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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.23 08:39:52 -
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I don't have anything against CODE and quite frankly as a cloaky pilot that spends most of his time in w-space, lowsec and null I've been mostly ignorant about who the hell they were. What does annoy me is the constant bawing and whining from the carebear community that will write up tear infested "woe is me" threads. So i'm going to offer you people (yeah YOU PEOPLE I SAID IT) some advice the very same way I would one of my clients...but less nice because you aren't paying me.
I don't know if this will get moderated out but watch this video. Although we're not dealing with the specific issues outlined in the video, the concepts cross over. CODE numbers are smaller than that of all the highsec miners. They have organization, individual benefits, selective incentives, and a focus on what they want to do. Most of all this focus is based on co-operation with other members within their group.
Miners on the other hand don't really benefit from working together. Usually they are rivals over common resources. There's no personal incentive to "try to do something about CODE" other than some whiny waterworks show on a forum that'll get the writer ridiculed and laughed at. Someone except someone else to "do something about it" thus introducing the free-rider problem. So what can be done?
1. Quit making whiny bawfest threads that annoy me and make you look like an idiot. HTFU
2. Stop flying T2 mining vessels. You're in highsec ffs. There is literally no reason for you to fly a 200 mil mining vessel. It's like taking a Nightmare or Marauder out belt ratting in some 0.9 system. Put an ECM and/or T1 logi alt in belt with you and fit your mining ships for buffer so they can catch reps. Do it on your passive income PI/research/whatever you do account.
3. Gank the gankers. Gankers generally use cheap blasterfit catys to knock your mining vessels back into the ore field whence they came from. It's a question of economics. They lose a cheap ship while you lose a more expensive one. Solution? Fit a cheaper ship and gank their ganking ships. Seriously a gank caty has **** all for tank, you could do it in t1 frigates.
4. Now most of the miners are going to free ride regardless. Those people can go **** themselves. You need to find the half dozen other groups that have followed the above steps and pool some isk together and hire mercs. Which ones? Well it's a question of numbers really so with Marmite and Forsaken having the best mix of numbers, those two should cripple some of the mobility of CODE.
5. No one is going to solve your problems for you. That's why they're called YOUR problems. And no one's interested in turning Eve into a ****** theme park WoW-fest spaceship farmsville simulator. Some of the things spouted by some miners here is enough to make even non CODE members go gank you.
This message was brought to you by the "Seraph IX Basarab, make CP forums less ****** initiative" and the "Baby Seal Preservation Foundation." Funding provided by tears from badposters like you.
Hades Effect
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Piz Caldera
Saubaer Schweinepriester
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Posted - 2015.01.23 09:58:58 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:I pilot that spends most of his time in w-space, lowsec and null I've been mostly ignorant
Sir, do you fly with a Code. Permit? |
Siegfried Cohenberg
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2015.01.23 13:11:11 -
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inb4 locked because redundant thread |
Kane Ceres
Makiriemi Industries
7
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Posted - 2015.01.23 16:38:27 -
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the problem isnt that they need to go find a group or organize. If miners followed the common sense stuff the code actually do say; Tank your ship, be at your keyboard and attentive and be prepared for **** to hit the fan. Then there would be a lot less ganks and gankable targets.
The code can do what they do because of the herd mentality of miners, even if some are smart so they tank their ship, watch dscan and local. there will be 10 other miners in the same system with no tank and not realizing they are dead until 5 min after the gank. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19501
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Posted - 2015.01.23 17:54:29 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote: Some of the things spouted by some miners here is enough to make even non CODE members go gank you.
Quoted for truth.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
876
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:12:02 -
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Dear miners and other HS carebears, what the OP has said is true. You should read it and absorb it instead of threatening to kill the family members of the guys who gank you.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19507
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:19:38 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Dear miners and other HS carebears, what the OP has said is true. You should read it and absorb it instead of threatening to kill the family members of the guys who gank you.
Um.. wait.. I thought it was CODE. who were the sociopaths here..
Surely people like miners, who constantly make threads that call CODE. sociopaths, wouldn't in fact prove themselves to be the true sociopaths.. would they?!??!?!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
876
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:22:11 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Dear miners and other HS carebears, what the OP has said is true. You should read it and absorb it instead of threatening to kill the family members of the guys who gank you. Um.. wait.. I thought it was CODE. who were the sociopaths here.. Surely people like miners, who constantly make threads that call CODE. sociopaths, wouldn't in fact prove themselves to be the true sociopaths.. would they?!??!?!
If only it were so.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Azov Rassau
Neo CONCORD
143
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:23:06 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote: Some of the things spouted by some miners here is enough to make even non CODE members go gank you. yep, I'm not a ganker, but some of those carebear insults were so heavy that I remember ending up bumping those guys out of range when I had time... the results were quite satisfying, and yeah it was fun. when I get back I might even contact some large high sec groups to destroy a few care bear corps who annoy me with their arrogant and greedy attitude.
however, I still prefer ganker tears.
and I agree with the OP: there is a serious amount of whining threads regularly created in C&P by the gank-victim carebears. While some of them learn a lesson and tank their ships, others come to forums and cry. yet they have everything they need to avoid the ganks...
another thing I've noticed: those whining threads are quite similar to each other. even the replies are all similar because people end up replying in the same way. so similar that I have made the following observation with time:
a typical whining thread in C&P will usually go like this:
1) the carebear creates the thread with a long wall of text, involving not-so-stealth "Grr CODE", about why CONCORD should be buffed, ganking should be nerfed and all gankers are basement sociopaths who are real life murderers blah blah etc. etc.
(a quick killboard check of his character will usually show a very recent mining barge/orca loss to gankers. what a coincidence!)
2) Unsuccessful At Everything's reaction
3) Paranoid Loyd's reaction
4) loyalanon's reaction
5) Cannibal Kane's reaction
6) Jonah Gravenstein's reaction
7) Feyd Rautha Harkonnen's reaction
Did I forget somebody? Yeah I think I did..
8) Veers Belvar's reaction
9) thread locked.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19508
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:47:38 -
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Fixed #9
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
876
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:13:40 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Seems pretty accurate.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
396
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Posted - 2015.01.23 21:38:47 -
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That expression just about covers it
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
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Zepher Helen Hawat
ULTRAMAR SECURITIES
32
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Posted - 2015.01.23 21:41:17 -
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Azov Rassau wrote:[quote=Seraph IX Basarab] another thing I've noticed: those whining threads are quite similar to each other. even the replies are all similar because people end up replying in the same way. so similar that I have made the following observation with time: a typical whining thread in C&P will usually go like this:1) the carebear creates the thread with a long wall of text, involving not-so-stealth "Grr CODE", about why CONCORD should be buffed, ganking should be nerfed and all gankers are basement sociopaths who are real life murderers blah blah etc. etc. (a quick killboard check of his character will usually show a very recent mining barge/orca loss to gankers. what a coincidence!) 2) Unsuccessful At Everything's reaction3) Paranoid Loyd's reaction 4) loyalanon's reaction5) Cannibal Kane's reaction6) Jonah Gravenstein's reaction7) Feyd Rautha Harkonnen's reactionDid I forget somebody? Yeah I think I did.. 8) Veers Belvar's reaction9) thread locked. <3 C&P
It would only allow me to give you a +1 one for that post. Best laugh I've had in a week. Thank you!
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Paranoid Loyd
3617
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:06:05 -
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"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Cannibal Kane
Blood Raiders Elite
4675
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:19:58 -
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Hey now....
Did you choose Obama because he is black and I am from Africa?
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
878
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:49:55 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Hey now....
Did you choose Obama because he is black and I am from Africa?
I interpreted it as being because of the cold stare that says "I'm coming for you."
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11412
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Posted - 2015.01.23 23:05:14 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Hey now....
Did you choose Obama because he is black and I am from Africa? I interpreted it as being because of the cold stare that says "I'm coming for you."
"You can't just ask somebody why they're white!"
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Quantum Distributions
1373
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Posted - 2015.01.23 23:59:56 -
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Best thread in the past month. Thanks Seraph and Azov.
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Damnskippy
Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel
15
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Posted - 2015.01.24 02:49:03 -
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Azov Rassau wrote:[quote=Seraph IX Basarab] another thing I've noticed: those whining threads are quite similar to each other. even the replies are all similar because people end up replying in the same way. so similar that I have made the following observation with time: a typical whining thread in C&P will usually go like this:1) the carebear creates the thread with a long wall of text, involving not-so-stealth "Grr CODE", about why CONCORD should be buffed, ganking should be nerfed and all gankers are basement sociopaths who are real life murderers blah blah etc. etc. (a quick killboard check of his character will usually show a very recent mining barge/orca loss to gankers. what a coincidence!) 2) Unsuccessful At Everything's reaction3) Paranoid Loyd's reaction 4) loyalanon's reaction5) Cannibal Kane's reaction6) Jonah Gravenstein's reaction7) Feyd Rautha Harkonnen's reactionDid I forget somebody? Yeah I think I did.. 8) Veers Belvar's reaction9) thread locked. <3 C&P
I can only like this post once. So, I think I'm going to go donate some catalyst to Code in your honor.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2235
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Posted - 2015.01.24 10:42:10 -
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Came expecting another whine thread, left pleasantly surprised (and chuckling at Azov's most excellent post).
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Mag's
the united
18823
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Posted - 2015.01.24 13:19:39 -
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Great thread. Have a snipe.
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It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1113
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Posted - 2015.01.24 13:45:49 -
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*clicks on loyals reaction*
*rofls so hard he passes out*
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Chocolate Mooses
The Conference Elite CODE.
0
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Posted - 2015.01.25 08:40:20 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:You need to find the half dozen other groups that have followed the above steps and pool some isk together and hire mercs. Which ones? Well it's a question of numbers really so with Marmite and Forsaken having the best mix of numbers, those two should cripple some of the mobility of CODE.
much good post until this part. hiring "mercs" against the CODE. alliance = giving your ISK away to someone for literally 0 results. look how hard we trashed the noble mermaids led by the brave tomato burrito (space bushido!) in their little war campaign. is that even still going on? and who hires "mercs" to war dec a bunch of -10 sec players anyway? you don't even need a war, just a gun.
these miners think the CODE. is running some huge scam by offering mining permits for a whopping 10 million ISK per year, someone get tora to pop into this thread plz and disclose how many hundreds of billions he has taken from angry miners with promises of having some effect against the CODE. alliance, please. you want a scam, miners, there's your big scam right in front of your eyes. word is that he's been doing this for years now.
also, your post fails to state the most obvious fact which is that the CODE always wins. always!
on the other hand, your post inspired good reaction gifs and made me laugh and told the carebears to HTFU and stop crying for just one more nerf, just one more nerf please oh ccp save us so we can fly untanked hulks while farmvilling like the space god intended
also veers has not started ranting here about real life criminals and cybertorture or calling people idiots yet so my final score is
overall 7.2285 out of 10 would click again |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1119
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Posted - 2015.01.28 12:58:07 -
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having just come from another CODE initiation, I thought I would share this ultra-top-secret footage of the event.
Many carebears were ganked for this footage........
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
67
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Posted - 2015.01.28 16:58:02 -
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Chocolate Mooses wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:You need to find the half dozen other groups that have followed the above steps and pool some isk together and hire mercs. Which ones? Well it's a question of numbers really so with Marmite and Forsaken having the best mix of numbers, those two should cripple some of the mobility of CODE.
much good post until this part. hiring "mercs" against the CODE. alliance = giving your ISK away to someone for literally 0 results. look how hard we trashed the noble mermaids led by the brave tomato burrito (space bushido!) in their little war campaign. is that even still going on? and who hires "mercs" to war dec a bunch of -10 sec players anyway? you don't even need a war, just a gun. these miners think the CODE. is running some huge scam by offering mining permits for a whopping 10 million ISK per year, someone get tora to pop into this thread plz and disclose how many hundreds of billions he has taken from angry miners with promises of having some effect against the CODE. alliance, please. you want a scam, miners, there's your big scam right in front of your eyes. word is that he's been doing this for years now. also, your post fails to state the most obvious fact which is that the CODE always wins. always! on the other hand, your post inspired good reaction gifs and made me laugh and told the carebears to HTFU and stop crying for just one more nerf, just one more nerf please oh ccp save us so we can fly untanked hulks while farmvilling like the space god intended also veers has not started ranting here about real life criminals and cybertorture or calling people idiots yet so my final score is overall 7.2285 out of 10 would click again
lol@ how Dream Five sent Tora 300 million isk only to see them lose 2 billion isk and only deal 500 mill in damage(mostly pods, only 9 destroyers).
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Dark Hominy
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2015.01.30 17:23:25 -
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Chocolate Mooses wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:You need to find the half dozen other groups that have followed the above steps and pool some isk together and hire mercs. Which ones? Well it's a question of numbers really so with Marmite and Forsaken having the best mix of numbers, those two should cripple some of the mobility of CODE.
much good post until this part. hiring "mercs" against the CODE. alliance = giving your ISK away to someone for literally 0 results. look how hard we trashed the noble mermaids led by the brave tomato burrito (space bushido!) in their little war campaign. is that even still going on? and who hires "mercs" to war dec a bunch of -10 sec players anyway? you don't even need a war, just a gun. these miners think the CODE. is running some huge scam by offering mining permits for a whopping 10 million ISK per year, someone get tora to pop into this thread plz and disclose how many hundreds of billions he has taken from angry miners with promises of having some effect against the CODE. alliance, please. you want a scam, miners, there's your big scam right in front of your eyes. word is that he's been doing this for years now. also, your post fails to state the most obvious fact which is that the CODE always wins. always! on the other hand, your post inspired good reaction gifs and made me laugh and told the carebears to HTFU and stop crying for just one more nerf, just one more nerf please oh ccp save us so we can fly untanked hulks while farmvilling like the space god intended also veers has not started ranting here about real life criminals and cybertorture or calling people idiots yet so my final score is overall 7.2285 out of 10 would click again
Many people would rather spend billions for a good cause than spend pennies to an extortionist.
Because spending billions on a good cause is doing something about it, amirite? |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2246
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Posted - 2015.01.30 21:40:36 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:lol@ how Dream Five sent Tora 300 million isk only to see them lose 2 billion isk and only deal 500 mill in damage(mostly pods, only 9 destroyers).
Dream Five is a hero of the New Order, in addition to being a previous winner of our Dummy of the Week competition.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
76
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Posted - 2015.01.30 21:51:11 -
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admiral root wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:lol@ how Dream Five sent Tora 300 million isk only to see them lose 2 billion isk and only deal 500 mill in damage(mostly pods, only 9 destroyers). Dream Five is a hero of the New Order, in addition to being a previous winner of our Dummy of the Week competition.
Let me guess, her "Strategic" move to lose a second freighter an hour after the first, won her that award? |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
1015
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Posted - 2015.01.31 03:50:08 -
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Quote:Stop flying T2 mining vessels. You're in highsec ffs. There is literally no reason for you to fly a 200 mil mining vessel.
Are you for real? Tell me you're not for real?
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Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2015.01.31 12:44:09 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Quote:Stop flying T2 mining vessels. You're in highsec ffs. There is literally no reason for you to fly a 200 mil mining vessel. Are you for real? Tell me you're not for real? It's a legit survival technique. It's called cheap-tanking. Not sure I'd say there's no reason to fly T2, though. If I were to mine, I'd be tempted to settle for T1 while just AFK mining. If I get blow'd up, so what? It's only a 30mil ISK loss.
People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
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