they try to scoop when you initiate warp.

if they arent right next to you when you actually enter warp then the scoop fails naturally.

or maybe this is ONLY during a DC.

hmmmmm

Auto-scooping only happens when you DC.


As for forgetting one's drones...

- having the "drone return" command as a hotkey really helps.

- keeping your drone status box open (with no condensed bars) also helps you keep an eye on your drones

- did you know that if you "group" your drones (even if they are the only group in your drone bay) you can drag them back and forth between being deployed and in your ship? No right-clicking necessary!

Who hasn't warped away without one's drones?

Nobody, that's who. We all do it. And we even do it after having learned our lesson many times over. (Well some of us do. )

Anyhow, it would be nice if when we enact a warp sequence to leave, if there was some sort of tone that would alert us to the fact that our drones are still out. This would give us a few brief seconds to stop the warp initiation and retrieve our drones.

If it's a GTFOofDodge PVP situation, then you're prolly not going to wait for you hammerII's to crawl back as your hull evaporates. Your abandoned drones are my loot for winnning the field. If it's PVE then it doesn't matter, you can just come back and get them.

What razor edge case are you citing that this is needed for?? I hope it's not "Because I am forgetfull"

Shift+R

What razor edge case are you citing that this is needed for?? I hope it's not "Because I am forgetfull"

That's exactly the case he's citing.

I found it easier to remap that to Ctrl+R (which required remapping the reload shortcut) since Shift+R won't trigger as a shortcut if you were recently typing in a chat window. Once I remapped this, I no longer leave drones behind since the shortcut triggers every time.

I make a lot of money scopping abandoned drones off the field when a fight is over.

Oh, OK fair enough.

Then NO, because auto correcting your forgetfulness would get rid of my ability to collect muh victory drones.

Can confirm that I love finding abandoned drones and fighters in 00 and lowsec when the ratting carriers and ishtars all panic warp as soon as a neut enters local. So funny. And pretty profitable.

Well, this is one of those quality of life features that CCP does like to put into the game to make it a more enjoyable experience for people.

I'm largely speaking about PvE, and yes simply forgetting them. I do this enough, but always remember soon after (like during warp or once I get to station) and then have to go back to get them. It's just aggravating. Occasionally I've entirely forgotten them prior to warping to station and logging off.

So the question is, who does CCP want to please more. Those who forget their valuable drones, when a simple reminder (tone) would alleviate that (which an advanced spaceship is likely to give you), or those who profit from someone forgetting their drones because their supremely advanced spaceship couldn't remind them that they still have drones deployed before they warp away. By-the-way, most people will remember them prior to your ever finding them (in a PvE environment).

As for PvP, it's not going to matter if someone is in a get out of dodge situation and gets a tone reminding them of deployed drones. They are going to get out of dodge regardless.

I should also add the obligatory "EVE has sound??" quote.

hint: any player worth their salt turns off sounds so they are not bothered by a plethora of other "tones" and ringings that happen for other reasons. Plus, in-game sounds get in the way of voice chatting with other players.

Well, this is one of those quality of life features that CCP does like to put into the game to make it a more enjoyable experience for people.

I'm largely speaking about PvE, and yes simply forgetting them. I do this enough, but always remember soon after (like during warp or once I get to station) and then have to go back to get them. It's just aggravating. Occasionally I've entirely forgotten them prior to warping to station and logging off.

So the question is, who does CCP want to please more. Those who forget their valuable drones, when a simple reminder (tone) would alleviate that (which an advanced spaceship is likely to give you), or those who profit from someone forgetting their drones because their supremely advanced spaceship couldn't remind them that they still have drones deployed before they warp away. By-the-way, most people will remember them prior to your ever finding them (in a PvE environment).

As for PvP, it's not going to matter if someone is in a get out of dodge situation and gets a tone reminding them of deployed drones. They are going to get out of dodge regardless.

How many drones does a person have to forget before they consider that maybe it's time to work on a new warp-out routine that will prevent further drone loss? I mean, why should CCP do anything about solving your problem if you aren't willing to do anything about solving it either?

Based on your premise the odds are you'll forget that you made this post anyway.

I should also add the obligatory "EVE has sound??" quote.

hint: any player worth their salt turns off sounds so they are not bothered by a plethora of other "tones" and ringings that happen for other reasons. Plus, in-game sounds get in the way of voice chatting with other players.

I mean, why should CCP do anything about solving your problem if you aren't willing to do anything about solving it either?

I think it will be easyer that when u start warp drones automaticaly begin returning to drone bay.If it succes or not depends just on how far they are,how fast they fly vs how fast u can warp.

So if u dieing in mission in frigate and click warp,drones began to return but u warp out faster then they can reach you.

Not a bad idea as well.

Speaking of drones, I'd like to set them to not orbit me but sit stationary near my ship. I think that'd be even cooler than the orbiting. (Well except to the people - who troll F&I - that hate making EVE cooler. ) Perhaps I'll make a new post.

Did you try my 'put a pen in your eye' trick to see if that keeps you from forgetting?

What do you do when your mother doesn't cut your sammich in half at lunch time? I have so many questions for you, I just don't know where to begin.

You're drone beep thing will make your play cooler. Your beep idea will add just one more thing that annoys the playing of my game. I guess it's your lack of empathy that is most disturbing, but then again, when one is at the center of the universe... what purpose would empathy server?

Now when did I say this reminder tone would be mandatory? Like with most such changes or additions to the game, I believe in there being 'options'. Surely if they program this in,they can also program in a checkbox to choose whether it's on or off.

Here's a better idea, learn to remember ****.

This is a light-years more advanced civilization than our own. Such a reminder tone would be the least of the capabilities incorporated into our ships.

This may come as a big surprise to all of you nay-sayers questioning my mental acuity, but it's actually been AGES since I've ever left any drones behind. (Despite my allusion to doing so). It was certainly a much greater problem when I was a newer player. The last couple times I've almost warped away without my drones, I realized in enough time to stop the warp sequence and retrieve them.

What spurred my idea post was the last time I did nearly forget and recalling how that was a big frustration and headache when I was new to the game, before it became something that was more second-nature.

I'm sure there are those who do still accidentally leave drones behind, and it's certainly a problem among newer players for who CCP has a vested interest in reducing the frustration of (despite their competing desire to please wicked-vets who like to prey on the inexperience and misfortunes of noobs).

I suspect in CCP's eyes, reducing player frustration (and particularly new player frustration) trumps the joy you may infrequently have at finding abandoned drones.

This is a light-years more advanced civilization than our own. Such a reminder tone would be the least of the capabilities incorporated into our ships.

Ahh, we've finally gotten to the stage where you claim that this isn't a problem for you, but you want this for the newbies...

Denial and bargaining at once, as is typical in this stage of the process. Soon will come the acceptance that you've come up with a bad idea, and this thread can finally die.

I must condemn this assertion. The wormhole jump sound and the warp arrival sounds are immensely useful tools for maintaining situational awareness.

Well I couldn't care less what you think. Let's just say I forget my drones EVERY time I launch them. Often immediately after I've launched them. Does that make you feel better?

However the point still stands and is entirely valid. If this reduces player frustration (which it would), at the expense of your occasionally benefiting from someone accidentally leaving drones behind, CCP will consider it a valuable addition to the game. I'm not here to convince you that it would be, but rather CCP.

If they think it makes sense and would add value to the game, particularly for a key audience (new players they wish to retain), while having minimal impact on existing players enjoyment (as I believe this would despite your protestations), then they will wish to implement it.

... would you like to continue attempting to use lore as a justification for your pants-on-head ridiculous idea?

Game development of any kind is not free and the ROI is simply not there in this case. HTFU and learn to recall your drones. It's not an unreasonable situation.

At this point I must insist you study this guide and learn how to stop posting so badly.

I'm sure they appreciate your expert advice regarding it, but I think we can leave CCP to decide on the value and ROI of implementing any change or new functionality to their game.

Well I couldn't care less what you think.

they try to scoop when you initiate warp.

So it's okay when you make decisions about what CCP will say or do, but anyone else should leave it to CCP.

...and yet you posted here in F&I.

ISD, I think we've had enough.

Well I couldn't care less what you think. Let's just say I forget my drones EVERY time I launch them. Often immediately after I've launched them. Does that make you feel better?

However the point still stands and is entirely valid. If this reduces player frustration (which it would), at the expense of your occasionally benefiting from someone accidentally leaving drones behind, CCP will consider it a valuable addition to the game. I'm not here to convince you that it would be, but rather CCP.

If they think it makes sense and would add value to the game, particularly for a key audience (new players they wish to retain), while having minimal impact on existing players enjoyment (as I believe this would despite your protestations), then they will wish to implement it.

I guess you speak for ISD now as well. Are you the official thread derailer? I've noticed an exceedingly high number of such engagements by you.

Wouldn't it be funny though if after your suggestion to ISD, if they gave YOU a time-out.

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