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Provence Tristram Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 32	Posted - 2015.01.17 03:01:18 - [1] - Quote I realize that the issue of ship interiors has been something of a mild sticking point for a long time (I can remember reading the back-and-forths on whether or not there were even crews), but I was wondering if there are any concept art out there of the ships' interiors? Not anything necessarily vessel-specific, mind you, but just something to give a person an idea of theming? And I know we get kind of a mild taste of racial interiors based on the walkable portions of the stations, but it's one small room, and I'm left wanting to see more (particularly of the bridges). Anyone know of any good repository for this kind of stuff that I could browse through (if it even exists)?
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 7549	Posted - 2015.01.17 03:03:46 - [2] - Quote There are representations of the pod section of ships around. Everything else is not important and should be beneath your interest as a pod pilot. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Provence Tristram Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 32	Posted - 2015.01.17 03:09:06 - [3] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: There are representations of the pod section of ships around. Everything else is not important and should be beneath your interest as a pod pilot. Mr Epeen Well, I guess I'm interested. I mean, do you think the Pod pilots never do anything in their ships even when in station? We clearly deign to get out of our pods and walk around, so I assume in safe environments, we tend to stretch our legs a little. What's more, I like to think that a holographic projection of us might actually walk the decks even while our physical minds and bodies stay locked within our claustrophobic little cocoon.
Kyle Veldspar Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.01.17 03:50:12 - [4] - Quote Eh, I don't know. If you looked at a cross section of my ship all you'd see is a bunch of fedos gettin' it on in the crawl spaces and the secret spot where I stash all of my asteroid erotica.
Masato Andris Empyreal Paradox 3	Posted - 2015.01.17 03:52:06 - [5] - Quote There was an Algos cutaway image in EVE Source. A quick google search will probably turn it up.
Gleb Koskov Hedion University Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2015.01.17 04:05:08 - [6] - Quote For SoE interiors just walk into an Apple store or something.
Provence Tristram Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 32	Posted - 2015.01.17 04:10:35 - [7] - Quote Gleb Koskov wrote: For SoE interiors just walk into an Apple store or something. Lol. That's... in all likelihood accurate.
Miko Valentine KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 27	Posted - 2015.01.19 11:25:07 - [8] - Quote all of the Ships are Gigantic a Frigate for Example is 10-15 times bigger than the single Pilot Fighters in every other Scifi flic , and when i sit in my Domi Mega or Rattler i dont want to imagine that only ME is in the ship wich is twice as big as the average enterprise wich has a 1000man crew xD so where is my crew keeping my ship alive ?

CCP Falcon 10330	Posted - 2015.01.19 11:44:47 - [9] - Quote This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! CCP Falcon \|\| Community Manager \|\| @CCP_Falcon Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 8560	Posted - 2015.01.19 11:48:17 - [10] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes. absolutely yes Include graphs like the damage one dropped it reddit a and pawn it off as a concord report or something. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Badel Jramodarr 5310	Posted - 2015.01.19 11:53:51 - [11] - Quote +1 for technical backstory and ship layouts and the rest of Falcons words.... here's another +1 just to be sure I don't always have a signature; but when I do, it doesn't say anything at all ...I'm on a horse
Yourmoney Mywallet Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation 312	Posted - 2015.01.19 11:55:06 - [12] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! short anyswer: yes! long answer: f*ck yes!
Provence Tristram Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 45	Posted - 2015.01.19 11:56:27 - [13] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! First, awesome. Second, absolutely. Are you talking about something like an EVE version of this? Because, frankly, that was like my Bible for 4-5 years in Jr. High/High School. I think anyone with even the mildest interest in the lore would want to know more about the ships... how they fly... what their crew compliments are... where they were first designed... what their interiors look like... what life aboard them is like. Yeah, I'd fork over $20-$30 for something like that. No question.
Ro Fenrios Armilies corporation Skeleton Crew. 42	Posted - 2015.01.19 12:19:14 - [14] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes! +2
Lachesiss Jovian Vengeance The Jovian Federation 31	Posted - 2015.01.19 12:20:39 - [15] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! YES!!! YES!! YES!!!!!!! erm got a bit excited then
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1021	Posted - 2015.01.19 12:21:51 - [16] - Quote Long as it doesn't steal away from the development cycle, go for it. Yaay!!!!
Dunamis55 Pink Fluffy Bunny Slippers Northern Associates. 5	Posted - 2015.01.19 12:24:05 - [17] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! If this included images of ships done like this image: http://history.nasa.gov/diagrams/sk001a.gif then I would be extremely interested.
Omnathious Deninard Novis Initiis 2684	Posted - 2015.01.19 12:46:11 - [18] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes please!
Dradis Aulmais By Light and Banner's Fallen 635	Posted - 2015.01.19 13:21:21 - [19] - Quote I would like that but I would be happier if mommy let me out of my captain quarters
Ruskarn Andedare Lion Investments 692	Posted - 2015.01.19 13:24:30 - [20] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Very much YES!
Leannor Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates. 61	Posted - 2015.01.19 13:31:53 - [21] - Quote totally would ... :) Though, can guarantee it would not even come close to my imagination of me inside my ships. Still, it'd be cool to have. :) "Lykouleon wrote: STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 647	Posted - 2015.01.19 13:43:32 - [22] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! I'm throwing money at my phone right now. Vote Sabriz!
Jacob Holland Weyland-Vulcan Industries 360	Posted - 2015.01.19 13:49:04 - [23] - Quote Provence Tristram wrote: This picture makes me wonder about the larger ships even more. Do battleships come equipped with all kinds of quality of life amenities for the crew? IE, a Dominix comes with a full 'Ten Forward' style bar/strip club, natural-type (rocks, steam, plants, waterfalls) swimming pool, and meditation gardens; your average Apocalypse has a slave death arena, 'sins of the flesh' officer's club, and grand internal chapel/cathedral? The cathederal specifically was suggested as one of the primary reasons Caldari ships are so much smaller than Amarr (particularly at the BS level). The Caldari ships have crew ammeneties akin to those of a coffin hotel whereas the Amarr ship would have to have several chapels, cathederals...etc (because Amarr society is quite stratified and one can't expect a crewman from a Holder family to attend the same church as a freed slave (let alone the actual slaves aboard - who also need space to worship/be educated as to their proper place in the world).
Ahmazzan Coldlight Solutions 5	Posted - 2015.01.19 13:51:11 - [24] - Quote That sounds awesome. +1 and $OLD!
Memphis Baas 71	Posted - 2015.01.19 14:27:25 - [25] - Quote Would buy.
Indahmawar Fazmarai 3665	Posted - 2015.01.19 14:29:07 - [26] - Quote Provence Tristram wrote: I realize that the issue of ship interiors has been something of a mild sticking point for a long time (I can remember reading the back-and-forths on whether or not there were even crews), but I was wondering if there are any concept art out there of the ships' interiors? Not anything necessarily vessel-specific, mind you, but just something to give a person an idea of theming? And I know we get kind of a mild taste of racial interiors based on the walkable portions of the stations, but it's one small room, and I'm left wanting to see more (particularly of the bridges). Anyone know of any good repository for this kind of stuff that I could browse through (if it even exists)? They don't exist not even as a concept. EVE ships are just empty shells which look pretty ("design is the function") and so there is no need to figure what's inside or how do they work. Of course, that job can be done retroactively, but personally I would not recommend it. "It looks cool" is quite incompatible with "it makes sense". I mean, how large would be the ammuniton magazines of ships firing artillery shells 1,400 mm wide and 16.2 milimeters long for a volume of 0.025 cubic meters? (I guess they fire them as killer frisbies...) The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! Ingame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar
Inef Tesseract Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2015.01.19 14:38:27 - [27] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes!
Danko1978 Astral Plane Inc 4	Posted - 2015.01.19 14:41:30 - [28] - Quote +1.000.000 !!! Yes !!!!!! Please do it ...!!!!! Eve is a rich universe with huge oportunities for all kinds of fiction development in many forms of art ... and we need it... !!!
Adela Talvanen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 122	Posted - 2015.01.19 15:00:03 - [29] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Before you go and the other devs go off and do it based on a tiny selection of yes's on this forum, I would suggest you put it to a bigger selection of fans at the next fan fest during a Eve auxiliary presentation towards the end of the ff, and judge it on that. As for the suggestion, yes it would be a good addition to the Eve lore, so long as the effort doesn't pull dev staff from their main job. OR, CCP could get in contact with the guys who did this book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Complete-Vehicles-Kerry-Dougherty/dp/1409334767/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1421679371&sr=1-3&keywords=star+wars+cross+sections And base any book of CCP designed ships like they have done for the Star Wars ones.
Vash Typhoon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.01.19 15:00:05 - [30] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: They don't exist not even as a concept. EVE ships are just empty shells which look pretty ("design is the function") and so there is no need to figure what's inside or how do they work. Of course, that job can be done retroactively, but personally I would not recommend it. "It looks cool" is quite incompatible with "it makes sense". I mean, how large would be the ammuniton magazines of ships firing artillery shells 1,400 mm wide and 16.2 milimeters long for a volume of 0.025 cubic meters? (I guess they fire them as killer frisbies...) EVE Ships are not empty shells, far from that they have crews, there is fiction written about that. I don't know how much time will I take, but I hope we'll be able to walk inside our ships and be in their bridges flying in space, the capsule concept can be reworked in many diferent ways, from the gameplay point of view and the fiction point of view, we can have both now, specially since we have Dust 514, soldiers immortal like the capsuleers, but without the need of a capsule. For me the capsule is a restraint more than an advantage, something needed to make the gameplay work, for now. There is a lot of people, that expect a lot more from CCP and this game in the years to come, for us EVE is limitless.
Red Teufel Mafia Redux 412	Posted - 2015.01.19 15:01:29 - [31] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! I'd rather you put those resources to WIS....
Adela Talvanen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 122	Posted - 2015.01.19 15:05:36 - [32] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Provence Tristram wrote: I realize that the issue of ship interiors has been something of a mild sticking point for a long time (I can remember reading the back-and-forths on whether or not there were even crews), but I was wondering if there are any concept art out there of the ships' interiors? Not anything necessarily vessel-specific, mind you, but just something to give a person an idea of theming? And I know we get kind of a mild taste of racial interiors based on the walkable portions of the stations, but it's one small room, and I'm left wanting to see more (particularly of the bridges). Anyone know of any good repository for this kind of stuff that I could browse through (if it even exists)? They don't exist not even as a concept. EVE ships are just empty shells which look pretty ("design is the function") and so there is no need to figure what's inside or how do they work. Of course, that job can be done retroactively, but personally I would not recommend it. "It looks cool" is quite incompatible with "it makes sense". I mean, how large would be the ammuniton magazines of ships firing artillery shells 1,400 mm wide and 16.2 milimeters long for a volume of 0.025 cubic meters? (I guess they fire them as killer frisbies...) IIRC, CCP did show a concept drawing of the inside of a Titan engine room at a ff once to give some perspective as to how big Titan's were.
Zimmy Zeta Lisa Needs Braces. 56278	Posted - 2015.01.19 16:14:49 - [33] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Hmmm...how about... YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ? I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Khald Hilitari Net 7 0	Posted - 2015.01.19 16:16:59 - [34] - Quote Vash Typhoon wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: They don't exist not even as a concept. EVE ships are just empty shells which look pretty ("design is the function") and so there is no need to figure what's inside or how do they work. Of course, that job can be done retroactively, but personally I would not recommend it. "It looks cool" is quite incompatible with "it makes sense". I mean, how large would be the ammuniton magazines of ships firing artillery shells 1,400 mm wide and 16.2 milimeters long for a volume of 0.025 cubic meters? (I guess they fire them as killer frisbies...) EVE Ships are not empty shells, far from that they have crews, there is fiction written about that. I don't know how much time will I take, but I hope we'll be able to walk inside our ships and be in their bridges flying in space, the capsule concept can be reworked in many diferent ways, from the gameplay point of view and the fiction point of view, we can have both now, specially since we have Dust 514, soldiers immortal like the capsuleers, but without the need of a capsule. For me the capsule is a restraint more than an advantage, something needed to make the gameplay work, for now. There is a lot of people, that expect a lot more from CCP and this game in the years to come, for us EVE is limitless. The lore as it is now, you could not simply take away the capsule and have a full command bridge instead and it make sense. In the lore the capsule's primary function wasn't to give the pod pilot immortality, but was to provide the captain of a ship with the ability to directly control his his ship. Let's look at an example: In a naval vessel, the captain gives the order to fire the guns, a crewman on the bridge radios the blokes at the guns and tells them the captain's orders, the blokes at the guns decide whether or not they are going to follow the captain's orders, and then the guns are finally fired if the blokes at the guns followed their orders (and they probably did). This whole process would take about 1 - 5 seconds, depending on where everyone is. In a capsuleer's ship the captain thinks "fire the guns" and the guns fire immediately. The whole process takes less than second. The advantage of the capsule is that it replaces the entire bridge crew and several other positions on the ship with the captain, while allowing him to think the ship into following his commands. Immortality was an after thought, added not by the Jovians, but by one of the empires. Sources: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/the-jovian-wet-grave/ http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/ppcc-part-1-the-capsule-and-the-clone/
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6688	Posted - 2015.01.19 16:36:07 - [35] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! The Algos cut-away was my favorite image from Source; I'd actually assumed there would be more, and was disappointed when I found out I was wrong. :/ So. Yes, please! :D Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Jenshae Chiroptera The Volition Cult 766	Posted - 2015.01.19 17:06:20 - [36] - Quote Here is a little thought: What if assets made in something license free like Blender (it is still free, right?) could be uploaded to CCP. Obviously there would need to be guides on making things .... but station and ship interiors can be purely cosmetic and for social reasons. CCP just need to moderate the submitted assets to make sure they are in the same art direction, that there are no subliminal phallic images (yes boys, I know how you think!) and then position it for loading. The key is making the right tools. Then it can be an afternoon's work once a week for some poor intern, who usually makes the tea and coffee and wants some game design work to put on their CV. Edit: Capules - interiors are for station inspections to make sure your crew are doing a good job and to show off what a tight ship you run to other pilots. CSM Ten movement for change. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids. Status: Rabid carebear Blog
darkdooku Malicious Mission Murderers 10	Posted - 2015.01.19 17:24:13 - [37] - Quote As a kid/teen I definitely enjoyed books of this style: http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Cross-Sections-Star-Wars-Spacecraft/dp/0789434806 If that is what type of thing you are looking to make I'd gladly purchase an Eve version.
Shaera Taam Khanid Prime Free Irregulars 170	Posted - 2015.01.19 17:27:04 - [38] - Quote Hellllll yeeaaahhh! ...i had several other responses in mind, but that was the most concise and straightforward... ;-) Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
Musashi Date 58	Posted - 2015.01.19 17:27:10 - [39] - Quote Provence Tristram wrote: I can remember reading the back-and-forths on whether or not there were even crews From the pages of evelopedia: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ship_crew sample Ship type: Battleship Minimum Crew (NPC, think missions, belt rats): 200 GÇô 550 Minimum Crew (Capsuleer): 100 GÇô 300 Maximum Capacity: 4,000 GÇô 9,500 Stat. Avg. Survivor Rate: 25 GÇô 50% @tech book Publishing something like this will properly cement EvE lore into sci-fi culture. 'Interceptor' 'Explorer' 'imperial standard uniforms' 'halp-we're-under-fire round' codices,lore, and some waterdrop-in-the-ocean moments.
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out 7136	Posted - 2015.01.19 17:37:10 - [40] - Quote Some ship cross sections that I have accumulated over the years... Imperial Issue Apocalypse cross section Hurricane cross section Myrmidon cross section Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. "How did you veterans start?"
Vash Typhoon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.01.19 17:55:01 - [41] - Quote Khald Hilitari wrote: Vash Typhoon wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: They don't exist not even as a concept. EVE ships are just empty shells which look pretty ("design is the function") and so there is no need to figure what's inside or how do they work. Of course, that job can be done retroactively, but personally I would not recommend it. "It looks cool" is quite incompatible with "it makes sense". I mean, how large would be the ammuniton magazines of ships firing artillery shells 1,400 mm wide and 16.2 milimeters long for a volume of 0.025 cubic meters? (I guess they fire them as killer frisbies...) EVE Ships are not empty shells, far from that they have crews, there is fiction written about that. I don't know how much time will I take, but I hope we'll be able to walk inside our ships and be in their bridges flying in space, the capsule concept can be reworked in many diferent ways, from the gameplay point of view and the fiction point of view, we can have both now, specially since we have Dust 514, soldiers immortal like the capsuleers, but without the need of a capsule. For me the capsule is a restraint more than an advantage, something needed to make the gameplay work, for now. There is a lot of people, that expect a lot more from CCP and this game in the years to come, for us EVE is limitless. The lore as it is now, you could not simply take away the capsule and have a full command bridge instead and it make sense. In the lore the capsule's primary function wasn't to give the pod pilot immortality, but was to provide the captain of a ship with the ability to directly control his his ship. Let's look at an example: In a naval vessel, the captain gives the order to fire the guns, a crewman on the bridge radios the blokes at the guns and tells them the captain's orders, the blokes at the guns decide whether or not they are going to follow the captain's orders, and then the guns are finally fired if the blokes at the guns followed their orders (and they probably did). This whole process would take about 1 - 5 seconds, depending on where everyone is. In a capsuleer's ship the captain thinks "fire the guns" and the guns fire immediately. The whole process takes less than second. The advantage of the capsule is that it replaces the entire bridge crew and several other positions on the ship with the captain, while allowing him to think the ship into following his commands. Immortality was an after thought, added not by the Jovians, but by one of the empires. Sources: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/the-jovian-wet-grave/ http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/ppcc-part-1-the-capsule-and-the-clone/ You're absolutely right about that, I've readed those chronicles. Wich does not forbid that we could have some new techonological advance that allowed us to control our ships outside the capsule. Another option could be to be able to control and avatar, could be a holographic one, or a robot perhaps that would allow us to explore our ships and interact in a more personal way with our crews. EVE universe is always evolving.
Metal Icarus Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 725	Posted - 2015.01.19 17:55:40 - [42] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes.
Ashlar Maidstone Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance 154	Posted - 2015.01.19 18:01:08 - [43] - Quote @CCP_Falcon, +1 forr another yes, go for it!
Azda Ja Green Skull LLC 2960	Posted - 2015.01.19 18:10:01 - [44] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! I want this last week. Gimme! Please "I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish GSLLC Recruitment Join Today!
John Henke Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 14	Posted - 2015.01.19 18:17:03 - [45] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes! I would buy something like that immediately.
Meiyang Lee Game Instrument Applications 72	Posted - 2015.01.19 18:19:23 - [46] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! ooh, consider me interested. If CCP were to release something like this I'd most likely buy it, if it was a reasonable price. I generally love the background tech and associated info going on in various sci-fi universes.
Khald Hilitari Net 7 1	Posted - 2015.01.19 18:38:04 - [47] - Quote Vash Typhoon wrote: Khald Hilitari wrote: Vash Typhoon wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: They don't exist not even as a concept. EVE ships are just empty shells which look pretty ("design is the function") and so there is no need to figure what's inside or how do they work. Of course, that job can be done retroactively, but personally I would not recommend it. "It looks cool" is quite incompatible with "it makes sense". I mean, how large would be the ammuniton magazines of ships firing artillery shells 1,400 mm wide and 16.2 milimeters long for a volume of 0.025 cubic meters? (I guess they fire them as killer frisbies...) EVE Ships are not empty shells, far from that they have crews, there is fiction written about that. I don't know how much time will I take, but I hope we'll be able to walk inside our ships and be in their bridges flying in space, the capsule concept can be reworked in many diferent ways, from the gameplay point of view and the fiction point of view, we can have both now, specially since we have Dust 514, soldiers immortal like the capsuleers, but without the need of a capsule. For me the capsule is a restraint more than an advantage, something needed to make the gameplay work, for now. There is a lot of people, that expect a lot more from CCP and this game in the years to come, for us EVE is limitless. The lore as it is now, you could not simply take away the capsule and have a full command bridge instead and it make sense. In the lore the capsule's primary function wasn't to give the pod pilot immortality, but was to provide the captain of a ship with the ability to directly control his his ship. Let's look at an example: In a naval vessel, the captain gives the order to fire the guns, a crewman on the bridge radios the blokes at the guns and tells them the captain's orders, the blokes at the guns decide whether or not they are going to follow the captain's orders, and then the guns are finally fired if the blokes at the guns followed their orders (and they probably did). This whole process would take about 1 - 5 seconds, depending on where everyone is. In a capsuleer's ship the captain thinks "fire the guns" and the guns fire immediately. The whole process takes less than second. The advantage of the capsule is that it replaces the entire bridge crew and several other positions on the ship with the captain, while allowing him to think the ship into following his commands. Immortality was an after thought, added not by the Jovians, but by one of the empires. Sources: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/the-jovian-wet-grave/ http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/ppcc-part-1-the-capsule-and-the-clone/ You're absolutely right about that, I've readed those chronicles. Wich does not forbid that we could have some new techonological advance that allowed us to control our ships outside the capsule. Another option could be to be able to control and avatar, could be a holographic one, or a robot perhaps that would allow us to explore our ships and interact in a more personal way with our crews. EVE universe is always evolving. Personally I don't think it makes sense to have an all-in-one escape pod, command center, cloning facility and not use it. What advantages would being on the empty bridge of the ship give over being in the pod? These are the questions you'd need to ask and answer to keep the lore believeable. As far as holograms of the capsuleer inside the ship? It'd take an extremely egotistical and/or paranoid person to have a hologram of himself walking around the ship interior interacting with the crew even if it was just automated. So that might actually be somewhat commonplace.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6112	Posted - 2015.01.19 18:47:49 - [48] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes. Have you ever seen....... hmm you are younger.... OK back in the 1980s we were purchasing stuff like that for Star Trek and Star Wars. This was back when we have ONLY STTOS and only three installments of SW from George Lucas. But even then we knew that the "TIE" in TIE Fighter meant "Twin Ion Engine". What I'm saying is, there's a market for that stuff and presently, as far as the media is concerned, there is no currently running Sci fi series on TV, so what you have is a huge void that can be filled. You might imagine that Eve players will get this stuff, but you also may find people getting into this stuff first and then becoming players (and the improvements you made to Industry will pay for itself at that point). Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 19427	Posted - 2015.01.19 18:49:43 - [49] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Stewie Griffin wrote: No, my pants just got tighter because I hated the idea. I would buy this in a heartbeat. If the pages weren't stuck together when I got it, they would be shortly afterwards... *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?* Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3654	Posted - 2015.01.19 18:53:00 - [50] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes, yes I would! ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Bienator II madmen of the skies 3137	Posted - 2015.01.19 19:14:38 - [51] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! tbh things like that should be on the "evelopedia" and crosslinked with the ship info windows. Having a high quality version of that in purchasable book form is a nice thing for sure. how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Catherine Wolfisheim Tetraktys SpaceMonkey's Alliance 292	Posted - 2015.01.19 19:16:39 - [52] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Sounds like a great idea for an app.
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 31360	Posted - 2015.01.19 19:37:37 - [53] - Quote Adding a yes to the yes chorus. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Jenshae Chiroptera The Volition Cult 767	Posted - 2015.01.19 19:52:59 - [54] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: What I'm saying is, there's a market for that stuff and presently, as far as the media is concerned, there is no currently running Sci fi series on TV, so what you have is a huge void that can be filled. Film CGI team + EVE assets + EVE lore + TV series writer + TV production company. Could it happen? Yes. Would it drive new members to the game through the roof? Yes. Will it happen? Probably not. CSM Ten movement for change. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids. Status: Rabid carebear Blog
Gilan Isana Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2015.01.19 20:05:03 - [55] - Quote BIG +1 and if you can get poster sized ones ready for fanfest. . . . . . $$$ pick the most popular (you guys have the stats) ship for each race to start off with, and if successful expand to other ships. I was thinking something like this : [url]http://www.iwmshop.org.uk/images/item_22263.jpg[/url] - cut away deck plan of WWII British light Cruiser HMS Belfast though thats probably something for further down the line!
Indahmawar Fazmarai 3667	Posted - 2015.01.19 20:08:47 - [56] - Quote Vash Typhoon wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: They don't exist not even as a concept. EVE ships are just empty shells which look pretty ("design is the function") and so there is no need to figure what's inside or how do they work. Of course, that job can be done retroactively, but personally I would not recommend it. "It looks cool" is quite incompatible with "it makes sense". I mean, how large would be the ammuniton magazines of ships firing artillery shells 1,400 mm wide and 16.2 milimeters long for a volume of 0.025 cubic meters? (I guess they fire them as killer frisbies...) EVE Ships are not empty shells, far from that they have crews, there is fiction written about that. I don't know how much time will I take, but I hope we'll be able to walk inside our ships and be in their bridges flying in space, the capsule concept can be reworked in many diferent ways, from the gameplay point of view and the fiction point of view, we can have both now, specially since we have Dust 514, soldiers immortal like the capsuleers, but without the need of a capsule. For me the capsule is a restraint more than an advantage, something needed to make the gameplay work, for now. There is a lot of people, that expect a lot more from CCP and this game in the years to come, for us EVE is limitless. LOL, I was talking about the ingame assets. And there is nothing else than a few scattered concepts of some ships. It doesn't matter where anything is because it can't be targetted nor hit. Mess room? Ammunition magazines? Engines? Power plant? They don't exist. Nobody ever tought where would they be or how would they work. This is why I say that EVE ships are just pretty shells. There is nothing inside. Of course CCP Falcon & al can go and start putitng things inside, afterwards. Bu t he task is enormous and all in all... EVE ships are sjut empty shells. We can imagine them in any way we want, but most of them make no sense at all. Think about asymmetrical ships. Why would anyone bother having different engines of different sizes and powers at different distances from the CoG in asymmetric array? It's "cool", but it makes no sense. And quite frankly, more than fictions about what there is (not) inside our ships, i'd rather buy (with money) a in-client replica of my appartment at the Greater Fool Bar. Or even the whole TGFB. Or the station where it is located in my imagination, not CCP's. But hey, now I am slipping into the realm of avatar content, and this is a spaceships only game, will always be a spaceships only game and will never be anything else. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! Ingame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar
Warde Guildencrantz TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1198	Posted - 2015.01.19 20:47:34 - [57] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Eve cross-section artbook? I would pay all the cash. TunDraGon Director ~ Low sec piracy since 2003 ~ Youtube ~ Join Us My ship fits
Bud Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.01.19 20:58:05 - [58] - Quote I would buy that Also tell us how much money the elevator maintenance crew make aboard a Naglfar
Savkef Nexturus Baconic Plague 0	Posted - 2015.01.19 21:16:32 - [59] - Quote That would most definately be something I would purchase.
gulftobay Mesotopia 166	Posted - 2015.01.19 21:17:21 - [60] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: Long as it doesn't steal away from the development cycle, go for it.
Raiz Nhell Veni Vidi Vici Reloaded 389	Posted - 2015.01.19 22:40:20 - [61] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Why is this not a thing... Please hurry up and make this a thing... You can have all of my money and possibly my first born :) There is no such thing as a fair fight... If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
Memphis Baas 71	Posted - 2015.01.19 22:44:46 - [62] - Quote Hey CCP, as an idea if the cost of printing high quality glossy and making a book out of it doesn't match with the profits you could get from it, how about a completely optional DLC that we can pay for? What it would do is activate another tab or a button on the info page of each ship (or in ISIS) where we can see schematics and other RP data in a high res jpeg window in-game. Sort of like the ship viewer, but for the schematics data. So those who have the DLC can have in-game access to this extra stuff, and those who don't aren't affected in their pew pew, mining, whatever. And you don't deal with printing costs, but may have to keep the schematics up to date.
Blackfeathers Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore 3	Posted - 2015.01.19 22:49:08 - [63] - Quote Shut up, make this, and take my money! That would be awesome!
Provence Tristram Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 49	Posted - 2015.01.19 23:16:08 - [64] - Quote Khald Hilitari wrote: Vash Typhoon wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: They don't exist not even as a concept. EVE ships are just empty shells which look pretty ("design is the function") and so there is no need to figure what's inside or how do they work. Of course, that job can be done retroactively, but personally I would not recommend it. "It looks cool" is quite incompatible with "it makes sense". I mean, how large would be the ammuniton magazines of ships firing artillery shells 1,400 mm wide and 16.2 milimeters long for a volume of 0.025 cubic meters? (I guess they fire them as killer frisbies...) EVE Ships are not empty shells, far from that they have crews, there is fiction written about that. I don't know how much time will I take, but I hope we'll be able to walk inside our ships and be in their bridges flying in space, the capsule concept can be reworked in many diferent ways, from the gameplay point of view and the fiction point of view, we can have both now, specially since we have Dust 514, soldiers immortal like the capsuleers, but without the need of a capsule. For me the capsule is a restraint more than an advantage, something needed to make the gameplay work, for now. There is a lot of people, that expect a lot more from CCP and this game in the years to come, for us EVE is limitless. The lore as it is now, you could not simply take away the capsule and have a full command bridge instead and it make sense. In the lore the capsule's primary function wasn't to give the pod pilot immortality, but was to provide the captain of a ship with the ability to directly control his his ship. Let's look at an example: In a naval vessel, the captain gives the order to fire the guns, a crewman on the bridge radios the blokes at the guns and tells them the captain's orders, the blokes at the guns decide whether or not they are going to follow the captain's orders, and then the guns are finally fired if the blokes at the guns followed their orders (and they probably did). This whole process would take about 1 - 5 seconds, depending on where everyone is. In a capsuleer's ship the captain thinks "fire the guns" and the guns fire immediately. The whole process takes less than second. The advantage of the capsule is that it replaces the entire bridge crew and several other positions on the ship with the captain, while allowing him to think the ship into following his commands. Immortality was an after thought, added not by the Jovians, but by one of the empires. Sources: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/the-jovian-wet-grave/ http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/ppcc-part-1-the-capsule-and-the-clone/ They've confirmed there are crews, and it makes perfect sense. Advanced as the human mind is, it can only control 1-2 high-order conscious tasks simultaneously. It can do loads more stuff unconsciously -- everything from sound filtering to regulating heartbeat -- but those are largely innate actions housed and operated by the reptilian brain, and have nothing to do with higher-order thinking. The capsule gives pilots and inherent advantage because basic commands like "go here" and "shoot there" would be instantaneous. But the mind cannot simultaneously order the ship's internal drones to repair a broken water cleansing system on deck 4, react to blast damage on deck 8, maintain an ongoing conversation with a station agent, and plot an escape route. We're still human -- we're just plugged in. Crews would be a necessary addition to vessels for the same reason capsuleers are -- because full automation has been found to be impractical, and the human element wholly necessary. You cannot simultaneously make the argument that crews are useless while at the same time propping up capsule tech as the end-all, be-all. Either people need to be involved or they are outdated and unnecessary, at which point we might as well sit planet-side and pilot all these vessels as drones.
Vash Typhoon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.01.19 23:16:29 - [65] - Quote Khald Hilitari wrote: Personally I don't think it makes sense to have an all-in-one escape pod, command center, cloning facility and not use it. What advantages would being on the empty bridge of the ship give over being in the pod? These are the questions you'd need to ask and answer to keep the lore believeable. As far as holograms of the capsuleer inside the ship? It'd take an extremely egotistical and/or paranoid person to have a hologram of himself walking around the ship interior interacting with the crew even if it was just automated. So that might actually be somewhat commonplace. Well it would be awesome to have another option, because even if it seems less advantageous I prefer to be able to walk in my ship and interact with my crew and use the capsule when I want too.
Provence Tristram Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 49	Posted - 2015.01.19 23:19:14 - [66] - Quote Vash Typhoon wrote: Khald Hilitari wrote: Personally I don't think it makes sense to have an all-in-one escape pod, command center, cloning facility and not use it. What advantages would being on the empty bridge of the ship give over being in the pod? These are the questions you'd need to ask and answer to keep the lore believeable. As far as holograms of the capsuleer inside the ship? It'd take an extremely egotistical and/or paranoid person to have a hologram of himself walking around the ship interior interacting with the crew even if it was just automated. So that might actually be somewhat commonplace. Well it would be awesome to have another option, because even if it seems less advantageous I prefer to be able to walk in my ship and interact with my crew and use the capsule when I want too. Humans are still required as pilots. Thus, humans are likely still required for other on-ship tasks. If there aren't crews, why are their windows; why aren't the ships literally just engine housings, platforms for the guns, and a tiny, protruding bulge containing the pod? The ships are clearly -- CLEARLY -- designed with large crews in mind. You can't look at them and not see that. And my guess is that, even if we as pilots can't walk around during space flight, we can 'project' ourselves into the interior in non-combat situations as a hologram, perhaps even interacting with the environment. I mean, can you imagine what a living hell it would be if we couldn't? You're talking about MONTHS of isolation inside our little egg shells, doing nothing, talking with nobody but the occasional station agent... nobody would do that. Why would they want to? I don't care if a capsuleer is "immortal" -- what kind of immortality would that be? No... there are crews, there are in-ship environments, and we have a way of interacting with both. If we didn't, every single capsule pilot would have long ago gone totally bonkers.
M'pact Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2015.01.19 23:49:16 - [67] - Quote Vash Typhoon wrote: ...because even if it seems less advantageous I prefer to be able to walk in my ship and interact with my crew and use the capsule when I want too. It wouldn't just seem less advantageous, you would absolutely be at a distinct disadvantage against any capsuleer ship if you weren't in the pod yourself. Any ship that doesn't have a capsuleer actively piloting it would have to be extremely lucky to survive against a capsuleer ship. And Provence--- A capsuleer's mind can do all of those things you list, and all at the same time. That's what the capsuleer implants are for (not to mention the extra abilities given by the pirate and other special/skill implants). They expand the brain's (and nervous system's) capabilities immensely. A human equipped with just the basic capsuleer implants would far out-class even the smartest and best unaugmented human. Any implants that add to stats would only make the gap even wider. The human capsuleer is necessary because human instinct and ingenuity in combat far outstrips that of a completely automated ship. However, every single other function on a ship can be done just as well - if not better - by automatons. Repairs, ammunition loading -- even the actual aiming of the guns is automatic. The capsuleer thinks "lock this" and it gets locked by the targeting computers. Then when the capsuleer mentally selects one of the locked targets and thinks "fire" the guns automatically swivel to track the target and fire. You also have to remember that there are still lots of non-capsuleer ships around. Capsuleers are just the best of the best elite pilots. So the same Megathron hull can be made to be a capsuleer or non-capsuleer ship. That's why there are still windows and all that human crap. And in a capsuleer ship, there still needs to be room for automatons and redundant systems. That's why ships aren't just flying weapon platforms. In MY EVE, the capsuleer is the only crew aboard a ship. The rest of the space is redundant automated systems and automatons. When I finally do make an *impact* on this universe, it will reverberate across the entirety of it, and no one will be able to truthfully claim they don't know me. - - Until then, I'll just sit quietly over here, minding my own business...
Provence Tristram Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 49	Posted - 2015.01.19 23:56:20 - [68] - Quote M'pact wrote: Vash Typhoon wrote: ...because even if it seems less advantageous I prefer to be able to walk in my ship and interact with my crew and use the capsule when I want too. In MY EVE, the capsuleer is the only crew aboard a ship. The rest of the space is redundant automated systems and automatons. Well, thankfully your EVE isn't reality. There are crews... and I imagine yours is quite mutinous, considering that you pretend they don't exist.
Radax Glenn C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative 98	Posted - 2015.01.20 00:36:49 - [69] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! YES! Take my money!!!!
Jaysen Larrisen Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 65	Posted - 2015.01.20 00:44:17 - [70] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Absolutely! That would be an awesome bit of immersion and cool little lore injects. "Endless money forms the sinews of War" - Cicero Biomassed - Dust & EVE Podcast Twitter - @JaysynLarrissen
M'pact Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2015.01.20 01:02:15 - [71] - Quote Provence Tristram wrote: Well, thankfully your EVE isn't reality. There are crews... and I imagine yours is quite mutinous, considering that you pretend they don't exist. Since EVE isn't reality anywhere, my EVE is just as real as your EVE. The humans who would have made up my ships' crews are thankful they live in my EVE where they don't die on a regular basis. When I finally do make an *impact* on this universe, it will reverberate across the entirety of it, and no one will be able to truthfully claim they don't know me. - - Until then, I'll just sit quietly over here, minding my own business...
Kyoko Sakoda Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 194	Posted - 2015.01.20 01:19:10 - [72] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! (püñ Gùò_Gùò )püñ GIEF!!!!! DIRETIDE!!!
Jenshae Chiroptera The Volition Cult 767	Posted - 2015.01.20 01:57:57 - [73] - Quote Provence Tristram wrote: M'pact wrote: Vash Typhoon wrote: ...because even if it seems less advantageous I prefer to be able to walk in my ship and interact with my crew and use the capsule when I want too. In MY EVE, the capsuleer is the only crew aboard a ship. The rest of the space is redundant automated systems and automatons. Well, thankfully your EVE isn't reality. There are crews... and I imagine yours is quite mutinous, considering that you pretend they don't exist. My crew is made up of mechanically re-animated zombies from all the floating corpses when an enemy ship ruptures and gives me pinata treats. CSM Ten movement for change. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids. Status: Rabid carebear Blog
Hal Morsh Icendus Corux Warp to Cyno. 247	Posted - 2015.01.20 02:28:41 - [74] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: Some ship cross sections that I have accumulated over the years... Imperial Issue Apocalypse cross section Hurricane cross section Myrmidon cross section Hehe, they have ammo sorting stations. CCP - Outpost code is scary.
Khald Hilitari Net 7 1	Posted - 2015.01.20 04:37:52 - [75] - Quote Provence Tristram wrote: Khald Hilitari wrote: Vash Typhoon wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: They don't exist not even as a concept. EVE ships are just empty shells which look pretty ("design is the function") and so there is no need to figure what's inside or how do they work. Of course, that job can be done retroactively, but personally I would not recommend it. "It looks cool" is quite incompatible with "it makes sense". I mean, how large would be the ammuniton magazines of ships firing artillery shells 1,400 mm wide and 16.2 milimeters long for a volume of 0.025 cubic meters? (I guess they fire them as killer frisbies...) EVE Ships are not empty shells, far from that they have crews, there is fiction written about that. I don't know how much time will I take, but I hope we'll be able to walk inside our ships and be in their bridges flying in space, the capsule concept can be reworked in many diferent ways, from the gameplay point of view and the fiction point of view, we can have both now, specially since we have Dust 514, soldiers immortal like the capsuleers, but without the need of a capsule. For me the capsule is a restraint more than an advantage, something needed to make the gameplay work, for now. There is a lot of people, that expect a lot more from CCP and this game in the years to come, for us EVE is limitless. The lore as it is now, you could not simply take away the capsule and have a full command bridge instead and it make sense. In the lore the capsule's primary function wasn't to give the pod pilot immortality, but was to provide the captain of a ship with the ability to directly control his his ship. Let's look at an example: In a naval vessel, the captain gives the order to fire the guns, a crewman on the bridge radios the blokes at the guns and tells them the captain's orders, the blokes at the guns decide whether or not they are going to follow the captain's orders, and then the guns are finally fired if the blokes at the guns followed their orders (and they probably did). This whole process would take about 1 - 5 seconds, depending on where everyone is. In a capsuleer's ship the captain thinks "fire the guns" and the guns fire immediately. The whole process takes less than second. The advantage of the capsule is that it replaces the entire bridge crew and several other positions on the ship with the captain, while allowing him to think the ship into following his commands. Immortality was an after thought, added not by the Jovians, but by one of the empires. Sources: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/the-jovian-wet-grave/ http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/ppcc-part-1-the-capsule-and-the-clone/ They've confirmed there are crews, and it makes perfect sense. Advanced as the human mind is, it can only control 1-2 high-order conscious tasks simultaneously. It can do loads more stuff unconsciously -- everything from sound filtering to regulating heartbeat -- but those are largely innate actions housed and operated by the reptilian brain, and have nothing to do with higher-order thinking. The capsule gives pilots and inherent advantage because basic commands like "go here" and "shoot there" would be instantaneous. But the mind cannot simultaneously order the ship's internal drones to repair a broken water cleansing system on deck 4, react to blast damage on deck 8, maintain an ongoing conversation with a station agent, and plot an escape route. We're still human -- we're just plugged in. Crews would be a necessary addition to vessels for the same reason capsuleers are -- because full automation has been found to be impractical, and the human element wholly necessary. You cannot simultaneously make the argument that crews are useless while at the same time propping up capsule tech as the end-all, be-all. Either people need to be involved or they are outdated and unnecessary, at which point we might as well sit planet-side and pilot all these vessels as drones. I not once said or implied that their aren't crews on the ships. Bridge crew and crew are not the same thing. Bridge crew are the officers and helmsmen, these according to the canon lore that CCP has given to us do not exist on any pod pilot's ship. Capsuleer ships would need crew to maintain the automatons, feed the crew, clean up after the crew, etc. The capsule allows the ship to function with a crew that is smaller than a skeleton crew, but most ships still do have a crew.
Khald Hilitari Net 7 1	Posted - 2015.01.20 04:50:27 - [76] - Quote Provence Tristram wrote: Humans are still required as pilots. Thus, humans are likely still required for other on-ship tasks. 100% with you here. Provence Tristram wrote: If there aren't crews, why are their windows; why aren't the ships literally just engine housings, platforms for the guns, and a tiny, protruding bulge containing the pod? Actually that's because most of the ships we fly weren't built with pods in mind, and would need a full crew to operate. Capsuleer ships are retrofitted to be able to hold the pod. Provence Tristram wrote: The ships are clearly -- CLEARLY -- designed with large crews in mind. You can't look at them and not see that. And my guess is that, even if we as pilots can't walk around during space flight, we can 'project' ourselves into the interior in non-combat situations as a hologram, perhaps even interacting with the environment. Clearly the ships are designed with large crews in mind, but that's because 99% of the ships aren't piloted by pod pilots. There is a very real possibility that holograms of the egger inside his ship are a thing. Provence Tristram wrote: I mean, can you imagine what a living hell it would be if we couldn't? You're talking about MONTHS of isolation inside our little egg shells, doing nothing, talking with nobody but the occasional station agent... nobody would do that. Why would they want to? I don't care if a capsuleer is "immortal" -- what kind of immortality would that be? Well, capsuleers are regularly on comms with each other. Also, there's a ton of money in being a capsuleer. Iirc .1 isk is enough to set up 4 generations for life all expenses paid. Provence Tristram wrote: No... there are crews, there are in-ship environments, and we have a way of interacting with both. If we didn't, every single capsule pilot would have long ago gone totally bonkers. Actually most canon lore has eggers being quite wonderfully insane. So that's a thing.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 915	Posted - 2015.01.20 06:44:27 - [77] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Sure. But don't forget the Fedos. We want to see it all. Remove insurance. This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE

CCP Falcon 10392	Posted - 2015.01.20 07:51:58 - [78] - Quote No promises of course This is just an idea that I'd suggested to CCP t0rfifrans a while back that we'd been talking about, as he's also a massive nerd when it comes to this kind of thing Good to see an initial positive reaction, although it'd need way more planning and investgation CCP Falcon \|\| Community Manager \|\| @CCP_Falcon Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

ChromeStriker 0ne Percent. Odin's Call 817	Posted - 2015.01.20 08:17:54 - [79] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: No promises of course This is just an idea that I'd suggested to CCP t0rfifrans a while back that we'd been talking about, as he's also a massive nerd when it comes to this kind of thing Good to see an initial positive reaction, although it'd need way more planning and investgation Can i pre-book now???? DO eeeeeeeeeeet No Worries
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6114	Posted - 2015.01.20 08:39:31 - [80] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: What I'm saying is, there's a market for that stuff and presently, as far as the media is concerned, there is no currently running Sci fi series on TV, so what you have is a huge void that can be filled. Film CGI team + EVE assets + EVE lore + TV series writer + TV production company. Could it happen? Yes. Would it drive new members to the game through the roof? Yes. Will it happen? Probably not. I've been saying in these forums for years that CCP has the potential to be more than a game company and change the way science fiction is consumed. Forever. Imagine if say STTNG was more than just a show that we passively sit and watch. Imagine if the Battle at Wolf359 was not just "an episode" but in addition to being that and part of the show, there were players in that battle. To this day, we would have people watching those reruns on TV or doing a "DVD/Netflix" marathon or something, but most of all, the chances for them to actually meet people who were in that battle. .Imagine the kid who was not even born before then and someone says to that kid "yeah I had a cruiser in that fight. Freakin' Borg cut a hole in my ship". Imagine being in that fleet, and being able to tell about it? If this happened with Eve, nobody will be able to just sit and watch science fiction any more, or just read books. Those things won't go away and should not, but a "full spectrum media" of the genre could go a long way and Eve has the lore, and backstory (much of it player-involved) to meet this bill. I hope it happens soon enough and with Eve, run by its international crew but still maintaining the Icelandic Viking edge. If an American game company picks up that ball and runs with it, it'll have another Wesley and be full of PC crap and would be too excruciating for anybody not on Ritalin (Like the rest of the world for example). Bring back DEEEEP Space!
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3661	Posted - 2015.01.20 08:42:26 - [81] - Quote For those discussing the crew compliments on the ships we fly in New Eden, I gladly point out this article as reference. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Provence Tristram Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 54	Posted - 2015.01.20 09:31:09 - [82] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: For those discussing the crew compliments on the ships we fly in New Eden, I gladly point out this article as reference. Thanks! Although I gotta imagine that it must get a little creepy inside a Dominix with only 100 crewmen. Talk about long, empty cooridors! Still, I'd rather have 100 bodies along than none.
Samoth Egnoled 55243	Posted - 2015.01.20 10:06:39 - [83] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Either of those suggestions works for me, though I would definitely pay for a hard backed version. Things of interest; - Deck layouts - Engine rooms - power core and capacitor ( we don't seem to fuel standard ships, an explanation on why would be nice ) - How ammo is fed and loaded from the cargo to weapons - sensors and instantaneous detection - Mining lasers and the technical side of things - How pods get into ships, and how ships are changed to facilitate a capsuleer - manufacturing in eve, everything from ammo to titans Hope this gives you some ideas. The slow blade penetrates the shield. Green skull LLC - Louder than God's revolver and twice as shiny!
Provence Tristram Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 54	Posted - 2015.01.20 10:12:01 - [84] - Quote Samoth Egnoled wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Either of those suggestions works for me, though I would definitely pay for a hard backed version. Things of interest; - Deck layouts - Engine rooms - power core and capacitor ( we don't seem to fuel standard ships, an explanation on why would be nice ) - How ammo is fed and loaded from the cargo to weapons - sensors and instantaneous detection - Mining lasers and the technical side of things - How pods get into ships, and how ships are changed to facilitate a capsuleer - manufacturing in eve, everything from ammo to titans Hope this gives you some ideas. I'd also like to see some other things: -Crew quarters. -'Typical' bridge layouts favored by the races. -Amenities considered standard based on race (IE Amarr on-ship chapels). -How hardpoints are able to accommodate vastly different weapon systems.
Josef Djugashvilis 2865	Posted - 2015.01.20 14:07:52 - [85] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! No. This is not a signature.
Indahmawar Fazmarai 3667	Posted - 2015.01.20 14:25:52 - [86] - Quote Samoth Egnoled wrote: (...) - How pods get into ships, and how ships are changed to facilitate a capsuleer (...). Heh, I also gave some thought to that for TGFB... On traveling as a pod in the hold of a capsule ship: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3126911#post3126911 On getting into a pod: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3270990#post3270990 I'm not sure whether I wrote something about decanting. But that was adressed by one of Incarna's teasers. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! Ingame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9396	Posted - 2015.01.20 14:36:52 - [87] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! This was my favorite book as a teenager. So yea, bring it on.
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 489	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:16:42 - [88] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! I'd buy it, sniff it and rub my face into it daily, i would hold it in my arms and caress it as I go to sleep. Then I'd buy a second one so that I can lay it on the other pillow and whisper to it all the lovely-kinky things in the world. (Sorry, mechanical design is my field...) " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Synlauna Celestus Industries 3	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:33:22 - [89] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Absolutely! I'll be among the first in line for this. I think it's great to have content such as this available for purchase that allows us to delve deeper into the details of New Eden. I like what was done with Eve Source as well, allowing for a digital copy to be available on the Kindle store.
Vash Typhoon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:50:27 - [90] - Quote Well I hope this positive response somehow makes things move in the right direction for us to enjoy new material about EVE universe.
Abishai 137	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:10:16 - [91] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! I would buy this.
Adela Talvanen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 122	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:55:41 - [92] - Quote M'pact wrote: Provence Tristram wrote: Well, thankfully your EVE isn't reality. There are crews... and I imagine yours is quite mutinous, considering that you pretend they don't exist. Since EVE isn't reality anywhere, my EVE is just as real as your EVE. The humans who would have made up my ships' crews are thankful they live in my EVE where they don't die on a regular basis. The crews die on a regular basis is because the game mechanics only have the pod pilot in his/her bath of goo escape. IF Eve was merged Star Wars IRL - a nice thought for the coming millennia - the ships will have multiple escape capsules life boats, for ship evacuations, and there would be no need for a pilot in a bath of goo. We'd have academies for training ships officers, and crew, just like here on Earth..
Adela Talvanen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 122	Posted - 2015.01.20 19:01:11 - [93] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: No promises of course This is just an idea that I'd suggested to CCP t0rfifrans a while back that we'd been talking about, as he's also a massive nerd when it comes to this kind of thing Good to see an initial positive reaction, although it'd need way more planning and investgation As I said in my first post. Have a presenter throw out the idea to the audience at the fanfest this year, and get more player feedback before CCP does anything.
Nariya Kentaya Ministry of War Amarr Empire 1715	Posted - 2015.01.20 19:02:23 - [94] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: No promises of course This is just an idea that I'd suggested to CCP t0rfifrans a while back that we'd been talking about, as he's also a massive nerd when it comes to this kind of thing Good to see an initial positive reaction, although it'd need way more planning and investgation ya know, when the topic came up of "give us gratuitous graphics in the form of hookers, tesselation, and HD texture packs, and kick the windows 98' users out", the reaction was alot more positive, does this mean that development direction is still on the table? (please say yes)
Vash Typhoon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.01.20 19:08:05 - [95] - Quote Adela Talvanen wrote: The crews die on a regular basis is because the game mechanics only have the pod pilot in his/her bath of goo escape. IF Eve was merged Star Wars IRL - a nice thought for the coming millennia - the ships will have multiple escape capsules life boats, for ship evacuations, and there would be no need for a pilot in a bath of goo. We'd have academies for training ships officers, and crew, just like here on Earth.. Crews have their escape pods, there is a crew survival percentage for every class, a little low for my taste, but EVE is a dangerous place for the people looking to live among the stars. We as commanders of our ships can have effect here, we can give te order to evcuate ship whenever we want, that way we can save the lives of our crew.
Noriko Mai 2011	Posted - 2015.01.20 23:06:33 - [96] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: For those discussing the crew compliments on the ships we fly in New Eden, I gladly point out this article as reference. Quote: The Minmatar have never suffered from lack of numbers[...]. Their excellence lies in mechanical devices but less so in automated systems. As a result, the Minmatar use large numbers of crew on their vessels. EDIT: And they are actually already working on it. For almost two years!!!!1!1!!!!1!! Come On Everybody, support Dark Opaque theme
Wacktopia Noir. Suddenly Spaceships. 767	Posted - 2015.01.20 23:15:56 - [97] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Posters for my wall of this stuff, please. :) Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com
Pok Nibin Filial Pariahs 461	Posted - 2015.01.22 01:49:16 - [98] - Quote There. I think the first page of the forum index is like what management wants to see. Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 34143	Posted - 2015.01.22 02:08:14 - [99] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yeah I'd buy it. I'd get a lot of use out of it. Would of course prefer to see interiors actually impletented but yeah, I'd still buy it. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29566	Posted - 2015.01.22 03:23:46 - [100] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes, but I would pay just as much for a high resolution digital collection of images. Maybe it's an old lifestyle remnant from my military days and packing light / moving light... but I dislike physical things due to the "stuff" clutter. Bundle it with bonus in-game goodies and you have a winner. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Dersen Lowery Drinking in Station 1435	Posted - 2015.01.22 04:10:39 - [101] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Hell yes. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
Velarra 346	Posted - 2015.01.22 04:51:47 - [102] - Quote New technical Chronicles on the Eve website would be great, alongside some awesome Art too. Just like: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-spider-miner/ http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/camera-drones/ http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/aura/ The chronicles sure do inspire people to share the ambiance and soul of eve (kinda like advertising the world to potential new & current players) going so far as to read them aloud and make awesome recordings like this fine pilot here: http://www.evereader.org/ As for resources to cover the development- perhaps someone can go mumble something about 18 months to those folks who're playing -a free FPS that's funded by space ship pilots who subscribe to play eve-... on an old gen console. That uh, what's it called? Segabox or something? That, you know, some minor creative resources had to be diverted back to spaceship land? mmm? Wouldn't that be awesome?!
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29570	Posted - 2015.01.22 09:20:12 - [103] - Quote Velarra wrote: New technical Chronicles on the Eve website would be great, alongside some awesome Art too. Just like: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-spider-miner/ http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/camera-drones/ http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/aura/ The chronicles sure do inspire people to share the ambiance and soul of eve (kinda like advertising the world to potential new & current players) going so far as to read them aloud and make awesome recordings like this fine pilot here: http://www.evereader.org/ As for resources to cover the development- perhaps someone can go mumble something about 18 months to those folks who're playing -a free FPS that's funded by space ship pilots who subscribe to play eve-... on an old gen console. That uh, what's it called? Segabox or something? That, you know, some minor creative resources had to be diverted back to spaceship land? mmm? Wouldn't that be awesome?! Sad state of affairs when we're asking for these things, when they would enrich the lore and backstory so much. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 281	Posted - 2015.01.22 09:43:29 - [104] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! I would, completely! I'd love to have, for example, a Cross-Sections book like those of Star Wars ships and other vehicles.
Liafcipe9000 Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 31749	Posted - 2015.01.22 12:25:57 - [105] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! 10/10 would PLEX for EVE Hardware Pawrn Founder of the Graycember movement and LAGL's pet cat.
Capt Handbanana Caldari Provisions Caldari State 13	Posted - 2015.01.22 12:40:00 - [106] - Quote More nerd-sauce material to add to the collection. +1 I like beer.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29575	Posted - 2015.01.22 12:54:18 - [107] - Quote Just for some context, the artbooks I couldn't stop myself from buying online and in brick and mortar stores were about $35 - $45 each. I don't know the count, but I know they fill four of those 50 gallon plastic storage tubs. In-game items are being undersold, and on their own the concept is kind of empty... but paired with an occasion, I think it's a good mix. The best thing about a physical book, though, is color reproduction. Print is handled in CMYK, while monitors use RGB. If you were to get really fancy about the digital images, ship them in CMYK for printing purposes. One way to handle DRM gracefully is embed the name of a pilot onto the ships somehow, maybe the way you see pilot and crewchief names stencilled on military aircraft. Hopefully there's a way to automate this per order, but even if there isn't, you gotta work for that money somehow, and digital goods have infinite scalability. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Baneken Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light 458	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:53:31 - [108] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! all you need to do is to check the star fleet technical manual on how to do such things in book format.
Hoo Ji-Kyu Swamphole Inc. Swamphole 0	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:56:38 - [109] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Honestly, I think it would be very good if we'd work out the technical details into a (buyable) format. It will help people who like to write novels for example, or fanfiction writers a lot! Not only that, but often idea's proposed in very popular series end up developped years later, and who knows... it might contribute :D
Mineur Maulerant Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2015.01.22 15:41:50 - [110] - Quote I think it would be cool. No, SUPER COOL! I personally would like to see the layouts of some of the industry ships (especially the larger ones). It would be pretty neat to see the network of internal mechanisms and systems like freight elevators, the Rorqual (in both travel and deployed mode), assembly lines, conveyor systems, resource processors, cargo and drone bays, etc. Maybe some of the usual modules one would find on such ships could be attached and we could see their inner workings as well. It would also be pretty awesome to see cutaways with the crew (if any) in our ships performing their typical tasks of maintaining some of the internal systems, repairing damage, etc. Anything really. Books, posters, downloadable media, wallpapers, 3D models, anything. You put it in the store and I will buy it. Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Ilandrin Yona Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing 32	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:54:14 - [111] - Quote The lore is what got me interested in Eve to start with, so I love any additions or expansions to what lore is available, including something like this. ... ..... ....... ... ..... ....... ... ..... ....... ... ..... ....... ... ..... ....... My Eve Biography: Ilandrin Yona
Kirith Kodachi Aideron Robotics 34	Posted - 2015.01.23 13:08:53 - [112] - Quote AS the author of this document covering 23 ships from a couple years back, I strongly approve!
Ranger Feenix Aliastra Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.01.23 13:40:07 - [113] - Quote Kirith Kodachi wrote: AS the author of this document covering 23 ships from a couple years back, I strongly approve! Wow. Excellent work! Lost in Space
cpu939 Eternal Darkness. Get Off My Lawn 82	Posted - 2015.01.23 15:04:50 - [114] - Quote my self i would love to see an eve version of this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Trek-Generation-Technical-Unnumbered/dp/0671704273 i would love it to over the ships and stations of eve
Dean Dewitt Babylon Knights DARKNESS. 7	Posted - 2015.01.23 16:37:47 - [115] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! YES, I would love that :D
Rothar Luke Have Guns Will Travel SpaceMonkey's Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.01.23 19:12:11 - [116] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! DO IT
Pliskkenn Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2015.01.23 19:38:35 - [117] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Yes. absolutely yes Include graphs like the damage one dropped it reddit a and pawn it off as a concord report or something. As long as it wasn't a limited run like Source was. Still disappointed I couldn't grab that because I wasn't sat at the PC comstantly waiting for it to come on sale.
Che Biko Alexylva Paradox 671	Posted - 2015.01.23 21:30:44 - [118] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying- Shut up and take my money! Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate
kelmiler delbone Pathfinders. 6	Posted - 2015.01.23 21:59:02 - [119] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! If it included some digital models in a format easily used to create videos with sure
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29599	Posted - 2015.01.24 03:55:43 - [120] - Quote Ah, that's already possible, and the bad news is it's not easy. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
iP0D Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.01.24 04:33:08 - [121] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! On a serious note, yes. There's a geek & tech market you can (and should) dig into. People have been asking for that since '03, we've seen plenty of player created content over the years as well, from renders in the blender communities via fan fiction to technical background / element content in roleplaying groups. Question isn't so much whether to market it, but how. Particularly since such user and community types tend to be rather high maintenance - it's not an eve thing, go fishing with franchises like Perry Rhodan or BattleTech for hints. A major caveat you should however keep in mind is that the marketable value of immersive content is nill without added mythos. Simply put: hull history may sell a bit, but not for long, and not by much. Hull history tied in with storyline / dynamic content + extra's (things to do / share) is the proven better approach. Funny thing, aside of that mishap with user designed ships once upon a time (remember the chaos and long aftermath), that was something which could have yielded a lot of useful adopt/share type of exposure. I'm surprised CCP hasn't hooked up with space agencies (private and public) considering some ships of recent years are right out of tech experiments from there :P Synergy folks .. explore it. Incidentally, ever considered taking a page out of Jesuit notes? Get 'em young - paper model kits, cardboard cutouts, foldout postcards from outer space, explore the angles to give free & freely. Build up an experience base, then try commercial avenues. No matter the number of accounts subscribed, Torfi should not (again) forget that you're dealing with a niche market model. CCP is not a retail company. Again: remember the store drama over the years. You're not retail. Stay digital, enable players to make things real. It's the foundation right there either way. On a less serious note, I don't doubt there's enough people who will buy good material not just for its own value, if it keeps the man away from game design and venture development. Too much damage was done.
Marisol Aldurad EVE University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2015.01.24 11:08:19 - [122] - Quote Definitely YES!
Omega Tron Amarr Mining Inc 46	Posted - 2015.01.24 19:53:43 - [123] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! OK.... So you've discussed this idea internally to death now? So the lore players love it. The PVP players see it as a waist of developer time (ignore please!) Sounds like to me you need to get this on a release schedule target if it is ever going to happen. Many plus one's for this. It's real geek candy. CCP's sand box is EVE Online. The sand is owned by CCP. We pay them a monthly fee to throw the sand at each other. That is all that is here, so move along. Nothing more to be seen.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29604	Posted - 2015.01.25 09:32:39 - [124] - Quote iP0D wrote: You're not retail. Stay digital excellent point. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Pestilen Ratte Artimus Ratte 8	Posted - 2015.01.26 01:54:34 - [125] - Quote I've given this issue of commercial demand for extra media some thought. Here is the thing: If players buy media content of any kind separately from the contract to play the game (subscription payment), how can that separation be maintained with respect to the in game media? You can sell a physical model separately to the digital media. You can sell glossy posters, beer coolers, hats and other physical manifestations of media and yet keep them separate from in game media. But lore and back story? I don't think so. It seems inherently doomed to undermine the in game media, and so corrupt the subscription deal that has already been made. I'd counsel to avoid any discussion of trying to sell IP (images, lore etc) beyond the subscription deal. The deal is that you pay and you get, and what you get is ALL the lore, all the digital media. You get Eve, plain and simple, and that means all the IP to enjoy. Having said that, there are many ways to leverage popular IP and to use it to generate margins in separate business streams. This is not a new thing, some publishers are better at it than others. Much as I love you CCP guys, if we brutally honest, you suck at leveraging your IP. You are professional developers but amateur publishers. You will know when you don't suck at publishing because you will start talking about leveraging IP instead of selling it. Good luck, and god's speed. I have every faith you will get there in the end.
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 3787	Posted - 2015.01.26 02:00:42 - [126] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Would buy. "My mule don't like laughing. You can apologize to my mule and can be alright." -The Man with No Name
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 1295	Posted - 2015.01.26 08:24:36 - [127] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: Some ship cross sections that I have accumulated over the years... Imperial Issue Apocalypse cross section Hurricane cross section Myrmidon cross section Quoting for posterity. Why Can't I have a picture signature. Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7903	Posted - 2015.01.26 11:51:35 - [128] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! I would deffinitely like to see cutouts as big posters with theme of empire battleships: apocalypse, raven, tempest and megathron. Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
jurgen b Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.01.26 12:10:48 - [129] - Quote + 1 i would buy it, not because need but for the support of EVE developement :) so one day we can open the door from our CQ
Aralieus The Inf1dels 244	Posted - 2015.01.26 16:54:59 - [130] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! +1 Oderint Dum Metuant
Shizuken Venerated Stars 351	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:26:06 - [131] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Only if it actually makes its way into the game at some point.
SiKong Ma House of Nim-Lhach Skeleton Crew. 6	Posted - 2015.01.27 06:02:26 - [132] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Most definitely will buy. However, please make it available for us in Southeast Asia. Quite a few of us have been trying to buy physical items like books etc but was unable to as you do not deliver to our countries previously (Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and Thailand).
Cancel Align NOW Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 407	Posted - 2015.01.27 07:36:37 - [133] - Quote I'd buy that book.
Tshilaba AIFAM VERY BEST 0	Posted - 2015.01.27 17:37:18 - [134] - Quote The mechanical engineer in me would by 2 of those books. 1 to show other people and one to fap over.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 19568	Posted - 2015.01.27 17:43:29 - [135] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: No promises of course This is just an idea that I'd suggested to CCP t0rfifrans a while back that we'd been talking about, as he's also a massive nerd when it comes to this kind of thing Good to see an initial positive reaction, although it'd need way more planning and investgation As long as we get a lot more like that Algos cutaway, and you guys TAKE YOUR TIME and MAKE IT LOOK ***** GORGEOUS, I would gladly wait and pay all the money for a nice hardcover. But if you guys were to do this, and it was rushed, and it looked like it was rushed, youd off ALOT of people. Im patient and am willing to wait for quality. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? Vote Sabriz Adoudel** for CSM 10!
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 4551	Posted - 2015.01.27 19:26:17 - [136] - Quote Here are some ~~interiors~~ cross-sections: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/TauCabalander/hurricane.png http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/TauCabalander/myrmidon.png I've seen one other, but I forgot to save it
Syri Taneka NOVA-CAINE 111	Posted - 2015.01.28 03:21:07 - [137] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This is something myself and CCP t0rfifrans have been talking about for some time now, some kind of ship inventory with a lot of techincal backstory and history of hulls in it. What would you guys think of something like that? Would you be interested in buying some form of media completely devoted to technical backstory in EVE? Stuff like technical readouts, drawings, histories of hulls and their variants, that kind of thing? Just wondering! Does this kind of thing exist? WIS is one thing, but this sort of technical lore would add many layers to EVE's "realness".
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 689	Posted - 2015.01.28 03:57:07 - [138] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: No promises of course This is just an idea that I'd suggested to CCP t0rfifrans a while back that we'd been talking about, as he's also a massive nerd when it comes to this kind of thing Good to see an initial positive reaction, although it'd need way more planning and investgation As long as we get a lot more like that Algos cutaway, and you guys TAKE YOUR TIME and MAKE IT LOOK ***** GORGEOUS, I would gladly wait and pay all the money for a nice hardcover. But if you guys were to do this, and it was rushed, and it looked like it was rushed, youd ** off ALOT of people. Im patient and am willing to wait for quality. Not empty quoting. Vote Sabriz!
Artuard Envien Bonanza Excavation 21	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:27:27 - [139] - Quote Nah, would not buy. I already got the collectors edition. We were supposed to get more stuff for free. Still waiting.
Whittorical Quandary The Asteroid is Depleted 14	Posted - 2015.01.28 06:30:59 - [140] - Quote Would be nice to have some storyline info added, having internal ship bridge views would be nice, but with the amount of ships in game, would be impossible to have many unique appearances, unless it were possible to procedurally generate ones... maybe... Losing ship crews is a sad thing but it is a harsh loss one of my 4+ clones is completely willing to take. A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams

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