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Pan Crastus	Posted - 2006.09.26 14:37:00 - [1] Linkage Will they be going after EVE's Pods, Pod pilots etc. next? ;-)
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.26 14:43:00 - [2] Well, if CCP decides to get into the MP3 player or online music market, then start applying the term "pod" to some sort of product or service then sure, I suppose we should be worried. Warp Drive Active \| EVE: Nature Vraie
Mitsumi Takahashi Caldari Naasirka	Posted - 2006.09.26 14:45:00 - [3] Originally by: Winterblink Well, if CCP decides to get into the MP3 player or online music market, then start applying the term "pod" to some sort of product or service then sure, I suppose we should be worried. Problem is, Apple has been targeting anything with "pod" in it, whether it applies to music/mp3s or not. -
Itaro Flagg Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2006.09.26 14:47:00 - [4] and 1) US copyright law requires the similar/same names to also be related in their nature. Pods in eve would not qualify. 2) CCP isn't a US company.
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.26 14:48:00 - [5] goodluck to them theres a company called "POD" that sells footwear since 1976 maybe they should sue apple :P ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.26 15:15:00 - [6] Originally by: Mitsumi Takahashi Originally by: Winterblink Well, if CCP decides to get into the MP3 player or online music market, then start applying the term "pod" to some sort of product or service then sure, I suppose we should be worried. Problem is, Apple has been targeting anything with "pod" in it, whether it applies to music/mp3s or not. The company I think you're referring to (correct me if I'm wrong) creates software which downloads podcasts. Warp Drive Active \| EVE: Nature Vraie
Vala Draaken Gallente Madhatters Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.26 15:21:00 - [7] Originally by: Pan Crastus Will they be going after EVE's Pods, Pod pilots etc. next? ;-) You're not the first to think along those lines. WDA Vala D.
Andargor theWise Disbelievers of Fate The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.09.26 15:31:00 - [8] Originally by: Itaro Flagg 2) CCP isn't a US company. There's something called the DMCA that has a nasty habit of getting around this fact. - Got grief?
VinLieger Caldari The Beiatch Corp Inc	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:19:00 - [9] Originally by: Andargor theWise Originally by: Itaro Flagg 2) CCP isn't a US company. There's something called the DMCA that has a nasty habit of getting around this fact. Exactly look at paris hilton and her army of lawyers being able to copyright that idiotic phrase "thats hot" because apparently she came up with it. Basically if you have the dosh you can do it. PS: no one tell her i used it she may sue me -----------------------
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Pan Crastus Linkage Will they be going after EVE's Pods, Pod pilots etc. next? ;-) That would be funny as hell, since eve was around and using "pod" before apple even thought about ipods. CCP couldn't possibly lose that case. And apple is a bunch of tards for attacking popular usage of the word "pod". They created a pervasive culture and now they are trying to quash it? WTF? ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:36:00 - [11] Originally by: Locke DieDrake Originally by: Pan Crastus Linkage Will they be going after EVE's Pods, Pod pilots etc. next? ;-) That would be funny as hell, since eve was around and using "pod" before apple even thought about ipods. CCP couldn't possibly lose that case. That conclusion is based on an unwarranted assumption; namely, that court judgments always make sense Given Apple's billions, it is entirely possible that they COULD win a case against CCP. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Raith Seinar	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:38:00 - [12] I stand ready to be corrected, but I believe that an agricultural company in the states has exclusive rights to the word "Basmati" when applied to rice products on sale, in the states only. Therefore if you're a small farmer in India whose family have been growing Basmati rice for generations, if you want to sell your product in the USA you have to pay royalties. So no, it wouldn't surprise me if Apple tried to take ownership of the word "Pod" in EVE.
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:39:00 - [13] Originally by: Andargor theWise Originally by: Itaro Flagg 2) CCP isn't a US company. There's something called the DMCA that has a nasty habit of getting around this fact. Thats odd. The DMCA is US law. Has nothing to do with copyright. And isn't internationally recognized. Try again. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
Kharakan Amarr GREY COUNCIL R i s e	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:41:00 - [14] Isn't the technical name for a pod 'capsule' anyways? After all, pilots are sometimes referred to as 'capsuleers' and the story is 'the capsule and the clone', not 'the pod and the pilot'. Originally by: ParMizaN evry1ghasb a limiy... ...and ijust reached it ahaha... this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer [limegreen]I a
Shiner BockBeer Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:42:00 - [15] All your pod are belong to Apple!
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Locke DieDrake Originally by: Pan Crastus Linkage Will they be going after EVE's Pods, Pod pilots etc. next? ;-) That would be funny as hell, since eve was around and using "pod" before apple even thought about ipods. CCP couldn't possibly lose that case. That conclusion is based on an unwarranted assumption; namely, that court judgments always make sense Given Apple's billions, it is entirely possible that they COULD win a case against CCP. That is, unfortunately true. Originally by: Raith Seinar I stand ready to be corrected, but I believe that an agricultural company in the states has exclusive rights to the word "Basmati" when applied to rice products on sale, in the states only. Therefore if you're a small farmer in India whose family have been growing Basmati rice for generations, if you want to sell your product in the USA you have to pay royalties. So no, it wouldn't surprise me if Apple tried to take ownership of the word "Pod" in EVE. Ah, but CCP is not selling Pods in any form, nor a product labeled with the Pod name. So Apple really has no case against them. Not to mention that CCP (I hope) has TM rights on EVE, Pod-pilot, and other such key words and phrases. Which would preclude apple from sueing them. Your example is correct, but doesn't correlate with whats going on with apple. Not in reguards to eve anyway. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
Andargor theWise Disbelievers of Fate The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.09.26 16:52:00 - [17] Edited by: Andargor theWise on 26/09/2006 16:52:53 Originally by: Locke DieDrake Originally by: Andargor theWise Originally by: Itaro Flagg 2) CCP isn't a US company. There's something called the DMCA that has a nasty habit of getting around this fact. Thats odd. The DMCA is US law. Has nothing to do with copyright. And isn't internationally recognized. Try again. Ehmm. I'll refresh your memory. The long arm of US law... - Got grief?
Novan Leon	Posted - 2006.09.26 17:14:00 - [18] Isn't POD a rock group? Uh oh... music... rock and roll... they're even a little related!
R3aliti	Posted - 2006.09.26 17:38:00 - [19] PODS = Portable On Demand Storage - Large (US) nationwide chain of storage containers and services.
Pan Crastus	Posted - 2006.09.26 17:56:00 - [20] Originally by: Locke DieDrake And apple is a bunch of tards for attacking popular usage of the word "pod". They created a pervasive culture and now they are trying to quash it? WTF? As I understand it, they have to defend their trademarks aggressively or risk losing them in the US. They also seem to have problems registering similar words as trademarks ("ipodcasting"?) while such usages of "pod" are so widespread.
Redrig Bayer Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.09.26 17:59:00 - [21] Should I change my sig then?
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:01:00 - [22] Originally by: Pan Crastus Linkage Will they be going after EVE's Pods, Pod pilots etc. next? ;-) I hope this makes the term die completely. Then Disney can kill the MMO usage of 'toon'. Podcast is a horribly stupid term, and it leads ALOT of tend*****-types to honestly believe the iPod is some sort of revolutionary thing, and that it gave birth to portable media. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg
Vactet Immortalis Silens Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:04:00 - [23] Apple is retarded, god. if they are going after ANYTHING with Pod in the name, then they will loose. As mentioned. Theres shoes named Pod, theres the large national storage company POD (or is it PODS? doesnt matter). And im sure there are alot more. This isnt a move by apple to squash the use of POD i bet, its a move to get royalties...greedy bastages. But this whole thing is rather idiotic. They start something big with their IPods, then get mad that it took off so well. Dude...thats like transfering over from corn husks to toilet paper and the inventer of toilet paper getting bent out of shape. Its trully..a stupid issue. And personally, i hate ipods. They are too dang big. Ill take my roxio, about 1/4 the size, and holds about 1/4 as much but hey! i dont plan to listen to 20gigs of music at a go. Anyways. Apple is seriously retarded for this whole thing they are trying to pull and I can only hope that they crash n burn like they were supposed to so many years ago and take their p.o.s. items off the market (Yes, personal opinion, dont even bother flaming it). Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child. ::Public Relations Director for Immortalis Silens. ::Im paid to talk, not to be civil.
Coran Ordus Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:06:00 - [24] Apple is specifically objecting to the other company's attempt to trademark 'Podcast Ready'. Not the name 'podcast' in general. It'd be like a car part manufacturer trying to trademark 'Toytoa Compatible' for their parts. Toytoa obviously would have good grounds for complaining saying that they trademarked Toyota, other people don't get to use it without some sort of prior agreement. In any case, a PodiPod would be great, my crewmembers choose the worst radio stations.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:08:00 - [25] This thread also makes me wonder how many of you have ever heard of a company called Monster (they make audio cables), and all the bull**** they pulled no too long ago. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg
Ozawi Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:08:00 - [26] Originally by: Andargor theWise Edited by: Andargor theWise on 26/09/2006 16:52:53 Originally by: Locke DieDrake Originally by: Andargor theWise Originally by: Itaro Flagg 2) CCP isn't a US company. There's something called the DMCA that has a nasty habit of getting around this fact. Thats odd. The DMCA is US law. Has nothing to do with copyright. And isn't internationally recognized. Try again. Ehmm. I'll refresh your memory. The long arm of US law... Wow, that link says he was arrested, then released and charges were dropped. Maybe that long arm didn't quite reach to what he was doing in Russia? ------------------------------------------------ This sig is mine. There are others like it, but this one is mine alone. Mods keep out, or I will drop trou and sprinkle some tinkle in your Cheerios! -I don't eat Cheerios. -ReverendM
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:10:00 - [27] another reason never ever to go to america From Dusk till Dawn
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:17:00 - [28] Fortunately for CCP, the DMCA does not apply in Iceland, a country where there are sane copyright laws --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Andargor theWise Disbelievers of Fate The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Ozawi Originally by: Andargor theWise Edited by: Andargor theWise on 26/09/2006 16:52:53 Originally by: Locke DieDrake Originally by: Andargor theWise Originally by: Itaro Flagg 2) CCP isn't a US company. There's something called the DMCA that has a nasty habit of getting around this fact. Thats odd. The DMCA is US law. Has nothing to do with copyright. And isn't internationally recognized. Try again. Ehmm. I'll refresh your memory. The long arm of US law... Wow, that link says he was arrested, then released and charges were dropped. Maybe that long arm didn't quite reach to what he was doing in Russia? I didn't say that what Adobe did was right, or that they got a conviction, that's not the point. Adobe still won, and Skylarov lost. He got arrested, and into endless expensive and lengthy legals procedures that tied up years of his life. Even if Adobe dropped charges against him, he's never going to code this kind of stuff again. Adobe 1, Skylarov 0. The point is, Apple is using intimidation tactics, pure and simple. Small companies and individuals have the choice of fighting an expensive battle in court (potentially), settle, or bend over. If they don't, and they are not a US company, then they will have trouble doing business in the US. US laws like the DMCA make that kind of legal abuse possible everywhere in the world. - Got grief?

kieron	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:26:00 - [30] The manners in which CCP and Apple use the word 'pod' are significantly different, enough so that the chances of action being brought about by Apple against CCP are negligible. We have the advantage of prior use and pod is a common useage word. It does make for an interesting story, however. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online


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