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Karlemgne	Posted - 2006.09.26 14:23:00 - [31] Originally by: Herrmann Vietzich Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Maybe its the person that Preowned that needs shooting, not the person that bought them. Nope. Both people are violating the EULA. Not that I'm defending Ebayers and Farmers here, but have you ever actually read the EULA for a MMO? Lets put it this way, you are agreeing to some outlandish s***, which you've probably violated 10 times without even knowing it. Just an observation. -Karlemgne
Karlemgne	Posted - 2006.09.26 14:26:00 - [32] Originally by: Celeste Storm Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Quote: he got 2 accounts and they re 100% from ebay as i know who preowned them. Theres the issue. Maybe its the person that Preowned that needs shooting, not the person that bought them. This person is no longer playing. Wtf shall CCP do if not take care for the nub who bought the account? Cel. Who cares really? Other than CCP for people paying cash for CCP's not real virtual merchandise. Don't you feel the least bit sorry for the poor shmuck who's paid cash for an account and is now about to lose his investment? -Karlemgne
Gamesguy	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:53:00 - [33] Isnt buying entire accounts legal anyways? You just cant buy individual characters right?
Serious Bob	Posted - 2006.09.26 17:08:00 - [34] Originally by: Gamesguy Isnt buying entire accounts legal anyways? You just cant buy individual characters right? Uh yes, that's it. Or not. Character transfers are allowed, but an account is tied to the original creator.
The Anointed Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:45:00 - [35] The big thing that I dont get, is why ebay allow themselves to be the medium by which things like this are sold. Surely if ccp say 'dont sell our ****' then ebay would have to stick to it. That may be a simplistic view on it, but surely there must be something that ccp/ebay can do to stop the auctions even being posted? If not then, well, to be honest i wish it suprised me, but it doesnt.
xenodia Gallente Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:47:00 - [36] Originally by: Benglada I quite like them, i once had a 3 year old char in a domi attack my domi...he had light drones and 150mm rails, i pwnd him and took his loot, he un docked in a full t2 fitted proph, i pwnd him.....he was obviously an ebayed char because it sounded like (from what he said in local) Hed never played a day in his life. Could just as easily have been a carebear whod never PvP'd but decided to use his isk to purchase a pvp character, which is perfectly legal as far as CCP is concerned as long as its done through the Sell orders forums on this site, and they follow proper procedures for doing so. Theres absolutely nothing ive read here that indicates that the subject of the original post didnt just buy a CHARACTER through legit means. Granted, he could have bought the account on ebay (which is against the EULA) but just because someone has a character that they didnt "raise" doesnt mean they got it on ebay.
xenodia Gallente Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:51:00 - [37] Originally by: Gamesguy Isnt buying entire accounts legal anyways? You just cant buy individual characters right? Sort of backwards. You can buy characters, but not for real cash. you can buy/sell characters for ISK, provided you do it with CCP's approved procedure, which is outlined in the Sell Orders forum. You can NOT legally buy or sell an entire account at all, and you cant sell a character for rl cash. Now, technically, theres nothing to stop someone from buying game time codes for RL cash, selling them for ISK, and then using the ISK to buy a character (thus converting RL cash to uber character, just with a middle man), without ever having played a day of EVE, but thats a story for another thread.
Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.09.27 23:50:00 - [38] I had a quick look see on Ebay, and especially with characters they tend to put "You are not bidding for the character, but the time used to play the game to get it up to <insert Skill point amount here > Points. Since the EULA does not cover giving a character away (to the best of my knowledge), is it a loophole? I do despise anyone who breaks the rules to get ahead in the game, as for me I will be mining veld till new year for my next ship :( Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.09.28 00:01:00 - [39] Honestly people, why do you car so much? Does it hurt you, do you lose money somehow, does it make you e-peen smaller, what? If CCP doesn't care, why do you? Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2006.09.28 00:52:00 - [40] Originally by: Gift why do you car so much? Perhaps because some people care for the game, and feel that Ebaying (and GTC to ISK) does hurt the game in the long run? There are already games where whole concept goes around RL money (like Second Life, Entropy); people embracing the concept should focus on them instead. CCP has chosen Eve to be a game where your personal achievement history should matter. For me that is requirement for choosing to play the game. For analogue, would you see anything wrong if in a Marathon race the leading runner sold 'the time he spend running' to random millionaire, who finishes the last few meters and thus becomes the world champion? -Lasse
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.09.28 00:59:00 - [41] Edited by: Gift on 28/09/2006 01:03:49 Originally by: Heikki Originally by: Gift why do you car so much? Perhaps because some people care for the game, and feel that Ebaying (and GTC to ISK) does hurt the game in the long run? How? EDIT - and im not talking about macro-miners & the like. Just how 1 guy buying an account hurts the game. Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.28 01:25:00 - [42] Originally by: Necronomicon I had a quick look see on Ebay, and especially with characters they tend to put "You are not bidding for the character, but the time used to play the game to get it up to <insert Skill point amount here > Points. Since the EULA does not cover giving a character away (to the best of my knowledge), is it a loophole? Of course not. This text is on the bottom of every MMO auction in existence, and its completely groundless and meaningless. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Exiled One Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.09.28 05:11:00 - [43] Originally by: Gift Edited by: Gift on 28/09/2006 01:03:49 Originally by: Heikki Originally by: Gift why do you car so much? Perhaps because some people care for the game, and feel that Ebaying (and GTC to ISK) does hurt the game in the long run? How? EDIT - and im not talking about macro-miners & the like. Just how 1 guy buying an account hurts the game. How about getting your ship ganked by a 25bil rattlesnake piloted by a chap who played eve for 2 months and knows where the f1-f8 keys are located? It's all chips and candy but when you lose a ship to a player/ship that wasn't supposed to be there.
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.09.28 06:51:00 - [44] Edited by: Gift on 28/09/2006 06:55:13 Originally by: Exiled One Originally by: Gift Edited by: Gift on 28/09/2006 01:03:49 Originally by: Heikki Originally by: Gift why do you car so much? Perhaps because some people care for the game, and feel that Ebaying (and GTC to ISK) does hurt the game in the long run? How? EDIT - and im not talking about macro-miners & the like. Just how 1 guy buying an account hurts the game. How about getting your ship ganked by a 25bil rattlesnake piloted by a chap who played eve for 2 months and knows where the f1-f8 keys are located? It's all chips and candy but when you lose a ship to a player/ship that wasn't supposed to be there. The original character would have killed you aswell. what is the difference, youre still dead. Now, how about a REAL way you could be hurt by a noob buying an account? Ill save you some time, there isnt one. Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.28 08:26:00 - [45] Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: Herrmann Vietzich Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Maybe its the person that Preowned that needs shooting, not the person that bought them. Nope. Both people are violating the EULA. Not that I'm defending Ebayers and Farmers here, but have you ever actually read the EULA for a MMO? Lets put it this way, you are agreeing to some outlandish s*, which you've probably violated 10 times without even knowing it. Just an observation. -Karlemgne Ignorance is no excuse. Originally by:** kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.28 08:28:00 - [46] Originally by: Necronomicon I had a quick look see on Ebay, and especially with characters they tend to put "You are not bidding for the character, but the time used to play the game to get it up to <insert Skill point amount here > Points. Since the EULA does not cover giving a character away (to the best of my knowledge), is it a loophole? No, becuase you're breaking the EULA by making real $$ off of EVE. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Specture Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.09.28 09:09:00 - [47] Originally by: Gift Edited by: Gift on 28/09/2006 01:03:49 Originally by: Heikki Originally by: Gift why do you car so much? Perhaps because some people care for the game, and feel that Ebaying (and GTC to ISK) does hurt the game in the long run? How? EDIT - and im not talking about macro-miners & the like. Just how 1 guy buying an account hurts the game. gift probably likes the people who are noobs and buy hi-end characters and gear, then venture into low sec and get pooned I dont blame him, I do it too
Catalina Estaban	Posted - 2006.09.28 09:50:00 - [48] Edited by: Catalina Estaban on 28/09/2006 09:51:12 Edited by: Catalina Estaban on 28/09/2006 09:50:51 Originally by: Necronomicon I had a quick look see on Ebay, and especially with characters they tend to put "You are not bidding for the character, but the time used to play the game to get it up to <insert Skill point amount here > Points. Since the EULA does not cover giving a character away (to the best of my knowledge), is it a loophole? I do despise anyone who breaks the rules to get ahead in the game, as for me I will be mining veld till new year for my next ship :( Hehe imagine if this worked, I can just see it on ebay now: Auctioning - 2 kg. mari-juana You are not bidding for the pot itself, but the time used to grow it.
IcemansMiner	Posted - 2006.09.28 10:37:00 - [49] Ill have a quater of that ha ha ha
DOGNOSH Minmatar SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2006.09.28 11:10:00 - [50] blame should be on the vets who sell these 30Mill SP + chars on ebay,but what's the point as the vets are the one complaining on here mmmm pink Eris will approve - Xorus Xorus has been webbified - DOGNOSH
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.09.28 15:31:00 - [51] Originally by: Specture Originally by: Gift Edited by: Gift on 28/09/2006 01:03:49 Originally by: Heikki Originally by: Gift why do you car so much? Perhaps because some people care for the game, and feel that Ebaying (and GTC to ISK) does hurt the game in the long run? How? EDIT - and im not talking about macro-miners & the like. Just how 1 guy buying an account hurts the game. gift probably likes the people who are noobs and buy hi-end characters and gear, then venture into low sec and get pooned I dont blame him, I do it too Hehe, you got me there. Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Karlemgne Red Navy Faction Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.28 15:41:00 - [52] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Necronomicon I had a quick look see on Ebay, and especially with characters they tend to put "You are not bidding for the character, but the time used to play the game to get it up to <insert Skill point amount here > Points. Since the EULA does not cover giving a character away (to the best of my knowledge), is it a loophole? Of course not. This text is on the bottom of every MMO auction in existence, and its completely groundless and meaningless. This is how ebay allows them to procede. Ebay has to stop people if they are "selling virtual merchandise" owned by CCP, however, if a player is "selling" his "time," it may be a violation of your EULA agreement with CCP, but it isn't agaist the law. Poof ebay makes money legaly off of MMO sales. -K

Santiago Cortes Caldari Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.30 04:16:00 - [53] Locked CCP does punish ebayers which pretty much defeats the thread from the start. Dentara Rast being the most recent and high-profile perp brought to justice. eve-crc.net \| forum rules \| c.a.o.d forum rules \| [email protected]


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