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Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.28 09:28:00 - [61] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 28/09/2006 09:28:55 Originally by: Arushia Originally by: Archbishop The scriptures clearly state the facts. The Amarr are the chosen of God. Yes. I'm sure your scriptures claim you are the chosen of your god. Your god-granted victory over the Jovians proves this... oh wait, you lost VakÆAtioth, and rather badly too. They're not our scriptures. They're God's scriptures. He didn't just create us. He created you, too. It was only a small fleet that was defeated at Vak'Atioth. If we were beaten so badly, why didn't the Jovians press home their supposed advantage? Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Nolin Riis Gallente Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.28 10:41:00 - [62] Originally by: Rodj Blake A few undeclared colonies and an assault on a city justifies the attempted destuction of an entire planet? How very egalitarian of you. When did justification come into this? We could yell until we're blue in the face about the decision to bombard Caldari Prime. The point is, that so many Caldari love to romanticize about how they were victims to the terrible Gallente and the great war between them was completely in self defense. Well, that's just plain false. Not to say the Gallente are blameless, but illegally founding colonies and then blowing up an underwater city does not, by any convolution of logic, constitute "an expression of freedom." If anything, its a barbaric expression of xenophobia.
Idaeus Gallente Earned In Blood	Posted - 2006.09.28 11:30:00 - [63] Originally by: Rodj Blake They're not our scriptures. They're God's scriptures. He didn't just create us. He created you, too. It was only a small fleet that was defeated at Vak'Atioth. If we were beaten so badly, why didn't the Jovians press home their supposed advantage? Because the Jovians had no desire to muck about with a lesser race. They were attacked (by you), struck back and defeated your "small" fleet. After that lesson was taught you simply weren't worthy of their attention anymore. +IOI?
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.28 11:39:00 - [64] Originally by: Nolin Riis Originally by: Rodj Blake A few undeclared colonies and an assault on a city justifies the attempted destuction of an entire planet? How very egalitarian of you. When did justification come into this? We could yell until we're blue in the face about the decision to bombard Caldari Prime. The point is, that so many Caldari love to romanticize about how they were victims to the terrible Gallente and the great war between them was completely in self defense. Well, that's just plain false. Not to say the Gallente are blameless, but illegally founding colonies and then blowing up an underwater city does not, by any convolution of logic, constitute "an expression of freedom." If anything, its a barbaric expression of xenophobia. I'm glad that you accept that violent acts do not constitute an expression of freedom. I assume that means that you'll be condemning the actions of Minmatar terrorists who kill in the name of freedom. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Galactic Express The Guardian Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.28 16:30:00 - [65] Right, to give you a taste of your own medicine, Amarrians - your beliefs are not based on the Gallentean Constitution, and thus are completely invalid. It is hereby illegal for anyone - ANYONE anywhere within New Eden to espouse a viewpoint that isn't completely in line with that Constitution. I will not accept the validity of any argument against this because the Constitution was written by democrats, who are the supreme beings within this world and therefore must be correct in all matters. Any further argument on this subject is completely invalid and will not be accepted. We are correct, you are wrong. This is exactly the way Amarrians argue, except in reverse. Note that I am not actaully espousing the above viewpoint - that would be ludicrous. It's just an example. But here's my viewpoint: all Amarrians, save the few that do not endorse slavery or murder in the name of their God, are always, always wrong. No matter what they're talking about or doing. THAT is my viewpoint and I will henceforth treat any argument from an Amarrian who supports slavery or the current Emperor's rule (which is, even by your government's own standards, illegitimate, hence why the Khanid rebelled against it) is completely and irretrievably incorrect. You're all idiots and I hope you die in a fire.
Thomas Maleficus Caldari Ravenusque	Posted - 2006.09.28 17:13:00 - [66] Sorry could you point the way to HOLOVID PLEASURE PALACE? My usual spot for holo-****, Dale Hendricks Horny Holo's has moved to a riskier but more profitable low sec area. Excuse me for sayin so but I'll take a holoreel of raunchiness before I'll ever buy into your false god crap. I'll be out enjoying life while you praise your non-existent god for the rest of your boring life. Your god isn't dead, he never existed. Pirates stole my signature.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.28 19:39:00 - [67] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris But here's my viewpoint: all Amarrians, save the few that do not endorse slavery or murder in the name of their God, are always, always wrong. No matter what they're talking about or doing. THAT is my viewpoint and I will henceforth treat any argument from an Amarrian who supports slavery or the current Emperor's rule (which is, even by your government's own standards, illegitimate, hence why the Khanid rebelled against it) is completely and irretrievably incorrect. You're all idiots and I hope you die in a fire. It looks like a nerve has been struck. I'm sure that as far as you're concerned, I'm wrong about that though. After all, I'm Amarrian. If I may point out a factual error in your statement though - there is no current Emperor. I'd also like to point out that that the Khanidians tend be more agressive slavers than those Amarrians in the Empire, which as you consider Khanid II to be the legitimate ruler of Amarr, seems to suggest that you do in fact support slavery after all. And by your own logic, that means that you're wrong about every thing. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Babs Johnson MetaForge Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:49:00 - [68] I for one have realized how pointless it is to debate an Amarrian. Unlike the countless altarboys who have visited Archbishop's chambers each night, the wall of Amarrian pigheadedness is simply impenetrable.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Galactic Express The Guardian Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.28 22:50:00 - [69] Sorry Rodj, you're an Amarrian who supports slavery. Therefore, you are wrong.
Nooey Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.29 00:37:00 - [70] Babs wins. STAND FIRM WITH GOD! ____

Nolin Riis Gallente Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.29 01:39:00 - [71] Originally by: Rodj Blake I'm glad that you accept that violent acts do not constitute an expression of freedom. I assume that means that you'll be condemning the actions of Minmatar terrorists who kill in the name of freedom. Only if they are attacks on non-military and slavery unrelated settlements. Other than that, I consider it a legitimate war that your people started long ago. And nothing personal, but its a war I hope you lose.
The Associate	Posted - 2006.09.29 06:42:00 - [72] Originally by: Nolin Riis Originally by: Rodj Blake I'm glad that you accept that violent acts do not constitute an expression of freedom. I assume that means that you'll be condemning the actions of Minmatar terrorists who kill in the name of freedom. Only if they are attacks on non-military and slavery unrelated settlements. Other than that, I consider it a legitimate war that your people started long ago. And nothing personal, but its a war I hope you lose. So you support the concept of force being used to secure freedom? But you don't support random terrorist attacks on non-military targets. We have that in common then, I don't agree with what Cadlari fanatics did to that under water city. But of course they were fanatics, not Caldari State military, nor were they sanctioned by the State. You miltary's bombardment of poulation centres, fillied with women and children, the sick and infirm, was not the work of random fanatics. It was a deliberate and premedetated action by your federal navy against civilian targets. All because you sense of freedom was some how impinged upon by colonies that were nothing to do with you. God Damned hipocrit. +1 point towards the "cleansing" option.
Strikeclone Caldari Starscreamers	Posted - 2006.09.29 06:48:00 - [73] Originally by: Nolin Riis Originally by: Rodj Blake I'm glad that you accept that violent acts do not constitute an expression of freedom. I assume that means that you'll be condemning the actions of Minmatar terrorists who kill in the name of freedom. Only if they are attacks on non-military and slavery unrelated settlements. Other than that, I consider it a legitimate war that your people started long ago. And nothing personal, but its a war I hope you lose. So you support the concept of force being used to secure freedom? But you don't support random terrorist attacks on non-military targets. We have that in common then, I don't agree with what Cadlari fanatics did to that under water city. But of course they were fanatics, not Caldari State military, nor were they sanctioned by the State. You miltary's bombardment of poulation centres, fillied with women and children, the sick and infirm, was not the work of random fanatics. It was a deliberate and premedetated action by your federal navy against civilian targets. All because you sense of freedom was some how impinged upon by colonies that were nothing to do with you. God Damned hipocrit. +1 point towards the "cleansing" option. Strikeclone Celer Et Audax Caldari Prime will be ours again! Hoist Battle Ensigns
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.29 07:24:00 - [74] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Sorry Rodj, you're an Amarrian who supports slavery. Therefore, you are wrong. Let's get this straight: According to you, if I say that you're a well-rounded, cultured individual who's really smart, then that would be proof that you are in fact a barbaric idiot? Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Gaius Sejanus Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.09.29 08:31:00 - [75] Quote: It was only a small fleet that was defeated at Vak'Atioth. Because a larger one would have done SO much better. 200 battleships and cruisers, effortlessly defeated by a single mothership and a few tacklers. It is unfortunate timing that the Matari took the time right after your humiliating defeat at Vak'tioth to stage their uprising...otherwise you would have sent the rest of your fleet like lambs to the slaughter, and then your whole misbegotten empire would have crumbled under the weight of its own arrogance, with no navy to support it. Quote: If we were beaten so badly, why didn't the Jovians press home their supposed advantage? You aren't important enough. You aren't a threat. When a rat gets into the cargo holds of your ship, you don't sterilize the planet you launched from to kill the other rats, you stomp on the offender and go about your business.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.29 09:51:00 - [76] Originally by: Gaius Sejanus You aren't important enough. You aren't a threat. When a rat gets into the cargo holds of your ship, you don't sterilize the planet you launched from to kill the other rats, you stomp on the offender and go about your business. Actually, if you're a Gallente you do just that. The Caldari weren't a threat to your people, but that didn't stop the orbital bombardment of Caldari Prime. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Tyranne Amarr InterMind Unlimited Ekliptika	Posted - 2006.09.29 09:56:00 - [77] I find many aspects of Amarrian life despeakable, which is why I fled Amarr space as soon as I was able. As long as the Amarr Empire as a whole condones slavery, murder, crusades, and countless other injustices, I will not be part of it, and will speak out against it whenever possible. I also find the Amarrian concept of "God" flawed, and my stomach becomes queasy when I hear someone try to throw it around like a shield to hide behind. The only "God" that exists is the abomination that you've created within your own mind. Peh... a God that tolerates and promotes hatred, just because someone differs from you... that is blasphemy in and of itself.
Wyke Mossari	Posted - 2006.09.29 18:36:00 - [78] Originally by: Archbishop After visiting this city I went to the Monestary on Chaven for a week to purge my soul of visions I had seen in this "Federation" and the sin that flowed from every corner into the very hearts of man. Archbishop PIE Priest Wonders if the Archbishop cleansed his soul through sadism or masochism.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.29 18:57:00 - [79] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Gaius Sejanus You aren't important enough. You aren't a threat. When a rat gets into the cargo holds of your ship, you don't sterilize the planet you launched from to kill the other rats, you stomp on the offender and go about your business. Actually, if you're a Gallente you do just that. The Caldari weren't a threat to your people, but that didn't stop the orbital bombardment of Caldari Prime. I think you'll find that a bit too ignorant, even for an Amarrian zealot to say. If you truely knew our history and could speak on the subject, it might have been forgiven that you missed the fact that the Caldari corporations were establishing illegal settlements and colonies under the Federation charter, but you could never have ignored the unjustified attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor on Caldari Prime by Caldari partisans - the work of true terrorism! The right-wing regime at the time were perhaps a bit hasty in their declarations of war and actions against Caldari prime, but the response of a show of force was truely necessary. One does not murder half a million civilians and hope to walk away with it. But pray tell, how does the Amarrians react to growing threats? Ah yes, that is correct. A bit more than orbital bombardment of military possitions and subsequent liberation of several hundred millions of your own citizens. For do not forget that a very large portion of the citizens on Caldari Prime were Gallente, and that the war was never wholesale destruction of the planet. - Three years old
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.29 19:25:00 - [80] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Gaius Sejanus You aren't important enough. You aren't a threat. When a rat gets into the cargo holds of your ship, you don't sterilize the planet you launched from to kill the other rats, you stomp on the offender and go about your business. Actually, if you're a Gallente you do just that. The Caldari weren't a threat to your people, but that didn't stop the orbital bombardment of Caldari Prime. I think you'll find that a bit too ignorant, even for an Amarrian zealot to say. If you truely knew our history and could speak on the subject, it might have been forgiven that you missed the fact that the Caldari corporations were establishing illegal settlements and colonies under the Federation charter, but you could never have ignored the unjustified attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor on Caldari Prime by Caldari partisans - the work of true terrorism! The right-wing regime at the time were perhaps a bit hasty in their declarations of war and actions against Caldari prime, but the response of a show of force was truely necessary. One does not murder half a million civilians and hope to walk away with it. Doesn't your freedom-loving "morality" tell you that you kill only the rats responsible? If so, isn't punishing an entire planetary population (including many Galllenteans) a little bit excessive? Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori

Shurikane	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:43:00 - [81] Tee-hee-hee. In the time it took me to read this squabble, I earned a hundred million ISK. Ahh, nothing like riding high and living free.
Mark Carver	Posted - 2006.10.03 21:29:00 - [82] Edited by: Mark Carver on 03/10/2006 21:34:57 interesting if a rather misguided
Evanda Char Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:29:00 - [83] Originally by: Archbishop I saw near open displays of pure porxography on video monitors and down one alley saw several Gallente people engaged in what could only be described as a "group activity". And you spent how long staring at these things, exactly? Steam up the shop windows, did you? Those who most adamantly revile a thing usually do so because theirs is the greatest hunger for it. You speak this sermon because what you saw is on your mind, because you want to revisit it, run it through your thoughts again and by crying out against it, you can do so in the guise of purity. Besides, stick a little nudity in a sermon and a lot more people are going to listen. The fact is... well, compare the average Federation citizen and the average visitor from a less liberal nation-state. The visitor arrives on planet, checks into a hotel, walks out of the door and immediately buys as many drugs as he can stuff in the applicable orifice. He runs around for several days so far out of his tree that he's not even in the wood anymore, spends all his money and picks up a fairly antisocial disease. At the end of it, he can't remember a thing, though he'll tell everyone it was the best holiday ever for years afterwards. The Federation citizen grows up aware of and educated about the use and abuse of the whole gamut of sex, drugs and whathaveyou. It's not the alluring forbidden fruit it is to you. It's more like dessert - you can have one if you feel like it, but you don't have to grab as many puddings as possible because you might never get another chance. They know what is safe, when they've had too much, what to do... and if someone slips up, and things get out of hand, they can get help, because there's no issue with admitting the problem in the first place. Liberalism is a vital step on the road to a utopian society, for only in a society without jealousy can we truly attain equality. Originally by: Archbishop After visiting this city I went to the Monestary on Chaven for a week to purge my soul... I just bet you did Re-Awakened Technologies Inc "That looks interesting... Let's nick it!


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