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Thrawn Armidious
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Posted - 2015.01.16 10:45:59 -
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Back when video games came in boxes... and way back when Eve was $50, I bought the aforementioned game and saved the box.
While I was out of town my wife redecorated my room and took a bunch of these boxes down to Kinkos or what ever and had them copied onto black matte.
Long story short, I have a copy of the original Eve Online box directly to the right of my computer.
And it is driving me crazy.
What is that fish shaped ship in the picture, and what type of station is it that the fish is shooting at?
A link to the picture for to help.
http://www.eve-tribune.com/2_29/Eve-OnlineHistory1_2.png |

Solecist Project
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Posted - 2015.01.16 10:51:02 -
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its a templar, an amarr fighter used by carriers.
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Xylem Viliana
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Posted - 2015.01.16 10:51:12 -
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Thrawn Armidious wrote:Back when video games came in boxes... and way back when Eve was $50, I bought the aforementioned game and saved the box. While I was out of town my wife redecorated my room and took a bunch of these boxes down to Kinkos or what ever and had them copied onto black matte. Long story short, I have a copy of the original Eve Online box directly to the right of my computer. And it is driving me crazy. What is that fish shaped ship in the picture, and what type of station is it that the fish is shooting at? A link to the picture for to help. http://www.eve-tribune.com/2_29/Eve-OnlineHistory1_2.png Looks like some of the caldari stations and possibly a navy comet or brutish. I think the lia dia stations are that design. |

Godfrey Silvarna
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Posted - 2015.01.16 10:51:41 -
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The ship is obviously a Navy Comet. |

Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2015.01.16 10:56:00 -
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Caldari logistics station.
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Thrawn Armidious
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Posted - 2015.01.16 11:01:48 -
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Solecist Project wrote:its a templar, an amarr fighter used by carriers.
That did not exsist at release.
Quote:The ship is obviously a Navy Comet.
That is what it looks like, but those were not pilot-able at release either... It seems really odd that they would have an NPC ship on the cover...
Quote: Caldari logistics station.
I thought it looked Caldari but for some reason I remember it being Minmatar when I saw it in game so many years ago. That model has been replaced right? |

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.16 11:29:18 -
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Thrawn Armidious wrote:Quote: Caldari logistics station. I thought it looked Caldari but for some reason I remember it being Minmatar when I saw it in game so many years ago. That model has been replaced right? Definitely Caldari. It's still there in game, I think the model might have been slightly improved upon. But it still maintains the figure. Here it is, see? |

Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.16 11:37:59 -
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Solecist Project wrote:its a templar, an amarr fighter used by carriers.
Looks more like a Federation Navy Comet to me. And that's definitely what it is -- you can tell based on the positioning of the engines, the wings, and the ridge running down the ship's spine. Very clear.
Thrawn Armidious wrote:That is what it looks like, but those were not pilot-able at release either... It seems really odd that they would have an NPC ship on the cover...
Lots of games do that, though. They dump a bunch of visuals -- screenshots, design art, rough models, etc. -- into the hands of the art department, and those are the guys who put together the box art. It's far less important that it be 100% reflective of the gameplay experienced by the player than something eye-catching.
And for the record, I still buy boxed copies of my games whenever possible. |

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Posted - 2015.01.16 11:39:07 -
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Thrawn Armidious wrote:Solecist Project wrote:its a templar, an amarr fighter used by carriers. That did not exsist at release.
Someone should read up on epic forum posts of the past.
It's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
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Posted - 2015.01.16 11:52:05 -
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Flight of two Federation Navy Comets (flying with an Intaki logo?)
And what I think is two Imicus hulls. Although, it's way too blurry to tell properly.
However, there's no mistaking the Comets in the foreground. |

Solecist Project
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Posted - 2015.01.16 11:54:50 -
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Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ... ... and barely anyone gets it.
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
The Cuppy Cake Song <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D
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Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.16 11:56:07 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Flight of two Federation Navy Comets (flying with an Intaki logo?) And what I think is two Imicus hulls.
Wow, I couldn't even see them in the OP's blurry image. Those, I believe, are Bantams, rushing to defend the station. The give-away is the positioning of the engines relative to the profile. |

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.16 12:05:31 -
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Provence Tristram wrote:Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Flight of two Federation Navy Comets (flying with an Intaki logo?) And what I think is two Imicus hulls. Wow, I couldn't even see them in the OP's blurry image. Those, I believe, are Bantams, rushing to defend the station. The give-away is the positioning of the engines relative to the profile. Nuh uh. I had thought the same thing with a few various Frigate hulls, but it's not the Bantam.
These ships have quite distinct upper and lower thrusters. The ships in the picture have a more let's say 'complete' hull than what the Bantam does. And there seems to be no frontal bridge on these ships either.
While it's very hard to tell, it's easy to rule out some. Unless, of course, the 2003 model Bantam looks quite different in profile to what it does now. Then I'd be wrong. I'm not sure it's the Imicus, but yeah, personally I can't see it being the Bantam even from a extreme perspective view. |

Thrawn Armidious
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Posted - 2015.01.16 13:06:41 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Thrawn Armidious wrote:Quote: Caldari logistics station. I thought it looked Caldari but for some reason I remember it being Minmatar when I saw it in game so many years ago. That model has been replaced right? Definitely Caldari. It's still there in game, I think the model might have been slightly improved upon. But it still maintains the figure. Here it is, see?
Any idea where one still exists in game? I looked at a few logistics stations near Jita but couldn't find one shaped like that.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Unless, of course, the 2003 model Bantam looks quite different in profile to what it does now. Then I'd be wrong. I'm not sure it's the Imicus, but yeah, personally I can't see it being the Bantam even from a extreme perspective view.
This is my biggest issue with the whole hunt. So many ships and models have changed how is it even possible to be sure?
I will say that if you look up a navy comet in game you can move the camera around so it looks exactly like that image.
Once I have this all figured out the next step, of course, is to recreate the image. Is the currently agreed upon Comet using Lasers? |

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.16 13:08:25 -
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Ok, ok. Just hang on. I'll replicate the entire scene in 3D space for you.
It'll take about 30 minutes, or longer. Please be patient. |

Sirinda
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Posted - 2015.01.16 13:15:33 -
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Looks like blasters to me, but as they added proper gun turret you might as well go with rails. Shrug. |

Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.16 13:29:08 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Ok, ok. Just hang on. I'll replicate the entire scene in 3D space for you.
It'll take about 30 minutes, or longer. Please be patient.
I still think they're Bantams. They're turned enough towards the camera that the protruding cockpit may be indistinguishable against the background of the remainder of the ship.
It's also entirely possible that -- as I pointed out earlier -- the image is a result of alpha or beta-level artwork and that those vessels never even existed in the game. But I think the Bantam is still the most likely culprit for three reasons: A) the placement of the main bank of engines, B) the presence of the wing structure on the starboard (image left) side of the hull (which would be wrong for the Imicus, but perfectly fits the Bantam, particularly if the other wing is masked from view by the hull), and C) the bulky lower portion of the ship protruding prominently. |

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.16 13:31:41 -
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Provence Tristram wrote:Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Ok, ok. Just hang on. I'll replicate the entire scene in 3D space for you.
It'll take about 30 minutes, or longer. Please be patient. I still think they're Bantams. They're turned enough towards the camera that the protruding cockpit may be indistinguishable against the background of the remainder of the ship. It's also entirely possible that -- as I pointed out earlier -- the image is a result of alpha or beta-level artwork and that those vessels never even existed in the game. But I think the Bantam is still the most likely culprit for three reasons: A) the placement of the main bank of engines, B) the presence of the wing structure on the starboard (image left) side of the hull (which would be wrong for the Imicus, but perfectly fits the Bantam, particularly if the other wing is masked from view by the hull), and C) the bulky lower portion of the ship protruding prominently. I'll render this one first, and then go back and add Bantams to the scene. |

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Posted - 2015.01.16 13:49:59 -
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Solecist Project wrote:its a templar, an amarr fighter used by carriers. You got a better eye than I, my friend. I was gonna say, "What fish??"
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.16 13:58:22 -
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Gah. What a bore.
"Just 30 minutes" she said. "It won't be long" she said.
All for an extremely basic rendition.. |

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.16 14:23:03 -
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Ignoring the fact that... Nevermind.
Here's my simple recreation without all the effects. I tried my best to replicate the angle, but it was quite hard.
Here's the splash again.
Now, Provence, Bantams are not the Frigate featured in the splash. They're in my render here, so compare if you wish. I gave them benefit of an exaggerated angle, but it still doesn't work.
Sorry it took so long, but I guess there's nothing 'quick' about 3D.
Thrawn, models may have changed, but they are still recognisable. Nowadays, when old model are changed, they are re-imagined, but with these models (as you can see from the station), they just gain complexity. It is the Federation Navy Comet, the ship that you are looking for. Nothing compares to it in uniqueness, really. |

Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 14:24:46 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ... ... and barely anyone gets it. I hear ya. Sheesh, noobs these days...  |

Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 14:28:38 -
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Thrawn Armidious wrote:Any idea where one still exists in game? I looked at a few logistics stations near Jita but couldn't find one shaped like that. Try Motsu. I think the CN or CPF station there (the one with the L4 agent) has that model. Might be wrong though, been a while since I've actually been there. |

Abyss Azizora
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Posted - 2015.01.16 14:30:19 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ... ... and barely anyone gets it.
*Yells from across the room "I get it!"* |

Thrawn Armidious
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Posted - 2015.01.16 14:43:09 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Ignoring the fact that... Nevermind. Here's my simple recreation without all the effects. I tried my best to replicate the angle, but it was quite hard. Here's the splash again.Now, Provence, Bantams are not the Frigate featured in the splash. They're in my render here, so compare if you wish. I gave them benefit of an exaggerated angle, but it still doesn't work. Sorry it took so long, but I guess there's nothing 'quick' about 3D. Thrawn, models may have changed, but they are still recognisable. Nowadays, when old model are changed, they are re-imagined, but with these models (as you can see from the station), they just gain complexity. It is the Federation Navy Comet, the ship that you are looking for. Nothing compares to it in uniqueness, really.
That looks really good, thanks for putting it together.
Some models do flat out change though, like the recent change to the Falcon/Blackbird. I know there were alot of models from 2003 that just simply don't exist any more. I still can't find the station in game. All the logistics stations use the "research station" model. |

T8497
Torguemada
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Posted - 2015.01.16 14:44:37 -
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I was always more concerned about the moon **** on the cover. |

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.16 14:59:14 -
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Thrawn Armidious wrote:Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Ignoring the fact that... Nevermind. Here's my simple recreation without all the effects. I tried my best to replicate the angle, but it was quite hard. Here's the splash again.Now, Provence, Bantams are not the Frigate featured in the splash. They're in my render here, so compare if you wish. I gave them benefit of an exaggerated angle, but it still doesn't work. Sorry it took so long, but I guess there's nothing 'quick' about 3D. Thrawn, models may have changed, but they are still recognisable. Nowadays, when old model are changed, they are re-imagined, but with these models (as you can see from the station), they just gain complexity. It is the Federation Navy Comet, the ship that you are looking for. Nothing compares to it in uniqueness, really. That looks really good, thanks for putting it together. Some models do flat out change though, like the recent change to the Falcon/Blackbird. I know there were alot of models from 2003 that just simply don't exist any more. I still can't find the station in game. All the logistics stations use the "research station" model. You can check it by doing a show info on a system and then a show info on the stations, then clicking the image. All the logistics stations use a sort of "A" shape now. Ok, it's really late and I've gotta go to work in 3 hours, but here's a Logistics Station like the one in the picture:
Nonni III - Home Guard Testing Facilities
Good luck |

Thrawn Armidious
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Posted - 2015.01.16 15:01:49 -
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Nice! There it is!
Ferni is a master researcher! |

ISD Ezwal
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Posted - 2015.01.16 15:47:53 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ... ... and barely anyone gets it. For all those that did not get this reference from the rich history of EvE, but also for all those who did and want to take a trip down memory lane, it all started here....
Edit: And thank you Ferni Ka'Nviiou for the work you did on the render. Appreciated!
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2015.01.16 15:49:37 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ... ... and barely anyone gets it. For all those that did not get this reference from the rich history of EvE, but also for all those who did and want to take a trip down memory lane, it all started here....  Edit: And thank you Ferni Ka'Nviiou for the work you did on the render. Appreciated! *kinks*
Thank you for making me laugh, ISD Ezwal...
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The Cuppy Cake Song <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D
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