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SEP Aporat ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 05:13:00 - [61] Edited by: SEP Aporat on 20/09/2006 05:13:37 Originally by: Caerleus Aurura - done by the few for the few.. Try spanning multiple events over a period of a week and have something happen in highly populated areas which more people can take part in. Then, hopefully, you will capture peoples imagination a little more and raise the profile a bit. This is not true. The dilemma here is 'touching' as many people as possible while at the same time expanding events to all regions and constellations in EVE. Combine that with the number of volunteers and you'll find that its virtually impossiple to touch all playes in EVE - but we do try. Regarding events spanning several weeks - we have them. Actually we have a lot of them. Events like these may run 2-4 times over a few weeks or even 20-30 times over several month (and everything in between of course). It all depends on what story you want to convey as a producer. ___________________________ Senior Event Producer ISD Aurora

Lallara Zhuul Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.20 06:17:00 - [62] Personally I think AURORA being in 0.0 is a waste of time. In any NBSI space running any kind of event is pointless just because of the pew pew pew factor. Personally I have taken part in 12 AURORA events in my time and more than twice that in player generated ones that has had a certain goal or predetermined ROE. But for us PIE every day is an RP event. The Aurora events have that I have taken part of has spanned from protecting a Tetrimon convoy to protecting miners, from moving the Tal-Romon cathedral to going for a patrol in Bleak Lands. Things seem to be picking up. /me gives two thumbs up. 'Death is the only Release from duty..'
Smada Templar Republic	Posted - 2006.09.20 07:10:00 - [63] Edited by: Smada on 20/09/2006 07:15:52 Well I've being playing for 2+ years and NEVER seen an event - hightailed it 20+ jumps across EVE to get to one a few times but always too late. I keep a weather eye on the Events channel in game but to be honest the only thing you ever see there is; PlayerX: Anything happening? PlayerY: No! PlayerZ: As usual! PlayerX: K thnx Rinse and repeat ad nauseum.. And as for the Events forum on the forums (forae?)...well it's a fecking joke quite frankly! Lottery this, lottery that...make a Lottery forum for godssake! Have Event related news/info/comment in the Events forum - now there's a novel idea! My comments are not levelled at the Aurora folks (I know you're hamstrung by CCP) but at the devs. Come of get your act together! If you can't be arsed to do the events (which you clearly can't, given the evidence of mine and most others, time playing EVE) pass the torch on to ISD Aurora and let people who are interested in Events run them please.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.20 07:20:00 - [64] Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 19/09/2006 19:23:13 Can we please have a mining event already? There was one a few jumps from Amarr last week Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Lori Carlyle CAD Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.20 07:31:00 - [65] Well i'd apply as i'm about to have a lot more time on my hands, (company administration 4TL) but apart from the name, i've never seen, heard of, acted in any "event" you guys have done. tbh i just took your name to mean you write the fiction on the site.

EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.20 07:36:00 - [66] Originally by: Xander XacXorien I've played Eve for over 1.5+ years. I've never seen an event, heard of an event or heard of anyone ever being in an event. To people that say about this - check out the in-game News. Major events usually have a News items made out of them. There was the Nyx event, for example. Granted, not that many events make it to the news. Also in Intergalactic Summit people often discuss events in-character that they took part in. For example in relation to the Angel-Sansha war, or for that matter the Tetrimon arc. In conclusion, the events are out there. Not everyone runs into them, and that's unfortunate, but they're there. Hopefully in growing numbers in the future, too


Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2006.09.20 07:46:00 - [67] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 19/09/2006 19:23:13 Can we please have a mining event already? There was one a few jumps from Amarr last week Meh why wasn't I told?! imo I think it's kinda hard to know or participate in events since there's usually no easy notice unless you happen to see the blue text in local. I understand why you don't want to advertise about it but really you should make some type of notice about the location or similar. EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Monitor this Thread

Revan Neferis Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.09.20 08:12:00 - [68] Events with Aurora are interesting and happening quite often. Personally I've been involved in a few, ex Tetrimon and now the Cult of Catechization who even declared war against us. I guess I just have one question related to the whole aspect of involvement: Why do we have so many "good guys" Aurora and basically no "villains" aurora to support the other side? A sani sabik aurora? One aurora representing criminal factions ? etc etc.. would help a lot to make these events fair. Revan Neferis Verisum

EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.20 08:18:00 - [69] Originally by: Revan Neferis I guess I just have one question related to the whole aspect of involvement: Why do we have so many "good guys" Aurora and basically no "villains" aurora to support the other side? A sani sabik aurora? One aurora representing criminal factions ? etc etc.. would help a lot to make these events fair. Can't comment on the Tetrimon side of things since I'm not involved with them personally, but generally AURORA plays a lot of bad guys too. Serpentis, Guristas and the like, and of course the various criminals in other non-faction events. It's up to the individual producer/event in the end how actors are assigned to tasks.

James Snowscoran Caldari Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.20 09:14:00 - [70] Originally by: EP Weichor Originally by: Revan Neferis I guess I just have one question related to the whole aspect of involvement: Why do we have so many "good guys" Aurora and basically no "villains" aurora to support the other side? A sani sabik aurora? One aurora representing criminal factions ? etc etc.. would help a lot to make these events fair. Can't comment on the Tetrimon side of things since I'm not involved with them personally, but generally AURORA plays a lot of bad guys too. Serpentis, Guristas and the like, and of course the various criminals in other non-faction events. It's up to the individual producer/event in the end how actors are assigned to tasks. I resent the comment made about Serpentis being bad guys! Slander! -----

EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.20 09:24:00 - [71] Originally by: James Snowscoran I resent the comment made about Serpentis being bad guys! Slander! Well, it's all in your point of view

Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.20 09:31:00 - [72] I resent the comments made implying that Amarrian loyalists are the good guys! Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Ifni Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.09.20 10:04:00 - [73] Why is AURORA entry limited to those that are with a clean forum/game record (ie, no bans/warnings)? Such characters as DigitalCommunist, Viceroy and Istvaan would make excellent AURORA Senior Event Producers, and I believe at various times, were interested in doing so. Why the perfect-record entry requirement? It is like denying Michael Schumacher entry to an F1 race because he was caught speeding... You take what is offered.And that must sometimes be enough.
Revan Neferis Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.09.20 10:10:00 - [74] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 20/09/2006 10:11:24 Originally by: EP Weichor Can't comment on the Tetrimon side of things since I'm not involved with them personally, but generally AURORA plays a lot of bad guys too. Serpentis, Guristas and the like, and of course the various criminals in other non-faction events. It's up to the individual producer/event in the end how actors are assigned to tasks. In terms of existent villains Aurora I do agree, but are they interating with players regarding events? I know for sure that Sani Sabik for example, since Omir vanished there is no Aurora at all interacting with "us". we need an "heretic" Aurora who interacts often, or at least same timming as the "loyalist" ones. We could make the war against the Cult for example, so much more interesting Originally by: Rodj Blake I resent the comments made implying that Amarrian loyalists are the good guys! I knew it! Revan Neferis Verisum

Garthagk ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 10:31:00 - [75] Originally by: Ifni Why the perfect-record entry requirement? The rules have been created over the past years in response to specific incidents that have arisen. Additionally, to promise a fair try to everybody interested in joining the project, we must apply the rules equally to every applicant, regardless of how well known they are within the community. Anybody who has been rejected from AURORA (or never gotten a response to an application/interview/etc) is welcome to contact the leads directly via email to [email protected] with any questions. Yes, we answer our email. -------------- Garthagk Aurora Captain The Aurora Project

FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:42:00 - [76] I think all the events I've witnessed, have been when I've AFK'd travelling in southern Caldari space (Kisogo/Perimieter/etc) and come back to my computer to see RP chat. Thinking out loud here, things that could improve events... [list=] Having clearer rules of engagement Whilst I know that AURORA will respond with positive or negative comments when people state they will engage actors, and that AURORA don't want people blowing the actors away 30s into an event, it is still too complex. I'd love to become involved in an event, just I dont want to risk a 100m ISK ship because I lock the wrong person in the heat of the moment. More buildup/cooldown to events I can see AURORA's point, they don't want to announce an event, only to have 1000+ people try to turn up to witness it. But it would be nice if actors were identified in the forums (teal bars or something), with comments both before and after an event (if they are still alive!). I can see that this isn't appropriate for all events, some are designed to be spontaneous, but it would least give us an idea that something is going on. You don't need to go into details. More alliance involvement I remember that FoE had a friendly Guristas fleet dropped in on them when engaging IRON a while ago. I don't see any more events like that happening or being mentioned. Whilst 'helping' alliances is really not on, I can forsee it being quite cool that local pirates become 'overly aggressive' towards alliances that try and claim their space. Having the odd, unnanounced, NPC fleet spawn in a system, alongside one or two actors acting as fleet commanders, could be interesting for alliances. More events! Please? [/list=] What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.20 14:04:00 - [77] Originally by: FireFoxx80 But it would be nice if actors were identified in the forums (teal bars or something), with comments both before and after an event (if they are still alive!). I can see that this isn't appropriate for all events, some are designed to be spontaneous, but it would least give us an idea that something is going on. You don't need to go into details. Some of them do post on the Intergalactic Summit. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Par'Gellen Gallente Low Grade Ore	Posted - 2006.09.20 15:20:00 - [78] I guess my main issue with events like these is the huge amount of confusion usually associated with them. "Will CONCORD kill me if I attack?" being the biggest one (and also the one that I see you guys are avoiding answering like grammatical ninjas). Can we get some general guidlines on what we can and can't do during an event? Starmaps - An Insta Solution
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.20 15:21:00 - [79] Unless you watch every single thread in there tohugh, it's easily missed. Loads of people not properly RPing in there. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!

SEP Benjamin Caldari ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:12:00 - [80] Originally by: Par'Gellen I guess my main issue with events like these is the huge amount of confusion usually associated with them. "Will CONCORD kill me if I attack?" being the biggest one (and also the one that I see you guys are avoiding answering like grammatical ninjas). Can we get some general guidlines on what we can and can't do during an event? Aurora FAQ Will CONCORD attack? They are slightly outdated but you get the picture :) ----------------------------------------- SEP Benjamin Senior Event Producer ISD Aurora


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:21:00 - [81] Originally by: Revan Neferis I know for sure that Sani Sabik for example, since Omir vanished there is no Aurora at all interacting with "us". Well - that specific case would be because AURORA doesn't have control over the Blood Raiders. We can't interact with you from that perspective (i.e. members of that faction). Not to say we can't or wouldn't work with you in another way, but the Blooders are off the table atm. ----------- Aine Tier 2 Events Producer AURORA

Donmadefy	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:38:00 - [82] I suppose you could always have a new flashing colour on the overview to mark as "safe from concord"
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:48:00 - [83] two questions: are any events ever announced before they happen? if so, where? are they marked in a special way that makes recognizing the announcement easy? if yes, how are they marked? is there any way to read up on previous events? (reports, chatlogs, news entries, such-like) opinion on aurora's work: i'm coming from another mmorpg (SoR) that has at least weekly events and mostly smaller events during the week too. they manage to usually involve a big part of the userbase (which is admittedly quite smaller than here). i have in that game so far never missed an event i wanted to go to unless it was dictated through rl issues. i'm playing eve for 7+ months now, at least 6 of which i spent in empire, ranging from genesis to orvolle and through all cosmos constellations and surrounding regions. i have never once seen any event, heard of any event, i do not know one single person that was ever involved in an event nor do any of the people i know have ever heard of any of their friends being involved in events. until today i was of the opinion that eve doesn't have any events, aside from fake and pointless news entries. my opinion now is that i will most probably never see an event up until the day that i cancel my sub.
Trevedian Amarr KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.09.20 18:55:00 - [84] Edited by: Trevedian on 20/09/2006 18:56:23 I've been in several events like; 1) The Amarr Championship 2) The Crielere/Rancer Event with NPC BS's at a moon before you could find NPC BS ingame. 3) Loads of small ISD events in Yulai... 4) The event where Smegheads Inc. camped with loads of Blood Raiders actors and we creamed loads of Aegis Militia and Amarr Roleplayers, but this was misreported in the news as an Amarr Empire Victory. 5) The PVP Alliance Championship 6) The Serpentis Invasion of Syndicate I can recall in the spring of 2004 that several nights a week there would be a small event (Find the CrashÖ drug dealer etc.) in the Yulai system, which was a hub like Jita at the time... There were never any great prizes but the events were alot of fun and made for thrilling chases... Every once in a while throw in a real reward, a Tech 3 Snurgle BlasterÖ or something... There are events out there happening all the time, it helps if you're in 10 channels all the time finding out whats goin on, but if your active and diligent the events will come to you. Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me

EP Cemetiere	Posted - 2006.09.20 18:59:00 - [85] Edited by: EP Cemetiere on 20/09/2006 19:04:05 Originally by: IzzyChan Originally by: EP Baramos Originally by: Hillesumos I have one simple question really: will Aurora and event in general go talky like the cinema. Since at some point in time, we will get an in-game voice system, is there any plan to add voice acting to the event. Would be cool to see how a real galente or caldari sound like.... I don't think this will happen due to a few reasons, one more humorous one would be that hearing someone like me try to use a 'womanly' voice, while amusing, would harm the event's atmosphere. Simple. Just hire some chicks. Nebulai is a chick, no matter what drunken photographic proof they may provide from last years fanfest i simply cannot believe that a man would choose a female character to play as, she hopes to prove me wrong at this year fanfest, but with a staff bar i doubt i will remember any of said proof. For those who post saying dont run events here in 0.0 or your events suck or therabouts. If you've been playing the game for years, and come across an event, surley like most you see it as a nice change of pace and perhaps a chance to get your corps face in the news. Unless your one of the frequent participants who expect to become exceedingly wealthy from minor participation. If you feel the events you've taken part in werent good enough, or too open ended (go to point a shoot/defend target x) signup and make a difference, if your not part of the soloution your part of the problem, that or a filthy carebear and its my duty to exterminate you.

Francesca Dell'Agio eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.20 20:39:00 - [86] Originally by: EP Cemetiere that or a filthy carebear and its my duty to exterminate you. Jeez dude, relax. I'd have thought ISD was better then that .. breathe in, breathe out .. WTB: In Game Map Setting: Players logged off in system last 24 hours. Guess why ^^
DigitalCommunist Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:17:00 - [87] Some general critcisms.. Acting Events designed to captivate the masses shouldn't have speeches (if only because they get lost admist the local spam), nor should they be so heavily IC. By that I mean incessant referencing to fictional entities and high formality. The masses will not dive into something so divergent from normal gameplay, it takes time. Actors also need to learn when talking in monologues is harming the event, some of the scripting sounds good on paper but when you mix it in between shouts of "lol" and "omg lag" it ends up sounding rehearsed and out of left field. There needs to be more improvisation and more socialization than dialogue, actors who care more about their characters than carrying out carefully sequenced events. Events Brings me to the next part.. the story arcs could use some organization. Rather than a milestone being "after they haul this to there, move on", it could be "after establishing character, and conversing with the interested parties, move onto next phase". This prevents cookie-cutter personality templates where the players regard the actor as more NPC than human. Even in real life, soldiers aren't rigid and humourless. Not all scientists are smart, or scientific. Traders don't have to be fair, or play by the rules. Duration Instead of having 7 1-hour events spread across three weeks, why not have a single 7-hour event? Play long enough for people to really get into it and have time to really organize their efforts than simply rush to the regroup system and bumrush the obstacle. Stories Lets just say.. if you rely on getting across minute details to uninterested crowds, or using obscure organizations to create originality.. it needs more work. 90% of the events still end up as "go transport this", "go kill that" or "protect me". Hard to be original when the characters get biomassed so often. They should be more like players, persistant, and affecting each others' business. Maybe one day you'll have a Molle or Lord Zap of the roleplay world. Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.

EP Baramos Minmatar ISD AURORA	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:24:00 - [88] Originally by: Revan Neferis I guess I just have one question related to the whole aspect of involvement: Why do we have so many "good guys" Aurora and basically no "villains" aurora to support the other side? A sani sabik aurora? One aurora representing criminal factions ? etc etc.. would help a lot to make these events fair. I wouldn't say we have too many 'good guys'. If anything, it could be the other way around. But it depends on who you view as good or bad. Some people might see the Guristas as the good guys. Personally I've always liked the Guristas, and to an extent the Serpentis.


EP Baramos Minmatar ISD AURORA	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:32:00 - [89] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Actors also need to learn when talking in monologues is harming the event, some of the scripting sounds good on paper but when you mix it in between shouts of "lol" and "omg lag" it ends up sounding rehearsed and out of left field. There needs to be more improvisation and more socialization than dialogue, actors who care more about their characters than carrying out carefully sequenced events. Generally speaking, there is no scripting. Most events we have involve a set goal for the actors, and how they go about that goal, is not set in stone. We have some rules ofcourse, but I can't think of any event I've been in that was scripted. A speech event is probably the closest type that comes to mind.


SEP Gabriel ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:53:00 - [90] Originally by: Ifni Why is AURORA entry limited to those that are with a clean forum/game record (ie, no bans/warnings)? Such characters as DigitalCommunist, Viceroy and Istvaan would make excellent AURORA Senior Event Producers, and I believe at various times, were interested in doing so. Why the perfect-record entry requirement? It is like denying Michael Schumacher entry to an F1 race because he was caught speeding... As far as I know, a few minor violations (signatures and the like) do not bar you from joining Aurora. _______________________________________________ Senior Event Producer ISD AURORA


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