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Kaelynne Rose WTB Somalians 12	Posted - 2015.01.30 17:52:58 - [1] - Quote So with skillpoint lose gone and medical cost gone, and npcs starting to pod people even in highsec, Why is there still such a Super Atomic Massive Negative securtiy penatly hit for podding? Even in lowsec.....? Now if you commit criminal agression, you lose secstatus, makes sense It is also relative to the systems sec status (ie you gank a venture in a 1.0 you lose more secStatus then if you did the same in a .5) Also makes sense... Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED! Shouldnt podding in a .1-.4 be the same rate? Also way less than current? Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk?
Hengle Teron Just Another Corp XIV 36774	Posted - 2015.01.30 17:55:30 - [2] - Quote because podding is an act of pure evil
Serene Repose 2155	Posted - 2015.01.30 18:10:00 - [3] - Quote People actually sit around dreaming up these questions? This is becoming a phenomenon. Maybe something is in the water...or air...or food...or all three. Or, maybe it's this "self-esteem" thing a generation was dosed with. Treason never prospers. What is the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6149	Posted - 2015.01.30 18:11:11 - [4] - Quote Kaelynne Rose wrote: So with skillpoint lose gone and medical cost gone, and npcs starting to pod people even in highsec, Why is there still such a Super Atomic Massive Negative securtiy penatly hit for podding? Even in lowsec.....? Now if you commit criminal agression, you lose secstatus, makes sense It is also relative to the systems sec status (ie you gank a venture in a 1.0 you lose more secStatus then if you did the same in a .5) Also makes sense... Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED! Shouldnt podding in a .1-.4 be the same rate? Also way less than current? Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk? hmmm.. reduced penalty for outright murder. Yeah this will surely address the "kill everything that moves for no reason" problem that keeps Eve a niche game... Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 552	Posted - 2015.01.30 18:15:37 - [5] - Quote Kaelynne Rose wrote: Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED! Shouldnt podding in a .1-.4 be the same rate? Also way less than current? Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk? It's like that as a disincentive for you to pod other players. That, in theory, provides some additional safety to those PvPers there encouraging other players not to destroy thier pod and is part of the few mechanics that provide the "low" part of low security space. If you want to pod players without consequence go to wormholes or null. Otherwise just pod them and accept the consequences of ignoring the rules of low security space. Your choice. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 7715	Posted - 2015.01.30 18:24:43 - [6] - Quote On the one hand. If you get yourself podded you deserve it for being such a bad player and the podder should actually be rewarded for podding you. On the other hand. **** you, you murderous bastard! You deserve every point of sec status you lose and then some. These two hands will never meet. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Marsha Mallow 1889	Posted - 2015.01.30 18:34:17 - [7] - Quote Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
Icarus Able Revenant Tactical 536	Posted - 2015.01.30 18:54:13 - [8] - Quote Destruction of property and Murder are two VERY different things, it doesnt take anything away from gameplay so why change it?
War Kitten Panda McLegion 5848	Posted - 2015.01.30 18:58:01 - [9] - Quote Kaelynne Rose wrote: So with skillpoint lose gone and medical cost gone, and npcs starting to pod people even in highsec, Why is there still such a Super Atomic Massive Negative securtiy penatly hit for podding? Even in lowsec.....? Now if you commit criminal agression, you lose secstatus, makes sense It is also relative to the systems sec status (ie you gank a venture in a 1.0 you lose more secStatus then if you did the same in a .5) Also makes sense... Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED! Shouldnt podding in a .1-.4 be the same rate? Also way less than current? Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk? Losing a pod =/= Taking a pod Your deductive reasoning skills could use training past level 1. I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Crumplecorn Eve Cluster Explorations 1949	Posted - 2015.01.30 19:06:20 - [10] - Quote Uninteresting thread beyond the number of people jumping to real life logic to justify their response, completely ignoring the little issue of game balance that might be relevant to balancing the game. Witty Image - Stream Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
Commander Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1418	Posted - 2015.01.30 19:31:46 - [11] - Quote Crumplecorn wrote: Uninteresting thread beyond the number of people jumping to real life logic to justify their response, completely ignoring the little issue of game balance that might be relevant to balancing the game. I see the words, but the message, it got lost in critical hits to some really awful posts before yours. What 'balance' are you talking about? Op, my take is that Low Sec = Awkward Null sec light land. It really needs less punishment sent to the players. How would I like Low Sec to function? One change of thought with it. "If Concord didn't see you do it, you got away with it!" Sadly, it seems Kill mails are _mostly accurate _evidence of aggression. So, to fix,those 'Kill mail things', would have to only exist where CONCORD are. High sec only. Solution: Remove all Killmails from Low sec and Null sec and unless Concord were in the system to record the event, it never happened. Cheaper than paying for your sec status to be fixed again as well. Sadly, the level of epeen and willy waving surrounding killmails squashes this idea, so "Off to Jail with you!" There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1419	Posted - 2015.01.30 19:31:46 - [12] - Quote Crumplecorn wrote: Uninteresting thread beyond the number of people jumping to real life logic to justify their response, completely ignoring the little issue of game balance that might be relevant to balancing the game. I see the words, but the message, it got lost in critical hits to some really awful posts before yours. What 'balance' are you talking about? Op, my take is that Low Sec = Awkward Null sec light land. It really needs less punishment sent to the players. How would I like Low Sec to function? One change of thought with it. "If Concord didn't see you do it, you got away with it!" Sadly, it seems Kill mails are _mostly accurate _evidence of aggression. So, to fix,those 'Kill mail things', would have to only exist where CONCORD are. High sec only. Solution: Remove all Killmails from Low sec and Null sec and unless Concord were in the system to record the event, it never happened. Cheaper than paying for your sec status to be fixed again as well. Sadly, the level of epeen and willy waving surrounding killmails squashes this idea, so "Off to Jail with you!" There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
Jessica Duranin Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 326	Posted - 2015.01.30 19:37:30 - [13] - Quote Kaelynne Rose wrote: Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED! Lowsec doesn't mean that it's lawless space. Of course your sec status get's nuked when you commit murder in empire space.
d0cTeR9 Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance 32	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:48:19 - [14] - Quote Icarus Able wrote: Destruction of property and Murder are two VERY different things, it doesnt take anything away from gameplay so why change it? Sucks to be those hundreds of crew men and women heh? LOL!
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 482	Posted - 2015.01.31 00:23:38 - [15] - Quote Can it be murder if you are an immortal capsuleer? Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 19659	Posted - 2015.01.31 00:34:09 - [16] - Quote Well, once CCP has finished baby-proofing highsec, its only natural that they'll turn to lowsec for the next round of edge softening and padding. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?* Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 712	Posted - 2015.01.31 00:49:35 - [17] - Quote Jessica Duranin wrote: Kaelynne Rose wrote: Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED! Lowsec doesn't mean that it's lawless space. Of course your sec status get's nuked when you commit murder in empire space. It's not murder, it's just firing up the space brain xerox machine. Vote Sabriz!
Kaelynne Rose WTB Somalians 13	Posted - 2015.01.31 04:22:08 - [18] - Quote Jessica Duranin wrote: Kaelynne Rose wrote: Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED! Lowsec doesn't mean that it's lawless space. Of course your sec status get's nuked when you commit murder in empire space. It aint bad in a .1, but .4 is too severe sec hit. It should round .4 DOWN!! 1 podkill in a .4 shouldn't make u like a -3.7 right off bat. Its lowsec for gods sakee
Dr Ron Please Daddy Not The Belt 1	Posted - 2015.01.31 06:07:07 - [19] - Quote Kaelynne Rose wrote: Its lowsec for gods sakee Empire space is empire space. Your sec status hit is directly proportional throughout empire. Just because concord is awol doesn't mean you can shoot everything without penalty. Sent while driving
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 920	Posted - 2015.01.31 19:56:35 - [20] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. disco a bunch of pods in jita I went from +5 to -10 in about 10 seconds I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me! In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod - Mara Rinn
Kaelynne Rose WTB Somalians 25	Posted - 2015.02.08 06:35:09 - [21] - Quote Chainsaw Plankton wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. disco a bunch of pods in jita I went from +5 to -10 in about 10 seconds Yet 1 podkill in a .4 (lowsec) will take you from positive sec status to like -3.6 boom 1 second Seems OP Clone/med costs GONE Skillpoint loss. GONE Npcs podding players. HERE Crimewatch even allowed the legal aggression of pods after fights a couple years ago Time to rebalance the harsh podkill laws?
Tisiphone Dira New Order Logistics CODE. 123	Posted - 2015.02.08 06:43:59 - [22] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status Ah, hello number 661. You've got a long way to go. Let's get down to podding, to defeat the carebears!
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 3680	Posted - 2015.02.08 10:44:03 - [23] - Quote Generally speaking, it's bizarre that standard lowsec gameplay (shooting stuff) has a near-zero effect on your lowsec experience (except fairly rare gate/station crimewatch mechanic games), but instead has a huge effect on your highsec experience. Not that lowseccers care much about highsec, but please remind me why facpo discouraging them from occasionally roaming through highsec is good game design? Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Dalloway Jones Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 262	Posted - 2015.02.08 12:11:40 - [24] - Quote Tisiphone Dira wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status Ah, hello number 661. You've got a long way to go. Let's get down to podding, to defeat the carebears! Sweet Jesus your avatar! What unholy abomination is this? Kill it! Burn it with fire!
Dun'Gal Myriad Contractors Inc. 195	Posted - 2015.02.08 12:11:54 - [25] - Quote implying that the hit to security status makes any difference whatsoever.......
Aqriue Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 730	Posted - 2015.02.08 16:23:08 - [26] - Quote Dun'Gal wrote: implying that the hit to security status makes any difference whatsoever....... ^-- this, cause lol sec status. It does....what? Make you blinky...egad, now you are KOS to other players in high sec but those same blinky -10 dudes where going to shoot them anyway so it goes either way. NPC and gate guns....align faster to escape, swear that glaciers move faster....CONCORD don't give a sh*t, CCP didn't institute lock out/tax penalty. It does....nothing. Calling OP troll for attention, cause podding is an option for killboard padding and erection length measurement, you don't actually have to pod people.
Raymond Moons Parallactic Veil 18	Posted - 2015.02.08 17:07:07 - [27] - Quote Clone tags allow you to buy back your security status, so it's never been easier to return to high sec than it is now. If you don't want the sec status hit, no one is forcing you to shoot at pods in empire.
Lena Lazair Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion 201	Posted - 2015.02.08 18:11:11 - [28] - Quote Kaelynne Rose wrote: Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk? There's a place for what you want. It's called nullsec. Stop trying to homogenize EVE.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 6393	Posted - 2015.02.09 01:35:59 - [29] - Quote Kaelynne Rose wrote: Chainsaw Plankton wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. disco a bunch of pods in jita I went from +5 to -10 in about 10 seconds Yet 1 podkill in a .4 (lowsec) will take you from positive sec status to like -3.6 boom 1 second Seems OP Clone/med costs GONE Skillpoint loss. GONE Npcs podding players. HERE Crimewatch even allowed the legal aggression of pods after fights a couple years ago Time to rebalance the harsh podkill laws? No. Most 0.4s border high sec, the entry points for newbros and first-time lowseccers. One of the reasons many lowsec areas such as Khanid are so dead and empty is because people like to gatecamp those entry points, despite the penalties already, for easy killboard padding. How about you balls up like a real lowseccer and go -10? No real lowseccer needs that sec status anyway, and then you can stop begging on the forums for cheaper kills with less penalties, because you won't care about the penalties anymore. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Shailagh WTB Somalians 88	Posted - 2015.02.11 21:37:15 - [30] - Quote Lena Lazair wrote: Kaelynne Rose wrote: Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk? There's a place for what you want. It's called nullsec. Stop trying to homogenize EVE. Then highsec shouldnt have the same security hits as lowec right? Its what you just said! Sooooo crimes in hisec=super sec hit. Crimes=null zero sec hit... wait for it.... crimes in low== low sec hit! Yay makes sense. U so smart
Helios Panala 29	Posted - 2015.02.12 10:10:10 - [31] - Quote You don't have to shoot the pod you know.
Hrothgar Nilsson 439	Posted - 2015.02.12 10:35:15 - [32] - Quote Tisiphone Dira wrote: http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status Ah, hello number 661. You've got a long way to go. Let's get down to podding, to defeat the carebears! You do realize that eveboard has a hair less than 1% of all characters on it, right? ;) I'd be the 39th richest person in EVE by wallet balance if eveboard were anything to go by, but I doubt I'm even in the top 1000. :) Probably more like "hello number 15,432". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8
Tyrton Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters Intergalactic Interstellar Interns 101	Posted - 2015.02.12 11:16:47 - [33] - Quote Kaelynne Rose wrote: So with skillpoint lose gone and medical cost gone, and npcs starting to pod people even in highsec, Why is there still such a Super Atomic Massive Negative securtiy penatly hit for podding? Even in lowsec.....? Now if you commit criminal agression, you lose secstatus, makes sense It is also relative to the systems sec status (ie you gank a venture in a 1.0 you lose more secStatus then if you did the same in a .5) Also makes sense... Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED! Shouldnt podding in a .1-.4 be the same rate? Also way less than current? Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk? There was a time when -10 was something folks ran around as a badge of job well done. Now days I see more and more whine on "hey why consequences"
Lena Lazair Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion 241	Posted - 2015.02.12 13:13:04 - [34] - Quote Shailagh wrote: Then highsec shouldnt have the same security hits as lowec right? Its what you just said! Sooooo crimes in hisec=super sec hit. Crimes=null zero sec hit... wait for it.... crimes in low== low sec hit! Yay makes sense. U so smart Lowsec is Empire space, so yeah it should have the same security hit formula as the rest of Empire space (including the highsec bits). Lowsec's entire uniqueness is that it isn't lawless space, it's just Empire space with no CONCORD response. You want a place where security doesn't matter? That's out in nullsec, which is not Empire space.
Lan Wang Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi 149	Posted - 2015.02.12 13:21:33 - [35] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. this. and make it harder for rats to give you sec status because i dont want to look like a carebear EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design \| Killboard Banners \| -áWeb Design \| Website Graphics -á
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1579	Posted - 2015.02.12 14:47:21 - [36] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Kaelynne Rose wrote: Chainsaw Plankton wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. disco a bunch of pods in jita I went from +5 to -10 in about 10 seconds Yet 1 podkill in a .4 (lowsec) will take you from positive sec status to like -3.6 boom 1 second Seems OP Clone/med costs GONE Skillpoint loss. GONE Npcs podding players. HERE Crimewatch even allowed the legal aggression of pods after fights a couple years ago Time to rebalance the harsh podkill laws? No. Most 0.4s border high sec, the entry points for newbros and first-time lowseccers. One of the reasons many lowsec areas such as Khanid are so dead and empty is because people like to gatecamp those entry points, despite the penalties already, for easy killboard padding. How about you balls up like a real lowseccer and go -10? No real lowseccer needs that sec status anyway, and then you can stop begging on the forums for cheaper kills with less penalties, because you won't care about the penalties anymore. If you fly logi boats, getting too low can be a major pain in the butt especially in frigs where your fleet won't be able to hold against the potential gate guns if they try to help you because you were a random target. It all depends what you are doing/looking for.
Chal0ner Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi 130	Posted - 2015.02.12 14:55:43 - [37] - Quote Kaelynne Rose wrote: Jessica Duranin wrote: Kaelynne Rose wrote: Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED! Lowsec doesn't mean that it's lawless space. Of course your sec status get's nuked when you commit murder in empire space. It aint bad in a .1, but .4 is too severe sec hit. It should round .4 DOWN!! 1 podkill in a .4 shouldn't make u like a -3.7 right off bat. Its lowsec for gods sakee How is this even logical? If it's a poding in low sec it's a poding in low sec regardsless of arbitrary numbers on systems sec indicator.
Chal0ner Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi 130	Posted - 2015.02.12 14:57:53 - [38] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. this. and make it harder for rats to give you sec status because i dont want to look like a carebear Rats has destroyed my pvp-ers sec status So +1 for this excellent suggestion
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 192	Posted - 2015.02.12 15:01:07 - [39] - Quote yeah no penalties for kills that wont increase ganking at all. While we are at it lets make it so when you die or kill someone they don't lose a ship and only a percentage for gear. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Leannor Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates. 116	Posted - 2015.02.13 13:21:36 - [40] - Quote Hengle Teron wrote: because podding is an act of pure evil personally I see killing the ship as more of an evil ... the pod is free, implants easy to refit and acquire, plus it give you a free ride back to your base to get the next ship ... Podding is so not evil at all. (it used to be a little more evil when there were clones, and you actually lost skill points ifyour were cheap enough to not update your clone, ... but now, pods are pointless and worthless. Might as well get rid of them. "Lykouleon wrote: STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Leannor Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates. 116	Posted - 2015.02.13 13:23:20 - [41] - Quote Chal0ner wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. this. and make it harder for rats to give you sec status because i dont want to look like a carebear Rats has destroyed my pvp-ers sec status So +1 for this excellent suggestion 0.0 rats don't up your sec ... (or do they?) "Lykouleon wrote: STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Chopper Rollins Lantean Empire 1041	Posted - 2015.02.13 13:36:36 - [42] - Quote AKCHUALLY being red changes your lowsec experience in that you don't have to get aggro to be shootable, this can change the way tackling on gates happens. Still, sec lower than -5 means lowsec denizen and only costs a couple hundred mil to get back to fly anywhere status so what's the whine? Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1583	Posted - 2015.02.13 14:02:16 - [43] - Quote Leannor wrote: Chal0ner wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. this. and make it harder for rats to give you sec status because i dont want to look like a carebear Rats has destroyed my pvp-ers sec status So +1 for this excellent suggestion 0.0 rats don't up your sec ... (or do they?) They do. Ratting is the long way out of sec status "problems".
Leannor Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates. 117	Posted - 2015.02.13 14:28:31 - [44] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Leannor wrote: Chal0ner wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. this. and make it harder for rats to give you sec status because i dont want to look like a carebear Rats has destroyed my pvp-ers sec status So +1 for this excellent suggestion 0.0 rats don't up your sec ... (or do they?) They do. Ratting is the long way out of sec status "problems". Ooh, I always thought that only applied in Empire (Lo/Hi). Didn't think sec status got cured out in 0.0. Learning day today :) "Lykouleon wrote: STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Agent Known Night Theifs DamnedNation 23	Posted - 2015.02.13 15:55:40 - [45] - Quote Leannor wrote: Chal0ner wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. this. and make it harder for rats to give you sec status because i dont want to look like a carebear Rats has destroyed my pvp-ers sec status So +1 for this excellent suggestion 0.0 rats don't up your sec ... (or do they?) Yep, they do. Anything with a bounty comes with security status bumps coinciding with the bounty ticks. Edit: i can't forum, question already answered
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 3705	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:13:52 - [46] - Quote Chopper Rollins wrote: AKCHUALLY being red changes your lowsec experience in that you don't have to get aggro to be shootable, this can change the way tackling on gates happens. Still, sec lower than -5 means lowsec denizen and only costs a couple hundred mil to get back to fly anywhere status so what's the whine? No whine on my part, I just don't understand the gameplay reason to tax lowsec regulars for highsec access. Practical result is: - Yes you can easily fix your sec status if you plan to spend time in highsec... - ...but it's definitely not worth the ISK just to pop your head in highsec from time to time So basically lowsec regulars just almost never go to highsec. Which is no biggie, but why? Wouldn't lowsec guys (usually decent solo/small gang pvp-ers) spice up highsec a bit? Offering some sweet explosions (among them) for newbies to watch, playing with highsec mercs, maybe joining some wars as defenders just to mess with war-deccing corps? My suggestion would be: keep sec status penalties as they are, but ditch Faction Police (not CONCORD, obviously). Let players deal with 'criminals' or let criminals duke it out among themselves. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Mag's the united 19019	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:20:15 - [47] - Quote Tisiphone Dira wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign. http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status Ah, hello number 661. You've got a long way to go. Let's get down to podding, to defeat the carebears! As number 1 in that list, I agree. I also love killing pods and think the hit from them is fine. If you don't like it, then don't do it. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Mag's the united 19019	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:22:19 - [48] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Chopper Rollins wrote: AKCHUALLY being red changes your lowsec experience in that you don't have to get aggro to be shootable, this can change the way tackling on gates happens. Still, sec lower than -5 means lowsec denizen and only costs a couple hundred mil to get back to fly anywhere status so what's the whine? No whine on my part, I just don't understand the gameplay reason to tax lowsec regulars for highsec access. Practical result is: - Yes you can easily fix your sec status if you plan to spend time in highsec... - ...but it's definitely not worth the ISK just to pop your head in highsec from time to time So basically lowsec regulars just almost never go to highsec. Which is no biggie, but why? Wouldn't lowsec guys (usually decent solo/small gang pvp-ers) spice up highsec a bit? Offering some sweet explosions (among them) for newbies to watch, playing with highsec mercs, maybe joining some wars as defenders just to mess with war-deccing corps? My suggestion would be: keep sec status penalties as they are, but ditch Faction Police (not CONCORD, obviously). Let players deal with 'criminals' or let criminals duke it out among themselves. Actually one change could be to remove sec hits for ship kills in low sec and have them only on pods there. This could have the effect of more ship PvP in low and still allow those involved to frequent High now and then. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
SpaceMonkey Dark Angel Battalion 1	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:23:59 - [49] - Quote I think the only thing worse than care bears whining that the ore in their hold doesn't sell itself and they can die after afk for hours mining is PVPers that whine about a profession they chose and an act that they decide to commit knowing the mechanics. Adapt to the system your in or learn how to change/avoid it. Mostly just stop whining.
Serene Repose 2231	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:29:59 - [50] - Quote SpaceMonkey wrote: I think the only thing worse than care bears whining that the ore in their hold doesn't sell itself and they can die after afk for hours mining is PVPers that whine about a profession they chose and an act that they decide to commit knowing the mechanics. Adapt to the system your in or learn how to change/avoid it. Mostly just stop whining. Always nice to see your two-cents. Change please. Treason never prospers. What is the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."

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