs without losing sec status on my 'real' char. If that had been my purpose, I would have been training Xaphania using funds from my main for months already, and would be flying around in a raven. I want to play the game from scratch as a pirate, and will stick with this char through the good and the bad. In fact, if you took the time to read my log, you'd find that just the other day I let someone's pod go because I can't afford the sec hit at this time, which woulnd't be a problem if I was going to just create another character in a weeks time. I am also not going around looking for easy kills, if that was the case I would not engage destroyers and cruisers, I am trying to be the best pirate I can be, and at the moment that means feeling out my limits, i.e. going after the tough targets. I am playing the game as a pirate, and treating Xaphania as a second 'main'. I am effectively playing two mutually exclusive aspects of the game on what are really two mains. Not exploiting the game in any way. I am also exploring just what a noob can really do if they try, and am hopefully succeeding in showing that, as always, Eve is what you make of it. Exploiting the mechanics in any way would make this a self-defeating excercise. ---------- You are a Pirate!
Wild Rho Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.09.19 08:10:00 - [17] I think I shall bookmark this thread to link to when people complain about new players not being able to get into pvp. Nice work. WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your ass will be laminated. - Jennie Marlboro
mirel yirrin Gallente True Core	Posted - 2006.09.19 08:12:00 - [18] Originally by: Xaphania Originally by: Pizi Originally by: Xaphania ........ Also, in answer to a question, this is an alt, but my main is a carebear ...... this exactly descripes whats wrong with the game mechanics. when youll get bored youll recycle him and start fresh wish ccp would tie sec status to the account slot not the char To clarify this completely, which I must do on the site too, as one of the purposes of this whole excercise is to see what a noob can achieve, and I know many people are going to think of this simply as a way of avoid low sec status: My main is a carebear. My main will always be a carebear, I am more interested in that side of the game. But, I am also interested in piracy, so I created an alt. This alt has no contact with my main, has recieved no money or any other support, and does not fly in the same space. The alt is also of a different race to my main, so I have to learn the ships, equipment and fighting style from scratch. Also I have not PvPed on my main, so I am learning PvP from scratch as Xaphania. I do not intend to discontinue or 'recycle' either character. This is not just an opportunity for me to gank noobs without losing sec status on my 'real' char. If that had been my purpose, I would have been training Xaphania using funds from my main for months already, and would be flying around in a raven. I want to play the game from scratch as a pirate, and will stick with this char through the good and the bad. In fact, if you took the time to read my log, you'd find that just the other day I let someone's pod go because I can't afford the sec hit at this time, which woulnd't be a problem if I was going to just create another character in a weeks time. I am also not going around looking for easy kills, if that was the case I would not engage destroyers and cruisers, I am trying to be the best pirate I can be, and at the moment that means feeling out my limits, i.e. going after the tough targets. I am playing the game as a pirate, and treating Xaphania as a second 'main'. I am effectively playing two mutually exclusive aspects of the game on what are really two mains. Not exploiting the game in any way. QFT. --------------------------------- Inappropriate signature for the forums -Eldo ([email protected]) But..but..it had boobies in it..Wrangler would have approved!
Pizi Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.09.19 08:50:00 - [19] mirel are you some parrot on Xaphania¦s sholder ? Xaphania:it wasnt exaxtly directet at you , if you want to develop the char and pirating thats fine with me , not that you care anyway but i hate sec hit avoiders and trail account recyclers the game would be much better with only one char slot imo _______________________________________________ EVEpedia [Deutsch/German] Say no to BMs
Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.19 08:51:00 - [20] Originally by: Pizi i hate sec hit avoiders and trail account recyclers the game would be much better with only one char slot imo /signed ---------- You are a Pirate!
mirel yirrin Gallente True Core	Posted - 2006.09.19 09:10:00 - [21] Originally by: Pizi mirel are you some parrot on Xaphania¦s sholder? Are you Ketchup? --------------------------------- Inappropriate signature for the forums -Eldo ([email protected]) But..but..it had boobies in it..Wrangler would have approved!
Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.19 11:29:00 - [22] Yarr! Today be talk like a pirate day me hearties! Talk like pirates, or ye'll walk the plank! ---------- You are a Pirate!
d'hofren Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.09.19 11:34:00 - [23] Edited by: d''hofren on 19/09/2006 11:34:29 Originally by: Pizi Originally by: Xaphania ........ Also, in answer to a question, this is an alt, but my main is a carebear ...... this exactly descripes whats wrong with the game mechanics. when youll get bored youll recycle him and start fresh wish ccp would tie sec status to the account slot not the char Actually I can think of a fair few folks who started life as a carebear then built an alt to see what pvp was like, fell in love, and never looked back. You go girl.
Ridley Tree	Posted - 2006.09.19 12:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Xaphania Edited by: Xaphania on 19/09/2006 06:23:12 Also, here is my Eve-Online version of the infamous lazytown video, which pretty much sums up piracy for me. Enjoy! That video is awesome
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.19 12:51:00 - [25] The video wins TBH. Yarr, etc. ---------- Nerf Caldaro!
Spix 'UK	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:13:00 - [26] amazing VID , proper entertaining the pod to Frig jump at start love it ! haha , ur in Gal space aswell =P whats ur toons name? lets battle alts ha !
Spix 'UK	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:14:00 - [27] Edited by: Spix ''UK on 20/09/2006 13:15:26 Double post.. not my fault.. BLAME CCP =P
Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Spix 'UK amazing VID , proper entertaining the pod to Frig jump at start love it ! haha , ur in Gal space aswell =P whats ur toons name? lets battle alts ha ! While I appreciate the support, your post hit the part of my brain that processes written words wrecking for a minor headache. Don't say toon. My name is below my '!', in my sig, in the video and is the url of the website. This isn't really an 'alt' in the traditional sense, as I explained. I'm only barely in Gallente space . I buy my stuff in Caldari space and actually at the moment I'm docked back in Kisogo. I'm up for a fight, bring a frigate and good insurance to Ignoitton. ---------- You are a Pirate! Noob Piracy & Video Thread
Ki An Gallente Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Tre Kroner	Posted - 2006.09.20 15:08:00 - [29] Awsome vid! Tried to go about it the same way as you did, but wound up carebearing with my second account too Seems I just can't get away from it. That said, soon enough I'll head out picking fights, but as my corp does not condone piracy I'll have to be selective with my targets. Anyway, good going, and keep those vids coming. If the following ones are half as good as this one, they'll be worth watching. /Ki
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Echelon	Posted - 2006.09.20 15:36:00 - [30] it doesent work for me, just audio...
Rawr Cristina Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.20 18:26:00 - [31] Originally by: Pizi but i hate sec hit avoiders and trail account recyclers the game would be much better with only one char slot imo umm that would stop ppl avoiding sec hits and such but it would do a LOT more harm than good. if ccp dont want people recycling alts then put a limit on how often it can be done :/ and having only 1 char wont stop trial accounters doing the same still no reason to get rid of the other slots...
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2006.09.20 18:59:00 - [32] I am not sure where the pirate part comes into it, i have not seen you ransom anybody. But yeah shooty after 4 days nice going.
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.21 00:08:00 - [33] The song is trying to sell you a lie. Pirates aren't free!
Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:09:00 - [34] Originally by: Sirial Soulfly I am not sure where the pirate part comes into it, i have not seen you ransom anybody. Thus far I have been more interested in keeping my ship in one piece. I actually considered ransoming someone last night, but was all too aware that we were quite evenly matched. It occured to me afterwards that he might have paid up despite, as it turned out, being in the better ship because the fight was quite close. See the new entry at the bottom of this page. ---------- You are a Pirate! Noob Piracy & Video Thread
Sunny Jim Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.21 22:39:00 - [35] Hey Xaph, Great read. Co-incidentally I was kinda doing the same thing. My main account is banned for 10 days (long story) so I have created a second account. I was thinking of trying out the piracy thing and I chose caldari! In hind sight maybe I should have gone gallente but what they hey? I got myself a kestie straight up and fitted her out and found out that the grid really sucks. I wanted to fit 4 light missiles but there ain't no room until I can get a Micro Aux Power Core into it :( As a thought though. Are you interested in ganging up sometime and seeing what two kesties can do? I have enough money to afford a couple of replacement ships so don't mind losing. If you are interested drop me an eve-mail. Sunny
Tibullus	Posted - 2006.09.21 23:22:00 - [36] I hear what you're saying Xaph. But let me tell you some of my issues. I am an alt (second account). I was created not to pirate, but to carebear in order to support a PvP char, since as fun as it is to pirate in a Kestrel, you'll quickly find that it doesn't pay the bills adequately, at least at some point down the line. With my main, I hardly want to be stuck flying only cruisers and frigates when I have over twelve million SP, and yet more often than not I find myself in another Thorax or Vexor, when what I really want to be flying is a Dominix, an Ishkur or an Ishtar. It simply is not economically viable for my pirate main to PvP in those ships, at least not the way I want to PvP. I want to PvP with no strings attached. I want to find the balance between the risk still giving you the buzz, but the losses not devastating, at least not to prevent you using the tech two gear you've trained for. How to get access to this gear with a -10 sec rating is a completely different issue that is almost insurmountable without a hauling alt. So the solution? I created a carebearing alt. I am currently spending all my savings buying up BPOs and researching them like they're going out of fashion, training industry and science skills. My goal is to have ISK on tap - not for the enjoyment of manufacturing in itself, but to support my PvP habit in what I think is the easiest way possible. My point is this: PvPing in a kestrel ganking relative newbies in low-sec belts is great. Try doing it for a few months, by the time you can fly assault frigates, interceptors and battleships. Doesn't seem so great anymore does it? You'll want to PvP in cooler ships with flashy colours, you'll want to fight more competent adversaries because the newbies just don't cut the mustard anymore, but at the same time you'll miss the disposability of a frigate. I certainly do. At some point you will need to adapt. It's not all fun and games, but it damn well should be. That's the point I'm trying to reach, and I wish you all the best when you reach your cross-roads and take pirating to the next level.
Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.22 08:04:00 - [37] Originally by: Tibullus Interesting stuff You make an interesting point. At the moment I'm quite happy in the Kestrel, and wouldn't fly anything bigger even if I could, but that of course won't always be the case. When I do reach my 'cross-roads', if nothing else it should make for interesting reading for the rest of you ---------- You are a Pirate! Noob Piracy & Video Thread
Tibullus	Posted - 2006.09.22 11:40:00 - [38] Originally by: Xaphania Originally by: Tibullus Interesting stuff You make an interesting point. At the moment I'm quite happy in the Kestrel, and wouldn't fly anything bigger even if I could, but that of course won't always be the case. When I do reach my 'cross-roads', if nothing else it should make for interesting reading for the rest of you I remember returning to EVE after spending a year without the internet. The first thing I did was log my PvP main, grab whatever ship was at hand and go hunting. It happened to be a kestrel, and the first thing I ganked was another kestrel pilot who was nine days old. It felt so hollow and pointless. Now ganking a year-and-a-half old Cyclone pilot in a Vexor, that's the buzz I'm talking about. I suspect you will hit the proverbial cross-roads in about a month to two months. PvP never stops getting better, only harder. Worse comes to worse, just support you pirate char with your main, problem solved. I look forward to hearing more from you further down the line.
Xaphania Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.22 11:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Tibullus Worse comes to worse, just support you pirate char with your main, problem solved. I look forward to hearing more from you further down the line. I won't support this character with my main or any other character. I intend to see what can be done without any artificial help. That's where it'll get interesting. Or phenomenally boring, who knows . Either way I'll write about the results. ---------- You are a Pirate! Noob Piracy & Video Thread

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