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Capt Acid 9th Flotilla 0	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:11:53 - [1] - Quote ItGÇÖs been a while since I have posted since I have been happily flying a Cerberus HAM rigged t2 active tank and loving it. With two rigor rigs the damage application has been fantastic and itGÇÖs fun to fly. Love her but enough about that three headed hag I want to give Hybrids a go since medium hybrids are in such a good place now. I was wonder if anyone ever uses Vultures to good effect in PVP. I run around with my corp. mats and I have been putting my warfare links to good use in the Nighthawk but I was wondering if I could sniper fit the Vulture for PVE to good effect? I have run a few missions with the following fit but itGÇÖs been rather underwhelming and as I am new to Hybrids being a missile man I was wondering if anyone has any advice. Can medium hybrids been good in PVE on the Vulture or the Eagle or is it a foolGÇÖs errand to try? Are there any decent PVE Eagle or Vulture fits out there? Is this fit pure insanity? I am a total neophyte with hybrids. Highs x5 250GÇÖs Mids GÇô Sensor booster + tracking computer x2 + Medium Micro Jump Drive + Ad in II + X-large Ancillary Lows GÇô X3 Mag Field Stabs II + a Tracking Enhancer II Rigs Medium Ancillary Current Router II (to fit the Power grid) + Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster II TL DR can Vultures or Eagles be used in PVE and if so anyone have any fits? Thanks and fly safe M8s
Nakovi Kitsune Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly Events 8	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:50:06 - [2] - Quote What kind of PVE in particular? I like the vulture for running C3 WH sites, but its built for tank and javelin ammo. Eagle I've only used for PVP sniping
Capt Acid 9th Flotilla 0	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:54:36 - [3] - Quote Running L4s in Cladari space. What is your WH fit? Do you have problems with the Tracking on the Rails using Jav ammo?
chaosgrimm Universal Production and Networking Services 185	Posted - 2015.01.31 19:15:39 - [4] - Quote Capt Acid wrote: I have run a few missions with the following fit but itGÇÖs been rather underwhelming Can medium hybrids been good in PVE on the Vulture or the Eagle or is it a foolGÇÖs errand to try? Are there any decent PVE Eagle or Vulture fits out there? Imma assume ur talking about lvl 4s in highsec. "Good" / decent are subjective of course. You won't be outperforming battleship alternatives. Save maybe blitzing a select few missions that would be better suited for frigs. In my personal opinion, none battleship fits are not 'good' for 4s in highsec.
Nakovi Kitsune Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly Events 8	Posted - 2015.01.31 19:19:58 - [5] - Quote You can track sleepers with just javelin ammo and a single targeting computer. (You need a web when the frigs get in close though) L4 rats dont move at near the speed and they don't pick good trajectories either. But as chaos says, pretty much any battleship will be better for L4 than any command ship. I realize you like helping your friends out with the fleet assist mods, but really, they shouldn't need any help for tanking an L4 right?
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 422	Posted - 2015.01.31 20:00:05 - [6] - Quote Don't really know much about either, but I thought the Eagle should have two 10% per level buffs to hybrid optimal. Double optimal range sounds like something to consider. It doesn't have a drone bay though, iirc, unless that had been changed. Oddly, looking up the Eagle on EveMon, the bonuses seem to be out of place since the Eagle only has one buff from Caldari Cruiser and two from the HAC skill so it seems to be missing one. Aside from that, the Vulture's a CBC and the Eagle is a HAC. Both should have a descent tank (pretty sure both have a resist buff), but the Vulture is likely slower, though it can make full use of links if you want that. The Eagle being a HAC will have the MWD sig penalty buff, so if you're going to mount a microwarp, you'll benefit from that. It'll also be a fair bit more maneuverable that the Vulture. Again, some of this is guess work just going off of what little I know about the two ships and what they should have considering what type of T2's they are. Honestly I would take into consideration bringing a Naga for sniping, as I've heard it does the job far better that the Eagle unless you really need the tank, and it's much cheaper and less skill intensive I'd imagine. If you doing L4's, as others have said, a Battleship is likely better suited for that than either a CBC or HAC.
Gregor Parud Ordo Ardish 1015	Posted - 2015.01.31 22:03:53 - [7] - Quote Neither the Vulture nor the Eagle make "good sense" to use for lvl 4 missions, they can do it and if you really wanted to go for it but from a dps and damage projection point of view they're not worth it. Problem is that Caldari doesn't have a turret ship that competes with other/better options, sadly. Would you want to use one then don't use the Eagle but get a vulture instead. Still, it's not good when you take its cost and other faction's options into account.
Lo Ex School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.02.02 15:03:54 - [8] - Quote The eagle got good range but got less dps than its standard friend (moa) because its drone bay is gone. The eagle doesn't deserve to be considered as a heavy assault cruiser and it's the last advanced caldari turret ship. What a shame.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 1343	Posted - 2015.02.02 15:50:08 - [9] - Quote Lo Ex wrote: The eagle doesn't deserve to be considered as a heavy assault cruiser and it's the last advanced caldari turret ship. Tell that to the Eagle pilot who's hitting you from battleship ranges with cruiser tracking and DPS. While the Eagle can't match other HACs in terms of raw damage at close range, it can use short-range ammo out to much further ranges, meaning it's still hitting for full damage after other HACs have swapped to longer-range, and thus lower DPS, ammo. My go-to Eagle fit will use antimatter out to 50km and still be hitting for ~450 DPS while sporting a 40k+ buffer tank. The same fit will hit with Spike out to 150km for ~260 DPS. Try that in anything other than an Ishtar. People try to use the Eagle with blasters to brawl with, and it does okay here, but it's really outperformed in terms of raw damage by other HACs in the brawling role. My Many Misadventures Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I seek to create content, not become content.
Lo Ex School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.02.02 16:49:18 - [10] - Quote Isn't almost everyone is using antimatter ? Hybrid ammo doesn't give choice for dmge type. It's a default not a positive argument. The eagle hit from afar like a pigeon and move like a snail.

Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 1344	Posted - 2015.02.02 17:19:35 - [11] - Quote Lo Ex wrote: Isn't almost everyone is using antimatter ? Hybrid ammo doesn't give choice for dmge type. It's a default not a positive argument. The eagle hit from afar like a pigeon and move like a snail. My point was that the Eagle can use it's highest damage ammo out to 50+km. No other gun HAC can do that. The Eagle is a sniper, not a brawler, and in sniping situations you change your ammo type to meet your range requirements. This is also why I said that the Eagle isn't necessarily good as a brawler: range bonuses don't increase your DPS when you're in someone's face. But back to the OP's question, Caldari rail boats tend to favor range over damage. This works great in some PvE settings where you can fit for high DPS and mobility and range tank, but they typically won't do the same content as quickly as most other ships. My Many Misadventures Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I seek to create content, not become content.
Nakovi Kitsune Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly Events 12	Posted - 2015.02.02 17:54:22 - [12] - Quote Lo Ex wrote: Isn't almost everyone is using antimatter ? Hybrid ammo doesn't give choice for dmge type. It's a default not a positive argument. The eagle hit from afar like a pigeon and move like a snail. Pop a few player frigates and destroyers from 100km and see if your stance on the Eagle changes. It's a very fun ship in the right situation


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