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Tissa
Minmatar
Perpetua Umbra
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2006.09.19 14:07:00 -
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I would like to gently point out what someone on another thread said about downtime's timing being annoying for us European players (me especially because I mostly play during the day when my children are at school).
I know the US has twice as many people (my stats may be wrong it's a rough guess) on at their midday but using that as an argument just don't tally because in that case have two weeks dt during our day and one week for them.
Or...do as the op suggested (forgive me I forget where I read it.) and have it at 6am eve time. I do think it unfair that we get every patch happen during our day while the rest of the world is sleeping.
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Izo Azlion
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.19 14:09:00 -
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An then the aussies have it at around their evening?
I aint even Austrailian and I dont see it as fair.
Its fine how it is, tbh. It has to be in the middle of the day because thats when the people in london and Iceland are awake and comfortably available to work on the servers.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.19 14:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Izo Azlion
It has to be in the middle of the day because thats when the people in london and Iceland are awake and comfortably available to work on the servers.
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Cymru2000
Lords of Maelstrom
The Confederation
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Posted - 2006.09.19 14:11:00 -
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I think it's done this way so that CCP employees are actually in the office and fully awake, afterall i'd hate to have to make major changes to the systems where I work at 5am  |
Jade Grimpkin
Trader's Academy
Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.19 14:28:00 -
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7pm in the evening here, gives you time to make a nutritous and delightful snack before logging back in.
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Sharkbait
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Posted - 2006.09.19 15:22:00 -
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it wouldn't make any sence to have it in the middle of the night when everyone is sleeping. during the day there is a full team on hand incase of any problems.
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digital0verdose
Caldari
Megathorn Minning And Industry
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Posted - 2006.09.19 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait
it wouldn't make any sence to have it in the middle of the night when everyone is sleeping. during the day there is a full team on hand incase of any problems.
Most companies would appeal to their larger base and have employees come in at night to take care of the issues.
Just a decision each company makes. Fortunately the EVE downtime is only about an hour or two a day instead of a half day once a week.
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Contralto
Gallente
Rhane's Research and Development Labs.
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Posted - 2006.09.19 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Grimpkin
7pm in the evening here, gives you time to make a nutritous and delightful snack before logging back in.
Yes the time is perfect for me... 6pm to 7pm, (Thailand) time for evening meal and a few chores around the house.
from the numbers online graph at http://eve.coldfront.net/ DT comes right at the time of lowest numbers online and gets the servers cleaned up for the rush hour 5 hours later.
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Contralto
Gallente
Rhane's Research and Development Labs.
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Posted - 2006.09.19 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Grimpkin
7pm in the evening here, gives you time to make a nutritous and delightful snack before logging back in.
Yes the time is perfect for me... 6pm to 7pm, (Thailand) time for evening meal and a few chores around the house.
from the numbers online graph at http://eve.coldfront.net/ DT comes right at the time of lowest numbers online and gets the servers cleaned up for the rush hour 5 hours later.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.19 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: digital0verdose
Originally by: Sharkbait
it wouldn't make any sence to have it in the middle of the night when everyone is sleeping. during the day there is a full team on hand incase of any problems.
Most companies would appeal to their larger base and have employees come in at night to take care of the issues.
Wrong. Only a tiny minority of companies can even afford to *consider* doing that sort of thing. The vast and overwhelming majority of companies do not; having less than ten employees total, there's no way on earth that they could afford to hire people on night-shift rates.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.19 15:56:00 -
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Devs have posted in the past that it's for several reasons:
1) The user count is relatively low
2) It's at a time when both the devs in Iceland, and the server guys in London, are all about
3) Moving it to any other part of the day will inevatibly annoy somebody
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Helplessandlost
Minmatar
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.19 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: digital0verdose
Originally by: Sharkbait
it wouldn't make any sence to have it in the middle of the night when everyone is sleeping. during the day there is a full team on hand incase of any problems.
Most companies would appeal to their larger base and have employees come in at night to take care of the issues.
Just a decision each company makes. Fortunately the EVE downtime is only about an hour or two a day instead of a half day once a week.
But it would seem they already are based on the user numbers shown throughout the day...
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Rutoo
Gallente
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.09.19 17:34:00 -
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Whats done is done, Downtime is not gonna move just becuase some people can't find something else to do for a hour.
People come to expect downtime at a certain time, What happens if you change it? you **** More people off then you would making the few people who complained Happy.
It's been this way for 3 years and it's not gonna change
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digital0verdose
Caldari
Megathorn Minning And Industry
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Posted - 2006.09.19 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: digital0verdose
Originally by: Sharkbait
it wouldn't make any sence to have it in the middle of the night when everyone is sleeping. during the day there is a full team on hand incase of any problems.
Most companies would appeal to their larger base and have employees come in at night to take care of the issues.
Wrong. Only a tiny minority of companies can even afford to *consider* doing that sort of thing. The vast and overwhelming majority of companies do not; having less than ten employees total, there's no way on earth that they could afford to hire people on night-shift rates.
WTF planet are you living on. Almost all the main stream MMOS that are out currently start maintenance cycles early early morning and attempt to have them finished by mid day.
And I am not faulting CCP on this as their maintenance fits perfectly with me, however, that is because they are in a completely different time zone than I am (-4 GMT). EUR has a different opinion im sure.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.19 18:44:00 -
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Having DT in the middle of the night, as I do, may sound nice on paper...
But by the time I get online, even on the weekends when I dont have to go to work first, all the good belts are already stripped and all the complexes are run by corp and alliance mates. I wouldnt mind having DT being in middle of the day US time, then on weekends I can get access to freshly spawned content.
*This forum post is a hint.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
AFK
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Posted - 2006.09.19 19:03:00 -
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I'm confused by all this talk about 'morning', 'mid day' and 'nighttime'. It doens't make a lot of sense to me, considering the global nature of the internet and the round nature of the globe...
Any time will be inconvenient for someone - even in the same timezone some people might think it a convenient time and others an inconvenient time.
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digital0verdose
Caldari
Megathorn Minning And Industry
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Posted - 2006.09.19 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
I'm confused by all this talk about 'morning', 'mid day' and 'nighttime'. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, considering the global nature of the internet and the round nature of the globe...
Any time will be inconvenient for someone - even in the same timezone some people might think it a convenient time and others an inconvenient time.
I seriously doubt you will find anyone to argue with you on your point, however, a company would, in most cases, be more protective over their biggest regional income if they have the ability to.
I'm not entirely sure where CCP's largest income is, though if it is the US, it is obvious they aren't catering to us as they already stated they do their maintenance during their normal work day. I'm sure if there was ever a server split where the US had a server by its self, we would experience the inconvenience too.
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Estelle Matsuko
Caldari
The Beiatch Corp Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.19 19:36:00 -
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Why 11 to 12 gmt?
So the server guys in london can be the first ones in the queue at the Bar.
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flummox
Circle of Jerks
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Posted - 2006.09.19 19:47:00 -
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sick of this 'debate'...
look, i constantly run into downtime effecting gameplay. my downtime comes around 6am in the morning. and, yes, it has come to bite me in the ass. when i first started playing the game 3 years ago i would play until 6am (or 5am if you count stupid daylight wasting time) and then have to stop.
not all players in the world work traditional 9-5 shifts. not all players will be affected by the things you are affected by. so quit trying to change things so they suit you.
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Ombey
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.19 19:56:00 -
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I don't see the problem. According the graph here, CCP have timed DT to coincide with no players being logged in at all- a stroke of genius! 
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.19 19:59:00 -
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DT coincides with the few hours of the day at which player population is lowest... makes sense to me.
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.09.19 20:12:00 -
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In New Zealand it hits at 11pm... normally in weekends I cannot be bothered waiting to come back on. It is a real pain. Day light savings comes in soon and it will be 10pm, that's even worse ;(
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Roxors
Caldari
Solar Wind
Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.19 20:26:00 -
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i live in gmt -4 time and i generally dont run into downtime at all as it happens durring my morning work commute.. but.. i too run into DT issues as far as by the time i get home to play the rest of the server population has had 9 hours to clean the belts and plexes.. it really can be a pain..
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.19 20:29:00 -
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I tend to be asleep during DT, as is most of America, with the exception of the nightowls.
And TBH, if it bugs you that ou can't stay up late to play EVE, goto bed early and wakeup early and play it then.
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Sir Erighan
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.19 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Roxors
i live in gmt -4 time and i generally dont run into downtime at all as it happens durring my morning work commute.. but.. i too run into DT issues as far as by the time i get home to play the rest of the server population has had 9 hours to clean the belts and plexes.. it really can be a pain..
Exactly. We don't get DT during the evening in the US, but we do get everyone's "sloppy seconds" when it comes to mining.
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Rumbaar
Solitary Forsaken
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Posted - 2006.09.20 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: Rumbaar on 20/09/2006 03:54:39
For an Australian I currently get it between 9pm-10pm, now the biggest issue is that often in recent times the DT has taken far longer than the 1 hour, now I'm trying to plan and change my training so I can get to bed.
2-3 hour shift to 1-2EVE time would be perfect. Mid pacific people would be annoyed then. It will only get worse for use during Daylight saving.
Also announcing 20 minutes after DT that hotfixes might cause longer delays is bit ... weak!
Also I don't know of any MMO that requires a server restart each and everyday!!
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.20 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: MysticNZ
In New Zealand it hits at 11pm [...] Day light savings comes in soon and it will be 10pm, that's even worse ;(
Actually, it'll be midnight. Spring forward, fall back, etc.
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Franky B
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.09.20 05:20:00 -
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yes, aussies get it bad since it cuts right into our prime playtime or cuts it off right at the edge
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Brock McF
Black Lance
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.20 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn
Having DT in the middle of the night, as I do, may sound nice on paper...
But by the time I get online, even on the weekends when I dont have to go to work first, all the good belts are already stripped and all the complexes are run by corp and alliance mates. I wouldnt mind having DT being in middle of the day US time, then on weekends I can get access to freshly spawned content.
*This forum post is a hint.
AMEN brother. I have to get up at 5am to run a complex, weeee. I wish I had a DT at 12pm NA timezone : ).
HINT HINT CCP take a look at DT spawning.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.20 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Franky B
yes, aussies get it bad since it cuts right into our prime playtime or cuts it off right at the edge
us aussies just goto bed
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