Caldari are missile based. Not Gallente based. If I wanted a hybrid boat I'd go for the Talos, which by the way is almost exactly the same. Why release a beam ship, an artillery boat, and then 2 hybrid boats. How is that even balanced. That basically gives all missile users the finger, a caldari player have to skill up in Hybrid turrets just to use it. ((To clarify, I already have all the skills for large hybrid but alot of my corpies don't. They teched up to Ravens and scorps, so they cant use a ship of their own race because they don't have the weapons for it.))

Simply put, we don't need a hybrid ship, there were no missile ships released in this patch and there should have been. It's not fair for caldari players that you release two gallente ships in one patch.

-Hellz

But all of those give you the option of doing a hybrid/ missile boat. They give you the option of adding in missiles should you so desire, the Naga doesn't give you the same freedom. Therefore, not working as intended.

Yeah I'm a big fan of my blaster/torp rokh.

Well the thread's not about your sarcastic replies about whether or not you think a torp/blaster rokh is effective. The threads about the fact that we got 4 new ships released and 2 of them were almost identical, using the same weapon class, and missiles didn't get any sorta love this patch.

You mean the jewcrew did not get any love from the new ships...am I right?

I'm glad to see another Caldari hybrid boat, especially in the form of a battlecruiser. I'd also like to see the Tengu's hybrid sub get some improvements. Saying Caldari are missile-only is like saying Amarr are laser only: you have to ignore several good ships to make that claim.

True, but when you think of Amarr, you think of lasers, Minimatar is projectile weapons, Gallente is hybrids, and Caldari are missiles. Every other race got a ship in line with their primary weapons system, which ensures that a majority of the people that fly that race are able to effectively use the ship.

True, but when you think of Amarr, you think of lasers, Minimatar is projectile weapons, Gallente is hybrids, and Caldari are missiles. Every other race got a ship in line with their primary weapons system, which ensures that a majority of the people that fly that race are able to effectively use the ship.

Every race has a primary and secondary weapon system.

Gallente: Hybrids and drones.
Caldari: Hybrids and missiles.
Amarr: Lasers and missiles/drones.
Minmitar: Projectiles and missiles.

The only reason people THINK "Gallente's primary weapons are drones" and "Caldari's primary weapons are missiles" is because of the poor state that hybrid weapons have been in for so long. With the recent buff this is less the case.

Every race has a primary and secondary weapon system.

Gallente: Hybrids and drones.
Caldari: Hybrids and missiles.
Amarr: Lasers and missiles/drones.
Minmitar: Projectiles and missiles.

The only reason people THINK "Gallente's primary weapons are drones" and "Caldari's primary weapons are missiles" is because of the poor state that hybrid weapons have been in for so long. With the recent buff this is less the case.

Caldari are missile based. Not Gallente based. If I wanted a hybrid boat I'd go for the Talos, which by the way is almost exactly the same. Why release a beam ship, an artillery boat, and then 2 hybrid boats. How is that even balanced. That basically gives all missile users the finger, a caldari player have to skill up in Hybrid turrets just to use it. ((To clarify, I already have all the skills for large hybrid but alot of my corpies don't. They teched up to Ravens and scorps, so they cant use a ship of their own race because they don't have the weapons for it.))

Simply put, we don't need a hybrid ship, there were no missile ships released in this patch and there should have been. It's not fair for caldari players that you release two gallente ships in one patch.

-Hellz

Not the other way around mate. Other wise you'd have two races with the same primary weapons systems which would be awkward and unbalanced.

Caldari are missile based. Not Gallente based. If I wanted a hybrid boat I'd go for the Talos, which by the way is almost exactly the same. Why release a beam ship, an artillery boat, and then 2 hybrid boats. How is that even balanced. That basically gives all missile users the finger, a caldari player have to skill up in Hybrid turrets just to use it. ((To clarify, I already have all the skills for large hybrid but alot of my corpies don't. They teched up to Ravens and scorps, so they cant use a ship of their own race because they don't have the weapons for it.))

Simply put, we don't need a hybrid ship, there were no missile ships released in this patch and there should have been. It's not fair for caldari players that you release two gallente ships in one patch.

-Hellz

Every race uses multiple weapons systems. Some even use both armor and shield tanking. Caldari have plenty of very VERY good missile ships and now they have a viable hybrid boat, stop crying and train for the rest of your race's weapons, its your (or your corpies') fault for putting yourselves in a limited number of ships.


Also I like how you say the oracle is meant to use BEAMS

Caldari tears best tears.

Actually if you really want to get technical Caldrai were fighter based.

Proof or it didn't happen :P

The Caldari hoped their small, fast one-man fighters would run circles around the Gallente ships. From
http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=aug01

Amarr have missile ships. Why wasn't their Tier 3 battlecruiser missile based. CCP I demand missiles for this!

Gallente are known for drones. CCP DRONES FOR TIER 3 BC!

Seriously dude, stop crying about this. Its not that big a deal. Hybrid Naga is a pretty cool boat, tell your friends to stop being useless carebears and train something other than missile boats.

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No, you specifically said beams. And if you actually did have a good understanding of racial weapons systems then you wouldn't have made this topic. Caldari have 2 primary weapons so you can't only train one and expect to fly every new Caldari ship right when it comes out. Sure hybrids suck(ed?), so its understandable that people wouldn't be inclined to train them over missiles, but CCP stated that they would be getting some love, even after Crucible's initial launch. That anyone didn't train them in anticipation of that (especially if it is their own race's weapons) is their own fault.


Besides 8 torps would have either been totally useless or stupidly overpowered

They have a primary and a secondary. All their combat ships have missile slots, Except the Naga, however, not all of their ships have hybrid slots. Which makes Hybrids the secondary weapon system, due to missiles being the more prominent weapon system on Caldari ships.