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Bosie	Posted - 2006.09.27 20:55:00 - [1] Seems the first Titan is an Amarr ship, is this because they are overpowered? Discuss. Bosie. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." ...Winston
DarkPanther Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.09.27 20:57:00 - [2] great in depth analysis Bosie agree
Bosie	Posted - 2006.09.27 20:57:00 - [3] Originally by: DarkPanther great in depth analysis Bosie agree If you read it this time, you will see that I am asking a question not stating a fact. Bosie. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." ...Winston
Detavi Kade	Posted - 2006.09.27 20:58:00 - [4] Originally by: Bosie Seems the first Titan is an Amarr ship, is this because they are overpowered? Discuss. Bosie. No amarr titan has ever lost a fight! Nerf themz!!
Benco97 Gallente On Ravens Wings	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:00:00 - [5] Edited by: Benco97 on 27/09/2006 21:00:59 I believe you spell it with a "d". Head of the Fedo Appreciation Group (F.A.G) and Registered Fedo breeder (Sig kindly supplied by Zurtur)
ClawKnight Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Benco97 Edited by: Benco97 on 27/09/2006 21:00:59 I believe you spell it with a "d". I belive you spell it with an "I" and a "T". This thread gets my support, nerf amarr.
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:05:00 - [7] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Bosie	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:08:00 - [8] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." ...Winston
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:11:00 - [9] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:12:01 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:11:36 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! Who would sit in a stationary frigate in front of a hostile titan in a 1v1? --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Gloria Stitz	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:13:00 - [10] I think they built the amarr titan because it is the best looking one, but i may be wrong* *almost certainly wrong
Bosie	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:12:01 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:11:36 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! Who would sit in a stationary frigate in front of a hostile titan in a 1v1? A pilot in shock and or awe! Bosie. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." ...Winston
Benco97 Gallente On Ravens Wings	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:15:00 - [12] Originally by: ClawKnight I belive you spell it with an "I" and a "T". This thread gets my support, nerf amarr. Aww... you spoilt it! ;.; Head of the Fedo Appreciation Group (F.A.G) and Registered Fedo breeder (Sig kindly supplied by Zurtur)
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:12:01 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:11:36 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! Who would sit in a stationary frigate in front of a hostile titan in a 1v1? You should start by figuring out why a frigate is 1v1 ing a titan first. If you can come up with a good reason, let me know. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
ClawKnight Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:16:00 - [14] Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:12:01 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:11:36 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! Who would sit in a stationary frigate in front of a hostile titan in a 1v1? A pilot in shock and or awe! Bosie. If I drop out of warp and theres a titan there and im in a frigate, Id run away from the computer and huddle in the corner of my room with my tinfoil hat on, rocking back and forth.
ClawKnight Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:18:00 - [15] Originally by: Locke DieDrake Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:12:01 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:11:36 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! Who would sit in a stationary frigate in front of a hostile titan in a 1v1? You should start by figuring out why a frigate is 1v1 ing a titan first. If you can come up with a good reason, let me know. It'd make a proper sexy fraps
Laocoon Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Locke DieDrake Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:11:36 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! Who would sit in a stationary frigate in front of a hostile titan in a 1v1? You should start by figuring out why a frigate is 1v1 ing a titan first. If you can come up with a good reason, let me know. 'cos tey are teh ubar - Lao Veto. Corp
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:24:00 - [17] Quote: You should start by figuring out why a frigate is 1v1 ing a titan first. If you can come up with a good reason, let me know. 4 teh lewts and salvage!!! * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Indy X	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:28:00 - [18] Edited by: Indy X on 27/09/2006 21:29:25 Im sure that Titans will sit in a deep safespot 99% of the time during combat, just giving gang members the bonuses, so as for caldari titan having more launchers than ammar has turrets means nada. However you may discuss what gang bonuses are the best, 7.5% cap recharge per level or 5% shield hp per level, 5% armor or 7.5% lower signature radius. Well for one thing, Minmatars 7.5% lower sig res sure takes my vote on nerfed titan :P. Finally, it's not really about choosing what Titan u want. It's not like BPCs are seeded on the market, if u find a bpc by spending weeks in a 10/10 complex, u'll be happy anyway This thread is just plain stupid imo
Phoenix Lonestar Litanies of Hate	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:33:00 - [19] Nerf Amarr. They really need it. Esp. an apoc with 8 miner II's. NERF! Buff Caldari. The poor caldari are the bastard children of eve =(. WooT!
Rahn Sohwant	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Indy X ... It's not like BPCs are seeded on the market, if u find a bpc by spending weeks in a 10/10 complex, u'll be happy anyway... uuuh, I could buy a Ragnarok BPO right now if I had 60.75 billion isk. There are 192 on the market in Heimatar, 16 in the very system I am in!
Detavi Kade	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Indy X Well for one thing, Minmatars 7.5% lower sig res sure takes my vote on nerfed titan :P. Yah that's why I shredded by Minmatar Titan bpc...that and because it looks like a piece of turd.
Kye Kenshin Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:46:00 - [22] The Mushr0om of DOOM! clearly needs a hard nerf in the pants. And if i find out i can't solo one in an inty then this game has serious balance issues! www.beaglecorp.com \| Join "BEAGLEPUBLIC" channel ingame.
Squirl	Posted - 2006.09.27 22:09:00 - [23] erm i got lost somewhere. is this the place to discuss HAC prices? discuss.
Grml Z Mad-Warping-Maniacs	Posted - 2006.09.27 22:19:00 - [24] Amarr are overpowerd! Because i am amarr. _____________ High sec mining specialist. _____________ I am a NoOb,and i am proud to be one! :P _____________ i cant speak english
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2006.09.27 22:20:00 - [25] Originally by: ClawKnight If I drop out of warp and theres a titan there and im in a frigate, Id run away from the computer and huddle in the corner of my room with my tinfoil hat on, rocking back and forth. ...and by the time you've recovered your senses enough to come back to the PC, the damn thing probably still wouldn't have even finished locking you. ---------------- ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative. Anyone Recruiting? 8m SP PvP Character looking for a new home, for a life as a pirate. Contact Via EVE-Mail.
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.27 22:21:00 - [26] Umm i duno i happen to like the Ragnarok design, sure it may look like a tree branch but its cool in its own way. The mushroom of Doom was picked cuz everyone inside gets a free bonus to gettin high so they wont notice anything once the titan goes boom.....ingnorance is bliss...
Terraform Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.27 23:38:00 - [27] i like to remove the "a" and the "n" from the word titan. My new sig, like it?
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.09.28 00:02:00 - [28] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:12:01 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:11:36 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! Who would sit in a stationary frigate in front of a hostile titan in a 1v1? Didn't you hear? The Avatar has a thermal exhaust port only two meters wide that leads down to the main reactor. It is too narrow for a battleship to hit, and it would repel any large-scale assault.
King Prowler Amarr The Echelon	Posted - 2006.09.28 00:03:00 - [29] the diff is that amarr lasers suck Think about it mist ships get great EM resistence. So DPS wise no they are equal. The titan may be bigger and cooller looking though. But you can't nerf that :)
Snikkt Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.28 02:53:00 - [30] Originally by: King Prowler The titan may be bigger and cooller looking though. But you can't nerf that :) Don't you tempt them. They can. ------------------- If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Originally by: Aloysia Leyshon Shuttels are urban myth pure and simple. I've yet to see evidence of an actual shuttle.[/qu
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.28 02:56:00 - [31] /signed Please nerf amarr. --- CCP how about the pith X & A mods? "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
Nifel Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.28 03:11:00 - [32] Originally by: Indy X Edited by: Indy X on 27/09/2006 21:29:25However you may discuss what gang bonuses are the best, 7.5% cap recharge per level or 5% shield hp per level, 5% armor or 7.5% lower signature radius. Well for one thing, Minmatars 7.5% lower sig res sure takes my vote on nerfed titan :P. All the titans gets a 7.5% per level bonus to their respective special bonus. So it's 7.5% per level for both the Gallente and the Caldari titan. As for the Minmatar titan being the worst off the bunch I can only say this: Oh ye little of faith! Anyone believeing it to be a ** bonus just shows how little s/he understand of the game and it's mechanics. "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)**
Wen Jaibao adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.28 03:15:00 - [33] Originally by: King Prowler The titan may be bigger and cooller looking though. But you can't nerf that :) Erebus is bigger by quite a big margin. Amarr titan looks like a toy next to the Erebus Sig fixed by Benco97
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.28 03:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Nifel As for the Minmatar titan being the worst off the bunch I can only say this: Oh ye little of faith! Anyone believeing it to be a **** bonus just shows how little s/he understand of the game and it's mechanics. QFT that bonus is crazIEE!! --- CCP how about the pith X & A mods? "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
Megadon Caldari Templars of Light Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.28 04:45:00 - [35] Originally by: Bosie Seems the first Titan is an Amarr ship, is this because they are overpowered? Discuss. Bosie. Moved from General Discussion. -Ivan K Do you sleep in the tinfoil hat? or are you able to take it off at night? I use rubber bands to keep mine on. I need that protection 24x7.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.28 04:57:00 - [36] Originally by: Bosie Seems the first Titan is an Amarr ship, is this because they are overpowered? Discuss. Bosie. Moved from General Discussion. -Ivan K Clearly that cap bonus is far to huge. PLEASE NERF AMARR! Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.28 04:59:00 - [37] Originally by: Locke DieDrake Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:12:01 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:11:36 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! Who would sit in a stationary frigate in front of a hostile titan in a 1v1? You should start by figuring out why a frigate is 1v1 ing a titan first. If you can come up with a good reason, let me know. Because it's actually a Minmatar AF, with dual EM hardeners fitted, it's there to tank the DDD without having its tank break. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.28 05:33:00 - [38] Just look at the killboards! No Titan kills! Clearly that shows they are overpowered and should be nerfed severly. Maybe turn them into mobile entertainment centers for bored pilots? They would have flashing lights and play loud music too! --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.28 08:35:00 - [39] The Amarr titan is a good choice. 7.5%/level to cap is pretty sweet. I'd like to second what anyone says about signature radius reduction being rubbish. 7.5%/level less signature to _every ship in your fleet_ is absolutely horrendous. (Especially if it stacks with the 'reduced sig' gang assist, and the sig reduction implants). OK, so it'll probably not get up to the max possible, since Titan 5 is a really nuts long train. (Although training to fly it in the first place is fairly scary), but 30% is still quite reasonable. And that's a 30% reduction in damage from missiles of the same size or large. 30% reduction in tracking of _every_ turret, and 30% increase in locking times against your ship. I'm just looking at my training times. 190 days. And dreads were making me cry.
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.28 09:04:00 - [40] Tbh, an Erebus would have been a better choice: It has a cool name, it's design is way more beautiful or origninal than the Avatar, and a doomsday device that do only EM damage will be hard-pressed to destroy a modern-day fleet. With one or two EANM II, damage controls and a Damnation gang bonus, most battleships will easily have 80-85% EM resist on armor and at least 10k armor. The Doomsday weapon would just destroy the support of a big fleet, and that could be a critical flaw is the Avatar is ever caught outside a POS shield... ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.
General Apocalypse Amarr Amarr Task Force	Posted - 2006.09.28 09:38:00 - [41] Free tinfoil hats for all the people like the OP. Get them while their fresh. ----------------------- Amarr Invictus
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.28 09:40:00 - [42] Originally by: Bosie Seems the first Titan is an Amarr ship, is this because they are overpowered? Discuss. Bosie. Moved from General Discussion. -Ivan K When someting is a question use an question mark please instead of !
Great Spylord Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.28 09:49:00 - [43] Originally by: Shadowsword Tbh, an Erebus would have been a better choice: It has a cool name, it's design is way more beautiful or origninal than the Avatar, and a doomsday device that do only EM damage will be hard-pressed to destroy a modern-day fleet. With one or two EANM II, damage controls and a Damnation gang bonus, most battleships will easily have 80-85% EM resist on armor and at least 10k armor. The Doomsday weapon would just destroy the support of a big fleet, and that could be a critical flaw is the Avatar is ever caught outside a POS shield... Unless the said alliance has finished building more than 1 Titan, and simply to throw people off, gets everyone to tank for a avatar
Nifel Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.28 10:12:00 - [44] Originally by: Shadowsword Tbh, an Erebus would have been a better choice: It has a cool name, it's design is way more beautiful or origninal than the Avatar, and a doomsday device that do only EM damage will be hard-pressed to destroy a modern-day fleet. With one or two EANM II, damage controls and a Damnation gang bonus, most battleships will easily have 80-85% EM resist on armor and at least 10k armor. The Doomsday weapon would just destroy the support of a big fleet, and that could be a critical flaw is the Avatar is ever caught outside a POS shield... Err.... what modern fleet flies around with 1-2 EANMII's on their BS? "Hello. I'm caldari. From which new, undiscovered part of the galaxy do you come oh alien cleverly disguised as a gallente male?" "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)
xlop Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.28 10:24:00 - [45] Originally by: Nifel All the titans gets a 7.5% per level bonus to their respective special bonus. So it's 7.5% per level for both the Gallente and the Caldari titan. As for the Minmatar titan being the worst off the bunch I can only say this: Oh ye little of faith! Anyone believeing it to be a **** bonus just shows how little s/he understand of the game and it's mechanics. the amarr titan is definitly the best by a lot. it gives the equiv of more than 2 cap recharger t2 on to any ship in the gang, this is extreamly usefull for capital ships! it is also part usefull for galante/amarr ships that usually have a very hard time sustaining cap the mini one is second best, it means the enermy is going to have a very hard time hitting your smaller ships, and it will take them longer to lock all of you the caldari and galante ones are pretty crap tbh! they should be getting +7.5% to armor rep HP and shield HP and then the amarr one would still be better but not as much -- Imperial College London FTW --
XGS Crimson	Posted - 2006.09.28 11:36:00 - [46] Originally by: Krulla Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:12:01 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:11:36 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/09/2006 21:05:14 Guys - The Caldari Titan has 7 Launchers vs Amarr Titans 6 Turrets.... Ahh but if they both shoot at a stationary frigate, which would do the most damage? And which would cost the most to fire a single volley, missiles are used once fired unlike crystals! Bosie. Nerf Amarr, they need it! Who would sit in a stationary frigate in front of a hostile titan in a 1v1? Didn't you hear? The Avatar has a thermal exhaust port only two meters wide that leads down to the main reactor. It is too narrow for a battleship to hit, and it would repel any large-scale assault. you are a legend. LEGEND I SAY!
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.09.28 11:39:00 - [47] Originally by: Nifel Err.... what modern fleet flies around with 1-2 EANMII's on their BS? None really. But 2 1600mm plates have the same effect as 3 EAN2 in terms of (anti burst damage) ship hp, the principle is the same.
Lygos ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.28 12:06:00 - [48] Cloak should nerf passive effects. Unless I am given an Avatar, in which case it's fine.
Bosie	Posted - 2006.09.28 21:02:00 - [49] Originally by: Garia666 Originally by: Bosie Seems the first Titan is an Amarr ship, is this because they are overpowered? Discuss. Bosie. Moved from General Discussion. -Ivan K When someting is a question use an question mark please instead of ! Read the post again and spot the questionmark at the end of the question. Bosie. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." ...Winston

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