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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.16 20:25:09 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ... ... and barely anyone gets it.
I got it and laughed.
It was funnier when other posters didn't get it! |
Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2015.01.16 21:48:41 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Ignoring the fact that... Nevermind. Here's my simple recreation without all the effects. I tried my best to replicate the angle, but it was quite hard. Here's the splash again.Now, Provence, Bantams are not the Frigate featured in the splash. They're in my render here, so compare if you wish. I gave them benefit of an exaggerated angle, but it still doesn't work. Sorry it took so long, but I guess there's nothing 'quick' about 3D. Thrawn, models may have changed, but they are still recognisable. Nowadays, when old model are changed, they are re-imagined, but with these models (as you can see from the station), they just gain complexity. It is the Federation Navy Comet, the ship that you are looking for. Nothing compares to it in uniqueness, really.
Well, part of the reason it doesn't work is you have the Bantams facing away from us rather than towards us. Turning them 90 degrees to the right would position them in the direction the ships are flying in the original image.
For clarification's sake, the 'mystery ships' in the original box art are flying on a course roughly (though lot perfectly, they're turned a little more towards the camera) parallel to the large, protruding antennae array that juts out from the station. The Bantams in your rendering, on the other hand, are flying on a course to intersect that array, which highlights, rather than screens, their long bridge structure.
The give-away for this is the direction of the engine emission effects, which are totally illogical if the ships are turned the way you have them.
I'm not saying you should go to the trouble of re-rendering the image, but it's not accurate. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.01.16 22:51:14 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ... ... and barely anyone gets it. For all those that did not get this reference from the rich history of EvE, but also for all those who did and want to take a trip down memory lane, it all started here....
The fact that it took 7 full pages for that to be locked...
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2015.01.16 23:05:01 -
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I went ahead and took the liberty of buying a Bantam simply because I do not 3D model myself, but wanted some visual evidence of my own. Here, again, is the original box art.
Here's a shot of my Bantam at a distance, flying in (basically; within a few degrees) the same direction as those on the box art.
Here's a comparison shot of major components. (Note that I used MS Paint to simply cut and up-scale the original photo. There have been no enhancements done -- it is the same, blurry image).
3D rendering is useful, but I'd argue that photographic analysis is ultimately the more truthful science given that it deals with the facts as they exist, rather than the facts as we see them. |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
488
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Posted - 2015.01.16 23:15:25 -
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Provence Tristram wrote:I went ahead and took the liberty of buying a Bantam simply because I do not 3D model myself, but wanted some visual evidence of my own. Here, again, is the original box art.Here's a shot of a Bantam at a distance, flying (basically; within a few degrees) in the same direction as those on the box art. Here's a comparison shot of major components. (Note that I used MS Paint to simply cut and up-scale the original photo. There have been no enhancements done -- it is the same, blurry image). 3D rendering is useful, but I'd argue that photographic analysis is ultimately the more truthful science given that it deals with the facts as they exist, rather than the facts as we see them. I was actually going to look at them in-game, but I would have been wrong in my analysis anyway. I didn't realise that they would look like that facing towards the camera. I had it in my mind that the ship would obscure the exhaust.
Thank you, for clarifying that.
I guess that makes more sense now as well, because the Bantams are flying to attack the Comets. My thought process was like: engine trails = direction-of-travel
But thanks again. |
Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2015.01.16 23:17:52 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Provence Tristram wrote:I went ahead and took the liberty of buying a Bantam simply because I do not 3D model myself, but wanted some visual evidence of my own. Here, again, is the original box art.Here's a shot of a Bantam at a distance, flying (basically; within a few degrees) in the same direction as those on the box art. Here's a comparison shot of major components. (Note that I used MS Paint to simply cut and up-scale the original photo. There have been no enhancements done -- it is the same, blurry image). 3D rendering is useful, but I'd argue that photographic analysis is ultimately the more truthful science given that it deals with the facts as they exist, rather than the facts as we see them. I was actually going to look at them in-game, but I would have been wrong in my analysis anyway. I didn't realise that they would look like that facing towards the camera. I had it in my mind that the ship would obscure the exhaust. Thank you, for clarifying that. I guess that makes more sense now as well, because the Bantams are flying to attack the Comets. My thought process was like: engine trails = direction-of-travel But thanks again.
No problem. Satelite photographic analysis is a hobby of mine, and I think a number of the skills transfer. Everything else about your rendering was bang-on. |
Darren Airtex
Born Imperialism Defiant Legacy
8
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Posted - 2015.01.16 23:45:28 -
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I have the same box set in my closet, still got everything that came with it. I also have the Prima's Official Strategy Guide for EVE Online. From the ship pictures in the book I have that fish shaped ship is a Ibis.
Sorry I am unable to post pictures at present I do not have a camera.
Book info: ISBN : 0-7615-4243-4 Library of Congress Catalog Card Number : 2003100532 Printed in the United States of America 03 04 05 06 BB 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
Printed in 2003 by Prima Games a division of Random House, Inc. |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
312
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Posted - 2015.01.17 00:43:04 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ... ... and barely anyone gets it. For all those that did not get this reference from the rich history of EvE, but also for all those who did and want to take a trip down memory lane, it all started here.... The fact that it took 7 full pages for that to be locked... ... indicates that forum moderation was better back then? Like everything else?
/bittervet
#discussingmoderation #banhammerinbound |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.17 08:28:52 -
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Also for the information the ships attacking the station, does carry the GF-PD logo.
And then just for the sake of it http://eve-files.com/chribba/eve_boxes.jpg
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Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2015.01.17 08:49:20 -
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I was always partial to the rifter version, even though I hate the ship. |
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
312
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Posted - 2015.01.18 02:04:31 -
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I have the two on the right! Does that mean I'm half as cool as Chribba? |
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
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Posted - 2015.01.18 02:17:38 -
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:I have the two on the right! Does that mean I'm half as cool as Chribba?
Only if you have a Mac.
"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
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Vector Symian
0 Fear
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Posted - 2015.01.18 02:35:37 -
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Provence Tristram wrote:Solecist Project wrote:its a templar, an amarr fighter used by carriers. Looks more like a Federation Navy Comet to me. And that's definitely what it is -- you can tell based on the positioning of the engines, the wings, and the ridge running down the ship's spine. Very clear. Thrawn Armidious wrote:That is what it looks like, but those were not pilot-able at release either... It seems really odd that they would have an NPC ship on the cover... Lots of games do that, though. They dump a bunch of visuals -- screenshots, design art, rough models, etc. -- into the hands of the art department, and those are the guys who put together the box art. It's far less important that it be 100% reflective of the gameplay experienced by the player than something eye-catching. And for the record, I still buy boxed copies of my games whenever possible.
The joke Sol was attempting was any time any one asks .."what ship is that?" the answer is Templar, capital ship drone no matter what ship it actually is
It is similar to the "what song is that?" being Derude sandstorm in youtube
inside joke basically
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Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2015.01.18 07:19:57 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ... ... and barely anyone gets it. Dude... your face?
Share your experience
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www.eve-tribune.com
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Varathius
Blood Fountain Massacre LOADED-DICE
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Posted - 2015.01.18 19:16:54 -
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Thrawn Armidious wrote:Back when video games came in boxes... and way back when Eve was $50, I bought the aforementioned game and saved the box. While I was out of town my wife redecorated my room and took a bunch of these boxes down to Kinkos or what ever and had them copied onto black matte. Long story short, I have a copy of the original Eve Online box directly to the right of my computer. And it is driving me crazy. What is that fish shaped ship in the picture, and what type of station is it that the fish is shooting at? A link to the picture for to help. http://www.eve-tribune.com/2_29/Eve-OnlineHistory1_2.png
I remember that box, when Arnold Schwarzenegger was still doing publicity for CCP. |
Hal Morsh
Icendus Corux Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2015.01.18 19:58:37 -
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Varathius wrote:Thrawn Armidious wrote:Back when video games came in boxes... and way back when Eve was $50, I bought the aforementioned game and saved the box. While I was out of town my wife redecorated my room and took a bunch of these boxes down to Kinkos or what ever and had them copied onto black matte. Long story short, I have a copy of the original Eve Online box directly to the right of my computer. And it is driving me crazy. What is that fish shaped ship in the picture, and what type of station is it that the fish is shooting at? A link to the picture for to help. http://www.eve-tribune.com/2_29/Eve-OnlineHistory1_2.png I remember that box, when Arnold Schwarzenegger was still doing publicity for CCP.
Shephard.
CCP - Outpost code is scary.
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Solecist Project
Weapons of Mass Distraction
19648
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Posted - 2015.01.18 19:59:38 -
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Arnold Schwarzenegger? For CCP?
What?
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Scifi
High Life Industries The Black Sails
4
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:32:47 -
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Varathius wrote:Thrawn Armidious wrote:Back when video games came in boxes... and way back when Eve was $50, I bought the aforementioned game and saved the box. While I was out of town my wife redecorated my room and took a bunch of these boxes down to Kinkos or what ever and had them copied onto black matte. Long story short, I have a copy of the original Eve Online box directly to the right of my computer. And it is driving me crazy. What is that fish shaped ship in the picture, and what type of station is it that the fish is shooting at? A link to the picture for to help. http://www.eve-tribune.com/2_29/Eve-OnlineHistory1_2.png I remember that box, when Arnold Schwarzenegger was still doing publicity for CCP.
[Arnold voice] IT'S NOT A TEMPLAH! |
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