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Fornacis
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.25 18:55:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Fornacis on 25/09/2006 19:01:55
The D7/HW siege was quite an experience. When you create a character in Eve you sit and dream of taking part in such a battle.
I didn't get to make the excursion to help D2 and friends (RL Stuff), so I was one of two that awoke that Saturday morning to 150+ TCF and pals in H-W. (Yes they have friends too) It had to be one of the most exciting feelings in EvE for me because TS was alive with action trying to get Morsus Mihi back to the region once relieved of our duties in helping friends. Since I was stuck in a POS (lucky my paranoia doesn't let me log in the station) there wasn't too much for me to do, so I sat and listened to TS for hours that day. I got to take part in several battles (RL allowing), and was with many of the D2/Razor/Guard/friends fleet battles holding gates and etc. I was very impressed with the commanders that kept things flowing as smooth as possible with so many pilots. RL deprived me of the last 2-3 weeks of action, and its something that I will regret.
So, I would like to think TCF for the relative smack free battles that I particpated in, and the fun talks that I had with some of the TCF guys in local. There will always be an ass in every corp/alliance that smacks it up, but I try not to let that get the best of me, and ruin my experience in EvE.
I would also like to think D2/Razor/Guard/MM/friends for giving me one of the dreams that I have had in Eve for almost 2 years. I hope to have RL sorted soon, and can't wait to participate in the next Battle/Siege/War in Tribute or down the road. Because I know it will come....there is always someone wanting to challenge your backyard, and this is what makes 0.0 a great place to be.
I would also like to think Morsus Mihi...you guys are the most honorable pilots that I've known in EvE, and your PvP skills always amaze me....especially the Serbs in 4S and Wepra...I've become very attached to Serbian Honor, Pride, Courage, Force, and Respect. You guys are truly an amazing people.
Thanks to all that tried to keep this thread smack free, and see you in space.
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FotoFlame
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.25 19:02:00 -
[152]
Congrats to RAWR and co.
D2 in particular for maintaining such strong form straight off the back of the Goon war.
~Foto
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StoreSlem
Minmatar
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.25 19:19:00 -
[153]
 Originally by: Rociel
Edited by: Rociel on 25/09/2006 18:22:12
Originally by: StoreSlem
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
Congratulations on only needing four months to retake a system with the help of several major alliances!
Congratulations on teaching your butt how to write.
"If you were experiencing a lag, it was not server related."
of course, there was only morsus which lag. TCF were arranged with the dev. to be only which not lag.
Congratulations on successfully quoting my signature on your second try.
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Khayman33
Caldari
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.25 20:39:00 -
[154]
First thanks to all involved party and especially for our leader who have the ball ( or stupidity :p ) to make this , he like challenge and we too .
Thanks to all our ennemies for one of the more great war in which I took part in this f****** game , and without smack in local or just a little bit :P
We tryed , we fail but we gain more comprehension about our military and logistic capacity and our team work.
D2 are hard to fight for sure ( and just D2 , RAZOR when they are in great form ;) ) and have very good FC .
MM i respect you for your tenacity 
See you in space soon ...
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Chee
Minmatar
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.25 22:01:00 -
[155]
I wasnt able to be online/participate as much as I wanted, but the fights I did have were entertaining. Got a huge dislike now for POS warfare tho, boring as hell. I can understand why red held out in the south and why the coalition there disgusts them.
TCF has a couple people I respect, try not to waste too much effort flaming here, save it for the fighting :D
Oh and for the argument about the north will now get lazy because of no hostiles:
If trouble doesnt get served at home, we can get it elsewhere, theres a whole universe out there. And venal will always have hostiles I guess.
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.25 22:05:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Kendar
Originally by: Kal'Kalagan
"...Morsus Mihi entered Tribute 4 months ago. With the swift retreat of its former residents we missed the opportunity to truly christen the region with the blood and gore."
It is not often that I get involved in these forums but I as a former resident of Tribute want to make one thing clear. The Forsaken Empire stood against -G- Alliance in a two week siege of Tribute, we took all they had to offer and survived.
Unfortunately internal political difficulties ended FE and what was left after that fell back to the Vale and formed VOID.
Morsus Mihi had previously tried to take Geminate from FE while we struggled against The Five, we removed them easily in comparison to -G- and I doubt without their D2 allies they would be holding Tribute now.
Tribute is now another example of a D2 puppet region, another buffer region there to protect them from the forces who could really challenge them. This is good planning on their part and I do not criticise them for it. However the petty alliances in these regions should not pretend they are anything special without their D2 sponsors.
Think you mixed up the facts there a bit, FE naped .5. and tryed to kick RAWR out of ls- but failed, .5. left ls- after loosing a few dreads in a pos siege, we came to an agreement we could use ls- for a few weeks to refill wallets and FE stoped claiming the parts of geminate we wanted to be neutral.
This is true. You guys put up a hell of a fight in ls-jep. We conceded alot to you guys to get peace. You guys were definatly a bigger headache for me than G/D2. However it is also true that we could never devote our full forces to fighting you guys in vale/geminate because we were constantly being attacked from both sides by big forces. We never really fought it out for more than a week at a time.
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.25 22:14:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Kal'Kalagan
Morsus Mihi had previously tried to take Geminate from FE while we struggled against The Five, we removed them easily in comparison to -G- and I doubt without their D2 allies they would be holding Tribute now.
Talk about not knowing your history. It was the Five who gave you back Ls-jep (which 4s/hirr took from you right before you allied the five), and as far as i can tell you never had geminate except in the fact it inhabitants where napped with you. The one pos you had there was a medium and it was destroyed without oposition by noobs from SNU. The NPC stations where firmly controlled by 4s & friends.
Alot of BS in that. We got LS back from diplomatic negotiations with shone. (very long dificult ones) It is true we didnt care much about geminate. The only reason we claimed geminate is because all i had to do to get it is say "FE now claims geminate" in the map thread. We never autherized even one fleet to go patrol geminate. We claimed it so we could divide it up into pieces and give it away to people in exchange for having people feel like they owed us something. We never really had any interest in the region.
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Kazaam
Caldari
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.25 22:59:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Kazaam on 25/09/2006 22:59:55
Thanks to everyone involved in this conflict. I'd like to say a few more things anyway :
- To Morsus Mihi & Co : "You" ( well D2 is more correct ) managed to stay in control of Tribute, with big-arses' help for sure. The Tau Ceti Federation recognize its defeat, no doubt about that, but come on... no need to crush our heads to underground. You should learn a bit more about respect imho. I think instead of smacking each other we should honor the fights we had there and just, you know, respect each other just for that.
- To D2 : Great job over there guys, with the conflict you had in the same time I can't remember where, you even managed to come back in tribute help you slav... err 'friends' and save their ( ...well YOUR ) teritory.
- To TCF & friends : Great job too over here guys. I'd like to especially thank the Logistic Teams, acting in background, making such an campaign possible :)
I'll simply end this post with a famous adage :
"What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger"
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Central Scrutinizer
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.25 23:26:00 -
[159]
Morsus Mihi has friends.
They should be absolutely ashamed of themselves, tbh.
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Gusar Mora
Caldari
Sun-inc
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Posted - 2006.09.26 01:00:00 -
[160]
wow so much crap from all sides, even BOB has felt to join in the flame fest hehehe. Well it still doesnt matter because in the end things will not change for tcf or their beagle corp mates etc.
For TCF like I said before , you ppl should be ashamed, from the rumors that hve been coming through you have been expeled from d7 by force as 4-5 of your pos's got destroyed.
There is no point going D2 king and all others are pupets. D2 is storngest allince in north but it defently needs smaller ones to survive, its symbionic relationship on both sides. Survval of the fitests.
Tfc you have shamed your selves in this war even tho you are trying to spin doctor it to you being victims. I guess for every d2,mm reply u have another five, as your alliance has nothing batter to do. From prevous threads on tribute war it can be clearly concluded that:
1) tcf used shutles to lag pos's
2) tcf used Bm's in cargo holds to lag the system
3) tcf only fought in large blob's otherwise they just sat at their pos all they
So their tactice was lag out and sitt it out till others get bored.guess it dont work and they lost like 60billion isk plus. Shame tcf.
They claim it was a good learning crve, we wanted it that way, but all I can conclude from that was this:
1) they went into it to loose
2) spent 60+billion of isk to get conquarble outpost,when they could of made 2 somwhere with that isk
3) leasson learned is FAILURE
4) Tcf is poor.
I dont know about rest of the eve , but as a forum ***** and being isk maniac, it hurts me to read so much waste isk on some attempt to learn fleet fighting ( so they claim). It clear that TCF leadership must change if they ever gona come back,otherwise ill be seeing em soon in empire .
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.26 01:15:00 -
[161]
Hmpf forum drama
Would have appriciated more good and lag free fights.
And about bob ppl teeling how we are like PA, i dont see too much of a real threat around ur terretory aswell with fix out of the way and ascn mining for their titan moduls. ;)
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cheru
nemo nobis impune lacessit
SynchronizerZ
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Posted - 2006.09.26 01:39:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Thecle Vifargent
Sadly, the war was great, the afterwar is only dumb flamewar :(
It was great fighting with all the allies.
It was great fighting (and dying) against TCF.
/signed
All propaganda aside I've seen great things on both sides in this war. Massive fleets of many different allys/corps of the coalition working together as one lead by excellent fleetcommanders as well as TCF bringing a good fight outnumbered and a generally smack free local chat, just to name a few.
Good fights > killboard statistics and spin imo, but that's just me...
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Aegis Osiris
Gallente
Demonic Retribution
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.26 03:01:00 -
[163]
Persh does, of course, have the whole history of the LS-JEP thing correct. Just wanted to add a little corraboration in for that, for the sake of history.
Also, to say...KOTH Fluf, what was with the smack in that convo? *shakes head* I'm surprised m8, wouldn't have expected that of you, but I guess EVE changed ya a bit, I remember you being a tad more level headed.
From what I've read (and voiding all the smack down the can), TCF chose a smart, if annoying, time to attack, and generally put up stiff resistance. The North formed up and eventually overwhelmed them, hardly a shocking outcome all things considered.
Could MM have ousted TCF alone? Probably not, but we'll never know.
Is it suprising that MM had friends who wanted to come to the party? Nope, and thinking different is just delusional.
So, GG too all involved on making the north interesting for a while. Now what are you gonna do? Cause its gonna get REAL boring up there.... 
Final comment on this (not that ya care). While its all well and good for an alliance to have friends, I always considered it kind of a prerequisite that any reasonable 0.0 alliance worth the name would be able to stand up on its own two feet against any reasonable threat. If you can't, then you have serious problems.
If you can't, then why are you an alliance at all?
Glad you got the node reinforced at least, after living there so long I swear it was on the same node as Jita lol.
GL and don't fly safe, cause it's boring.
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kashkaisha
Minmatar
Legion Du Lys
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.26 03:53:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Gusar Mora
wow so much crap from all sides, even BOB has felt to join in the flame fest hehehe. Well it still doesnt matter because in the end things will not change for tcf or their beagle corp mates etc.
For TCF like I said before , you ppl should be ashamed, from the rumors that hve been coming through you have been expeled from d7 by force as 4-5 of your pos's got destroyed.
There is no point going D2 king and all others are pupets. D2 is storngest allince in north but it defently needs smaller ones to survive, its symbionic relationship on both sides. Survval of the fitests.
Tfc you have shamed your selves in this war even tho you are trying to spin doctor it to you being victims. I guess for every d2,mm reply u have another five, as your alliance has nothing batter to do. From prevous threads on tribute war it can be clearly concluded that:
1) tcf used shutles to lag pos's
2) tcf used Bm's in cargo holds to lag the system
3) tcf only fought in large blob's otherwise they just sat at their pos all they
So their tactice was lag out and sitt it out till others get bored.guess it dont work and they lost like 60billion isk plus. Shame tcf.
They claim it was a good learning crve, we wanted it that way, but all I can conclude from that was this:
1) they went into it to loose
2) spent 60+billion of isk to get conquarble outpost,when they could of made 2 somwhere with that isk
3) leasson learned is FAILURE
4) Tcf is poor.
I dont know about rest of the eve , but as a forum ***** and being isk maniac, it hurts me to read so much waste isk on some attempt to learn fleet fighting ( so they claim). It clear that TCF leadership must change if they ever gona come back,otherwise ill be seeing em soon in empire .
hum, post whit your main ?
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.26 04:35:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
And about bob ppl teeling how we are like PA, i dont see too much of a real threat around ur terretory aswell with fix out of the way and ascn mining for their titan moduls. ;)
Thats exactly what PA would have said.
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Adam C
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.26 04:48:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Adam C on 26/09/2006 04:49:12
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
And about bob ppl teeling how we are like PA, i dont see too much of a real threat around ur terretory aswell with fix out of the way and ascn mining for their titan moduls. ;)
Thats exactly what PA would have said.
where is killa vex he would know how to sort this problem out
am i right men
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Dracolich
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.09.26 04:55:00 -
[167]
Originally by: WiseMagic
Originally by: Dracolich
Does my eyes deceive me, or does it look like some x-FA vs some x-FA? On a further note... It looks like all had their fun during this process. On yet another note, if MM wanted TCF to come, what did they want to prove? How strong the north stands together, or did they want to test their own strength?(I sincerely hope that MM do not consider this as smack, coz its not intended).
SmackSmackSmack uhh is funny when people are ****ed off because they lost there homes all they are left with is there smack.
But to ur post yeah u could say that there were x FA on both sides but still if one writes its not intended as smack then it usualy is.
Eh, I am in a merc corp, thus I have no political stance, I was just curious, cause I found the comment interesting about MM wanted TCF to come. Oh well, kladdkaka to everyone.
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Shadowsword
Gallente
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.26 05:49:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Shadowsword on 26/09/2006 05:53:41
Originally by: kashkaisha
Originally by: Gusar Mora
...biggest load os BS of the whole thread...
hum, post whit your main ?
Hasty post ftl, buddy. He's an ODN. Maybe he think not showing his corp ans passing as a neutral will give more weight to his words?
I won't stoop so low as to debunk all the BS coming out of him, it would be pointless anyway as he'd probably just repeat the same arguments afterward...
Just a short history lesson for those who might wonder just who he is:
A few months ago, Galactic Aphalion was in the north of Venal, based on a few POSes, firmly sided with the coalition, and fairly active against TCF, despite their relative small size. Most of them were, and still are, nice guys. ODN was member of GA. Then TCF choosed to concentrate efforts against them, and after 3 days of intense warfare, all the GA POSes were in reinforced. GA then asked for a cease-fire, and, after a few talks, an agreement was reached: TCF would let GA evacuate it's assets and POS, and GA would leave Venal and never fight TCF again. So they got their stuff out. Soon after, ODN left GA, and we started seeing them in hostiles gangs again. Their leadership was contacted about that, and their answer was, in short: "We didn't agreed with the rest of GA with the cease-fire, so we can attack you".
Of course, this argument is full of holes. They didn't voice their opposition back then, and they used the cease-fire they were opposed to to put their assets out of harm's way. And they stopped firing on us while they got their stuff out. Peculiar behaviour for enemies who still want to fight, isn't it?
As far as TCF is concerned, there will never be any more diplomatic talk with them. ODN members are liars that haven't got over the kicking they got, and that explain that kind of post they make.
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Iudex
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.09.26 05:51:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Miss Lilly
Morsus Mihi Press Release regarding Tribute region
Tribute - the whole Tribute - is now unequivocally our home. Those who violate it will find, as TCF has found, just how hard we hit, and how deep our determination runs. If you want to have peaceful entry to our home region, contact one of our diplomats. If you want to have fights, we'll be here. In numbers.
Have to confirm this.
Few days ago i was flying around in low-sec with my tech 2 fitted raven, looking for adventures and such .. unfortunately i entered tribute somehow. Man, those morsus mihi guys (shiva corp in my case) were very trigger-happy - my raven was away in like 5 seconds .. never lost 200m that fast before. Not good to go there if you are not an signed blue 
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General Furyan
Legion Du Lys
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.26 06:04:00 -
[170]
Hello everyone,
first, gratz to MM and Northern coalition for this great war and for there victory! I didn't read all the thread because i hate smack and stupid comment from both side, but especially when it come from someone in my Alliance.
I think we did great for the size of our alliance. I also think 4S are a great corporation and i know some of them for a long time and beleive me, they can kick ass. I knew that before getting in this war.
The only thing i will say in favor of TCF is that thinking that they will disband is not knowing them. Also, we can be beat in conquerable region by numbers, but it will be much harder for NPC region.
Once again, congratz to MM and the northern coalition, they started slowy but the last week show us they can play togheter pretty well! See you in space :-)
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Graalum
Foundation
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Posted - 2006.09.26 06:19:00 -
[171]
Edited by: Graalum on 26/09/2006 06:21:06
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Kal'Kalagan
Morsus Mihi had previously tried to take Geminate from FE while we struggled against The Five, we removed them easily in comparison to -G- and I doubt without their D2 allies they would be holding Tribute now.
Talk about not knowing your history. It was the Five who gave you back Ls-jep (which 4s/hirr took from you right before you allied the five), and as far as i can tell you never had geminate except in the fact it inhabitants where napped with you. The one pos you had there was a medium and it was destroyed without oposition by noobs from SNU. The NPC stations where firmly controlled by 4s & friends.
Alot of BS in that. We got LS back from diplomatic negotiations with shone. (very long dificult ones) It is true we didnt care much about geminate. The only reason we claimed geminate is because all i had to do to get it is say "FE now claims geminate" in the map thread. We never autherized even one fleet to go patrol geminate. We claimed it so we could divide it up into pieces and give it away to people in exchange for having people feel like they owed us something. We never really had any interest in the region.
I was noob at the time, and never really allowed to participate much up there so my history was still a bit fuzzy. Anyways, I do now remember that is was atuk, not fe that "ran away", and i did remember that MM stayed in ls- for a bit after the shooting stopped. Anyways the point is the same, that FE did not easily remove MM from ls-jep, unless you consider negotiated settlement easy.
SNU was lucky that geminate was crappy enough for FE not to care. Looking back some more, and comparing what my corp of part-time pvpers was able to do to an alliance of similar skill and organization (though not size) to snu, even a single large corp of FE could have broken all but perhaps the core of SNU, and probably even that, too.
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Shittake
RONA Deepspace
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.09.26 06:19:00 -
[172]
Congratulations to both sides in this effort.
The Morsus Mihi folks rallied allies to their side to eventually prevail, and Tau Ceti gave it their all. My corp was once alligned with Tau Ceti and are now adversaries, but they deserve alot of credit for keeping the "heat on" in this battle, even though they did not prevail. Good game to everyone involved - both sides should feel good about what they did regardless of the outcome.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.26 08:02:00 -
[173]
Krullz is my middle name.
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grizouh
Tri Optimum
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.26 08:30:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Nafri
a bit of forum drama is never bad, especially when your bored 
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DeadDuck
Amarr
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.26 10:27:00 -
[175]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
And about bob ppl teeling how we are like PA, i dont see too much of a real threat around ur terretory aswell with fix out of the way and ascn mining for their titan moduls. ;)
Thats exactly what PA would have said.
I really dont understand the analogy between D2 and PA ... well they are in the same region, but errr thats all  Does anyone care to explain me that ?
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Evil D4rk
Caldari
Atlas Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.09.26 10:41:00 -
[176]
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
And about bob ppl teeling how we are like PA, i dont see too much of a real threat around ur terretory aswell with fix out of the way and ascn mining for their titan moduls. ;)
Thats exactly what PA would have said.
I really dont understand the analogy between D2 and PA ... well they are in the same region, but errr thats all Does anyone care to explain me that ?
No they won't because the more comparisons made between D2 and PA, the more comparison that can be made between BOB and D2 and BOB and PA.
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:56:00 -
[177]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
And about bob ppl teeling how we are like PA, i dont see too much of a real threat around ur terretory aswell with fix out of the way and ascn mining for their titan moduls. ;)
Thats exactly what PA would have said.
Post with ur main
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RTSQ PvPWallet
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Posted - 2006.09.26 13:03:00 -
[178]
Edited by: RTSQ PvPWallet on 26/09/2006 13:03:03
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S9000
Russian Thunder Squad
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Posted - 2006.09.26 13:03:00 -
[179]
Tnx for TCF.
We remain near to you and we shall continue to battle together.
GJ d2.
P.S. Thanks for RAZOR, only at you really fair killboard. (D2 not)
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Dekiri
Useless Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.26 13:38:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Dekiri on 26/09/2006 13:38:12
Since apparently noone has pulled out that gag yet i would like to announce it here and now.
On the behalf of useless inc. i would like to say that i am always happy to see one of these roleplayer alliances achieve something!
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