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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:58:00 -
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Every corp mentioned (except Fate.) is -10 to us.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ghargon Gotta be
Huff FE - old school, not the alliance or the reformed corp M0o Teddybears Tundragon And S******dly of course ... unfortunately that makes 6
What can i say ... pirates are more fun in general.
You know, even as an old-skool Huffy, I would have to say that FE the original corp is the pick of that bunch. They were what many alliances still aspire to be. They were probably the BoB of their time.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli
Originally by: Nafri Every Corp which is alive for more than 1.5 years and can afford to loose a few dozend Battleships without any money problems.
Everybody else is no value for an alliance
Not true at all, from day 1 we were in a position to lose 50 BSs a week easily and still everyone could happily dock and grab another one, for free
Doesnt make you a good corp, I said:
1.5 years and the ability to loose a lot if needed.
A good corp is not built on good members, its built on directors and CEOs. Look at all the corp which had a lot of great members, but disbanded after 3-4 month again. They had directors which werent able to run the corp.
Sig removed, please keep all signature graphics EVE related - Xorus
From Dusk till Dawn
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:24:00 -
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i agree with nafri... great corps have great leaders.
d solo.
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Nebuli
Caldari Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo i agree with nafri... great corps have great leaders.
d solo.
Couldnt agree more, but my point is you cant look at a corps info and see they are only 6 months old and dismiss them purely because they arent over a magical 1.5 years old.
Our corp is a merger of (originaly) 3 long running corps, that then 2 or is it now 3 other very old corps also merged into, with a sister corp thats been running more or less since day 1 of EVE.
Corp history can be very misleading
CEO - Art of War
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli
Originally by: darth solo i agree with nafri... great corps have great leaders.
d solo.
Couldnt agree more, but my point is you cant look at a corps info and see they are only 6 months old and dismiss them purely because they arent over a magical 1.5 years old.
Our corp is a merger of (originaly) 3 long running corps, that then 2 or is it now 3 other very old corps also merged into, with a sister corp thats been running more or less since day 1 of EVE.
Corp history can be very misleading
Come back in 1.5 years and tell me if it worked, unless that happened, there is no way to decide if a corp is working or not.
Sig removed, please keep all signature graphics EVE related - Xorus
From Dusk till Dawn
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Shamis Orzoz
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:42:00 -
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SNIGG Pre-MC Contraband ASS (if lordmix is active) TDG (minus lifewire's baby) FATE (If phonix and Hama are both active ).
Hmm, looks like I need to make new friends, all my favorite corps have fallen apart
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.09.20 23:00:00 -
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i'll add .5. corps to my list to avoid.. ATUK, reign, BOS, Shinra and old supremacy always rock my world
so excluding them and bob.. you first have to ask what sort of corp makes a good alliance member.. all these random gank corps.. BE, CELES, SAS, e-r etc etc i wouldnt even consider.. while opinions may vary on their ability (and yes you can guess mine isnt high of any of these), their style just wouldnt fit a proper alliance anyway.. so i wouldnt even bother arguing..
RAT - questionable style.. but undoubted skill Outbreak - only really experienced them once so far, but seemed decent.. i think they'd fit in and alliance, although some members atleast dont seem keen BDCI - not knowing the MC corp overly well.. i'm picking BDCI on the fact seleene is the face of MC mostly.. CE or SV - dont know the ins and outs of old G alliance, but these are the 2 names i heard of most.. and their organisation and dedication was always top notch TO BE ADDED WHEN I CAN THINK OF ONE
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.09.20 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Oh my word you couldnt stand 2 MAX!!!! weeks carebear period
You had 3 weeks between the IMP war and the current one. The IMP one you didn't even dec, you got decc'd. Stop with the two weeks bull****.
Don't make me comment on the rest of your post. You will look horribly stupid if I do.
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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.20 23:56:00 -
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Quote: TDG (minus lifewire's baby)
Hey! He is a fighter!!! You should see him when he doesnt get his milk in time!!!
Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
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MuadChef
Amarr Fate.
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Posted - 2006.09.21 00:28:00 -
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If someone hadnt invented lame blobbing and pos warfare then it would have to b..
Moo DIE (Fate was formed from many of the DIE members) RAT Tundragon Teddybears StealVipers (old school before d2)
I know its 6, but 4 of them r non existant..
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fugazii
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.21 00:40:00 -
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well alot of good guess's so far, but heres the answer on the best 5.
(in no particular order)
1 f-e, but that goes w/o saying tbh 2 stronghold corp, c4 days,..rupture fleet 4tw 3 udie, before and after they used wcs(and yes, they didnt always) 4 bos, c4/ca days 5 celest, always annoying, but always good.
now that ive answered the question, thread can be locked. good guess's all
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.09.21 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo i agree with nafri... great corps have great leaders.
d solo.
Dont know about that one...
I would say great corps have NO leaders.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.21 00:49:00 -
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The amusing thing about this thread is everyone quoting a predominance of corporations who, whilst capable at PvP, have a history of either working on their own, never being in an alliance or having joined and left multiple alliances.
No offence Darth but I am going to use you and yours as an example here, I'm sure you understand why.
I wouldn't make an alliance, to last and achieve "alliance-type" things, with Celes if they were the only other corp in Eve. They have friends and allies they work with but for one reason or another (none of which should be seen as derogatory towards them) they do not stay in an alliance for more than five minutes because it is not their style.
Hypothetical as this discussion may be the original question was very clear and asks which corps would make an alliance that makes you want to turn off Eve i.e. (as I interpret it) would be so good you couldn't compete. Most of the suggestions in this thread would fold within a month if they made an alliance.
Sadly I am not sure I know enough PvP corps that have the required characteristics to make an alliance work and be successful so whilst casting stones at 90% of the utterly ridiculous responses in this thread I am not sure I can come up with a better set of 5 corps.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.21 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: darth solo i agree with nafri... great corps have great leaders.
d solo.
Dont know about that one...
I would say great corps have NO leaders.
When you've been in a 'great corp' you can come back to us on that one then
Eve Blacklight Style
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GoGo Yubari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.21 01:07:00 -
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Hmm.
I love the NSN and TC guys. I'd fly with you again anyday.
BDCI, you rock. CONIN is earning more and more of my respect every passing day and they already have a lot of it, so don't take it the wrong way.
Outside of that: PAK is cool and outside of the usual choices. Outbreak sounds like a good place to be in. TAOSP, definately. Well, we shouldn't diverge into BoB corps, so I'll stop there.
That's the corps that come to my mind.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.21 01:08:00 -
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BOS ALL BOB Corps ALL MC Corps Sniggs ( Although i realy dont like em :P) OLD Hun Corp MLM KOS KIA
List is quite long
The rest are either new or use lame tactics , they still havent even passed the test of time . "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.21 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 21/09/2006 01:12:29 I agree with BL.
The game doesn't cater for a purely pvp based alliance. You can't really fight and do nothing else and call yourself an alliance. Being part of an alliance involves doing boring pos related stuff, erection, offence and defence. I can tell you right now Celes and Toxin hate all three things with a passion.
In theory its possible I guess. We've always made enough money to keep in tech II equipped ships and continue fighting indefinitely which is all we've ever wanted. If you could get 5 entities to do this and fly under one banner I guess you've got yourself a purely pvp alliance.
Thing is its never going to claim space and in many peoples opinions that makes the whole premise crap.
Hats off to BoB you've created an IGA empire and made it as 'pvp' as is possible given the games restrictions. You're playing the game as CCP intend, it's just that many of the corps mentioned in this thread do not harbour the same ideals.
It's a shame the game increasingly caters for alliance life and empire carebearing only but I guess it is proceeding in a logical manner.
We've always looked to test ourselves against the best and we're one of the most loathed corps in Eve as a result. In many ways we're very similar to the BoB corps, we're probably just playing for different reasons.
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Muthsera
S.A.S
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Posted - 2006.09.21 01:12:00 -
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Actually BL, Bad form to trash others suddestions and then not put forward your own. My 0.02ú
Rabble
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RichThugster
Gallente Revelations Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.21 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera Edited by: Muthsera on 21/09/2006 01:22:10 Actually BL, Bad form to trash others suddestions and then not put forward your own. My 0.02ú
yet trashing someones trashing, and then not putting your own suggestions forward isnt bad form?
Originally by: KIATolon
I just got owned
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Muthsera
S.A.S
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Posted - 2006.09.21 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: RichThugster
Originally by: Muthsera Edited by: Muthsera on 21/09/2006 01:22:10 Actually BL, Bad form to trash others suddestions and then not put forward your own. My 0.02ú
yet trashing someones trashing, and then not putting your own suggestions forward isnt bad form?
I made no premessis against the suggestions put forward.
Rabble
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/09/2006 05:33:44
Originally by: Blacklight The amusing thing about this thread is everyone quoting a predominance of corporations who, whilst capable at PvP, have a history of either working on their own, never being in an alliance or having joined and left multiple alliances.
Originally by: welsh wizard The game doesn't cater for a purely 'combat' based alliance. You can't really fight and do nothing else and call yourself an alliance. Being part of an alliance involves doing boring pos related stuff, erection, offence and defence.
Blacklight and Welsh win.
This is the reason I deleted my earlier reply. While I understand Rich's intent, the two replies above sum up my feelings very well. Nothing more to say on that really. However...
Originally by: Sandborn
CONIN joined MC. MC turned out to stand for Mining Coalition. CONIN left CONIN and formed Revelations Inc. The carebears stayed behind.
I'm trying real hard here not to rant and flame so I hope that explanation will due.
Ajay, I assume? Why rant at all? M8, you do realize that Trax and a lot of other MC really have no freakin' idea what you're on about us so much for, right?
I don't think I ever exchanged a single harsh word with you and most of the guys and girls in the other MC corps are not bothered or concerned with the drama that's unfolded within CONIN in the last few weeks.
The majority of people who left CONIN departed the MC amicably and that's good. As stated above by Blacklight and Welsh, the alliance life is not for everyone and we all understand that as we've seen it before. Sometimes things are not what you expect or people need a change and want to play the game differently. There's nothing wrong with that. Right?
So, seriously, we respect your decision to leave and wish you good luck. o/
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Dracolich
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight The amusing thing about this thread is everyone quoting a predominance of corporations who, whilst capable at PvP, have a history of either working on their own, never being in an alliance or having joined and left multiple alliances.
No offence Darth but I am going to use you and yours as an example here, I'm sure you understand why.
I wouldn't make an alliance, to last and achieve "alliance-type" things, with Celes if they were the only other corp in Eve. They have friends and allies they work with but for one reason or another (none of which should be seen as derogatory towards them) they do not stay in an alliance for more than five minutes because it is not their style.
Hypothetical as this discussion may be the original question was very clear and asks which corps would make an alliance that makes you want to turn off Eve i.e. (as I interpret it) would be so good you couldn't compete. Most of the suggestions in this thread would fold within a month if they made an alliance.
Sadly I am not sure I know enough PvP corps that have the required characteristics to make an alliance work and be successful so whilst casting stones at 90% of the utterly ridiculous responses in this thread I am not sure I can come up with a better set of 5 corps.
I think I'll have to agree with You on this one. However, the OP, as you well say, seeked the alliance that would make people not logon. OP didn't ask if that alliance was to last long or be successful in other areas than striking fear into the hearts of their enemy.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera We all know these treads are fanboi stuff. But I got to be honnest and say I actually quite like em. Not becus I take them so damn serius. But becus it gives an indication who preforms in the game and who doesn't. And yeah. We're so going to see so many of these favorite alliances actually male it ingame.. right. So you can all argue the premesis of the tread all you want. But does it really matter? Let ppl have their fun. Let them imagine who's who and who's not. Ones you log in the forum matter so little anyway.
Cheers guys.
Muthsera, I just wanted to say that I agree with the heart of your post as well. "Top 5" lists are indeed fanboi material, and yes it feels good to see your name on them. It's just that there are so many corps out there these days that don't get the credit they deserve and quietly change the game in ways that many of us never even realize.
Perhaps some of us take the OP question of an 'Alliance' too seriously. -
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Leo McGarry
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:44:00 -
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1. Goonfleet 2. Goonfleet 3. Goonfleet 4. Goonfleet 5. Goonfleet
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:49:00 -
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Leo, your sig seriously owns. -
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Leo McGarry
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Leo, your sig seriously owns.
All MSPaint baby
I'm quite the artist!
Any ladies want to do some nudes
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Dracolich
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sandborn
Originally by: Eno Arba Why does everyone say Pre- MC Conin
Give me a eve history lesson pls
CONIN joined MC. MC turned out to stand for Mining Coalition. CONIN left CONIN and formed Revelations Inc. The carebears stayed behind.
I'm trying real hard here not to rant and flame so I hope that explanation will due.
Even though I never mined myself, carebearing is the backbone of any successful PVP- corp/alliance. If you want a fleet of capital ships, you need alot of carebearing. That being said, MC is one of the most successful on the pvp-front, and still is, and will be for a long time(if not always). However, Conin was allowed to take contracts on their own between MC contracts, just leaving the alliance while it was lasted only to rejoin after. I guess they didn't.
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Forsaken Soul
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: Forsaken Soul on 21/09/2006 05:59:10
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Banditten
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.21 06:00:00 -
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Back when I started EVE Celestial Apocalypse was a really good PvP corp. I don't know their current state.
Today I'm rarely impressed by any corps at all, but maybe we've just been unlucky in our travels and not really come up against any good corps.
I'd have an easier time naming good pilots, but since there's 30K players now, nobody would know who they are anyway
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