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Carp Hunter	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:45:00 - [121] Hi all, Just wanted to say what a great program.I love being able to get my efficiency way up there.Now when I calculate how much I can make per hr on paper,I get pretty damn close with this program. Didn't know how much I was losing till I started using my strip miners with a 3 minute cycle. Without this program I would of lost many 2+ minutes worth of cycle,minig nothing. Good Job!!!!Worth ever ISK. Carp
Frabba	Posted - 2007.03.13 16:12:00 - [122] Originally by: Mr Xofar Originally by: Frabba Not sure if anyone's asked for this before, but I have a feature request. Allow me to set a price for minerals within the timer. Using this I can display, or even get a running counter of how much Isk value I have mined without having to do any math on my end. The fucntionality is already there for the most part, since you're already showing us how much in mineral quantity we've mined. Just need to add a display for mineral amount*user defined price = $$$ display or somesuch. And also Xofar, related to my earlier bug report. I've noticed EVEmon has a similar issue with time on my computer, so it's quite possible there some sort of timing issue within my pc. Yep, that will be on the next release. No idea yet as to when I'll get it done however. It will have a calculator and isk/min, isk/hour readout as well. I have a rather unique idea for the calculator; it'll be more than just your standard "How many minerals can I get from this much ore" type. For the timer. The app uses an array of vbTimer controls; which unfortunately isn't always consistent on ALL computers (it seems dual core cpu's experience this issue the most; but it's not limited to them). A better method for me to have used would have been to use the tick count of the computer itself. I may change that in the future (not a simple task), but for now the current conrtol will have to suffice. The only thing I can suggest atm is try it on a different computer if you have access to one. You're the man, and I have several spare PCs to use as the timer ;-).
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:57:00 - [123] Edited by: Mr Xofar on 13/03/2007 17:57:34 Originally by: Carp Hunter Hi all, Just wanted to say what a great program.I love being able to get my efficiency way up there.Now when I calculate how much I can make per hr on paper,I get pretty damn close with this program. Didn't know how much I was losing till I started using my strip miners with a 3 minute cycle. Without this program I would of lost many 2+ minutes worth of cycle,minig nothing. Good Job!!!!Worth ever ISK. Carp Thanks Carp, Glad you like it. Originally by: Carp Hunter You're the man, and I have several spare PCs to use as the timer ;-). Talk about metagaming. EDIT: Oh, and let me rephrase the "(not a simple task)", regarding changing the timing method. The method alone isn't all that complicted. But modifying the program to run under that method of timing would be a pain in the arse. Miner Timer
Frabba	Posted - 2007.03.13 23:11:00 - [124] Originally by: Mr Xofar Originally by: Frabba You're the man, and I have several spare PCs to use as the timer ;-). Talk about metagaming. You know how in Halaada's guide, he talks about the ideal minings setup being 3 accounts, barge, hauler, and command ship? Well.... no command ship yet but I'm working on it ;-)
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.14 19:56:00 - [125] All, Please contact me via eve-mail for all questions regarding this application. If you are using this application and would like to post something constructive about it, please do so here. If you want to debate its usefullness with other players, you may also continue to do that here. Cheers. Out. Miner Timer
Darqion Zenix	Posted - 2007.03.15 15:34:00 - [126] im way to lazy to read all this.. please answer me this - if i buy one top end key (group 3), will i be able to use the program for ever and ever even with new versions etc. ? and i noticed on the site its only 15 mill for the group 3 one.. if that is for lifetime use, i dont see how people can complain about the price.. i have a TRIAL account character and i could come up with that in a not to long time
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.15 19:30:00 - [127] Originally by: Darqion Zenix im way to lazy to read all this.. please answer me this - if i buy one top end key (group 3), will i be able to use the program for ever and ever even with new versions etc. ? and i noticed on the site its only 15 mill for the group 3 one.. if that is for lifetime use, i dont see how people can complain about the price.. i have a TRIAL account character and i could come up with that in a not to long time That is correct. AND you can sell copies of the key you purchased to other miners. Miner Timer
Ciuby	Posted - 2007.03.18 20:45:00 - [128] i have the same problem... my timer is about 10 seconds off track :( and i am mining only one type of ore... what can i do? :-s
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.19 06:26:00 - [129] Originally by: Ciuby i have the same problem... my timer is about 10 seconds off track :( and i am mining only one type of ore... what can i do? :-s I'm going to make a change to it tonight that will hopefully remedy this. In the meantime, try it on a different computer if you have access to one. This has come up only since adding the virtual refining. Currently the minerals update every 10 seconds after the first timer is started. I'm going to change it so it only updates at the end of a cycle. That means fewer interuptions to the timer. Miner Timer
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.19 15:01:00 - [130] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 03/19/2007 Verison: 1.2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bugs: 1 - Timing issues have been creeping up on some computers where timing was off by than 6 seconds or more. This is likely due to the new virtual refining processes that occur during the timing. I now made it so the refining only occurs at the end of a cycle or when the asteroid is depleted. This reduces the number of timer interruptions, and should result in more accurate timing for the computers that were experiencing this problem. If you are still experiencing this problem please let me know either here or vie eve-mail. Miner Timer
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:17:00 - [131] Update... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 03/20/2007 Verison: 1.2.1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bugs: 1 (added option to disable virtual refining) - Although the timing issue was improved in v1.2.0, it wasn't completely taken care of. I've included an option to disable the Virtual Refining until I either fix it, or until I actually change the timing method. Keep in mind this is only affecting small minority of computers, and only arised since implementing the virtual refining. Disabling the refining process should help However, if it doesn't please let me know. Miner Timer
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.22 04:56:00 - [132] I will be releasing v1.2.2 tonight. Thanks to Ciuby for helping me test this fix and finally getting the problem taken care of. If you are experiencing timing problems, you can now adjust the refresh rate of the timers to give your computer a chance to catch up to processes for the program. This fix has not been tested on the dual core CPU's that were experincing the same problem, but I am hopeful that it will remedy them as well. Unofficial release notes for v 1.2.2 Feature: 1 (added settings tab [set]) - You can now adjust the refresh rate of the timers to '1/16 Second', '1/4 Second', '1/2 Second' and '1 Second'. Slower refresh rates will result in more accurate timing on some computers that are experiencing timing problems with this program. Miner Timer
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.23 13:38:00 - [133] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 03/23/2007 Verison: 1.2.2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature: 1 - Since adding the option to disable the refining in an effort to correct timing problems - without having to rewrite the entire timing method - I added a feature that allows you to set the timer refresh rate. Slow down the Timer Refresh Rate to 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 or 1 second to allow your computer enough time between the timers firing to catch up with all the processes of dedcuting ore, refining minerals, etc. This is a confirmed fix for at least one person who was willing to help test the solution. Thanks to Ciuby's diligence, this problem now seems to have been remedied. Miner Timer v(1.2.2) Works best with EVE Launcher by Grismar.
Garek Selwonk Gallente Antares Frontier The Fifth Race	Posted - 2007.03.25 13:25:00 - [134] Hi, Im having trouble using the Timer, it used to work but now where i start it up i get this error: Run-time error '13': Type Mismatch Iv tried reinstalling the timer but it has no effect. Thanks for any help in advance. Garek
Garek Selwonk Gallente Antares Frontier The Fifth Race	Posted - 2007.03.25 13:52:00 - [135] After setting up and running the Timer on a different Windows User, it starts up fine but every time i actually start the timer count-down, the timer doesnt start (the digits dont change) and when i stop it, i get that Error but this time it says: Error Number: 13 Descriptions: Type Mismatch Line: 260 i guess theres some error in the coding on line 260 ^^ again, thanks for any help!
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.25 17:14:00 - [136] I'm on it. Thanks -------- Miner Timer v(1.2.2) Works best with EVE Launcher by Grismar.
Garek Selwonk Gallente Antares Frontier The Fifth Race	Posted - 2007.03.25 17:40:00 - [137] Great! Ready and Waiting to mine! --Also could i change my key order to a group II one :D Ill send the isk now thanks Garek
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.25 17:48:00 - [138] Originally by: Garek Selwonk Great! Ready and Waiting to mine! --Also could i change my key order to a group II one :D Ill send the isk now thanks Garek No problem, whatever works for you. Update is complete. Sorry for any inconvinience. Let me know if you have any further problems. -------- Miner Timer v(1.2.3) Works best with EVE Launcher by Grismar.
Garek Selwonk Gallente Antares Frontier The Fifth Race	Posted - 2007.03.25 20:57:00 - [139] Thanks for the Update! and the key! loving this program :D Again, i would ask for a ISK Profit calculator when the ores are refined. When i used the timer today, i also noticed it coming slightly out of sync, by about 5-10seconds each cycle! Ill try turning off the virual refining & changing refresh rate. Just for info, My PC is running on XP, 2gis of ram, has 2x 3.0gz processors and a go 6600 card. My CPU's arn't Dual-Core but there is to...:S Its a alienware area-51 m7700 if any1 knows any more about these. Anyway, looking forward to updates and thanks again for this great program. I think 2.5mil & 5mil are fine prices :D not sure on 15mil yet, im not upto them mining standards yet! So yer....thanks!
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.25 21:44:00 - [140] Originally by: Garek Selwonk Thanks for the Update! and the key! loving this program :D Again, i would ask for a ISK Profit calculator when the ores are refined. When i used the timer today, i also noticed it coming slightly out of sync, by about 5-10seconds each cycle! Ill try turning off the virual refining & changing refresh rate. Just for info, My PC is running on XP, 2gis of ram, has 2x 3.0gz processors and a go 6600 card. My CPU's arn't Dual-Core but there is to...:S Its a alienware area-51 m7700 if any1 knows any more about these. Anyway, looking forward to updates and thanks again for this great program. I think 2.5mil & 5mil are fine prices :D not sure on 15mil yet, im not upto them mining standards yet! So yer....thanks! I'm glad you like it Garek. And tell me if changing the refresh rate helps you. I can see however, that I am going to have to eventually rewrite the timing method. The vbTimer control just isn't reliable. -------- Miner Timer v(1.2.3) Works best with EVE Launcher by Grismar.
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.26 13:30:00 - [141] The latest and greatest... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 03/26/2007 Verison: 1.2.4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enhancements: 1 - Enabled button click sounds for Timer Settings tab controls. Interface: 2 - Can longer change the refresh rate while any laser timer is active. Note: Refresh rate DOES NOT affect the JetCan timers. They are on a 1 sec refresh by default, and that cannot be changed by the user. When active, JetCan timers have a negligable effect on the laser timing processes. - Added 'Refined' column on Yield tab, [yld]. Features: 1 - Introducing "The Fastest Ore Calculator in EVE" - aka 'The F.Ore.C.E.': =P - Use 'The F.Ore.C.E.' to find the true value of the ore in your region. - Mineral yield reference table. Mouse over the ore types to view the base mineral yield for each ore type and grade. - Use the Market column to enter the fair market value of the minerals in your region. (Default values are based on "Halada's Mining Guide") - See just how much isk trickles out of your wallet every minute your lasers are mining on an empty roid. Or, quickly determine which is the best ore to mine in your region. - Click on the ore type to lock the selection, double click to unlock. This is useful if you want confirm the values as displayed by 'The F.Ore.C.E.' - This is a work in progress and will continue to improve your mining efficiency and experience as this feature evolves. -------- Miner Timer v(1.2.4) Works best with EVE Launcher by Grismar.
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.28 06:27:00 - [142] What you can expect in version 1.2.5 coming soon... - "yld/min" check box on 'The F.Ore.C.E.' calculator. Quickly determine which ore is the best source of any mineral by seeing how many minerals of a specific type per minute you can mine and refine from that ore type. This is especially useful for those misleading ores like Omber vs. Kernite for Isogen(Omber wins), and Plagioclase vs. Scordite for Pyerite(Scordite wins). - Include or ignore Station Refinery Efficiency and Skills in determining isk per minute/hour. - Show current isk/minute/hour of what has been mined so far since mining op started. -------- Miner Timer v(1.2.4) Works best with EVE Launcher by Grismar.
Stingg Ray Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.28 11:29:00 - [143] I'm kinda new to mining - especially in the barge... I'm loving this tool - well worth the few ISK in return. Very prompt and efficient response from Mr Xofar, and the tool is constantly improving. If you're considering getting this, download a trial and give it a bash. /me is one very happy customer.
Ciuby Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.03.30 03:55:00 - [144] wow.. i see that this software has improved since i downloaded it :) good job, xofar... and i'm happy i could help resolve that problem with the timer (i mine like a crazy barge now :))
Darqion Zenix	Posted - 2007.03.30 10:53:00 - [145] ill be getting one in a few days i guess.. can almost get in a retriever hehe
Brad Stone Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.30 11:24:00 - [146] Edited by: Brad Stone on 30/03/2007 11:28:59 Just stumbled across this, looks interesting. Just a nitpick.. Your website says "However, please bare with me as my web building skills are not nearly as proficient as my programming skills" Heh, I have no wish to get naked with you, but I will "please BEAR with you ( Hint ) Also a typo on the timer page itself... "the pricing and *Resale Policies are exlpained below." One question, can you set the cycle duration? is that an input field? I run my defence alt guy in a command ship with the mining forman mindlink in his head and mining laser optimazation gang mod fitted, so the cycle time is about 140 seconds ish (can't check the exact time just now) _________________________________________________________ Senior EVEMon developer. Try EVEMon today! It's delicious!
Ciuby Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:26:00 - [147] you can change it :)
Brad Stone Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:38:00 - [148] cool, I'll give it a try. _________________________________________________________ Senior EVEMon developer. Try EVEMon today! It's delicious!
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.30 13:24:00 - [149] Originally by: Brad Stone Edited by: Brad Stone on 30/03/2007 11:28:59 Just stumbled across this, looks interesting. Just a nitpick.. Your website says "However, please bare with me as my web building skills are not nearly as proficient as my programming skills" Heh, I have no wish to get naked with you, but I will "please BEAR with you ( Hint ) Also a typo on the timer page itself... "the pricing and Resale Policies are exlpained below." snip* Their's alwasy a english proffessor arounde to corect some one's wrighting. lol, thanks for pointing out the errors, I'll be sure to fix them. And as answered, yes you can change them. I'm considering adding another feature that allows you indicate the Mining Foreman bonus. Still trying to find out when the bonus actually applies to the mining rate. During cycle, after cycle, or after shutting down and restarting lasers. If anyone knows this answer for sure, it would be a big help. -------- Miner Timer v(1.2.4) Works best with EVE Launcher by Grismar.
Brad Stone Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.01 16:55:00 - [150] heh, thanks. One thing I noiced is that t would be nice to have a bit more precision on the cycle time. With a command ship in system running the mining laser gang mod, my cycle time is 142.2 seconds. Over time, that causes the timer to drift out of sync by 0.2 seconds a cycle as I can only set the time to an integer value. Looks like a very nice program - Isk will be forthcoming. _________________________________________________________ Senior EVEMon developer. Try EVEMon today! It's delicious!

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