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Treyah
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2015.03.02 02:12:14 -
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igRaVeN wrote:Nothing more than the next guy with a super carrier but having full api access as a requirement to join a corp just seems a bit much. On top of that, a corp with a 1/4% tax rate and a requirement to pay membership dues if you miss a fleet fight just seems like
*snip* Watch the racism and discriminatory comments. ~ ISD Decoy
And its ******* blowing my mind that a corp would require this.
Don't join? Tbh after reading that I'm glad I'm in a corp that's awesome and I want to participate in-- |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate
Intrepid Crossing
1641
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Posted - 2015.03.04 07:46:05 -
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Joining a corp that doesn't require full, account wide api, has it's own risks - you have to keep wondering if you're the next awox victim. If you're unwilling to trade privacy for security, you must be willing to accept consequences of that lack of security.
The risk is increasing, as it's becoming a norm for corps to require full account wide api - the awoxers get more concentrated in the shrinking pool of corps that don't require it. |
Shey Nabali
Collapsed Out
Overload Everything
14
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Posted - 2015.03.07 00:47:27 -
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Maximus Decimal wrote:Any Corp or alliance worth joining will require a full API for vetting be for you are accepted.
This is standard practice. And a formality.
formality implies no practical function, which API security checks definitely serve. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2660
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Posted - 2015.03.08 04:02:56 -
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Lykouleon wrote:Only spies complain about API checks.
Lykouleon I'm back why are you gone, you were a good poster. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
381
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:49:01 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Lykouleon wrote:Only spies complain about API checks. Lykouleon I'm back why are you gone, you were a good poster.
You can not ignore the call of Lord Makk. |
Destrukter
Mafia Redux
Feign Disorder
1
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Posted - 2015.03.14 11:39:46 -
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Everyone wants to prevent another Haargoth |
Svarii
Acclimatization
69
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Posted - 2015.03.15 00:02:41 -
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Paranoid Much? Nobody cares what is in your emails... However, what ship you are flying and where you are at when CTA is issued is valuable information to a fleet commander. Just to name one of a great many things that can be monitored by the Brass in an effort to be able to more effectively issue orders. If none of the troops are willing to stream info to command due to paranoia, command has a serious problem. Why don't the troops trust command become the question at that point.
Pick a web based programming language, learn the EVE API, then you will know exactly why we CEOs ask for it.
Additionally, if you ask for a full account api and someone sends you a partial character api my first though is they are trying to side step a low level security sweep.
If I type anymore here this will be TL;DR and maybe spill some info, so. Either trust your command, or find another. Simple as that.
And like everyone else says. You CAN punch the guy in the face, lol!
Deny Pirates the Use of Implants
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igRaVeN
MASS
19
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Posted - 2015.03.15 07:49:56 -
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Oh my days... This thread is still going? I see COAD is no longer allowed to be a cesspool. I guess that's for the best.
ISD Decoy, I never knew a style of government was a discriminatory term but I guess I'll never understand the minds of people in power. Plus, its not like a person of leadership to ever over step their bounds and grossly act upon them; ingame, or out.
So anyways... I re-up'd my account to Hello Communist Kitty Online with the funds seeded from the newly sold super command ship and bought myself a few PLEXs. Thanks for the idea. And so, I'm here to rant some more...
Quote:...what ship you are flying and where you are at when CTA is issued is valuable information to a fleet commander. Just to name one of a great many things that can be monitored by the Brass in an effort to be able to more effectively issue orders. If none of the troops are willing to stream info to command due to paranoia, command has a serious problem. Why don't the troops trust command become the question at that point.
Holy *&@$ ! What security state do you live in? North Korea? Why does the "brass" need that much information? Plus, all the information you described as needed is available to corp leadership (e.g. director/accountant/auditor) via the corp's members list tab - No API required.
Quote:Pick a web based programming language, learn the EVE API, then you will know exactly why we CEOs ask for it.
If anything, This shows the excessive information not needed to by a CEO. Also, all the information is exported in a xml file format. I'm not really sure why you're telling me to use a programming language to pull the info when I can just post it in the url and get a result.
Quote:Don't join? Tbh after reading that I'm glad I'm in a corp that's awesome and I want to participate in--
Good to know there's some good corps still out there not harassing their members for their private information.
Quote:Can I have your stuffs?
No. Plus I gave up most of my stuff when I lost a grandparent a few years ago and stop playing cause everything in life felt so futile. Thanks for reminding me of that. Still waiting for that inheritance but somehow got screwed out of that because of an attorney uncle never filing a will to probate and stating that a will was never made. Again, Thanks for reminding me of that.
Quote:Any Corp or alliance worth joining will require a full API for vetting be for you are accepted.
No thanks. I'll rather just play with another friend than have to deal with bureaucracy. |
igRaVeN
MASS
19
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Posted - 2015.03.15 07:54:00 -
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Quote:What the moron in the OP doesn't get is that even though his 'friend' (im using the term lightly, this guy seems like a jerk) has known him for a decade, the rest of his friends group DOESN'T know him, and there have been too many cases over the years of 'oh you can trust my friend' that turned bad, so groups now just say ok you know him get his deets and we'll run quick for you.
I see ISD Decoy... Sir Grath Telkin of Sniggerdly is allowed to call me a moron but if I call a corp's leadership a certain type of government style that isn't allowed. Please bow down to you're money cow Decoy. Wouldn't want the 0.0's to get upset. Also, blow it out your ass. |
Svarii
Acclimatization
69
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Posted - 2015.03.15 18:58:04 -
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Quote:I can just post it in the url and get a result.
LOL! Just, LOL.
I can also use a magnifying glass to start a fire. But why would I do that when I could use a lighter?
Deny Pirates the Use of Implants
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Flaming Butterfly
Black Serpent Technologies
Black Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.03.27 14:25:48 -
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igRaVeN wrote:To each their own.
Some people like having fingers up their butts when getting a prostate test, others do not.
Your friend has asked you come back and have some fun with him and his corpies and you think their system of protection -which protects you and your assets as well- is equivalent to them probing around your nether-regions with their totalitarian fingers...
I think they will do fine without you. Get some counseling. |
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
Triumvirate.
90
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Posted - 2015.04.29 06:49:56 -
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this game is about intel, and spies are an valubale asset.
Alliances try and keep spies out, they do this by evaluating your , mail, assets, transfers.characters.
this is mostly an corp or alliance pollicy.
So dont take it personal.
if youd ont like it dont join. |
lord xavier
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
62
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Posted - 2015.05.08 16:28:56 -
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igRaVeN wrote:Nothing more than the next guy with a super carrier but having full api access as a requirement to join a corp just seems a bit much. On top of that, a corp with a 1/4% tax rate and a requirement to pay membership dues if you miss a fleet fight just seems like
*snip* Watch the racism and discriminatory comments. ~ ISD Decoy
And its ******* blowing my mind that a corp would require this.
Full API is required by most PVP alliances. They are covering as much ground as they can to protect their own assets. Spies and malicious intent is quite common in many applicants to larger alliances. Full APIs let them do quite a bit of information digging. Though afterwards most don't even bother to keep tabs on that API after awhile.
I am going to take a shot but it seems that you are referring to applying to Pandemic Legion, which is a major nullsec force in this game. People try and get spies in there for intel and AWOX possibilities. Hell, they lost a revenant and ten(?) other supercarriers because a member had helped setup the fleet and jump. That was with their standard of Full API applications.
I have never had an issue giving my full API when applying for an alliance. There is absolutely no reason to care. Cool, they will see my wallet. They will see my transaction history (have fun going through my trading alts). Only time you should be worried is if you are applying with intent to spy. Which then you should consider your tactic behind it and have a seperate account for that all together. One that doesnt tie back to your main or alts, if your alts are tied to your main. |
David Godfrey
Exanimo Inc
Gentlemen's.Club
7
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Posted - 2015.05.11 14:26:34 -
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Talon Draygo wrote:
Since you obviously sound like a stubborn moron, I look forward to seeing your super loss mail on the killboard soonish.
This.
Don't let the void consume you...
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
549
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Posted - 2015.05.12 14:12:48 -
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It's simple:
Are you willing to meet their recruiting requirements and live with the restrictions the corp might have (such as that ridiculous pay me if you miss a fleet crap)?
If yes, then apply.
If No, then look for another corp.
This isn't freaking rocket science people. It's not hard - it doesn't require a great deal of thought. If you don't like the hoops the corp has put up, then don't effing jump through them.
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Aequitae
Honestly We didnt know
Unsettled.
6
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Posted - 2015.05.14 11:46:35 -
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As a wormhole player, I would not take any group serious if they aren't doing thorough security checks.
The risks versus the rewards of not doing it are too large, and anyone who is uncomfortable sharing their API keys while we are risking billions of ISK, is not a member we'd like to recruit.
The only exception I could imagine is if you're a supercapital / titan producer, at which point you should already be explaining that situation anyways. |
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